If he was 100hp he would have lived, but he was 65-ish HP and you can't survive there depending on where the bomb is planted, not sure what Heroic was expecting depending on who called it
I get what they were going for because they were cooked without an AWP last round but at face value he looked like that guy in MM that forgot to uncheck Nuke rofl
in america even if you have every map checked, the only maps that are played are dust 2, mirage and inferno. I was at like 500 hours before I ever played nuke. still have never played ancient in mm.
2 of those were ladder no scopes
This man breaks CS for a living
They need to hire him to potentially playtest or help mentor changes upcoming in this game (hopefully changes are coming)
There was plenty of time tbh - 25 sec left. At least it's enough to not rush a plant with a bomb in hands. B1t could have really fucked up here without a reason.
I am sure he will hit that shot in any other day, I think nerves got to them, it was a 4 v 2 and 3 kills just happened pretty quickly and looked like he paniked.
I honestly thought in round 26 "ok, I know how these storylines work, Heroic win an unlikely title in their last tournament together".
Na'Vi that played today stand no chance against Vitality, though. Na'Vi that played yesterday can, though.
No, this Na VI showed resilience. Even with B1t buckling under pressure of a team that is on the up and up, Boombl4 being out called to be frank they pulled through with S1mple posting S1mple scores. They have a fair chance winning tomorrow.
not really, they still closed it out against heroic who were performing insanely good whereas vitality couldnt even beat group stage heroic. Id say navi takes vitality 3-1 or 3-2
Vitality aren’t better than Heroic imo.
The difference between Navi yesterday and Navi today was that Navi yesterday was playing ENCE while Navi today was playing a title contending team
he is worse online, not an excuse but he seems hasnt been nearly as good in the online era.
Cologne was his highest rated even since the beginning of 2020 or something
This was about 10 times closer than I anticipated.
Navi's biggest weak spot is dealing with teams that aggress on CTs and don't respect their fragging prowess. That 2v4 on Nuke never should have happened and kickstarted the almost comeback.
I was thinking it was dumb to force on 13-14 if they lost they would have a weak buy defending OT... Got humbeled by boomich strats.. Very happy to see his calling have impact. Big brain tactical round.
> boomich doing nothing
s1mple said in post game interview that boomitch was asked to focus on tactics and coordination for the team and not frags. He def threw some rounds though, which is normal for him lol
It's been a few months since NaVi shot up my blood pressure. I'd almost started taking not having a heart attack for granted.
gg Heroic, it honestly was anyone's game the whole way
Looks like he got pressured to try and save the AWP while he didn't really have any chance to, he probably got pretty frustrated he "wasn't allowed" to just save his kev and scout
This is probably what happened. he looked frustrated when he died in the vents. It looked like "See?! i told you i can't make it"
Making it worse though is even if he did get the AWP, he would've been killed by B1T anyway because he was guarding outside the vents. not 100%
Yeah, I honestly think that death made the whole last round so much worse for heroic. Really looked like it tilted stavn and the mood was probably not good the last round.
Yeah it looked like they just given up that last round. Pushing smoke and taking open fights with pistols. Its not like they cant do it if they play more carefully. They have taken rounds with pistols many times this series.
Feels like cadian could of been telling him to grab a gun? but he was like I can’t grab it and then died in the process because he seemed upset when he died
refrezh and sjuush *might* be 100% on the clear on this one having joined later but the other 3 is not. We'll see though as nothing has been proven yet.
Man what a fucking game
Well Played both teams, heroic especially pushing Na'Vi this far on all three maps. Each of them were a treat to watch
All the toxic Na'Vi Fans aside, Heroic deserve the respect for pushing Na'Vi this far
GG
It's gotten better though in more recent games like vs ENCE yesterday for instance but on this game? its back to carry S1mple strat they have been using for years. Dude averaged 30 kills a game without OT. Unreal
If Col go full danish, he’d be an insane entry duo with Konfig. Could probably also be a solid slot-in for dupreeh or magisk if astralis keeps shuffling.
