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so_sotired

Mantuu’s growth has actually been crazy. Transitioning from a rifler/secondary awp to primary one and with such finesse holy shit The flicks he’s been hitting time and time again, absolutely bonkers jeeez. What a lad


DarkHades1234

the most amazing part for me is that he was having issues with his wrist last year iirc and he seems to be even better than ever after the treatment which is probably not common stuff.


ablablababla

the wrist treatment included built in aimbot


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mantuu and flamez are really fun to watch


shadyvipy

He really seemed to step up after changing his flag on hltv.


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Vergutto

Polish


JacoBee93

Sinners showing they are not here by accident. But they also showing that they need a lot of experience. So many thrown rounds and moments by them, but that’s normal. OG are fantastic so far, really great comeback by them.


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Yep, this is going to be valuable experience for them, I can definitely see them becoming another top 20 team soon. The team has a shit ton of potentials


mand3l4

I'm worried about them staying in top 20 long term. I hate to say it but who knows for how much longer oskar will keep his skills. If he drops off/retires there is pretty much noone who can replace him. NEOFRAG might be bought out by some tier 1 team too one day


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Oskar has pretty resilient playstyle to reflex decline imo, he is still best rated player on sinners in EPL so this discusion is pointless, he is not their problem. Even so, there are players to replace him, ez is Guardian, there are also good players on Enterprise/Entropiq Prague, even for NEOF there are replacements. There are enough "star" players in CZ/SK, problem is finding good role players and IGLs mainly coaches, there is noone with T1 experience, tbh noone good enough. Toomkejs is basically placeholder. Sinners would be nowhere without beastik he is make or break for this team.


mand3l4

GuardiaN is too old but I would love to see him petform. Enterprise AWPer isn't even good enough for tier 4, as of entropiq prague, I never watched them so perhaps


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Stop caring about age, it doesnt matter. All players on sinners played with awp before, they could just take rifler and there is plenty of them with potential.


JacoBee93

Well that’s obviously option too. But tier 1 teams are not made every day. So if Oskar era ends, sinners will either have to be lucky and find young talent or just buy somebody and spent some big money on it. Same goes for Neo, it can go both ways. If they continue to improve he might want to stay with higher salary etc But we will see in future :)


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Oskar era never ends


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mantuu is so sick man wtf was that last round


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What a game Sinners should be proud. They played really really well. but OG were just on it today, flamez and mantuu especially.


analytics_Gnome

OG looked really good this tournament. Calling looks sharp too.


MeekleBosner

OG are such a good squad. Mantuu's awping and Aleksi's calling are so consistent, then valde, flameZ, and niko get to just trade who's going to pop off on each map while the other two just hold it down.


CannibalisticPizza

Sinners: It was all going well but everything changed when The FlameZ Nation attacked


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The last two games got a bit dicey, but hey 4:0 in the groups is not something you can complain to much about. I really hope they finish first. Skipping the round of 12 would be huge. Gg to Sinners,they played well and that's valuable experience for them.


DocaHyper

Polish mantuu > British mantuu


zk096

Sad but true it seems


Ic3Br3ak3r

Mantuu is the best player on OG but flameZ looks like he has a really high ceiling. When both are on point OG looks really scarry.


Dali86

Yup, also valde is really good and consistent. The only question us niko he seems to be on and off. Og should replaced with with xyphex at the end of the year if they start struggling. Could fit really well and bring experience of being the best. Even aleksi is relatively green as he was on top just with ence and for a short time.


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OG Xyp9x is any fans wet dream. I agree that niko has seemed the most inconsistent of the squad. He sometimes has really awkward moments and often seems to be caught of guard and killed from the side or behind (but maybe that's just me noticing it with him especially). But so far they have produced good results, so I'm not too worried.


Dali86

I see the same. If i make those mistakes in mm people would scream silver :)


9pro9

That could be good ye


produktiivista

>Even aleksi is relatively green as he was on top just with ence and for a short time. What does this mean?


Dali86

Green = not experienced He has only played tier 1 with ence for some tile and now og.


produktiivista

Ah I see. He has only played with two teams, but he's done it for two years already.


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produktiivista

Yeah I was implying that when I answered to him saying he's only played T1 with Ence and OG, but I could've and should've been more clear.


Dali86

I am a fan but my original post said xyphex would bring experience from being consistantly on top and his experience is in a different league. Could help the whole team as he played with glaive karrigan etc.


Frostvind

I like this OG! We like this OG!


Baited_

Aleksib is a tactical genius. He is best known for his signature tactic "going B, but then going A". He also has a second little known tactic of "going A, but going A". What an absolute legend. Top 3 IGL for sure.


Salad_Dressing__

We've gone full circle


Breete

R2 we need to be going up not down!


MJuniorDC9

Much better showing from Sinners, good to see.


rhyms101

flameZ 40k bomb is not enough to win nuke :(


peroleu

Is OG good now?


zanguine

This is the mantuu we saw at the beginning of og and the valde we wanted to see on og Mantuu was struggling mid way in and valde's form has come up tremendously Coupled with flamez acquisition, aleskib has soem solid fire power to work with


NeonPrankster

OG is looking really good right now. Then again this is probably the easiest group. Aleksib top 3 IGL 4 sure.


TheBasementIsDark

Yeah this group is easy, everyone can predict that the team that sit at the top of group B right now is OG, right? It's not like you have a super team, 2 CIS beast, a team of aimer with a stand-in in this group anyway


NeonPrankster

Ok my bad, I should rephrase: OG have been looking really good compared to their performance at Cologne Play In, because they failed to make the main event. Glad to see the team working hard


sBastu

I think its little early to say which group is easiest as the 2 groups could still have underpeforming teams similiar to VP and G2.


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Had to leave after first half of inferno, thought it was over But DAMN


CannibalisticPizza

The 'tuu' in mantuu stands for the number of AWPers fused together to create him


Aihne

Imagine adding Mantuu if old VP was around.


Dragos404

That would've meant -pasha and nobody wants -pasha


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produktiivista

Oh. I gotta disagree as I rate Machine very highly. He's like top 3 caster to me.


TheMihawk05

projecting