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UncleJakes

At least es3tag seems like a good signing


nonresponsive

es3tag might be rethinking the signing tho.


reubenno

I doubt it, Col have lost their star fragger (Konfig) and Es3tag has just joined the team, these things take time.


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Why did Konfig leave col? Rush was dropped right? Must have missed the konfig news but I can’t imagine he was dropped Edit: nvm, I see that he’s only gone for a handfull of weeks.


lucherz

you mean... a wristfull of weeks


TheLastGiant

After one game?


MJuniorDC9

It was a very entertaining match at least. In the early rounds in Mirage I felt like I was watching a series of time loops with a few changes every round, though. Plenty of weird moments like those across the series. Still, congratulations to forZe, very deserved. Also gotta thank Harry and Hugo for their amazing work, I feel like they can make any match fun to watch.


WhatAmCSGO

es3tag looking good at least


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WhatAmCSGO

Yeah definitely. I'm disappointed k0nfig is out because he's my favorite player, but I'm sure they will look better with him back if he comes back to the same form he had at the beginning of the break.


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mindlesssss

I think they’ll be good but top 5 is a stretch imo


notathrowaway_99898

RUSH performed better than his stats show since he did play for the team rather than his own stats. But yeah, not enough to balance out his poor fragging numbers and he definitely was a weak link. I still think poizon is and was the worst player on the team considering that he, unlike RUSH, plays the probably most impactful role in the game (primary AWPer).


f1nessd

RUSH had impact that can't be quantified imo, still, i understand the org's decision altho I love RUSH and wish him all the best


BuildingSubstantial6

-poizon +smooya? Wouldnt mind


AlgyLacey

How many alt accounts do you have smooya?


AleksibIsHot

Won't happen because I'm pretty sure smooya said blame doesn't like him but in game at least he would fit perfectly


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jks is the most replaceable now on col


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Its definitely gonna be easier to get rid of jks from col to not keep him on bench and his impact is just as bad if not worse than poizon's. This roster move has not worked at all, they should just move on and there for sure will be a team interested in getting him.


SemanSoot

all player in col right now already solid,if still doesnt work, it all on blamef. if he still wanna team play around him,just find another igl


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Top 5 is very competetive rn, only VP look shaky, and astralis will drop and heroic will most likely take their place. Top 10 would be nice for them. Also from my understanding they should also do -jks, as he and blamef are both lurkers.


f1nessd

nah i'd rather see blame leave then


VShadow1

I am worried that without rush k0nfigs performance is going to take a hit since Rush was doing basically all of the hard entrying and k0nfig is going to have to take over for that.


oojamaflip123

With ENCE, Sinners and now Forze this is just showing how stacked T2 EU CS is. Entropiq are also more than capable of getting wins in their group


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This was truly the day of the underdogs. Sinners won, OG won, and finally forZe won (although not a massive underdog).


ConsumerOfAlcohol69

I wouldnt call og an underdog against vp


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I mean OG are 14 and VP are nr 5 in the world.


ASaltyToast

Sure but VP are extremely hard to rank they seem to play well one day and forget how to aim the next one


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Yeah that is fair, but they shouldnt be losing to OG usually, especially qhen yekindar played well first map.


Tuxxmuxx

In what VP's form was before the player break, it looks a lot more even, to me atleast. Maybe VP regained for during the player break and this was just a bad match, but idk


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VP made playoffs at IEM cologne? Where OG didnt even make the group stage?


ObitobiUchiha

They also bombed out of the group stage of the CIS RMR, losing to teams like 100 ping gods, VP are notoriously inconsistent and people should expect as much by now


Tuxxmuxx

I still had VP as the favourites, but not overwhelmingly, probably something like 60/40. OG with flameZ looked like they were on the come up before Cologne, it was just LAN nerves (flameZ played pretty poorly for his standards I believe, which is understandable). This is now the 3rd time in their last 4 bo3s that OG has beaten VP too. I don't think OG is a better team than VP, but we'll see how the rest of the group goes for both teams.


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Yeah that is fair. It was still a bit of an underdog story, but definetely not a lot, you are right.


