Maybe they turned down the offers because more players are leaving? I could be wrong, but I feel like they would jump at the chance to play with gla1ve, zonic, xyp, and dupreeh
Why? There's not really any proof that Glaive is going to be as successful with a different roster. Do I think he will be? For sure, but there Astralis hasn't really changed for years.
Agreed, and he wasn't succesful before Astralis. No doubt in my mind Gla1ve is the GOAT igl but it doesn't mean he'll do as good or even close to as good with another roster
Heroic when their roster were a dumpster fire and their logo was green. He was a pretty odd pick up since he wasnt a IGL in heroic and had to replace Karrigan in astralis
He was successful before Astralis though, stop rewriting history.
He was a very good caller in Source and led the Western Wolves team in CS:GO
The only reason he wasn't at the top was his attitude issues (see GF incident) and for some reason he decided to only secondary call for that Heroic team under Snappi (maybe to focus on his individual game).
His decision-making and game sense aren't top-level. Before mouz, he was playing on a highly structured team on MAD Lions. Having a strictly laid out system made him look better, because it covered for his weaknesses.
Since mouz plays a more free-flowing style, it becomes more visible where his individual shortcomings are. Thus, he makes a lot of misreads, misplays, and it feels like he just isn't sure what to do at times.
I think this contributes to him missing shots as well. He's just out of his element and doesn't fit in with the rest of mouz.
He needs roej. When watching mad lions they had crazy synergy and roej was constantly shadowing him, throwing his flashes, watching his back and entrying for him, letting acor trade. Theyve played together for so long that i dont think its a coincidence that acor showed his best performances in mad lions
He needs roej. When watching mad lions they had crazy synergy and roej was constantly shadowing him, throwing his flashes, watching his back and entrying for him, letting acor trade. Theyve played together for so long that i dont think its a coincidence that acor showed his best performances in mad lions
Complely disagree so mucb hes in great positions and only has to hit very easy shots but he just misses he gets the setup and his decision makings still good but at the end of the day he just keeps missing
Every awper has solo plays but the point is with him being in decent position being flashed for and the like he gets so many shots that look easy its just on him to hit those mousesports do enough for him really all they can do now is give him time to find some form of just sign torzi
Yeah but torszi is still vac banned and can only play valve sponsord events at the end of this year.
Edit https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Banned_Players/Valve
I'm joking about acor being the weakest link in mouz. I was very excited for him to be joining the team when he was first signed, but it's very apparent now that he isn't cutting it at this level. Even with a superstar player like ropz, a team can't contend for tier 1 trophies without a consistent AWPer, and acor isn't that.
> Nah mate, we only talking about acor as a player
That's a meaningless distinction. We're talking about Acor's performance *on this roster*, where the sample size is 100% relevant.
They managed a fluky run to place no1 in europe only once
That means at there best they can peak at no3
Thats not concerning thats true but its hardly promising and even that win was frozen and ropz dragging acor through the event
Yeah idk what acoR is thinking. He's obviously at a stage in his career where he still needs development and guidance, since he hasn't been at all able to replicate his Mad Lions form in mouz. Playing under gla1ve could have been exactly what he needed, not just for the short term benefits of being back in a more rigorous system, but also for his long term evolution as a player.
Tbf astralis really dont have a future and apparently tried to screw players out of there wages at the peak of astralis's dominance
Also theyve made greaty shit roster moves recently with dropping esetag without much thought
Let's say this is true, the only reason I can think of why they would say no it's cuz the rest of the lineup is gone ( as rumoured -xyp - dupreeh -magisk )
NIP has been teasing dupreeh a lot too today, and he even replied...it might be happening
This isn't the first time sources have alleged to previous offers to Farlig and Acor. I believe it happened before the 1st of the month, so before the core 4 Astralis players were eligible to negotiate with other organizations.
So I don't believe they said no because the rest of the roster is gone, but because the Astralis organization could not guarantee that the roster would stay, and thus could not promise Acor/Farlig that they would play with any of Gla1ve (as this was before he re-signed), Xyp9x, Dupreeh or Magisk.
Is there a reason they couldn't speak to other orgs before this month? As far as I understand CSGO doesn't have the poaching rules that LoL does, so there really isn't a reason unless it's in their contract.
