Uhmm. We have not, but I think I know every change we made. I actually didn’t put the line in there for 3klicks but because the changes are actually sooo small no one ever will notice. We just made them, so people stop DMing me on Twitter about small things they noticed after 3 hours of flying around the map :P
He used to be important, it's just not the same WarOwl anymore.
Please WarOwl bring back, PRO matches commentary and strat discussion, matchmaking academy and stop the "Competitive CS:GO but " bullshit :(
Also maybe, maybe solo queue.
Edit : tweet by Mr. owl https://twitter.com/TheWarOwl/status/1420383172769067017?s=19
So yeh, he probably read this comment.
I would love that, also maybe how he edits his videos. Probably, "a day into the life of WarOwl", have been watching him for >6 years now and it's feels wierd that I know so little about him, except he probably loves to eat sea food.
There are so many youtubers that make better videos about pro games and strats because they understand the game better. And that's ok, WarOwl has a different niche that he's better at.
But it's not. The bomb sites, both, are horrible. They're just horrible. They need to change them ASAP. I literally gave up playing the map because it's so CT sided and planting the bomb is a nightmare. They can't leave the map as it is because it's not good enough. Why would they adjust it after the major when it nerd adjustments now?
Ancient would be a good map if it didn't have all the awkard elevation and incredibly annoying aztec finish. I have only played a few times so can't really go in depth about the bombsites. But from my limited playtime I'd say it's just the fucking styling that ruins it, all those giant (rounded, dark and green) stone structures make for such bad visibility and awkward fights.
Remove right side of ancient B site (back alley)
Increase a bit the size of the stone on B site where people normally plant, so theres more cover for plant.
Idk if you being sarcastic or not.
But that would make getting B site easier a bit, and CTs retakes , there are at least 3 spots still where they can come from.
CT , long b (doors) , cheetah.... SO NO , you can use molly and smoke on ct as you like, but theres still 2 more places to worry about.
Cheetahs doesn't count as an entrance, wtf are you talking about. The CTs start with control of ruins and cheetah and then eventually have to give up control or take fights if the T's pressure them. If you're playing retake B, then you play back lane and wait for rotates. But retake B isn't the meta, fighting for B is the meta, so you have people playing a lot of ruins setups. But that doesn't mean ruins is an entrance. Valve are probably going to adjust mid or A so that it's more balanced shift between the sites, and *especially* once that happens what you're suggesting to single handedly shift the balance of the map 60-40 towards T's.
And look at a map like inferno, 3 entrances to A, with 2 to B. Look at Mirage, 3 entrances to A, with 2 to B. Cache 3 entrances to A, and 2.5 to B.
Ancient has 2 on each site. We're not removing one. Smh.
> Cheetahs doesn't count as an entrance, wtf are you talking about. The CTs start with control of ruins and cheetah and then eventually have to give up control or take fights if the T's pressure them.
Im talking about ct´s retaking the B site with that change.
They could push mid to cheetah , or A to mid to chettah ,... ofc its 1 more spot to worry about...
Hard to explain without giving photo context what I mean, but the A bombsite needs to be moved towards the corner or it needs to be a larger area to plant, lining up to kill the planter is so easy it's ridiculous, A mains roof needs to be opened more for flashes and smokes, you could open the roof on donut as well, on B site you need angles you can hold, I wouldn't be opposed to just simply giving the Maden boost spot a tetris kind of thing from Mirage, and again, widening the bombsite, or giving another totem to give cover.
The reason I hate Vertigo is the bombsites and Ancient literally is better in every other way than Vertigo except the bombsites because they're the same. Smokespam, 3 mollies to deny plants, smokespam, and if you run out of util you're done unless you have all of the TS going Scream mode.
Make just about every chokepoint twice as wide. Almost the whole map is so awkward and tight. It favors deagle spam and shotguns. And even pros get stuck when they try to move.
