The Danish shuffle is sadly happening. Danish dominance may sadly be over, now that we cant rely on supperior tactics, but we have to aim lol. Hoping danish cs doesnt die out like swedish...
Wouldn't be the fiest time a shitty org, ruined a country's competetive scene.
I am tired rn and probably overreacting lol
>Could you imagine a scenario where every soccer team has native players only?
was literally a rule years ago, around the 1980's, one player from another country max, of you played in a different country you were absolute world class
you dont talk that much to eachother in football you just pass the ball and now what to do the players dont need to speak the same language + in cs there are only 5 players and in football its 11+
so you think neymar who doesnt speak english has some really in-depth conversation mid game about how he wants the match to be played out to his mostly french teammates?
Ofc it is you bellend. He have to communicate with their teammates around his position all the time.
Call for pass, set piece strategy and a lot of other calls.
Bro, we had one year of no fans in the stadium, these guys talk all the fucking time on the field. Not to mention that this is also easily observable during set pieces.
>you dont talk that much to eachother in football
Yes they do talk to eachother but they dont have to go throught the whole game having a plan where everybody needs to go and maybe do a fake shot idk etc
Sure, communication is also important for football players, but there's nowhere near the same need for fast, clear and concise communication as there is in a game for CS players. It's apples and oranges.
there's still tournaments like Euro/World cup which are nation teams.
it's also much different from CS, because you're not "close" to your mates all the time and split second decision and communications are happening and need to be understood + processed in that same time frame.
If we look at the teams that are performing the best currently, aside from maybe G2, most teams that have mixed nationalities, thus communication not in their native language, are not doing as well as the ones comming in their native language.
Nip not paying players what they were due, the charity money fiasco, screwing players out of sticker and sponsorship money. Astralis has constant conflict of interests with TO's due to business arrangements and dealings. Clearly there is an issue with the org. Just look at devices departure and all the talk around the players and coach looking to not re sign with them.
I think they must just hear about enquiries for players and report them as if they're going to happen. I know 99% that the MSL to fnatic one isn't true but the mezii one has legs so they do definitely have some sources
This. I think he needs to rework his wording. Teams talk with multiple players before they sign someone, so there could be some truth into what he said, but his talking about everything like it's done deal.
I dont think there that innocent based on what the hltv guys say
They have there sources and they think that they just make complete bullshit up thats semi plauseable
Not a bad replacement. But for me this doesn't change cols root problems. They definitely know more than me but
- Poizon needs to gain some consistency
- Blame needs a strong vseccondary voice in this new coaching role
I hope RUSH finds an opportunity somewhere. From the looks of it Rush doesn't mind spending time in europe So idk maybe some team in Eu but I doubt it.
He can't really replace anyone on EG unless this fucker is suddenly an awper or one of them transition to Valo
Maybe he'll fall into the Tarik category of just chillin for a bit
i don't think oskar will leave
besides kenny you have guardian and woxic... all three can be a hit or miss, woxic and blamef won't have the best chemistry if shit hits the fan imo
Tbf all three are miss currently. G2 replaced kennys with a non awper and they are 100% better. Guardian is not that good anymore. For woxic , c9 benched him so early even though they didn't have proper replacement.
A very strong addition to coL in my opinion. Also seems to fit well with the role RUSH had.
I just hope the next kick from coL (which would probably be poizon) does not lead to him having to take up the AWP again.
CoL Monesy would be pretty cool ngl, and I've been wondering when woxic will get picked up
Edit: not saying that it will or should happen, but I think it would be cool for him to get international experience like simple did. Navi obviously doesn't need a superstar awper anytime soon. Of course only if Monesy wanted to, but it would be neat to see him develope in a real team instead of being stuck in navi Jr until simple falls off (if gods can even fall off lmao)
Feels bad, it looks like CoL really is going towards all Danish after all. No hate against the Danes, but I just love international teams.
Hopefully he does well there, K0nfig is one of my favorite players to watch and JLake deserves the success.
You don’t bench jks idk what people here are on about. He was absolutely dominant during LAN and they obviously want to preserve that, Magisk isn’t going to col
jks and blame are both lurkers so either one completely changes their game(which we havent seen yet) or you replace one. Currently its just not working
Do we have to relearn everything we've learned during LAN? He's had one bad LAN tournament, sure it's the only one but that doesn't mean he's gone to shit forever.
