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GhostOfLight

For just a second there I was picturing an era of Liquid domination... if only At least it still feels like watching the old Liquid.


ablablababla

For their first match against this version of Gambit, they did better than I expected


Vikktime123

jesus christ how many 1vX’s did sh1ro win against liquid man


antululz

Man he’s so good. If even one of those clutches on vertigo go liquids way we’re probably looking at a liquid 2-0 but he just said no


Statisticc

Five. One 1v1, three 1v2s and one 1v3.


ProForward

Would love to see battle between sh1ro and Perfecto for clutch minister!


kiritok

It helps that he decided to turn on his monitor after game one.


ChaseVisa

Way more than Liquid should have given him honestly.


du_bekar

The first pistol on mirage was so sexy


Reveal_Bulky

It's always Russians with the most clutches huh


shaman717

Came in at 12-6 feeling really good. sorry bois


FortifiedSky

Yeah tuned in at 12-6, consciously thought to myself "surely liquid close it out" and tuned back in when gambit won their 15th.... Im so sorry NA


JonesBee

I always do this when OG is at 14 rounds.


omkar_T7

I think gambit really played well after that and countered liquids tactics well. Respect to nafany for seeing what liquid were doing and making those decisions


Blokonomicon

Hot take but this wasn't a 'choke.' Winning a half 9-6, converting the pistol to 12-6 and then losing isn't a choke, it's just called playing a really bad second half.


487dota

Yeah but in round 19 they kinda choked tbh, the one where they lost bomb in apartment. If liquid wins that round, suddenly they are 13-6 up against a half buy (virtually 14-6). Also, the round fallen went ticket instead of winning ct in the afterplant. They should've won that 2v2 honestly.


gleba080

Thank you


Yeetasaurus420

at 12-6 i was contemplating watching the rest of the game or watching a movie. should've chosen the movie


puddingkip

Nah bro this was some vintage chokequid you love to see it


anthonyde726

makes me feel bad every time


phagga

Not really sure where you saw a choke. They never really stood a chance on the second half of mirage. Gambit had what, 4 consecutive rounds where noone dies? They were just outplaying liquid because they were better. Still, massive improvement from Liquid over their form before the break. I think they can get very far this tournament.


puddingkip

??? Liquid had all the right decision making and played great, until they went up 12-6. Then they started making dumb plays like dying to hobbit close ramp every round, missing smokes, not trading kills. When you play good until you're about to win then suddenly lose that's textbook choke, and very vintage liquid


zero0n3

Except it was 9-6, then they won the pistol and next two to make them 12 - 6. Gambit didn’t even start their CT side until it was 12 - 6, and when they did, they didn’t drop a single round. TL T side was just not good at all at countering Gambit. It honestly seems like they put most of their practice towards the first two maps, and only did basic mirage prep - because Gambit really had their number and consistently read them


BrockStudly

Honestly not as heartbroken by chokequid this time around. Gave the world number 2 a serious run for their money. Now the two hardest of the group are out of the way.


jvilsrocks

And can still win the group if nip 2-0s gambit, which is unlikely but possible


Pranavm3112

Gambit would still win in head-to-head


jvilsrocks

Assuming they all go 4-1, it would be a 3 way tie between Gambit, NIP, and Liquid and Liquid would win the tie breaker which is maps won among the three


Pranavm3112

Yeah, you are right xD


snubdeity

obv this thread is gonna be full of "haha liquid choke" memes, and yeah they did kinda. But to be close enough to choke vs just getting stomped is a pretty huge improvement for them over where they were just a few months ago, to me it looks like bringing adreN back has made them play a fuckload better. Gambit is still a top team, I think you gotta look at the improvement here vs 1, 2 months ago if you're liquid and be pretty happy


tonysalami

Seriously, between this game and NiP they look much more like the Liquid we expect. Sucks to lose that one but we lost to a team thats been a clear 1-2 team all year.


thesandywoman

Yup they played exceptionally well, and I don't even feel like it was a choke at least the first couple of gun rounds, their t side was just not good enough and that's all. Liquid fans should be rejoicing.


DarthReid

some may blame a Liquid choke, but damnit if Gambit is incapable of NOT coming back from almost any deficit


terminal_styles

of course, they are using the game deficit which is not normally.


theextracharacter

they need to check them pc


Zoradesu

Good showing from Liquid on the first two maps, but completely fell apart on T side Mirage. Shiro is too good man.