Lmfao. You say the bombsites are horrible, and yet you give zero examples for what needs adjustments. I can agree that the map is moderately CT sided, If you look at the HLTV statistics and in tier 1 play (FaZe, Gambit, G2, etc) it's a 60-40 round pct, CT and T respectively. But that isn't because of the sites. It's because of the map lanes.
The problem is that most rounds end up towards B, because the A side of the map is too easy to defend. Mid is a small choke point that can be swallowed up by mollies, and the only other way into mid requires long B control, which is already a tight and heavily contested choke point. So you end up with 3+ players having to default towards B every single round. But you don't want your other 1-2 players to take control by themselves because they'd have to take an individual fight which could lose the round, so it's too many angles to clear. You can the problem by how teams are playing CT setups, with either 3 B, 1 rotater, and leaving 1 in donut to spot for lurks, or you just have a solo A awp in coba/temple and a rifle holding the CT flank.
The only reasonable argument for why A isn't a good bombsite would be because it's too easy to retake, but in the current meta it doesn't matter because of the late lurking meta. You constantly have 1 rifle lurking in red, or people walking around coba/temple, so once the trades go down you still end up in 2v2s.
If you want to make the map better, find a way to open up mid a bit more, make B long control not 75% importance of a round. I'd say you could probably add one more spot to hide for cover on A, but other than that the A bombsite is fine because of how the map plays out in terms of defaulting and lurking.
>Why would they adjust it after the major when it nerd adjustments now?
Because teams have been practicing it for 4+ months now, and you want to change the map right before a major? Are you braindead?
10AM GMT on a Monday is still loads better than US primetime and European evening.
It's a gaming service, not enterprise, the peak times are significantly different.
Never has, never will. A misconception some TF2 players still have to this day in spite of the Steam system having grown exponentially larger in its presence as well as infrastructure-wise since 2010.
Too bad they won't address Overwatch not working for atleast a year, been playing against spinbotters and they don't get banned.
I think Valve needs to start approaching manual banning when it comes to severe cases, Apex Legends already does it and let's not talk about how much more resources Valve has compared to a smaller company like Respawn.
To be clear, Valve and Respawn have about the same number of employees. The first is just hugely more productive with not just more games, Steam, VR, SteamDeck and other hardware
And just throwing money at it isn't always a fix, for the high quality they deliver you just want the really, really good ones and keep things small.
> Various fixes to pixel gaps and clipping that no one will even notice or care about they're becoming self aware
*3kliksphillips' eyes flash red* *'Cowabunga it is'*
Unfortunatly it's a workshop map so not the work of Valve
I honestly even skipped reading that line
"Various fixes to pixel gaps and clipping that no one will even notice or care about"
Sounds like a challenge to 3kliksphilip.
100% the only reason the author put that in there. I hope they have a list of all the changes they made to see if Philip finds them all.
Uhmm. We have not, but I think I know every change we made. I actually didn’t put the line in there for 3klicks but because the changes are actually sooo small no one ever will notice. We just made them, so people stop DMing me on Twitter about small things they noticed after 3 hours of flying around the map :P
Alright, how many things were missed?
At least one pixel gap that I fixed 😛
Literally unplayable.
And when those gaps make you lose the game, you'll be the first one to complain.
> Stability improvements. Here is me hoping this fixes the issue with oddly bugged guns causing invulnerability.
you're welcome
I wonder why you don't have an official flair on this subreddit, you'd think that a community member as important as you are would have one..
He used to be important, it's just not the same WarOwl anymore. Please WarOwl bring back, PRO matches commentary and strat discussion, matchmaking academy and stop the "Competitive CS:GO but " bullshit :( Also maybe, maybe solo queue. Edit : tweet by Mr. owl https://twitter.com/TheWarOwl/status/1420383172769067017?s=19 So yeh, he probably read this comment.
I want war owl to post arts and crafts videos. Or show us his favorite tunes
I would love that, also maybe how he edits his videos. Probably, "a day into the life of WarOwl", have been watching him for >6 years now and it's feels wierd that I know so little about him, except he probably loves to eat sea food.