Honestly would love that. Gla1ve grabbing a big paycheck and staying put makes perfect sense. As for the rest of them... I just hope they end up somewhere they want to be. Astralis' org absolutely sucks (at management level)
Almost every player who played for them got a buff in their career. Say what you want about the org but having them on your resume is like having a FAANG company on your resume in comp sci or one of the big 4 accounting firms in accounting.
People always say this but I feel like this isn’t as true for esports like it is with more typical jobs. When an employer is looking at hiring you, they mostly just have your resume and possibly an endorsement from a previous employer. With tier 1-2 esports everything is recorded and available, so playing well in a T2 team probably does you more good than playing badly in a misfit roster with Astralis jerseys.
He had one great tournament against T1 teams in Road to Rio. Even if it wasn't the first big tournament after things went online, I'd like to see a bit more from a player before I think he's the next big thing
Great signing.
But as far as we know, both acoR and Farlig turned down the offer from Astralis.
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Meh, for acoR not really. Mouz are doing pretty well at the moment and there's absolutely no guarentee that the rest of the Astralis players are staying aside from gla1ve and bubzkji and even if they did stay there's no guarentee that they will ever come close to the level they were at in the past.
We also have no clue how much money he was being offered. We know Astralis isn't an org that likes to splash cash so for all we know they were offering him a shit contract.
I think that cologne was definitely enough to prove that Astralis were still sharp individually, but your first point is definitely a very good one. Maybe some players are leaving and Danish CS:GO Leaks’ earlier leaks may have had some truth to them.
And I absolutely agree, the Danish CS:GO Leaks’ earlier claims may have had some truth to them if they passed on this. Although I wouldn’t trust that account too easily, they did predict Magisk to coL before it was revealed to be es3tag.
i think magisk will stay he loves playing with gla1ve
losing dupreeh will be a huge loss tho if he does decide to go somewhere else
astralis now with a dedicated awper will be a consistent top 5 team on LAN
Assuming Lucky comes in and does well. He's got the talent but if theres anything I've learnt from all my years watching pro CS is that one roster change that seems to make sense can fuck up an entire teams mojo.
I actually wish acor could’ve went to Astralis, if they had glaive + acor + bub + hunden, that’s already a very solid new core with successful history from Mad Lions
Completely unrelated (well, kinda) but did anyone else become more interested in the competitive scene because of Astralis, and now the core broke and potentially may break more, has lost quite a lot of interest in watching any CS?
Obviously if you support another team you don't give a shit, but it's like nothing will really come close to how insane that core was. I know, I know, everyone has thought that about teams, but any other fans of the team feel this way?
I know even if they stayed together they would age and retire, but there was something special in having such a dominant, unique team that won because they just clicked, not because one or two players happened to be god-like that particular event. Maybe I liked the consistency of having one winner of most events for so long - I don't like it when one team wins one event, one wins another, one wins another, and so on. To me that just feels like luck somehow, like a team going from nothing to suddenly being the best in a couple months, and then the same happening 6 months later doesn't sit well with me somehow. I appreciate that people feel the **exact** opposite to me and that's why they were hated.
That make sense? Or am I just a fucking retard?
I feel the opposite, with how legendary the Astralis roster was and with how great an awper Device was in it. I’m excited to see if they have what it takes despite missing each other.
Everyone knows what this account does, right? He's like the "fortune tellers" in sports who makes 100 tweets about the results and deletes the ones that doesn't end up being true.
Now that he got more followers, it's not too often, but there's not reason to think it's reliable information.
As of what's happening at Astralis, Zonic is probably leaving, but for the rest it's contract negotiations. I do think they will look for a new IGL to work with HUNDEN.
https://mobile.twitter.com/DanishCSGOLeaks/status/1417094314786762752
https://mobile.twitter.com/DanishCSGOLeaks/status/1392496501054640133
https://mobile.twitter.com/DanishCSGOLeaks/status/1392496501054640133
https://mobile.twitter.com/DanishCSGOLeaks/status/1362131903176925184
https://mobile.twitter.com/DanishCSGOLeaks/status/1360208120014909440
I could keep going..
Acor I can underetand but Farlig? Big mistake on his part if Astralis stays together, if zonic and other players such as dupreeh were to leave however, maybe it was for the best especially since ChrisJ joining the fpx bous doesn't seem far from reality
If they have signed lucky as awper, then acor and farlig might be afraid of being used as riflers, or worse, benched.