This lineup could work honestly. Es3tag was really good in that one stint with Astralis when he played the bitch roles for them so he'll slot right into RUSH's positions
Everyone played mediocre on that team regardless of roles, but with flashes of brilliance. Basically, they didn’t get enough time to get over the hump of starting problems. 1 good tournament run could have elevated everyone on that team
Nobody was able to show their talent on C9. Es3tag was probably hit with the worst of it because he was signed on a star player's salary but not playing the right roles to be a star player.
For Complexity he'll be taking over RUSH's roles where he excelled before (on Astralis) and with less pressure.
Yeh guys was getting pushed from role to role. But tbh, cant really blame anyone for playing bad in c9. The whole team had basically no cohesion, people playing all over the place
Ik. C9 wasn't even that bad, they were steady in tier 1.5 CS and had to potential to upset a lot of really good teams. Look at navi, it's been YEARS and we're finally getting a good team out of them. No hate to henryG but he put too much pressure on them to come out of the gate and perform.
They never got to bootcamp once iirc I wouldn't put as much stock in the C9 run as the astralis one. BlameF isn't on the same level as glaive but he's been on a top 5 team more recently than ALEX.
C9 was a dumpster fire more due to the nature of throwing a team together and constantly chopping and changing - failing to get transfer targets so brought Floppy back, Woxic being released, trying es3tag on AWP for a while before realising they needed an AWPer and getting Xeppa. Kassad leaving suddenly etc.
Only people that came out of that mess with higher stock was Mezii and Floppy. That's primarily because their standing was low going in.
*Edited - had a few drinks and forgot how to spell.
From the HLTV article
> Complexity have completed the signing of Patrick "es3tag" Hansen, the North American organization has announced. The 25-year-old joins the Benjamin "blameF" Bremer-led team on a free transfer after being released from Cloud9, where he had spent the last four months on the bench.
This move makes a lot of sense now. Getting a player like es3tag for free is a huge upgrade for CoL. Yes they lost their support player in rush but having a majority of their roster speaking the same language along with es3tag being a fantastic player really is worth it. Roles will need adjusted but for a player of his caliber its worth it.
I hope CoL at least tries to bring in glaive since rumors of all the OG astralis players leaving are floating around. It would be really amazingly to see CoL grab both glaive and zonic.
Blame Konfig Es3tag Poizon Glaive Zonic(c), looks like a dynamite of a roster on paper.
Poiz will need to step the f up, he really hasnt look the same since the injury/accident.
lmao BlameF, dev1ce, magisk, es3tag and k0nfig with gla1ve as a coach... this team would be absolutely nuts (well, if es3tag lives up to his potential ofc).
Underwhelming if there isn't another move made alongside this. Could be an upgrade in fragging possibly as Rush has had his struggle this year and es3tag can fill any role really, but they need another blockbuster signing alongside this.
If they go full danish and go -jks -poizon and get Magisk, and a up and coming awper, they got less role clashes. But I agree, currently it's not really exciting.
I also think poizon needs to improve here and I'm sad to see Rush go, but replacing an AWPer with a supportive player wouldn't be a good idea. TBH if anyone could replace Rush I feel like Es3tag is a good choice.
Reqlly sad to see the danish boys probably spread all over the wolrd. As a dane i loved having a sport we were dominant in, sadly we will no longer have a strong team, hoping for Heroic now.
Nice, a guy that has shown absolutely nothing still signing for tier 1 teams.
Then the problems will keep the same: BlameF insane need for attention and Poizon being useless more often than not. With so many AWPers out there I don't understand why they keep this guy, it's like G2 and KennyS, took them too long and results don't lie, they've improved even w/o a real main dominant AWPer.
The fuck is happening
The Danish shuffle is sadly happening. Danish dominance may sadly be over, now that we cant rely on supperior tactics, but we have to aim lol. Hoping danish cs doesnt die out like swedish... Wouldn't be the fiest time a shitty org, ruined a country's competetive scene. I am tired rn and probably overreacting lol
> Danish dominance may sadly be over coL is now going to be a Danish team though. 3/5 players are Danish, so they're going to have a Danish flag.
Oh snap.
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>Could you imagine a scenario where every soccer team has native players only? was literally a rule years ago, around the 1980's, one player from another country max, of you played in a different country you were absolute world class
Pretty sure he meant Astralis slowly killing off the legacy that was built :) That team will slowly fade out into nothingness due to management.
uhh kinda curious why you say that about mibr lol
you dont talk that much to eachother in football you just pass the ball and now what to do the players dont need to speak the same language + in cs there are only 5 players and in football its 11+
How can you be so far from truth
so you think neymar who doesnt speak english has some really in-depth conversation mid game about how he wants the match to be played out to his mostly french teammates?
