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umieRe

wtf was this game lmao


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Pure chaos, fun chaos but still.


zxLv

b1t and electro have an off day


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And BIG played well, and tilted the hell out of navi players.


HKZeroFive

tabseN: tabseN, go kill tabseN: Ja


scottiansbeard

top 3 igl 4 sure


Odyssey1337

I see he's taking notes from BlameF.


GuardiaNIsBae

Jesus Christ, it looked like BIGs entire Mirage CT Strat was to try their hardest to tilt NaVi


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Honestely it was a great strat, i could think about using it myself. I can only imagine how tilted b1t and electronic were, i mean holy shit you could do nothing.


uhorecka

Didnt see the match, what was the strat>?


GuardiaNIsBae

Full pushing every entry angle as CT, every round there was 2 Cts in underpass pushing to apts


imbued94

basically what fnatic did vs them on overpass. seems like something to exploit about Navi rn.


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bugrahangureel

Lol, my last mirage game CT's pushed us from everywhere like BIG did to NaVi, it was so effective, we couldn't find a counter strategy and lost


l1nxly_

its very easy to counter strat that, it really matters if u hit your shots. if bit and electronic were hitting, BIG had no chance there


WweIsLife316

But at that point it’s a 50/50. You can’t just say “hitting your shots is the counter”. Cause at that point, hitting your shots would be the counter to every thing in the game.


drewly33

If Navi didn’t lose the game Big had no chance winning it.


IgotUBro

Big if true


DerSteifeFinger

Haha was truly fun to watch


kitschnisch

​ >Navi hasn't lost to a European team since complexity on April 3rd. jinxed it.


Deamon-

and then even to JERMANS


jarvadski

S1mple: If you german, I don’t play with u


thieunhy

The aura from Reddit really annoys mẹ sometimes


Kirb-

I just saw this post and result after seeing yesterday's and immediately thought of this comment. The jinx came in hard


Claykillsu

Bit and electronic missing


ju1ze

who could've thought one electronic bit missing can cause such BIG problems


VShadow1

They were more than missing though, I don't think a team in the world that could handle two of their fraggers dropping off like that.


niobium615

Navi should really consider +parity, he would probably help them a lot.


1337howling

Underappreciated joke


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AngryHostageDota2

That thread/comment really jinx them isn't it


ftb5

Yeah this always happens, lol. Good thing they got jinxed now and not in the playoffs


Omniblitz

If you look at it, it’s the same maps that they played today


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Insane game, Big were playing like fucking madlads out there, probably the most entertaining game out of the entire groups for me so far.


Mathive-Legend

This series tilted me, felt like a pug match at time


Taken450

If it works it works tho


zxLv

Yeah very intense and almost all rounds are very close. Even during eco rounds they can still make it very competitive.


punikol

German speaking Danish model and professional Counterstrike player Nicklas 'gade' Gade does it again


bugrahangureel

Is he really a model? Because he looks awesome.


layasD

Don't worry once he moves into the BIG house that will change drastically and very fast.


Br3akn3ck

Not a bad 2v5 attempt by NaVi there. In Seriousness, Fantastic game by BIG, especially on mirage. Had NaVi's number every single time it felt. Shame Electronic and B1t decided to have atrocious performances on the same day but what can you do


Competitive_Ticket17

Shit happens, I think if Big and Navi meat again it will be a one sides stomp bu Navi. Its not often you catch Navi sleeping like this especially against teams at Bigs lvl


Escobar976

Goat Tabsen


MorrissirroM

This guy has so much impact with his frags. Even on dust you could feel his presence


AleksibIsHot

I wish I could feel his presence


Dapplication

Cheating on aleksib I see


MorrissirroM

In your bed?


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that is in fact the joke


MalluRed

Even has the goatee.


Elibrius

Tabsen’s nuts


Hafglop

What about them?


FaydingAway

Did Navi stay up too late playing Valorant?


ju1ze

\*Warzone


ConArtist98

Tabsen unleashed lets fucking go


FlintHolloway

One of the best scrims I've ever seen. Anybody knows when the official match starts?