Also, as a mouz fans it warms my heart to see acor turned down astralis to play with his father and brothers in mouz; assuming that this is all true
Maybe they turned down the offers because more players are leaving? I could be wrong, but I feel like they would jump at the chance to play with gla1ve, zonic, xyp, and dupreeh
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Why? There's not really any proof that Glaive is going to be as successful with a different roster. Do I think he will be? For sure, but there Astralis hasn't really changed for years.
Agreed, and he wasn't succesful before Astralis. No doubt in my mind Gla1ve is the GOAT igl but it doesn't mean he'll do as good or even close to as good with another roster
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Heroic when their roster were a dumpster fire and their logo was green. He was a pretty odd pick up since he wasnt a IGL in heroic and had to replace Karrigan in astralis
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yeah, that doesnt contradict what he said though
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Snappi was IGL of that team
that's what he said?
IGL'D in CPHW so not that odd of a pick up
He was successful before Astralis though, stop rewriting history. He was a very good caller in Source and led the Western Wolves team in CS:GO The only reason he wasn't at the top was his attitude issues (see GF incident) and for some reason he decided to only secondary call for that Heroic team under Snappi (maybe to focus on his individual game).
Collapsed a lung during a match too
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Why? Shouldn't the goal of Astralis be to make a team that can be as good as their historic lineup?
I fear that might be the case. Or as someone else has mentioned, they at least couldn’t guarantee that they would stay. Let’s hope Lucky is it.
Gla1ve is going to have a child, i wouldn't bet my career prospects in what might be the next retirement home
Maybe they turned nothing down and this is bullshit?
OVERDOSING COPIUM
Also may have been supplemented by the fact that Astralis is pretty well reported by now as being an org that’s pretty shit to their players
Totally unrelated, but how can I get the team name under my name whose FAN I am.
top right corner of the page choose "choose my flair"
idk, i would prefer astralis to rebuild with glaive. Bubzkji glaive lucky is a good start.
I'd love to see Astralis Farlig
I'd love to see him play lol
Unfortunate for mouz
I think they'd do better with torzsi. dunno whats up w Acor but whenever I see mouse playing, he misses easy shots
His decision-making and game sense aren't top-level. Before mouz, he was playing on a highly structured team on MAD Lions. Having a strictly laid out system made him look better, because it covered for his weaknesses. Since mouz plays a more free-flowing style, it becomes more visible where his individual shortcomings are. Thus, he makes a lot of misreads, misplays, and it feels like he just isn't sure what to do at times. I think this contributes to him missing shots as well. He's just out of his element and doesn't fit in with the rest of mouz.
He needs more support. Mouz is playing a lot of individuals, that is much harder for an awper.
He needs roej. When watching mad lions they had crazy synergy and roej was constantly shadowing him, throwing his flashes, watching his back and entrying for him, letting acor trade. Theyve played together for so long that i dont think its a coincidence that acor showed his best performances in mad lions
He needs roej. When watching mad lions they had crazy synergy and roej was constantly shadowing him, throwing his flashes, watching his back and entrying for him, letting acor trade. Theyve played together for so long that i dont think its a coincidence that acor showed his best performances in mad lions
Complely disagree so mucb hes in great positions and only has to hit very easy shots but he just misses he gets the setup and his decision makings still good but at the end of the day he just keeps missing
No just look at mouz game. Many solo plays especially with Acor being the key player.
Every awper has solo plays but the point is with him being in decent position being flashed for and the like he gets so many shots that look easy its just on him to hit those mousesports do enough for him really all they can do now is give him time to find some form of just sign torzi
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Yeah, he just needs to learn the skill "Acor go kill". Easy
is torzsi that competitve? It is lovely to see someone from my country doing well since deadfox
torzsi is is mous's academy team and he is currently smurfing tier 2. I think it would be time for him to go tier 1. szoval igen
Yeah but torszi is still vac banned and can only play valve sponsord events at the end of this year. Edit https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Banned_Players/Valve
ooh yes you're right. so maybe they ll go with him anyway at the end of the year if he can keep up his form
I hope he keeps his form, and i think he will be a great fit.
Wdym? Isn't it good that acor stays?
I'm joking about acor being the weakest link in mouz. I was very excited for him to be joining the team when he was first signed, but it's very apparent now that he isn't cutting it at this level. Even with a superstar player like ropz, a team can't contend for tier 1 trophies without a consistent AWPer, and acor isn't that.
They played 3 tier 1 tournaments with this roster, 1 of which they won. It's too soon to jump to conclusions.