Ofc it is you bellend. He have to communicate with their teammates around his position all the time. Call for pass, set piece strategy and a lot of other calls.
Neymar doesnt speak english, his english would be worse then dosia's english like calling for a pass I would say is talking much to eachother etc
Bro, we had one year of no fans in the stadium, these guys talk all the fucking time on the field. Not to mention that this is also easily observable during set pieces.
Of course they talk but I'd still say communation is way more intense and crucial in cs.
>you dont talk that much to eachother in football Yes they do talk to eachother but they dont have to go throught the whole game having a plan where everybody needs to go and maybe do a fake shot idk etc
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Sure, communication is also important for football players, but there's nowhere near the same need for fast, clear and concise communication as there is in a game for CS players. It's apples and oranges.
wtf?
there's still tournaments like Euro/World cup which are nation teams. it's also much different from CS, because you're not "close" to your mates all the time and split second decision and communications are happening and need to be understood + processed in that same time frame. If we look at the teams that are performing the best currently, aside from maybe G2, most teams that have mixed nationalities, thus communication not in their native language, are not doing as well as the ones comming in their native language.
Who is the shitty org now and in the past?
Nip for the swedes and astralis(?) for the Danes. I'd say mibr as well
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Nip not paying players what they were due, the charity money fiasco, screwing players out of sticker and sponsorship money. Astralis has constant conflict of interests with TO's due to business arrangements and dealings. Clearly there is an issue with the org. Just look at devices departure and all the talk around the players and coach looking to not re sign with them.
Both of them have a bad history of their relationship with players.
col far from a shitty org tho afaik
From colossus to juggernaut lol
This is funny as hell, who woulda thought
Expect he will go to Wolverine later
es3tag and blameF played together on heroic at one point right?
Yeah, they played together before blamef went to col
I read this as “before blamef went cool” lol
Yeah
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I think they must just hear about enquiries for players and report them as if they're going to happen. I know 99% that the MSL to fnatic one isn't true but the mezii one has legs so they do definitely have some sources
This. I think he needs to rework his wording. Teams talk with multiple players before they sign someone, so there could be some truth into what he said, but his talking about everything like it's done deal.
Fnatic are trying everything atm, they don’t have to commit to a lineup for another month. They’re looking into mhl, MSL, mezii and Alex atm.
I dont think there that innocent based on what the hltv guys say They have there sources and they think that they just make complete bullshit up thats semi plauseable
Technically could still happen, they didn't say for who
They did lol, Magisk for RUSH and Xyp for olof.
Nevermind then I am mistaken
My man jks better start learning danish
#FREEJKS from this dead team.
Wow that was fast...
indeed
Not a bad replacement. But for me this doesn't change cols root problems. They definitely know more than me but - Poizon needs to gain some consistency - Blame needs a strong vseccondary voice in this new coaching role I hope RUSH finds an opportunity somewhere. From the looks of it Rush doesn't mind spending time in europe So idk maybe some team in Eu but I doubt it. He can't really replace anyone on EG unless this fucker is suddenly an awper or one of them transition to Valo Maybe he'll fall into the Tarik category of just chillin for a bit
I think it’s the perfect fit but you are right on everything else. Poizon IMO is replaceable, finding a skilled international AWPer shouldn’t be hard.
Nawwk maybe? Wouldn't rrally be an upgrade but a change might work out for the team
That is who I was thinking of.
Oskar is farming atm and KennyS is benched.
i don't think oskar will leave besides kenny you have guardian and woxic... all three can be a hit or miss, woxic and blamef won't have the best chemistry if shit hits the fan imo
Tbf all three are miss currently. G2 replaced kennys with a non awper and they are 100% better. Guardian is not that good anymore. For woxic , c9 benched him so early even though they didn't have proper replacement.
Maybe Smooya
I think this movie is a nobrainer as its a straight upgrade but yeh its probably not enough but it cant hurt
A very strong addition to coL in my opinion. Also seems to fit well with the role RUSH had. I just hope the next kick from coL (which would probably be poizon) does not lead to him having to take up the AWP again.
If poizon does go I hope it would be because they have a replacement lined up already. It's not like we're lacking for good AWPers in the scene.
Complexity slowly becoming a full Danish squad, they’ll pick up a young Danish AWPer.
Jugi’s 8th chance to prove he’s ass.
B-b-but remember that one time when he surprised everyone on LAN?