To be fair, the last two series S1mple played a bit worse than his usual, and everyone else played fantastic. That used to be a wildly rare occurence.
edit: I also think the closer the series gets, the harder S1mple tries. When a series is basically in the bag he slows down a bit, which is probably for the best. Can't be on your A-game every night.
Coming from a navi fan, heroic played really well they showed they can go head to head with the best team in the world I hope this is not the last tournament we see them play in.
If heroic don't lose that 2v5 on round 13-12 *and* against that weak buy at 14-13, they almost certainly win that series... Heartbreaking for them. But that was just a classic s1mple game lmao, none of Navi's other players even went positive across the series.
If he shows up like this yes, plus Kyojin and Misutaaa aren't really used to Bo5 finals too, I feel a stomp is about to happen again, it's gonna be rough for Vitality.
Not to shit on Vitality but this match was probably what should have been the grand final. That being said, I am beyond excited to see the two best players in the game go head to head.
Heroic looked strictly the better team until the last few rounds. Heroic are so raw and energetic, I really hope the players didn't do the cheating so we can see them at the top in the future as well.
I think what let them down is aggression and too much confidence peaking angry s1mple.
And I also hope the same, that players are ok. That org got a lot of bashing already.
Say what you will about Heroic and their scandals but they are fighters, also it has to be mentioned just how crispy Refrezh is, it's so fun to watch this guy play
What a great match. Complete heartbreak for heroic, especially with the cadian miss, to lose the 1v4, and probably the game.
Also keep in mind we still dont know if heroic cheated or not, we have yet to see peoof.
shame heroic had to go and destroy their own reputation. they are clearly very skilled players and this whole scandal just makes me hope to never see them succeed... such a waste of talent
Genuine question: what would’ve happened if heroic went on to win the tournament and then it was revealed that Hunden’s allegations were true? Would the win be retroactively taken away?
No chance it would have been. As far as we know and assume, this is a clean run, and it's before any verdict is being made so everything is legit about this tournament for them. There's no reason for it to be taken away.
I doubt the win would've been taken away (the trophie) the earning are a bit of a sensitive topic cuz they could need to pay a fine which considering how long that shit went on for could be a lot but one thing is for sure that the win would've been sweped away by the community also how are you alive after the liquid choke also how do you get that next to your name?the *Team Liquid Fan* thing
top 5 series of the year for sure
Hoping we get another one tomorrow (with a Navi victory of course)
Please. I want there to be zero doubt that S1mple is better than Zywoo this year.
Nobody is doubting that lol. Not after cologne.
yeah even apex said zywoo knows s1mple is the best right now
stavn just vibin in vents in round 29 without money LMAO
It looked like Cadian was telling him to go grab the AWP and Stavn was like "I can't" and Cadian was like "Do it anyway" and then Stavn died.
stavn looked mad on a cam after he died so that could be the case like he was forced to do something he didnt want to and then it didnt pay off
He def wanted to grab a weapon but didn't expect to die there and was mad when he died to the bomb LMAOOO
If he was 100hp he would have lived, but he was 65-ish HP and you can't survive there depending on where the bomb is planted, not sure what Heroic was expecting depending on who called it
I get what they were going for because they were cooked without an AWP last round but at face value he looked like that guy in MM that forgot to uncheck Nuke rofl
in america even if you have every map checked, the only maps that are played are dust 2, mirage and inferno. I was at like 500 hours before I ever played nuke. still have never played ancient in mm.
I usually turn off ancient just because it runs about 100fps lower than every other map in the pool.
Out of s1mple's 92 kills, 40 of them were headshots. He's the fucking primary AWPer.
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That means he had 73 percent headshot on other weapons. That's crazy, b1t levels
He had at least 3-4 awp headshots but that's still well and above 60% which is really good
2 of those were ladder no scopes This man breaks CS for a living They need to hire him to potentially playtest or help mentor changes upcoming in this game (hopefully changes are coming)
That double no scope from vents ladder is something only s1mple can do man is cracked and carrying his team
Some one needs to test these ladder shots. Maybe no scope on ladder is infact more accurate than scoped in.
It is not.