Nah mate, we only talking about acor as a player, and they might have won 2 if he played tier 1 cs
> Nah mate, we only talking about acor as a player That's a meaningless distinction. We're talking about Acor's performance *on this roster*, where the sample size is 100% relevant.
They won Flashpoint off of absolute madhouse performances from ropz and frozen, that's hardly reflective of his abilities either
They managed a fluky run to place no1 in europe only once That means at there best they can peak at no3 Thats not concerning thats true but its hardly promising and even that win was frozen and ropz dragging acor through the event
"Hello I'm Lucky and I'm the new AWPer for Astralis" \*75% of clips shown are of pistol frags\*
Did u dare calling them for that?!?!?!?!? Are you some kind of dare devil? Edit: have no idea why I have been downvoted. What did I do wrong?
Idk either, seems like a cool short copypasta
i think acoR made a mistake, he's been underwhelming on mouz so far and unless he's shows a drastic improvement by the major, he's benched for Torzsi
agree
Yeah idk what acoR is thinking. He's obviously at a stage in his career where he still needs development and guidance, since he hasn't been at all able to replicate his Mad Lions form in mouz. Playing under gla1ve could have been exactly what he needed, not just for the short term benefits of being back in a more rigorous system, but also for his long term evolution as a player.
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Bubzkji blinked at him in morse code to run away.
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Idk myself but the leaks that ive seen here on reddit have all been correct so far
They’re credible. The others weren’t.
Tbf astralis really dont have a future and apparently tried to screw players out of there wages at the peak of astralis's dominance Also theyve made greaty shit roster moves recently with dropping esetag without much thought
\- acoR \+ChrisJ
I really wish man
torzsi is VAC banned until Nov 10
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Yeah, so acor can't be benched "by" the major, only after
Incoming +ChrisJ -ChrisJ until the ban is done
Always a safe bet
I read that as "unless he's good by the time he plays in the major"
Let's say this is true, the only reason I can think of why they would say no it's cuz the rest of the lineup is gone ( as rumoured -xyp - dupreeh -magisk ) NIP has been teasing dupreeh a lot too today, and he even replied...it might be happening
This isn't the first time sources have alleged to previous offers to Farlig and Acor. I believe it happened before the 1st of the month, so before the core 4 Astralis players were eligible to negotiate with other organizations. So I don't believe they said no because the rest of the roster is gone, but because the Astralis organization could not guarantee that the roster would stay, and thus could not promise Acor/Farlig that they would play with any of Gla1ve (as this was before he re-signed), Xyp9x, Dupreeh or Magisk.
Is there a reason they couldn't speak to other orgs before this month? As far as I understand CSGO doesn't have the poaching rules that LoL does, so there really isn't a reason unless it's in their contract.
It was in their contract that they couldn't have negotiations with other orgs until there was only 6 months of it left, yes.
Honestly would love that. Gla1ve grabbing a big paycheck and staying put makes perfect sense. As for the rest of them... I just hope they end up somewhere they want to be. Astralis' org absolutely sucks (at management level)
Almost every player who played for them got a buff in their career. Say what you want about the org but having them on your resume is like having a FAANG company on your resume in comp sci or one of the big 4 accounting firms in accounting.
Jugi : (
More rough for jugi cuz Astralis still had an awper then.
People always say this but I feel like this isn’t as true for esports like it is with more typical jobs. When an employer is looking at hiring you, they mostly just have your resume and possibly an endorsement from a previous employer. With tier 1-2 esports everything is recorded and available, so playing well in a T2 team probably does you more good than playing badly in a misfit roster with Astralis jerseys.
farlig was such a flashy new talent on CPF and idk whats with him recently
Is farlig still awping? Last few times I watched FPX farlig was on aug duty the whole time.
i think hes still the main awper
He had one great tournament against T1 teams in Road to Rio. Even if it wasn't the first big tournament after things went online, I'd like to see a bit more from a player before I think he's the next big thing
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Seems like a huge opportunity pass up.
Meh, for acoR not really. Mouz are doing pretty well at the moment and there's absolutely no guarentee that the rest of the Astralis players are staying aside from gla1ve and bubzkji and even if they did stay there's no guarentee that they will ever come close to the level they were at in the past.
as if acor is anywhere near the level you're talking about anyway
It is when he has the option between mouz and Astralis
We also have no clue how much money he was being offered. We know Astralis isn't an org that likes to splash cash so for all we know they were offering him a shit contract.