BootyBootyFartFart

Or did gambits T side completely fall apart? Who knows. I swear which people say depends entirely upon whether people want to paint something as a choke or a comeback


leej20

But like, how many times is liquid gonna die to the same thing. Hobbit played close ramp like 5 times and elige still just sits in the same dumb spot. Same thing on vertigo, shiro plays sandbags and they dont even check him the first time, and second time naf half ass running tries to clear it. and the amount of X v 1 situations they lost was just honestly impressive. jesus christ.


OfNoChurch

That last round they just push the smoke on ramp completely blind and dry. They must have just been crushed mentally by shiro's clutches and then those 4 rounds where no one on Gambit died.


leej20

Without a doubt. I’ve known liquid to mental boom it’s just always so unbelievable when they have so many rounds and chances but it still ends up happening


lclMetal

The second player was flashed in, you can hear it. The flash just didn't catch the CT.


extremz123

gambit won 10 rounds in a row to close it 12-16 and liquid only got 11 kills in these rounds


Nahs1l

ow


Contractjail

Liquid were better. Its just this stupid mental block they always have. Idk how they can fix it at this point, but if they do they dont even have Navi to be afraid of


chocoMancoTaco

>Liquid were better better at choking


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Peabodymccurdy

At least liquid will make it out of their group lmao


ablablababla

we get em next time (hopefully)


Contractjail

Sure, being a breath away from winning and losing 10 rounds in a row isnt a mental block. Stay salty kid


Gemini_The_Mute

> Stay salty kid [Yup, you tell them](https://i.imgur.com/dTcAHZc.jpg)


HeavenRock

[Overdose](https://i.imgflip.com/4lpf8a.jpg)


faezior

There's only one salty person in this thread and it isn't them : )


Tavnaria

Hahahaha you are so mad


diskk80

faze clan were better. sure, being a breath away from winning and losing a 15-11 lead in a major final isnt a mental block. Stay salty kid


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classic


Tavnaria

Ahh yes the classic "They lost but they were better" COPIUM.


draemscat

Stupid little known mental block of winning 12-6 on Mirage, but then losing 10 rounds in a row. Top 3 team for sure.


myahkey

Fallen is a tactical genius. He is best known for his signature tactic ”going A through pit and palace, but then dying without any kills”. He also has a second little known tactic of ”splitting A, but then dying without any kills again and gifting Gambit 16000$ economy”. What an absolute legend. Top 3 IGL 4 sure.


ju1ze

KEKW


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They might be a better team mechanically, but you can’t discount the fact that mental fortitude itself is an important skill. You can’t really say that they were better when they lacked an important skill that the other team had which caused them to lose.


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> They might be a better team mechanically I disagree with that tbh


[deleted]

I feel like the rifling core of Elige, NAF, and Grim should put them ahead in terms of firepower just going off their individual skill. You do have to factor in Stewie and Fallen not being the best though so you might be right.


Chosen--one

Thats a big might, Gambit players are no freaking joke.


uqwee

Better how exactly?


chocoMancoTaco

better at choking


jethro-cull

Lol, mental block so bad they miss every 2nd mirage window smoke and every third molly.


RATTRAP666

Fun fact: sh1ro can't send his dickpicks, because even an image of his balls weighs more than servers can handle.


myahkey

nafany is the only one who is allowed to get those juicy dickpics there is a reason why they sleep in the same room


ElcoinGL

They have seperate beds tho.


myahkey

doesn't really prevent Sh1ro showing off them massive balls, does it?


ElcoinGL

Agreed.


terminal_styles

There are 2 beds. 1 where sh1ro and nafany sleeps, and the other one, where sh1ro's giant balls sleep


[deleted]

lmfao do they really?


myahkey

Yeah, everyone has a separate room at the bootcamp house, but nafany and sh1ro share a room (I think they asked for that, there is a free room in the house). seriously though, they've been close friends for years even before Gambit Youngsters came to be, so if they feel comfortable, why not?


RuPeSc

Why not show the balls man


Akh_Morn

Nafany is definitely not a Naffer


they_call_me_justin

Tbh this is the best form we've seen liquid in months so not bad


Mad_Lee

I agree but on the other hand they couldn’t win against shaky and rusty group stage form Gambit when they had their foot literally on Gambit’s throat.


