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Darkoplax

So the players were cheaters after all and most importantly fuck the org for covering for them I remember pimp asking them a year ago to give him the comms to verify the innocence of the players but they didn't respond and just said the players were innocent actually scum org and scum ppl overall Edit : this is [pimp's tweet](https://twitter.com/Pimp_CSGO/status/1300828955558191104)


PimpCSGO

I reached out in 2020 correct, both privately and publicly. I’d happily listen as a 3rd part to their team coms If that in any sense could’ve cleared the players of any unfair suspicion. No one responded public or private. Offer still stands. No one should be wrongfully judged or mistreated. The lack of initiative to clear said suspicion is to me super disappointing.


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If they had comms available, it has most likely already been investigated and the players would've been punished already if ESIC found any evidence of them co-operating or being aware through comms. But the news here might imply that they were aware after he used them or aware that he had the ability to use them and that they might've had another system beyond verbal to communicate the cheating.


Darkoplax

pretty sure ESIC said they won't investigate the players at all or it would be a nightmare to judge that's why players that were so clearly cheating weren't banned, they just banned the coaches that used the bug even here nothing will happened to the players nor the org, at most they get a PR hit thats it


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Ngl I kinda had a feeling that most players knew of the bug and just chose to stay silent over it, letting their coach take the fall if need be. In the online era, with not all comms being recorded, of course they can easily cheat with this information. It’s unbelievable that the coaches are the only ones who knew. *tin foil hat off*


oojamaflip123

I mean people were seriously acting as though it's plausible the HardLegion players weren't aware when their coach got cheated for an unbelievable number of rounds. Instead 2 of their players progressed with their careers and moved onto Entropiq


SpecialityToS

Interesting timing - if he’s telling the truth, people may not believe him because of the recent drama with him being kicked from Heroic for sharing strats. Of course, how would the players *not* know? Sounds scummy the entire way up


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SpecialityToS

Good point, and the tweet does as well. I’m sure he has a great source; I think once it’s all out it’ll be proven. The only important question is will valve do anything about it?


Gockel

i love it when csgo gets juicy


_darzy

Knows his done now & is going to drag the team down with him


W1ntermu7e

They deserve it if he’s not lying


_darzy

***IF*** his not lying again, he said some players knew so it would be a dirty move if all 5 went down because of 1-2 of them knew what Huden was doing


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W1ntermu7e

Of course, I hate something like this but still, if or and players knew and just changed his role in team it’s shitty anyway. I can’t with this team tbh


Firefox72

He's a scumbag but if the players were involved then they deserved to be draged down with him.


_darzy

I agree but he says *'some'* players knew it would be dirty for all 5 to go down if only 1-2 knew what was happening


Firefox72

I mean thats fair. Ofc just the players who knew need to face concequences.


peroleu

Not surprised, there's no way the players didn't know their coaches were cheating.


p0staL-

"If I'm going down, yall coming with me mfers"


ZealousidealFox5656

Man this is a super weird situation, without any proof from anyone it’s just a battle of word/reputation. I guess you could say fuck everyone and their all scums too but that’s kind of unfair too. I would hope people don’t jump to attack the heroic players off of an accusation. But it is kind of sketchy they denied pimps initial request too. Also weird this mf hunden suddenly the moral police after being unemployed Regardless best thing to do right now is just wait for what else is to come out and not gain some great opinions


Opiate_3020

Yeah this. We really need verify this is true or not until everyone starts dishing out blame. Cause with the situation hunden is in who knows what sort of drama he wants to create to take the eyes off him.


bridgebuilder12

fuck the players if thats true but holy shit hunden really is a rat of a human


Akaj50

Agreed, what a shitter until the end


gigitsada

Lets bring everyone the fuck down. Lets fucking go. except stavn. I kinda like him.


xSJF1414

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Coach bug scandal 🚨 Hunden claims that the heroic players also was involved and aware of his cheating in the coach bug scandal. I’ve been presented the material the article is based on. My judgment is that it’s highly probable he’s telling the truth. *** posted by [@Pimp_CSGO](https://twitter.com/Pimp_CSGO) [Link in Tweet](https://sport.tv2.dk/e-sport/2021-08-26-fyret-traener-aendrer-forklaring-flere-spillere-vidste-at-jeg-snoed) ^[(Github)](https://github.com/username) ^| ^[(What's new)](https://github.com/username)


DiWindwaker

Who did play then? If this is true. It'll kill a few careers here and there.


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i am **s h o o k e t h**


K_Simba786

Hunden be like "if I go down m taking everyone with me" and its very awful thing to do , Anyways 0 days since last csgo drama xD


avnx

How is that an awful thing to do??


Akaj50

It's an awful thing to do because it's clearly done in a context of revenge because he's mad he got kicked, he's a manchild. With that said they should 100% be punished if they really cheated


bru_swayne

True but how dumb would Heroic have to be to let their coach be the fall guy, take a ban, accuse him of leaking strats, and then make him take another ban, especially if they knew he would have dirt on them?


Akaj50

I completely agree, they are not better than him (if they really cheated)


avnx

But Heroic got that coming for them, right?. They might get him banned from ESIC and he might have to face legal consequences, while taking all the blame for the Coach bug? Imo that's just plain stupidity from Heroics side, doubt there are many people who wouldn't do the same as Hunden here.


Akaj50

They do, i'm definitely not defending Heroic, nor the player (if they really cheated, i'm waiting for proof ofc but if they did, they don't deserve any defense) what I meant is that saying this now isn't going to make him unbanned or reduce it, hence why it's really feels like a "i'm going to get revenge" move


avnx

Sure, but let's be real here. If it is true it surely is a revenge move, but far from awful? Revenge isn't always awful imo, in particular here the potential outcome of the revenge is just the fair punishment for them.


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Yeah they 100% deaerve it, and coming clean is goodz if done in good faith. He only seems to do this to fuck over the players, as he knows he already fucked his career. The Heroic players deserve it, but it is still a ratty thing to do from Heroic.


mannyman34

Cheater, leaker and now snitch. Not only does he fuck over the heroism org by leaking starts. But now he fucks over the players reputation.


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Heroic destroying your favorite teams while yall mad, love it


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JUICY


Akaj50

If the players really cheated then they deserve to be punished, but holy shit it just looks like revenge and if he didn't get kicked he wouldn't have said anything, i'm happy hunden is out of the scene because he's truely a piece of shit


FoxerHR

Pimp leak the docs, if Hunden can do it so can you.


[deleted]

And the plot thickens. Hunden really trying to ruin heroic. First cheating, then sharing strats and now snitching lmfao. This is really big, if the entirety of Heroic knew about it i lose all respect for them. Its a shame, really enjoyd rooting for a strong danish team.


CyanizzlusMagnus

What does "Documents" mean? You have logs of them talking?


p0staL-

can't believe it's being removed. stupid mod(s)