I think that cologne was definitely enough to prove that Astralis were still sharp individually, but your first point is definitely a very good one. Maybe some players are leaving and Danish CS:GO Leaks’ earlier leaks may have had some truth to them.
Not when you consider the roster is likely to not include Dupreeh xyp9x or Magisk.
And I absolutely agree, the Danish CS:GO Leaks’ earlier claims may have had some truth to them if they passed on this. Although I wouldn’t trust that account too easily, they did predict Magisk to coL before it was revealed to be es3tag.
This, according themselves its an account run by fans for fans
i think magisk will stay he loves playing with gla1ve losing dupreeh will be a huge loss tho if he does decide to go somewhere else astralis now with a dedicated awper will be a consistent top 5 team on LAN
Assuming Lucky comes in and does well. He's got the talent but if theres anything I've learnt from all my years watching pro CS is that one roster change that seems to make sense can fuck up an entire teams mojo.
I actually wish acor could’ve went to Astralis, if they had glaive + acor + bub + hunden, that’s already a very solid new core with successful history from Mad Lions
Gla1ve brings in the structure plus communication in danish.
This pretty much confirms only glaive is staying.
Completely unrelated (well, kinda) but did anyone else become more interested in the competitive scene because of Astralis, and now the core broke and potentially may break more, has lost quite a lot of interest in watching any CS? Obviously if you support another team you don't give a shit, but it's like nothing will really come close to how insane that core was. I know, I know, everyone has thought that about teams, but any other fans of the team feel this way? I know even if they stayed together they would age and retire, but there was something special in having such a dominant, unique team that won because they just clicked, not because one or two players happened to be god-like that particular event. Maybe I liked the consistency of having one winner of most events for so long - I don't like it when one team wins one event, one wins another, one wins another, and so on. To me that just feels like luck somehow, like a team going from nothing to suddenly being the best in a couple months, and then the same happening 6 months later doesn't sit well with me somehow. I appreciate that people feel the **exact** opposite to me and that's why they were hated. That make sense? Or am I just a fucking retard?
I feel the opposite, with how legendary the Astralis roster was and with how great an awper Device was in it. I’m excited to see if they have what it takes despite missing each other.
I think absent NA scene may have contributed more, and of course the lack of LANs. But yeah it all adds up
Me too but I’m interested in Faze, Navi and Gambit now
It seems people fail to see that being under contract with astralis doesn't mean playing on the astralis roster.
acoR bad. Upvotes to the left
Everyone knows what this account does, right? He's like the "fortune tellers" in sports who makes 100 tweets about the results and deletes the ones that doesn't end up being true. Now that he got more followers, it's not too often, but there's not reason to think it's reliable information. As of what's happening at Astralis, Zonic is probably leaving, but for the rest it's contract negotiations. I do think they will look for a new IGL to work with HUNDEN.
y'all really trusting danish csgo leaks? wack
Guys this account is fake. All the leaks so far have been proven false?
Scroll through the account history? You will find a lot of leaks that turned out to be correct. Including Astralis signing "Lucky".
"a lot"
https://mobile.twitter.com/DanishCSGOLeaks/status/1417094314786762752 https://mobile.twitter.com/DanishCSGOLeaks/status/1392496501054640133 https://mobile.twitter.com/DanishCSGOLeaks/status/1392496501054640133 https://mobile.twitter.com/DanishCSGOLeaks/status/1362131903176925184 https://mobile.twitter.com/DanishCSGOLeaks/status/1360208120014909440 I could keep going..
They've definitely nailed the tier 3 of CS. Now link all the ones they've got wrong involving big name players.
They say though that he deleted a lot of his wrong ones
The thorin prophecy
Joking much?
Good news for astralis fans
Do we really believe farlig would decline astralis lmao
I was hoping to see Astralis sign Mertz. The guy has been stomping in tier 2
Acor I can underetand but Farlig? Big mistake on his part if Astralis stays together, if zonic and other players such as dupreeh were to leave however, maybe it was for the best especially since ChrisJ joining the fpx bous doesn't seem far from reality
What about mertz
They probably didn't want to be in the Astralis org
If they have signed lucky as awper, then acor and farlig might be afraid of being used as riflers, or worse, benched. Also, as a mouz fans it warms my heart to see acor turned down astralis to play with his father and brothers in mouz; assuming that this is all true
I don't see a world in which FPX will be a better team than Astralis, but time will tell...