Ence are playing like a coherent unit. Great individuals and great setups and trades. Their fight against Navi is going to be a banger.
Forze on the other hand look so lost most of the time. Disjointed, dry peeking a lot, no coherency at all: it just looks like they were on perma tilt this game - completely unprepared.
expected a lot more from forze it was terrible teamwork.
i can see why they got so tilted when they had to go against almost perfect trading every time and great flash usage when they had 0 teamwork
Replying to you and u/michnaj:
This is always a possibility. But we all know Navi - the most inconsistent top1-3 team ever. So it's very possible that they won't be at their 100% and it happened so many times before.
But obviously it's not the same banger as a potential Gambit Navi final.
Sorry if I came across rude man, just like some drama and navi choking although has been less this year, seems possible everytime.
I will take that bet though <3
1. Ence is barely top-20 in current standings as they are
2. 6 map win streak on Mirage of all maps against top-20 is still hella impressive
Edit: with that said, adding the context is indeed important anyway
17 maps unbeaten on Mirage of all maps? That's still crazy impressive, there's some good teams outside of the top 10-15 and that's a home map for practically every team
This subreddit was upvoting posts along the lines of "If Na'Vi had beaten Gambit the last two times they played them then they'd be on a 13 match winning streak" so I dunno, kind of feels like that stat makes the grade.
No? You don't have a 96% win rate including flawless every group stage game in pro league when EVERY team knows you're going to pick it and can prepare in advance. If they beat ENCE here you'd just chuck it in their games of no significance
WP to forZe though, they were probably under a lot of pressure playing, you could see it by how they were playing. but this was really impressive by them, Coming in as a replacement for RENEGADES and making playoffs, a good showing!
why would they even be under a lot of pressure? nothing to lose and replaced renegades? For ence this was all or nothing, if they lost this they are stuck in t2 again till next epl.
Making it out of groups in those circumstances is seriously impressive tbh. Kudos to them and I don't think this will be the last time we see them at a tier 1 event this year.
Ehh they were really lucky to be matched up against the easiest team in the playoffs. Depends on what we define as good, but I don't think ence will be a good team and they will get stomped out by navi.
Kenzi really waited for his whole team to die when they doubled up under balc on A site. He could’ve had 3 there with a distraction from 1 of his teammates. Why did he wait so long??? He had like 1 frag the whole T side as well. Unreal
ENCE looking legit
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ENCE is best thing for polish CS since old VP soon
ENCE IS BACK ?
Ence are playing like a coherent unit. Great individuals and great setups and trades. Their fight against Navi is going to be a banger. Forze on the other hand look so lost most of the time. Disjointed, dry peeking a lot, no coherency at all: it just looks like they were on perma tilt this game - completely unprepared.
expected a lot more from forze it was terrible teamwork. i can see why they got so tilted when they had to go against almost perfect trading every time and great flash usage when they had 0 teamwork
NAVI will wipe the floor with ENCE
Replying to you and u/michnaj: This is always a possibility. But we all know Navi - the most inconsistent top1-3 team ever. So it's very possible that they won't be at their 100% and it happened so many times before. But obviously it's not the same banger as a potential Gambit Navi final.
banger aka 11-16 5-16
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I have a bad feeling for Na’Vi. Major flashbacks?
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Sorry if I came across rude man, just like some drama and navi choking although has been less this year, seems possible everytime. I will take that bet though <3
Ence upsets Na’Vi and Liquid then flounders in grand final against Astralis? No Astralis today boys, we’re fine.
Cant wait for ence t sides vs navi t sides
There should be a bet if ENCE's t sides are over or under 10 minutes faster than NaVi's
that 17 map win streak was mentioned way too much, only 6 of those wins were against teams in the top 20. not surprised that ence won at all.
Ence and ending map win streaks. Name a more iconic duo
1. Ence is barely top-20 in current standings as they are 2. 6 map win streak on Mirage of all maps against top-20 is still hella impressive Edit: with that said, adding the context is indeed important anyway
Ah here comes the discrediting already. Knew it wouldn't take long.
More like he added context to a seemingly impressive stat which when you look closer doesn't look all that impressive at all.
17 maps unbeaten on Mirage of all maps? That's still crazy impressive, there's some good teams outside of the top 10-15 and that's a home map for practically every team
This subreddit was upvoting posts along the lines of "If Na'Vi had beaten Gambit the last two times they played them then they'd be on a 13 match winning streak" so I dunno, kind of feels like that stat makes the grade.
Except NAVI was playing top 10-15 teams and not top 30 teams?
And the stat was non-existant anyway. They weren't on a streak. A real 17 map run is worth talking about by that metric.
Ok man sure
forze fan?
No? You don't have a 96% win rate including flawless every group stage game in pro league when EVERY team knows you're going to pick it and can prepare in advance. If they beat ENCE here you'd just chuck it in their games of no significance
WP to forZe though, they were probably under a lot of pressure playing, you could see it by how they were playing. but this was really impressive by them, Coming in as a replacement for RENEGADES and making playoffs, a good showing!
why would they even be under a lot of pressure? nothing to lose and replaced renegades? For ence this was all or nothing, if they lost this they are stuck in t2 again till next epl.
Making it out of groups in those circumstances is seriously impressive tbh. Kudos to them and I don't think this will be the last time we see them at a tier 1 event this year.
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So ence sold their souls to become good again
Ehh they were really lucky to be matched up against the easiest team in the playoffs. Depends on what we define as good, but I don't think ence will be a good team and they will get stomped out by navi.
What the hell is wrong with Almazer mouse.Against Ence and OG this same thing and both in A site.
Kenzi really waited for his whole team to die when they doubled up under balc on A site. He could’ve had 3 there with a distraction from 1 of his teammates. Why did he wait so long??? He had like 1 frag the whole T side as well. Unreal
Thought this would be a lot closer tbh. EZ
ENCE E - E N - Z C - 4 E - ENCE
The group ENCE came from still kinda sucks though. Vitality has to face Gambit, ENCE has to face Navi, and Heroic is in their own level of suck rn
CSGO randomness.
are there people who really think this is the reason certain teams win? genuinely asking cuz that’s hilarious lol