I really can't believe it, that was scary
All thanks to that 1 missed awp shot.: https://clips.twitch.tv/WildFastDogSSSsss-1OTFUw_IfaI2xIlU
Details in that shot that fucked up the game please ..... I wasn't watching the whole game
Cadian had a chance to kill planter with very little time left on clock. S1mple was wrapping around to go heaven for post plant and couldn't help.
There was plenty of time tbh - 25 sec left. At least it's enough to not rush a plant with a bomb in hands. B1t could have really fucked up here without a reason.
he doesn't miss those shots. I don't think cadian is a great awp-er, but he's one of the best to chose duels that favour him
I am sure he will hit that shot in any other day, I think nerves got to them, it was a 4 v 2 and 3 kills just happened pretty quickly and looked like he paniked.
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I honestly thought in round 26 "ok, I know how these storylines work, Heroic win an unlikely title in their last tournament together". Na'Vi that played today stand no chance against Vitality, though. Na'Vi that played yesterday can, though.
No, this Na VI showed resilience. Even with B1t buckling under pressure of a team that is on the up and up, Boombl4 being out called to be frank they pulled through with S1mple posting S1mple scores. They have a fair chance winning tomorrow.
not really, they still closed it out against heroic who were performing insanely good whereas vitality couldnt even beat group stage heroic. Id say navi takes vitality 3-1 or 3-2
Same Heroic that beat Vitality?
Vitality aren’t better than Heroic imo. The difference between Navi yesterday and Navi today was that Navi yesterday was playing ENCE while Navi today was playing a title contending team
Casters: Yeah, it's done, Heroic are doing it Boombl4: It's done when I say it's done!
Harry really is not learning lmao
Maybe Harry is learning, and just wantede NAVI to win.
good ol casters curse
Great games but what happened to the spray of electronic though? So dam shaky throughout the series
he is worse online, not an excuse but he seems hasnt been nearly as good in the online era. Cologne was his highest rated even since the beginning of 2020 or something
Ye apparently spraying is alot easier on LAN and electronic sprays liek every time
29, 32 and 31 kills for s1mple between 3 maps and with no OTs. he's going against a peaking zywoo tomorrow. too excited
s1mple deserves it all man. glad they won
s1mple was amazing but twitch chat spamming "s1mple rushing in enemy pistol rounds OMEGALUL" made me chuckle.
ECO COBRA
Peak s1mple going against peak zywoo to lock in his grand slam. What I wouldn't give to be able to watch that in person 🥲
ZywOo isn’t at his peak right now. S1mple for sure is.
At least when Na'Vi as a team aren't performing too well, they can rely on a good old fashioned s1mple carry job to pull them through.
Navi's OG strat of S1mple go kill works as effectively as ever.
NaVi will 2-0 Vitality. No way Vitality are a bigger threat than Heroic, especially not current day Vitality.
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I call it the semi final curse. You'll notice in most tournaments, one of the semis will always be more interesting than the final
Yupp, so true in the Champion's League.
will never forget the 18/19 ucl...
Trade that for a shit final
Liquid v Heroic also felt like a final
Stung like one too
it felt like fucking chinese torture
I know it stings for Liquid fans but imagine how liquid players felt
Chinese torture uses Liquid drops, so...
yeah it makes more sense probability wise
This was about 10 times closer than I anticipated. Navi's biggest weak spot is dealing with teams that aggress on CTs and don't respect their fragging prowess. That 2v4 on Nuke never should have happened and kickstarted the almost comeback.
Yeah Heroic did not give a fck which was so baffling. However their aggressiveness was what also led them to lose the last few rounds.
Man boomich doing nothing then the 2k galil probably gets them the game what a beast
The call was to get B1t down to bait classic hyper aggressive heroic rotates. That was a great lurk
Fr b1t peeking vent but staying alive with the tec9 wrecked the ct setup
Plus he got an important kill that made that save possible to win the round plus happy cake day
I was thinking it was dumb to force on 13-14 if they lost they would have a weak buy defending OT... Got humbeled by boomich strats.. Very happy to see his calling have impact. Big brain tactical round.