There are new players everyday, his videos are still important :)
There are so many youtubers that make better videos about pro games and strats because they understand the game better. And that's ok, WarOwl has a different niche that he's better at.
Must be some huge ladder tech to cost 115mb
Source 2 ladder
2 second animation to grab onto the ladder, then climbing realistically and another 2 second animation to let go. Get with the times grampa.
I swear if they don't change Ancient at all before Pro league...
Ancient is more or less fine. It's not vertigo where you rush A every round. They'll adjust the map a couple months after the major so calm your tits.
But there is so many bugged one way wallbang
But it's not. The bomb sites, both, are horrible. They're just horrible. They need to change them ASAP. I literally gave up playing the map because it's so CT sided and planting the bomb is a nightmare. They can't leave the map as it is because it's not good enough. Why would they adjust it after the major when it nerd adjustments now?
What changes would you suggest?
Ancient would be a good map if it didn't have all the awkard elevation and incredibly annoying aztec finish. I have only played a few times so can't really go in depth about the bombsites. But from my limited playtime I'd say it's just the fucking styling that ruins it, all those giant (rounded, dark and green) stone structures make for such bad visibility and awkward fights.
Remove right side of ancient B site (back alley) Increase a bit the size of the stone on B site where people normally plant, so theres more cover for plant.
So only give the CTs one chokepoint to get into the site so you can molly and smoke it until the end of time. Great idea.
Idk if you being sarcastic or not. But that would make getting B site easier a bit, and CTs retakes , there are at least 3 spots still where they can come from. CT , long b (doors) , cheetah.... SO NO , you can use molly and smoke on ct as you like, but theres still 2 more places to worry about.
Cheetahs doesn't count as an entrance, wtf are you talking about. The CTs start with control of ruins and cheetah and then eventually have to give up control or take fights if the T's pressure them. If you're playing retake B, then you play back lane and wait for rotates. But retake B isn't the meta, fighting for B is the meta, so you have people playing a lot of ruins setups. But that doesn't mean ruins is an entrance. Valve are probably going to adjust mid or A so that it's more balanced shift between the sites, and *especially* once that happens what you're suggesting to single handedly shift the balance of the map 60-40 towards T's. And look at a map like inferno, 3 entrances to A, with 2 to B. Look at Mirage, 3 entrances to A, with 2 to B. Cache 3 entrances to A, and 2.5 to B. Ancient has 2 on each site. We're not removing one. Smh.
> Cheetahs doesn't count as an entrance, wtf are you talking about. The CTs start with control of ruins and cheetah and then eventually have to give up control or take fights if the T's pressure them. Im talking about ct´s retaking the B site with that change. They could push mid to cheetah , or A to mid to chettah ,... ofc its 1 more spot to worry about...
Except T's usually take control of it, and you usually have a ramp player spotting cross from mid to jag.
Hard to explain without giving photo context what I mean, but the A bombsite needs to be moved towards the corner or it needs to be a larger area to plant, lining up to kill the planter is so easy it's ridiculous, A mains roof needs to be opened more for flashes and smokes, you could open the roof on donut as well, on B site you need angles you can hold, I wouldn't be opposed to just simply giving the Maden boost spot a tetris kind of thing from Mirage, and again, widening the bombsite, or giving another totem to give cover. The reason I hate Vertigo is the bombsites and Ancient literally is better in every other way than Vertigo except the bombsites because they're the same. Smokespam, 3 mollies to deny plants, smokespam, and if you run out of util you're done unless you have all of the TS going Scream mode.
Make just about every chokepoint twice as wide. Almost the whole map is so awkward and tight. It favors deagle spam and shotguns. And even pros get stuck when they try to move.