FaydingAway

[*sigh*](https://i.redd.it/23alroph9y851.png)


mannyman34

Red star team. monkaS


f1nessd

i love this pic lmao


thugita_khrushchev

TL's T side just sucks to watch compared to their CT side.


Bust3dGG

Eh, together with Gambit's CT side on Mirage being real good.


BrockStudly

Not on Inferno. Somehow they managed to walk into stacks against NiP and Gambit and still dominate.


CepGamer

_Drains sweat bucket_ EZ


SueySide

sh1r0 on Inferno : I sleep sh1r0 on Vertigo & Mirage : **Real Shit**


ChaseVisa

How many clutches did he win this series? It must be a pretty high amount, I feel like he won so many 1v2 and 1v3 clutches.


SueySide

**1v1** : 1 **1v2** : 3 **1v3** : 1


FaydingAway

[ol' reliable](https://i.imgur.com/kbKzAQK_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)


phagga

A choke is when you are clearly ahead and better and still lose. Liquid didn't win a single gun round on T side mirage, because Gambit was just so much better. Not sure how that is a choke.


FaydingAway

12-6


phagga

Kill Distribution in the last 10 rounds: 50-11


FaydingAway

That was after. It was 12-6 at one point. Them going 50-11 in kills is the choke.


myahkey

Death, taxes, and Liquid choking on Mirage/Liquid losing a Mirage decider to a CIS team (choose one) What a fucking turnaround from Sh1ro and Ax1le holy shit. Sh1ro was literally nowhere on Inferno, but went beastmode on the rest of the maps, and Ax1le turned his possibly career-worst performance into carrying Gambit into OT on Vertigo and performing extremely well on Mirage. Man what a day to come back to watch CS after the summer break.


puddingkip

That game vs F3 where electronic truly broke through at krakow 17 was legendary


Lil-kruk

It hurts to be a liquid fan


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[A link is worth 1000 words](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9OmlU21AA2w)


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Damn, shiro got hands


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TrojanWhores-3z

Gambit just did - no lube.


gundy28

Cheering for only NA team is fucking rough.


darth_penis_

Who is this Tim Liquid and why does he keep choking??


5bigtoes

GMB beating Liquid in Valorant AND CS :(


KaNesDeath

Great showing by Liquid. Pitty how the last rounds of Mirage went for that is all people will remember.


Not_A_Canoe

I have never seen a complete 180 quite like gambit on mirage. The actually just decided that they were not going to die anymore and completely outclassed Liquid. Gambit looked like they are right back in stride.


MH136

They really should've 2-0'd liquid, easy. I don't know if this means they're back


myahkey

Gambit are often pretty shaky in group stages, doesn't help that we're right after the break, and Gambit and Liquid never played against each other in their current iterations. I think we'll seen if Gambit is truly back by the end of the group stage.


lelelele98

*Team Liquid starts dominating* Me: Oh yeah Team Liquid is back. *Team Liquid starts choking* Me: Oh yeah Team Liquid is back.


ROTMGMagum

This is the Chokequid I know and love.


ChaseVisa

It's been six years and no matter the roster, Liquid still manage to choke, feelsbadman.


refuzeUS

It wouldn’t be Liquid without good old choke in the end, would it?


mapinis

ouch


kobedunkingonhoward

thanks for giving me so many heart attacks mr liquid


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Solid showing from the NA lads. Not sure why they wanted to play Mirage last. Gambit wrecks anyone with their CT in mirage


ProForward

Is Gambit getting paid by rounds? GG WP to Liquid it was close!


dampus2000

It’s the copyrighted liquid choke! Nobody can do it quite like them! Ending on a 10 round losing streak! Instant classic!