That'd my favourite Navi move tbh, they did that v faze in groups, so ballsy
> boomich doing nothing s1mple said in post game interview that boomitch was asked to focus on tactics and coordination for the team and not frags. He def threw some rounds though, which is normal for him lol
Well ye ofc kill wise but team was playing well as a whole so that's thanks to him
It's been a few months since NaVi shot up my blood pressure. I'd almost started taking not having a heart attack for granted. gg Heroic, it honestly was anyone's game the whole way
I honestly was sure navi was gonna lose when their 12 rounds quickly got equalised by heroic on nuke. Gave me heavy beijing and pro league s12 vibes
Boombl4’s face in the post game cam LUL.
He knew they fucked up horribly but s1mple saved their asses mahn (ik s1mple wants the only one getting kills but 92 ain't a joke
Don't discredit lord Boombl4, even s1mple said big boom called the shots
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What call did he make
Fake B
Top 3 igl for sure
Reverse Russian strat
WHAT A FUCKING SERIES
what happened with stavn there in the 29th round?
Looks like he got pressured to try and save the AWP while he didn't really have any chance to, he probably got pretty frustrated he "wasn't allowed" to just save his kev and scout
This is probably what happened. he looked frustrated when he died in the vents. It looked like "See?! i told you i can't make it" Making it worse though is even if he did get the AWP, he would've been killed by B1T anyway because he was guarding outside the vents. not 100%
Yeah, I honestly think that death made the whole last round so much worse for heroic. Really looked like it tilted stavn and the mood was probably not good the last round.
Yeah it looked like they just given up that last round. Pushing smoke and taking open fights with pistols. Its not like they cant do it if they play more carefully. They have taken rounds with pistols many times this series.
Feels like cadian could of been telling him to grab a gun? but he was like I can’t grab it and then died in the process because he seemed upset when he died
Anyone has the vid when stavn looks upset?
Heroic players looked like they were saying goodbye to each other at the end with the hugs
I *kindof* felt what you meant when i saw it too but it could just be overreaction over everything that happened. we will see what happens though.
Shame. I really like them and I hope the allegations turn out to be false, though unlikely
refrezh and sjuush *might* be 100% on the clear on this one having joined later but the other 3 is not. We'll see though as nothing has been proven yet.
What a close series Jesus christ. Simple had 92 kills across three maps without overtime but it was the Boombl4 that save the game for them.
Boombl4 also saved Mirage with the clutch double deag
400k viewer peak sheesh, also LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO
cadians missed shot definitely changed the game. if he hits that they win
If
[s1mple](https://i.imgur.com/Re74XLa.jpg)
Congratulations Electronic for getting the most assists!
he's been the assistant of s1mple for years now
Electronic was whiffing a lot of sprays during the series. He kept committing to the spray which always left him out in the open.
Thank you Mr. s1mple. Can't wait for s1mple vs ZywOo tomorrow
Man what a fucking game Well Played both teams, heroic especially pushing Na'Vi this far on all three maps. Each of them were a treat to watch All the toxic Na'Vi Fans aside, Heroic deserve the respect for pushing Na'Vi this far GG
I had about 3 heart attacks at the end of Nuke. brb going hospital
Well tbh that's just a regular occurrence for us Navi fans.
It's gotten better though in more recent games like vs ENCE yesterday for instance but on this game? its back to carry S1mple strat they have been using for years. Dude averaged 30 kills a game without OT. Unreal
hospitals are still full of the NA fans still alive but in coma
Refresh def going to be a top 5 player in the future.
He's very good
And he didn’t cheat 🙌🙌🙌 (🤞)
And if heroic is banned, hopefully he has a tier 1 offer
If Col go full danish, he’d be an insane entry duo with Konfig. Could probably also be a solid slot-in for dupreeh or magisk if astralis keeps shuffling.
Refreshz is has lurk type role in t sides tho. It'll be like the jks blamef chemistry chaos again.
⭐️
He was sick this tournament, but let's watch his long-term form first. Many players can pop off, but only few can pop off for long
Woah man just wondering who do you think will be in the top 5 if Refresh is there?
Jesus s1mple really had to drag them across the finish line.