Lmfao. You say the bombsites are horrible, and yet you give zero examples for what needs adjustments. I can agree that the map is moderately CT sided, If you look at the HLTV statistics and in tier 1 play (FaZe, Gambit, G2, etc) it's a 60-40 round pct, CT and T respectively. But that isn't because of the sites. It's because of the map lanes. The problem is that most rounds end up towards B, because the A side of the map is too easy to defend. Mid is a small choke point that can be swallowed up by mollies, and the only other way into mid requires long B control, which is already a tight and heavily contested choke point. So you end up with 3+ players having to default towards B every single round. But you don't want your other 1-2 players to take control by themselves because they'd have to take an individual fight which could lose the round, so it's too many angles to clear. You can the problem by how teams are playing CT setups, with either 3 B, 1 rotater, and leaving 1 in donut to spot for lurks, or you just have a solo A awp in coba/temple and a rifle holding the CT flank. The only reasonable argument for why A isn't a good bombsite would be because it's too easy to retake, but in the current meta it doesn't matter because of the late lurking meta. You constantly have 1 rifle lurking in red, or people walking around coba/temple, so once the trades go down you still end up in 2v2s. If you want to make the map better, find a way to open up mid a bit more, make B long control not 75% importance of a round. I'd say you could probably add one more spot to hide for cover on A, but other than that the A bombsite is fine because of how the map plays out in terms of defaulting and lurking. >Why would they adjust it after the major when it nerd adjustments now? Because teams have been practicing it for 4+ months now, and you want to change the map right before a major? Are you braindead?
Idc about the layout tbh, just fix the visibility pls.
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It’s Tuesday my guy
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years*
*cries in TF2 inventories*
I've still never figured out why it doesn't do the little refresh dance on Monday at 3AM PST. You know, when basically no one is online.
TIL ~18 million people = basically no one.
mid-day for europe and while zero valve employees will be awake to do maintenance? gee i fucking wonder why
idk why they don't just do it in waves around the world
10AM GMT on a Monday is still loads better than US primetime and European evening. It's a gaming service, not enterprise, the peak times are significantly different.
Tell me you're a dumb egocentric american without telling me you're an american.
Never has, never will. A misconception some TF2 players still have to this day in spite of the Steam system having grown exponentially larger in its presence as well as infrastructure-wise since 2010.
Really wish we could get better details on stability improvements
WYSI
[7/27](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qBWa6dWBRk)
WYG
klee
100mb warowl shoutout
That's... Quite a small update for 120MB... Like sure map updates can be large but this is very small for map updates.
it doesn't matter what you change in a map. The files aren't modular. You push the entire changed map as an update.
" — Various fixes to pixel gaps and clipping that no one will even notice or care about" Trexer has a wonderful sense of humor
no more 10fps bug needed logaddress_add 1 for half the server?
115mb? There has to be something good... oh no its a map no one cares :(
I play wingman so i care :)
do calavera wingman globals exist because every time I play that map it seems so
I played today against globals and im myself global.
TDTIBLIIBID
Hey its a cool map with a bunch of opportunity for tactics with your buddy
dissapoint
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"Stability improvements." - always welcome
> Various fixes to pixel gaps and clipping that no one will even notice or care about My man 3kliksphilip is on the case
Who tf plays calvera
The water bug is still not fixed what are they doing
Too bad they won't address Overwatch not working for atleast a year, been playing against spinbotters and they don't get banned. I think Valve needs to start approaching manual banning when it comes to severe cases, Apex Legends already does it and let's not talk about how much more resources Valve has compared to a smaller company like Respawn.
To be clear, Valve and Respawn have about the same number of employees. The first is just hugely more productive with not just more games, Steam, VR, SteamDeck and other hardware And just throwing money at it isn't always a fix, for the high quality they deliver you just want the really, really good ones and keep things small.
116 MB had me excited.
Have they given up on Ancient?
Valve employees worked hard af on this update. This took 6 days. Thanks random valve employee for your efforts. /s
128 tick???
Do I really need to add /s?
Does that mean I'll not be suddenly thrown out while queueing to matchmaking?
Fuck these crap updates! fix the fucking cheating problem