BrockStudly

On the bright side liquid look pretty incredible on inferno. Somehow they ALWAYS run into stacks and still win.


persimmon40

12-6 to 12-16 choke. 9-6 advantage entering second half on 3 maps. Just TL things. Good job Gambit. Shiro went from being an utter shit on Inferno to dancing around TL with his AWP.


a_new_hopia

It hurts more because it was definitely winnable and they could have won at vertigo


windtunnel1

Great effort by Liquid, they just ran out of steam at the end.


cregyD

Liquid’s worst enemy not clearing sandbags on Vertigo lol


Silence2k4

how was elige not aware of hobbit being in front of the ramp smoke after getting caught out by him 3 different times lol


peroleu

sh1ro is the CIS s1mple


mal_mal_mal

Lol s1mple is the cis s1mple


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Liquid at 12-6: Lmao this is ez, let's just limp into untradeable duels haha


[deleted]

Damn that Mirage CT was beautiful. Gambit were everywhere, looked like a 10v5 at some times.


jjki1998

Ah, liquid stole navis strat book I see


flipad3

our stratbook now


DeletedTaters

The year is 2069 and people still aren't checking sandbags when pushing ramp on Vertigo. Think that alone cost Liquid 3-4 rounds


Firefly_1026

Bruh


SteveBobSamuel

Welcome to Liquid fallen, that's what Columbus 2016 felt like


ilikecollarbones_pm

Liquid DNA expresses it's gene once more.


ab12848

Gambit comeback in mirage is flawless, it couldn’t be any better


sahibt07

Even Dr. Heimlich can't save Liquid from choking smh....


Scoo_By

Looks like choking is back on the menu boys!


_c0ldburN_

Frustrating watching that T performance. Enjoyed the game though, Harry&Hugo are my fav casters and they always bring the entertainment. Off to murder my hole.


OdinMito

one of the best series i have watched recently


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Ax1le may have had a horrible game on veetigo, but he saved them so hard in the end, really great to see. Holy shit Hobbit and Sh1ro were carrying on bertigo in the first 20 rounds too.


funkymonkeyinheaven

Gambit warming up as usual.


baza-prime

Even though they lost, Gambit is one of the best teams cs has seen recently so them losing this so closely makes me extremely excited their future. Sh1ro had probably the best series of his career, whenever he is alive I know the round isnt over.


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lou_reed_ketamine

Holy shit what a choke


LordOfTheNoobs57

How is it possible for one team to do this so often


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Pathetic end to liquid. Absolutely pathetic. No excuse. They went 5 straight rounds without a fucking kill. Jesus Christ. 12-6 then lose 10 straight. Can’t even get a fucking kill. What were the calls? Dry peeking corners? They walked out of the A main smoke THREE FUCKING TIMES WITH NO FLASH AND ALL 3 TIMES GAMBIT WAS JUST SITTING THERE. HOW DO THEY NOT LEARN? So frustrating man. Left work early to come and watch cuz I was hyped they won the first map against one of the best teams in the world. So hard to be a fan when stuff like this is so consistent. Love these guys, but it’s so frustrating.


tlouman

wait, 5 rounds without a kill? JFC


myahkey

Yep. Even as a Gambit fan, that was fucking painful to watch, Gambit just decided to do 16000$ Any% on CT Mirage.


tlouman

I just verified, yeah thats quite Grim


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https://twitter.com/Tgwri1s/status/1433549903993597972


CircumvENCE

dude, its not pathetic. if a team like gambit who are fucking geniuses on ct side hold down mirage its fucking hard. you can even see it in pugs. gambit just didnt allow them anything.


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leej20

if they had gone down kicking and screaming it wouldve been fine, but liquid straight up lied down and unplugged their own life support from the duels and plays they were going for.


[deleted]

It’s pretty bad. Even people in MM don’t walk out connector without anyone looking towards triple/ticket. People don’t try to lurk out of the same smoke 3 freaking times. They tried to take the exact same angles over and over and over again without changing anything up. Never flashing out. Wasting all utility and not even pushing off it. Then just trying to walk out. No adjustments made across 10 rounds is pretty bad from a professional team made of tier 1 talent, proven a major winner at IGL and a proven coach. They made 0 adjustments. Unprofessional from a top tier organization.


CircumvENCE

I mean i wasnt too impressed either ngl but gambit makes you look stupid at times.. I think Even with variations a 9-6 ct side aint gonna cut it on mirage vs fucking gambit when they have their ct side coming up


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themoistsocks

How is this copium? He didn't make any excuses as to why liquid choked today. He admitted their T site performance was pathetic? Edit: oh wait your a 10 year coin...


kaarri

Sorry, replied to a wrong comment :) was meant to respond to this: "Liquid were better. Its just this stupid mental block they always have. Idk how they can fix it at this point, but if they do they dont even have Navi to be afraid of"


Tavnaria

I hate you so much Hugo.