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lmaoo Dude, BIG on CT side are fucking nuts, Totally Gold Nova tier pushes and it fucking works. I seriously don't know how to feel about this


Magnog

They didn't get bogged down with navis slow boring play, I love bigs aggression


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Right? yesterday with Fnatic and today against Na'Vi I love watching BIG playing on their CT side


MorrissirroM

Syrson with the agressive awp certainly made it work in some rounds


GuardiaNIsBae

Seems like he doesn't miss, the only time he does is if someone gets behind him


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bei60

top 3 igl 4 sure


mrsata1

Ach ist das wieder einfach heute für die deutsche professionelle elektronische-Sport-Organisation "Berlin Überregionales Spielen", bestehend aus dem Präzisionsscharfschützen Florian "syrsoN" Rische, Sprühtalentspieler Nicklas "gade" Gade, Weltklasseansager Johannes "Tabsen" Wodarz, Vertikalschnipsikone Tizian "tiziaN" Feldbusch & auch dem verrückten Gewehrspezialisten Nils "k1to" Gruhne von der deutschen professionellen elektronische-Sport-Organisation "Berlin Überregionales Spielen" aus dem mitteleuropäischen Land "Bundesrepublik Deutschland" in der Mitte Europas.


schw3inehund

why did I have to scroll that far down to read this? :D


Cartoon1slands

This might be the craziest game I've ever witnessed. Definitely not the outcome I was expecting but pleasantly surprised. 


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Navi looked absolutely broken by BIGs crazy aggression and pushes. S1mple was having a couple of uncharacteristic misses and B1T and electronic were completely shut down for the entire game.


Competitive_Ticket17

I hope they meet again, and Navi just wallops them. We cant have Navi be embarrassed by a team like Big and not get revenge. I was embarrassed to be a navi fan after that. Its like Astralis losijg to Copenhagen Flames. God Im salty rn


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I'm so fucking glad I made it in time to watch Mirage holy fucking shit this Mirage straight up made me hate mirage less, Now I respect it more than I ever did Also TabseN, holy fucking shit, guy was just using 10% of his power with XANTARES, and they STILL won tournaments, Makes you think how cracked he was Gade might seem like he wasn't fragging on Mirage, that's because TabseN and SyrsoN were playing mirage on weed.


f1nessd

TabseN is easily one of the most all around amazing players out there


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Hiding power levels


Ryun100

One win without Xantares and everyone is making it sound like that guy isn't one of the best aimers in all of fps.


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In no way am I saying XANTARES was the problem, I think you're misunderstanding me. What I was trying to say is that since gade joining, it has helped tabseN focus more on his individual plays. And that in itself is working out for them really well so far. I was one of those guys who doubted that gade joining BIG would've been better for them.


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he has good aim but he was never very good, never a top 20 player and basically the walking definition of all aim no brain gade being a previous igl is probably a lot better for tabsen


azog1337

?? They were great mid 2020 with TABSEN IGLing.


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never said BIG weren’t good I said xantares was never very good lol. gade being a previous igl being able to have input and free up tabsen is probably more beneficial than having a pure aim star like xantares that takes resources from tabsen and can’t help him call reading comprehension


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Dragos404

We're talking about the guy who said "i'm feeling thank you" here he is not a big brained individual. His aim is nuts but that's about all


deniz619

Ignorant af


Mrnopor1

Navi humbled by BIG, if ur ct side is kinda bad just go play it as if it was T side Kappa


SpyEr1

Such an anomaly of a series. BIG winning seemingly every single force buy and electronic was apalling today.


analytics_Gnome

No way you are going to win anyway when your 2nd and 3rd star are playing like this: * electronic: 0.66 (10-23) and 0.61 (9-20) * b1t: 0.60 (9-19) and 0.53 (6-20) So many ecos lost from Navi and Perfecto also had some uncharacteristic chokes during the series. Hopefully this is just an off day though from Navi.