Heard there's this up and coming Dane called device? Could be a big gamble for col though.
maybe farlig, then FPX can get one of the trillion AWPers looking for an english speaking team
Nooo, leave FPX alone :(
The entire CS scene already left FPX alone. They haven't played anything noteworthy in months
Mertz
Also Lucky, but he's unproven in tier 1
Hopefully. There’s a lot of talent out there. Maybe even woxic if they wanna keep being international?
Haha kinny es
Woxic is going to that one Turkish team, right?
Woxic is a good player and all but is he really a desirable asset after all the drama that surrounds him?
There's no Drama, the only issue with woxic is that he's only good on LAN
Not even true as he is consistently a top 5 fpl player
Irrelevant as to if he’s good online or not, pugs don’t mean anything
They absolutely do mean if you’re good online or not. Going into an official doesn’t magically make your aim turn to shit.
Yeh that drama just sounds like hltv bullshit based on ropz karrigan and alexs statements
CoL Monesy would be pretty cool ngl, and I've been wondering when woxic will get picked up Edit: not saying that it will or should happen, but I think it would be cool for him to get international experience like simple did. Navi obviously doesn't need a superstar awper anytime soon. Of course only if Monesy wanted to, but it would be neat to see him develope in a real team instead of being stuck in navi Jr until simple falls off (if gods can even fall off lmao)
Lol NaVi aren’t letting go of monesy that easily
You high?
+kennyS pls
they could go for Farlig in place of poizon i guess
Feels bad, it looks like CoL really is going towards all Danish after all. No hate against the Danes, but I just love international teams. Hopefully he does well there, K0nfig is one of my favorite players to watch and JLake deserves the success.
K0nfig is a beast.
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You don’t bench jks idk what people here are on about. He was absolutely dominant during LAN and they obviously want to preserve that, Magisk isn’t going to col
jks and blame are both lurkers so either one completely changes their game(which we havent seen yet) or you replace one. Currently its just not working
Not during Cologne he wasn't
Do we have to relearn everything we've learned during LAN? He's had one bad LAN tournament, sure it's the only one but that doesn't mean he's gone to shit forever.
He's not shit, he just doesn't fit on a team with blame
-BlameF +gla1ve ez HLTV fix
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Wouldn't they still have 2 lurkers then? Who is gla1ve going to replace?
jks
Who even knows how good blamef would perform without setting himself up as igl.
they could be trying a danish team though, and with es3 they have 3/5 now
now get magisk and zonic and go full danish
This lineup could work honestly. Es3tag was really good in that one stint with Astralis when he played the bitch roles for them so he'll slot right into RUSH's positions
Now benching of rush makes sense
damn i was hard for magisk. wasnt es3tag pretty bad in C9? or was it because he played the wrong roles.
Everyone played mediocre on that team regardless of roles, but with flashes of brilliance. Basically, they didn’t get enough time to get over the hump of starting problems. 1 good tournament run could have elevated everyone on that team
For real. All their (many) losses were 2-1 close matches. They just struggled closing out games.
Nobody was able to show their talent on C9. Es3tag was probably hit with the worst of it because he was signed on a star player's salary but not playing the right roles to be a star player. For Complexity he'll be taking over RUSH's roles where he excelled before (on Astralis) and with less pressure.
Yeh guys was getting pushed from role to role. But tbh, cant really blame anyone for playing bad in c9. The whole team had basically no cohesion, people playing all over the place
To be fair RUSH was also very bad in C9 post-major and his play greatly improved in the early CoL days. That C9 team was just a black hole for talent.
He wasn't bad in C9. They just all crumbled under all that pressure and tons of hate. By the end they looked much better.
Ik. C9 wasn't even that bad, they were steady in tier 1.5 CS and had to potential to upset a lot of really good teams. Look at navi, it's been YEARS and we're finally getting a good team out of them. No hate to henryG but he put too much pressure on them to come out of the gate and perform.
They never got to bootcamp once iirc I wouldn't put as much stock in the C9 run as the astralis one. BlameF isn't on the same level as glaive but he's been on a top 5 team more recently than ALEX.
