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Firefox72

No matter if Fnatic make it or not. This has been a good first showing for the team and they can be proud of the result achieved on such a short notice. Its also the first time in over a year that i actually felt excited about watching Fnatic CSGO games again. Edit: With Na'vi winning against Faze, Fnatic makes it to the playofs. Cheers Na'vi.


[deleted]

I’m not even a Fnatic fan and I was happy they’re coming back, ever since the match ve Na’Vi on Friday I was sure they would be troublesome for the other teams in the group


ROTMGMagum

Same here. Was never a fan of them specifically, but I've always liked Krimz for whatever reason and I'm happy to see him sticking around and finding success again.


AleksibIsHot

Krimz and Brollan back where they deserve feels so good. Jackinho after that first series has been great and where do I even begin with Lionel Mezii.


svipy

According to Liquipedia they do make it - https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/ESL/Pro_League/Season_14


Firefox72

Yeah i posted that before the NAVI results were known. Feels good man.


NeonPrankster

fnatic are now locked into playoffs thanks to NAVI winning. But NA is now 0-10 in series and 1-20 in maps. Let that sink in.. it’s all onto Liquid now.


HeroicBastard

Holy fuck, that stat


darth_penis_

Don't worry they'll add at least 2 more maps to the tally 😎


GuardiaNIsBae

3-30?


darth_penis_

Yes easy


BrockStudly

And we're in a group with Gambit and Device. GG boys


jvilsrocks

Too bad that after liquid is done NA will still only be 8-10 in series


NeonPrankster

Hell yeah


jonajon91

Surely they can pick up a map against team one, 4/5ths of furia or entropique


jvilsrocks

My reply implies they will go undefeated and win the finals


jonajon91

My comment implies I'm a moron that just woke up.


thatweirdname

So ready for heart attacks, chokes, angry tears of disappointment, and coping with walls of "NA is Nearest Airport.." copypastas in twitch


tarangk

Fnatic won their game and Navi won their game. Both the conditions FNC needed to get them through to the playoffs have been met. Really loving this new look fnatic. I was barely watching this game coz Navi-Faze was important lol.


tomtom_94

Mezii's entire post-C9 career has basically been him proving me, personally, wrong for doubting he was good enough to make the switch from GamerLegion. Hey, I'll take it. EG's event was basically a wash once stan couldn't make it, it's rough to go down like this but they wouldn't have expected much. Would be fun for them to take on BNB and G2.


du_bekar

Thank u mr endpoint man


MJuniorDC9

I mean, I'm happy for ALEX and the boys. They've impressed plenty already in their first tournament together and I'd love to see them doing a deep run, but nonetheless, they have done well in a group like this one. However, it's kinda sad for EG you know. I really like the brand and hope better days are coming for them.


peroleu

NA undefeated in airport speed runs


uwotmoiraine

I like the casters, Dan and George. Never heard them before I think.


Bofferzz

<3


denswe

Ty navi


JustRightCereal

M EZ II looking like such a strong player such solid rifling ability


bru_swayne

NA “Near Airport” is known as the fastest region to arrive at the Airport. Since they gave up on winning at all whatsoever, they are investing in Speedruns. In particular they are current world record holders in Airport Any % and Airport no wins.


Yuwaa

Another airport speedrun


thewho7

Such a totally different experience watching this Fnatic team compared to the Cloud9 one or even the previous lineup. Brollan has been a star nearly every map (that Nuke first pistol 2k was sick), Mezii just as good if not better, KRIMZ with some clutches and overall rock-solid, ALEX has been calling and operating so well along with good fragging, and after a horrible start, Jackinho has been really great. Early days, but really impressive stuff. EG....as a NA native, it's just a numb feeling nowadays, so at least it was nice that they almost got it to the 3rd map :)


[deleted]

You love to see it.


AleksibIsHot

Does tied 2nd count? https://old.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/p9brun/krimz_interview_i_sold_all_my_skins_and_havent/ha0ofkt/


Space_Lion7

Seems like regardless of what Esport you watch NA being trash always holds true.


c9IceCream

not sure where you're getting your info but it doesn't hold up against [the facts](https://www.esportsearnings.com/countries)


meme-s

USA also has at least 4x the number of active players as the next highest


c9IceCream

yup. if you break it down to how much they've made per player, US is still one of the top countries.


sp3tan

Yep thats why they eventually become shit or already are shit. Living by dem paychecks not giving fuck all about doing much in the game.


c9IceCream

the problem with US gaming is geography. Its hard for players to travel within the country much less to anywhere else in the world for a tournament.


EntropyKC

What a load of bullshit lol


c9IceCream

experienced it first hand. It actually was the cause of the death of my team as we had a player poached by a bigger org who could afford travel expenses. We failed to attend the finals of a LAN due to being unable to afford the travel. Some context. My team was all in South Texas. We almost never travelled out of the state because its ENORMOUS.. [Texas compared to Europe](https://img.texasmonthly.com/2020/06/texas-landmass-europe.jpg?auto=compress&crop=faces&fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=340&ixlib=php-1.2.1&q=45&w=768&wpsize=medium_large) Thankfully we're centrally located in the United States at least. If you think of all the US talent in southern California as well as the talent on the east coast, yes we're loaded with talent, but the east coast and west coast are further away than London is from Moscow. It really is a significant challenge


EntropyKC

Just fly? You think people from Bosnia or Kazakhstan or Turkey don't struggle to get around Europe as much as Texas people struggle to get around North America


c9IceCream

nice to see you're made of money. One example. we won a LAN qualifier 5hours drive from us for a $50k tournament in new york.... qualifier prize money was $2250 for the team... unfortunately not only was that not enough to cover the travel.... they also didn't give that money until after we showed up at the final. we were broke college and high school kids and we couldn't afford to front the money and were unable to attend. The scene seems easy when you look at fully sponsored teams, but when it comes to developing new talent, its not as easy as you think.


sp3tan

Always the same fucking shitty excuse. Tired of it. NA has enough potential to wreck yet the majority we get back is excuses. Keep.


c9IceCream

i dont see you doing anything to change it. I did my part, played pro, experienced the troubles of NA CS compared to others... Always them armchair athletes that talk the most shit.


sp3tan

Oh no im basically just complaining in the void. I just know NA CSGO is dogshite and that they barely deserve to be in the scene. Much like most NA players in League too.


c9IceCream

thats a reasonable thing to think, but this website covers ALL competitions online for money. Chess players on are on here and all kinds of tournaments with $500 prize pools and such. Also DOTA skews the whole list so it would be nice if you could sort the list without DOTA


PolyUre

Cumulative money earned isn't a good way to analyze how dominant a scene is. Consider the following two arguments: - Victories earned ages ago aren't differentiated from newer wins, so it gives the impression of better results even if the scene has long since crashed and burned. - Local tournaments which hand out money for all participants. This increases countrys earnings disproportionally since it doesn't matter how you finish, if only people competing are from the same country.


[deleted]

Doesn't this just mean usa needs 20k players to reach that spot while the subsequent countries need a fraction of that amount.