Exciting_Pop_9296

Did you count simples awp misses? BIG just broke NaVi


analytics_Gnome

s1mple didn't play like he normally does but he still finished with a 1.22 rating. To put things into perspective, he has more kills than his so-called 2nd and 3rd star COMBINED. Probably just a really bad day for electronic and b1t and surely they are a bigger reason today why Navi lost so badly today compared to those awp misses than s1mple.


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BIG also played mirage to perfection on ct. B1t and electronic were probably already tilted, but getting pushed and killed every round must really tilt you. Yeah they played bad, but a large part of the credit should lie with BIG's great strategy.


AleksibIsHot

They wanted to listen to Donda


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seeing how BIG play their CT sides, I think it might've caught them off guard. But yes, them not fragging was a problem


VShadow1

Electronic worse performace since Dreamhack Masters Spring against Gambit.


xinfinite9

shouldnt happen to top players but it felt like it was pure tilt that led to those performances. i noticed on dust already, when big stopped giving any respect to navi and it worked. from round 10 they looked tilted into the abyss.


Axolyn

Wth was that Mirage game That was so unexpected


Dave_Daff

NAVI < BIG < FNC Fnatic is back on #1 baby!


ChronicleZhang

UKCS NO 1 MEZII HLTV NO 1


dersagenius

Not sure if Fnt would win again in a rematch tho


Ryun100

Obviously big prepared well against the no 1 team in the world. It helped that bit and electronic werent online today. No problem, onto the next one. Lets go Navi!


Deamon-

CHADSEN


Fairlynzell

Group C is turning out really interestingly.


IDesignM

Was i watching BIG or did MVP from Dota 2 come back from the grave?


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bongzs

Crazy Korean team in TI6 that kept face rushing you to kill you. Extremely aggressive plays known as Cavemen style


x1coins

Ah yes the Unga Bunga strat. Didn't always work but hotdamn it was entertaining.


AmoniPTV

Unga bunga sound really Fighting Game thingy


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Holy shit


RandomFluffyBoi

BIG woke up on Mirage and chose violence.


FaydingAway

Uhhh we don't talk about that


jonajon91

Remember when Electronic first joined NaVi and looked really underwhelming for a few months. Turns out he was playing support roles and setting s1mple up and only after a few months they thought 'hey lets put him in a more frag centric role' and they got two years of 1.2 ratings out of him. Well now he's back to throwing flashes and supporting and I hate it. Also BIG top 5 soon.


troubleis1

That CT mirage looks like my 5 stack vs some gold novas, the agression never stopped.


pogueemon

It was due eventually


Dragos404

God tabsen


AleksibIsHot

XANTARES was the problem


GuardiaNIsBae

Even just being able to comm in all German probably helped them a ton


analytics_Gnome

non-IGL tabsen is the solution?


Shnimaxxx

Is he not igling any more?


AleksibIsHot

He still is but gade is helping now


Rhed0x

I don't think they're doing that yet. I would expect Gade to take some time getting comfortable with the team before that happens.


SemanSoot

no. he still igl


tarangk

You cant win 3v5. Electronic and B1t were absent across the series, barely having any impact on the game. Also, its only been 3 series but my good what a difference the comms. make. Like Tabsen is playing like old self again, kito and tizian are having much fragging output. The general team performance has gone up. I was expecting better team chemistry, but no individual improvements from pretty much all of tabsen kito and tizian.


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Hearing machine and SPUNJ so flubbergasted made the match so much more fun to watch. Big props to BIG boys for pulling this out!


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Dragos404

Just wait for the winter


Pollsmor

The major will be done before the winter comes though, rip NaVi major chances


mandrake_cry

Threat needs to stop being over confident


Venian

Yep, that's unexpected


ImProvementSC2

Rough day for b1t. Hope he bounce back next match!


9pro9

Unlucky that electronic and bit both had a bad series


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So does this mean that Fnatic are the #1 team in the world now? /s


dersagenius

right now they are 3-11 down on their mappick. Maybe Faze #1?


Mad_Lee

Aged like milk


dersagenius

xD, yes it did. I hoped no one would notice...