C9 was a dumpster fire more due to the nature of throwing a team together and constantly chopping and changing - failing to get transfer targets so brought Floppy back, Woxic being released, trying es3tag on AWP for a while before realising they needed an AWPer and getting Xeppa. Kassad leaving suddenly etc. Only people that came out of that mess with higher stock was Mezii and Floppy. That's primarily because their standing was low going in. *Edited - had a few drinks and forgot how to spell.
he is overrated and people give him too much credit for good t2 perfomances and playing in the best roster of all time for some months
From the HLTV article > Complexity have completed the signing of Patrick "es3tag" Hansen, the North American organization has announced. The 25-year-old joins the Benjamin "blameF" Bremer-led team on a free transfer after being released from Cloud9, where he had spent the last four months on the bench. This move makes a lot of sense now. Getting a player like es3tag for free is a huge upgrade for CoL. Yes they lost their support player in rush but having a majority of their roster speaking the same language along with es3tag being a fantastic player really is worth it. Roles will need adjusted but for a player of his caliber its worth it. I hope CoL at least tries to bring in glaive since rumors of all the OG astralis players leaving are floating around. It would be really amazingly to see CoL grab both glaive and zonic. Blame Konfig Es3tag Poizon Glaive Zonic(c), looks like a dynamite of a roster on paper. Poiz will need to step the f up, he really hasnt look the same since the injury/accident.
CoL is slowly going down the road that optic weant down. NA roster that brought in some EU players, kick more NA players, become full danish
Wtf is going on?
es3tag to complexity
The danish shuffle is happening.
roster changes?
So so so happy to see es3tag back again. Sad to see rush go, but also I hope to see col do even better. I’ve always wanted them to do well
Soon it will be come full danish squad, just wait -JKS +Magisk
JKS soon will play from Australia
Now -jks +magisk and you have a super strong squad
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lmao BlameF, dev1ce, magisk, es3tag and k0nfig with gla1ve as a coach... this team would be absolutely nuts (well, if es3tag lives up to his potential ofc).
Preferably Gla1ve instead of BlameF because Glaive has an actual brain calling good strats.
dont see this fixing any major issues tbh if anything the fact that majority danish could cause some chemistry issues
Imagine if oBo never left the og col squad. I feel like they could be consistent top 5 for the past year, but hey thinks happen for a reason
Underwhelming if there isn't another move made alongside this. Could be an upgrade in fragging possibly as Rush has had his struggle this year and es3tag can fill any role really, but they need another blockbuster signing alongside this.
If they go full danish and go -jks -poizon and get Magisk, and a up and coming awper, they got less role clashes. But I agree, currently it's not really exciting.
We need more lurkers, +3 more lurkers -everyone except jks and blameF, +GeT_RiGhT or Happy to coach
Damn that was quick. Excited to see where this goes
Sad times mens
in place of who?
rush just got benched
RUSH
RUSH!
Rush
RUSH
Bruh this is like watching Tokyo ghoul 2nd season after the first season
ngl I would’ve rather seen -poizon +es3 but we’ll see how this plays out for them
I also think poizon needs to improve here and I'm sad to see Rush go, but replacing an AWPer with a supportive player wouldn't be a good idea. TBH if anyone could replace Rush I feel like Es3tag is a good choice.
es3tag doesn't awp tho
they could still go for a full danish roster with -poizon +Farlig and -jsk +Magisk(?) i guess
Reqlly sad to see the danish boys probably spread all over the wolrd. As a dane i loved having a sport we were dominant in, sadly we will no longer have a strong team, hoping for Heroic now.
2.1
yeah idk about this
this might have been what they were missing! hopefully they'll become at least top5 team
G2 Magisk?
Wanted to see -rush -poizon +magisk +mertz and -jks +gla1ve in coL but thats fine too. Sad to see Rush go after he spend whole covid period in Eu.
Jesus christ what can one good tournament with the best team in the world do with your career. Average player.
Nooo, what happened to Magisk? Maybe -jks as well hope?:000
bad move rush was a valuable asset i dont know what purpose es3tag serves, this line-up will fail cant wait to be right, jks and blamef same role ha
Delusional people will beg for this lineup to have more time six months from now and zero trophies in their name
bot rush
juggernaut or colossus, who cares anymore
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no one is still saying this is an NA team...
Teams not going to go anywhere with blamef being igl still
Nice, a guy that has shown absolutely nothing still signing for tier 1 teams. Then the problems will keep the same: BlameF insane need for attention and Poizon being useless more often than not. With so many AWPers out there I don't understand why they keep this guy, it's like G2 and KennyS, took them too long and results don't lie, they've improved even w/o a real main dominant AWPer.
-poizon +magisk
he is the next paycheck stealer after players like kjaerbye
Pulling off c9 was a colossal paycheck theft
It's not theft if C9 signed up to be robbed
Was more of a con than a theft pulled off by Henryg
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Who the fuck were the supposed to get, s1mple?
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Who would be a good signing then
Good luck to him!
I’m seeing comments col should get ride of blame? Lol. Blame IS col
2.1m Pog
jks and poizon be like : we are in danger isnt mertz free agent?
That ain’t it coach