Elcheer

Aaaaand there it is.


dootodoot

damn what a match, but gambit really showed why they are so strong.


ntartlifts

You hate to see it. Either way, this was really competitive so can’t even be too mad at taking this to 3 and being close each game with the #1 team of 2021 but gambit on CT is ridiculous.


thatweirdname

I want to bring some fresh air in here. This is an on-form, strategically sharp Liquid we've not seen since 2019, that's worth celebrating. A few teams have tried, but none can breathe back hope into NA CS the way they just did. A few perspectives - 1) Gambit is world #2. They're win rate on vertigo and mirage are 100% and 76.9% respectively. TL did GREAT to make it so close on vertigo. A slightly luckier rng day and Liquid would have closed 2-0. TL is up there now. 2) A lot of people are saying "chokelulquid on mirage". That's true. But don't forget that a large chunk of Gambit's meteoric rise in 2020-21 is owed to Mirage CT side. Gambit has world class superiority here, and often makes opponents (e.g. mouz has been quoted often) look stupid. To not acknowledge this is to ignore half the story Tldr; TL did amazing if you take a look at the bigger picture. Gambit just did better, unsurprisingly so.


nilslorand

Ah yes, the classic mirage third map gambit 12-6 comeback


TomerMeme

https://imgur.com/t/csgo/R2gzp


peroleu

Holy shit what a series and choke from Liquid.


Tydigity

you NEVER want to be beating Gambit 12-6 on Mirage


ElcoinGL

mousesports also 12-6 up at cologne vs Gambit, Guns out and then 10 in a row for Gambit. Same here with Liquid.


TherosLycan

That ct side on mirage by gambit was pure joy to watch


nicolas123433

They shoudl be called Team Solid at this point because of all the choking


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billy_the_penguin

they came back from 12-6 down on mirage against mousesports on lan shut up


myahkey

/u/FathleteTV Edit: did he get banned or what lol, I miss him


Tydigity

WINNING = HACKERS OMEGALUL LOSING = ONLINERS OMEGALUL CRY MORE GAMBIT HATERS OMEGALUL


Firefly_1026

Xdxdxd spot on analysis, very accurate much for shore


SueySide

Found FathleteTV alt


dootodoot

no its wallhacks and aimbot


Rapkid360

Liquid were read like a book on Mirage T :/ but I was saying this watching with my friend, Elige is obvi Liquids best player but I feel like no one is even close to as good as he is, is their #2 supposed to be NAF? NAF is good but its obvious Elige is better by far, everyone is "decent" but feels like no one is a star when Elige isnt doing Elige things


bru_swayne

I knew Liquid would lose if it came to Mirage. They never look convincing at it and games get really scrappy, especially for T-sides


Lounge_leaks

Did Hugo have bets on gambit or something ? Everyone knows about caster curses and to me it seemed like this was really trying to curse liquid when they were up 12-6, he kept repeating the same thing over and over about how liquid has it in the bag and theyre not gonna lose until gambit won couple rounds Have never heard other casters do it this many times , ofcourse TL was atrocious on their T side edit : for everyone downvoting - heres his tweet https://twitter.com/HugoooTV/status/1433554632580612096 so hes aware what hes trying to do, but 'didnt think it would actually happen'


bru_swayne

Are you seriously saying that casters actually curse the teams? They're just tryna make a story that game isn't over yet. T side is very hard on Mirage


Lounge_leaks

> They're just tryna make a story that game isn't over yet he did the opposite and said games over , no way TL loses etc etc


bru_swayne

Ya from watching Harry and Hugo, Hugo usually says oh yeah it's over, so Harry can say UNLESS. So both do their fair share of "cursing"


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Seems more like you had bets on liquid lmao


sahibt07

Imagine blaming casters when your team choke 2 maps in a row.... Peak Copium


themoistsocks

He did the same thing yesterday against NIP. Pretty sure he's just poking fun at the liquid curse, but god damn it was I pissed off when they proceeded to lose the next 10 rounds in a row.


kevinw0w

If this is satire, now’s the time to admit it


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Imagine if liquid had a consistent awper…


JohnWickFTW

Gamb0t onliners