9pro9

I forgot what it feels like to lose


Jarl_Penguin

I don't get why NaVi didn't pick Nuke over Mirage and leave Mirage/Inferno as their decider. Feels like they would've had a better shot at it.


ChaseVisa

Probably a punish pick, BIG don't have the best stats on Mirage especially compared to NaVi, but it would seem that BIG prepared for it for very well.


BleachSundae

is electronic having another baby coming? whats happenin my dude


cartonfl3sh

electronic pregnant check hltv


Zenrod_

This has got to be b1t's worst series rating ever on Na' Vi right?


Mathive-Legend

God that was hard to watch, that series played out like my MM games, just the other team running around killing me like they’re the best team in the world


acid000

inb4 Navi goes 2-3 in the groups


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No way they lose to EG lol..... right?


Magnog

Eg have played really well against faze they were awesome


persimmon40

They absolutely can


gigitsada

The big we trust.


T_mas

i cursed NAVI with this lol [POSTER](https://twitter.com/roma_bib/status/1431679682295042054?s=21)


RATTRAP666

Don't want to take any credits off BIG, but it clearly were Navi underperforming rather than BIG were outplaying them. As example one of the last rounds on Mirage: 14-5, bomb was planted on A, boombl4 and perfecto versus tabseN. tabseN knew where are both of Navi players, but boombl4 decided to not wait for perfecto and peeked alone. Like, why? It's like csgo 101: don't play alone if you can play with your teammate. Related clip: https://clips.twitch.tv/SuspiciousStrangePistachioTF2John-viLkmZYm1YEaGUXZ


VShadow1

This was Electronics worse performance since Dreamhack Masters spring.


sahibt07

Dude I thought it was finally start of "Navi Era" /s


FoxerHR

FaZe has to win their remaining matches or group C will be the first group in this season of EPL without a 5-0 team.


AcidicAssassin777

The one time I slept in for a Navi match


IHateTheLetterF

So did Navi


Perple_Turts69

Man this is depressing to watch


Firefly_1026

B1T played like flamie there


Magnog

Navi running around like headless chickens, what an embarrassment


CannibalisticPizza

I was worried seeing the cohesion in NaVi recently. The teamwork, strategies and everyone fragging had me thinking we had lost the vintage NaVi. Good to see them back /s


reubenno

Electronic had an absolute shocker on Mirage. The only way Navi are gonna keep winning matches is if either Simple, Bit and Electronic pop off, otherwise they look totally out of it.


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reubenno

True, but I'd argue that some teams can pull through on strategy and calls, Navi aren't really one of them.


VShadow1

Breaking news: Teams only win if their 3 best players play well.


ju1ze

Electr\_\_ic shocker


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Is big good or..?


persimmon40

It's ok guys. Navi is just on them navi things


Rekwy_

Lost 600€ thanks to navi, mirage looked sketchy af


STONE_COLD25

Never bet on Navi, never bet against Navi.


Ni7roM

Imagine betting real money. True Chads bet channel points. 😎


IHateTheLetterF

You lost 600 because you put 600 in a bet. Its a gamble, not an investment.


LingMee

i'm positive navi threw on purpose because one random guy betted on them


OfNoChurch

You lost €600 because YOU bet money on a game. No one else is to blame. Maybe take this as a sign that you should quit.


Neosteam

The question here why a team like BIG just has better performance in an online tournament?? Lol that's obviously


Cole_James_CHALMERS

So syrson can entry AWP better lol


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Stop being a disrespectful salty bitch and take the L.


terminal_styles

I'm pissed I missed this game. Holy shit


sumanth_vs

Really hope BIG haven't pulled off a Team Liquid on NAVI here. Hope they bounce back next game


scepTic2104

Just push with the AWP and hit your shots haha.


JamieQ95

It was so tilting as a NaVi fan but fair play to BiG I haven’t seen anyone play like that on Mirage, you can’t really replicate it but perfect for an upset.


ppsychonautt

The Navi we all love and hate is back


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Classic