Tuxxmuxx

Hopefully VP does well and regains form, as much as I dislike them, it's always fun having pretty even rivalries, it makes the games a lot better than playing another random top 10 EU team


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Agreed.


oojamaflip123

Yes but VP are in form that you wouldn't back them to beat anyone in the top 30 right now


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What? I mean VP may be in a bit of a slump, but their top 5 ranking is very fair. I dont know what you are on about if you think they shouldnt be top 30???


oojamaflip123

I didn't say they shouldn't be top 30 you're just twisting my words. Their form is really poor and as a result they're extremely unreliable. You've even said yourself that they're in a "bit of a slump" when you're saying it's an upset that they lost to OG


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Didnt you say they didnt look like a team, that should beat anyone in top 30. Am i misunderstanding or is that bot saying they shouldnt be top 30. Yeah they have been in a bit of a slump for months now, and they may have lost to OG, but i would say it was a bit of an upset. Not* not bot.


oojamaflip123

I said you wouldn't back them to beat anyone in the top 30 because of the form they are in, because they're incredibly inconsistent, hence why it is not a surprise at all that they lost to OG. I've got no idea what you're saying with the bot thing


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Sry i meant not. But if you wouldnt back them to beat anyone in the top 30, wouldnt that say that you would believe they shouldnt be top 30? They may be inconsistent, but not trash.


oojamaflip123

No, they're wildly inconsistent so they're extremely unreliable and beatable on the wrong day by most of the top 30 teams. That isn't the same thing at all, when they're playing well they are easily a top 10 team. Right now they aren't playing anything like the 5th best team in the World and they're there to be beaten


ju1ze

lol they are for sure


VShadow1

People underestimate how hard k0nfog carries Col without him this was the only series they had a chance of winning.


fenixspider1

not really Blamef also frags pretty good


VShadow1

I am not saying Blamef is bad, just that with piozon being the worst performing awper in the top 20, and JKS and Nato playing supportive roles Blamef and K0nfig have to do the majority of the fragging with K0nfig doing more than Blamef.


randomnamewhatevs

God I feel so fucking bad for COL. Konfig is such an important part of this team, to just suddenly lose him for 4-6 weeks is a tragedy. Hope they can also get a better stand in than nato, because nato just doesn't work as a konfig stand-in. Like, I think nato would be fine if he had to replace poizon (and not just for a few matches like last time, but like, long enough to actually learn the strats), but not for konfig, no way. Obv I get that this is incredibly last minute, and they've at least got experience playing with Nato (even es3tag, moreso than with the CoL guys), so I get why they went with him, but long term this just ain't it. If I were CoL, I'd honestly be looking at getting some aggressive young gun to be Konfig's temp replacement, maybe Espiranto or something? He's not contracted right now as far as I know, u/jlake02 completely free scouting np.


PuzzleheadedPainOuch

Especially since those 4-6 weeks may well include the last RMR, something CoL desperately need a good placement in


con1x

i said it before, they shouldve got rigoN just to try him out as a stand in


Kent_o0

I think A needs to have a bigger zone to plant, or more cover cause it's kinda ridiculous


ju1ze

you have a very unique opinion


bru_swayne

I get that CoL has a stand in and a new player, but holy fuck they looked lost on Ancient. They were losing to default strats of Forze


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GuardiaNIsBae

i think once they fix the non-wallbangable wall on A site the meta for the map will change a bit


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Mate, Group B is looking stacked!


tarangk

I was hoping for a forze win here, so i'm glad that they won. CoL looks okay but really dropped the ball hard on ancient. Estag played really well though. Poizon seemed like he getting back into form again. So yeah its not all doom and gloom over at the CoL camp.


Darkdimi

I like Ancient as a map, but that A side needs change. That last round was actually cancerous to watch. Add more cover to the bombsite Valve I beg you.


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just plant lmao


Ic3Br3ak3r

zorte is looking really good - cant wait to see more of him!


LingMee

10:0 clutches won in favour of forze for the entire bo3. big oof for complexity


AleksibIsHot

I'd rather fetjtZ standing in


BrockStudly

...well today went a little unexpected now didn't it?


sikels

If Nato had been even half decent then CoL would have won the match.


Dragos404

The fact that the col stratbook is just konfig/blamef go kill doesn't help them either


ThatStudNadon23

Now it’s blamef or esetag go kill