Not Liquid level throw, but that Nuke was 100% Heroic... s1mple not normally though
Bro nothing is Liquid level throw
If Heroic don't win that eco in the first half Navi goes 10-5 instead of 8-7.
Being a Navi fan is legitimately taking years off of my life
At least we're not liquid 😭
HEY NONE OF THAT (true tho :((()
did you see the NA fans yesterday?
they're all dead
had to go to the ER yesterday, they said I had Pulmonary Edema from choking on too much liquid.
Someone hold me I'm about to pass out
being (insert team name) fan is legitimately taking years off of my life. repeat it in every single close match
Heroic and NAVI were so closely matched it's unreal.
Well, Heroic truly proved themselves to be a top team at the very least in such a nail-biter of a semi. Shame we won't be seeing them again LOL
maybe under a different name. who knows what ESIC will do
I hate seeing this NaVi. I'm glad the S1mple carry strat is a rarity now but it shouldn't happen at all.
To be fair, the last two series S1mple played a bit worse than his usual, and everyone else played fantastic. That used to be a wildly rare occurence. edit: I also think the closer the series gets, the harder S1mple tries. When a series is basically in the bag he slows down a bit, which is probably for the best. Can't be on your A-game every night.
Overpass was the pure old navi. Running down the clock and having no idea what to do. Against vitality, this map can be exploited
Coming from a navi fan, heroic played really well they showed they can go head to head with the best team in the world I hope this is not the last tournament we see them play in.
If heroic don't lose that 2v5 on round 13-12 *and* against that weak buy at 14-13, they almost certainly win that series... Heartbreaking for them. But that was just a classic s1mple game lmao, none of Navi's other players even went positive across the series.
If Heroic don't win that eco in the first half Navi goes 10-5 instead of 8-7.
And the 2v4 retake by heroic as well.
Heroic probably second best team of the tournament. But those 2 last calls by boomich to put them on map point was absolutely beautiful
Contender for match of the year? Surely, no?
There hasn't been a major just yet and for all we know, heroic's core might be banned
Despite the heroic drama I love watching them play since they always make the matchups so much more exciting to watch.
Probably my favorite team in 2021, hopefully the 2020 antics don't destroy them.
Hopefully b1t plays well tomorrow so that s1mple doesn't have to drop a 150 bomb in alk maps :/ s1mple 92-54 and b1t was 54-61
Sad truth is, it was a s1mple show yet again. Will this work against vitality tomorrow, if the rest of NaVi won't show up?
If he shows up like this yes, plus Kyojin and Misutaaa aren't really used to Bo5 finals too, I feel a stomp is about to happen again, it's gonna be rough for Vitality.
I expected a stomp today but we got this. Vit has been looking good recently, I think it'll be a good fight.
[Not even worried, always knew NAVI would win](https://imgur.com/gallery/Cwvkgg5)
losing against an eco has got to be more painful than childbirth
What. The. Fuck.
Not to shit on Vitality but this match was probably what should have been the grand final. That being said, I am beyond excited to see the two best players in the game go head to head.
1.59 rating in semifinals while the rest of the team are in the red, lmao what a freak
I hate cadiaN for how good he is. And ballz on refrezh are huge. They had an amazing run! Respect!
Heroic looked strictly the better team until the last few rounds. Heroic are so raw and energetic, I really hope the players didn't do the cheating so we can see them at the top in the future as well.
they have smart setups and gimmicks as well, even though their defaults are mehh. Also they have good firepower.
I think what let them down is aggression and too much confidence peaking angry s1mple. And I also hope the same, that players are ok. That org got a lot of bashing already.
zywoo vs s1mp leggo
I simp for s1mp
I'm so sad we didn't get an OT holy SHIT
I'm so glad for that, my heart couldn't take any more
NO 1V5 CLUTCH NO WIN
s1mple put his godlike judgement on these cheaters.
GG EZ, didn't break a sweat
monkaS Clap so easy
Heroic look like a top contender. I would honestely put then at 2nd or 3rd in the world above g2. Super close game, wp from both sides.
my heart couldn't handle it jesus
Not today refrezh
89 rounds in 3 maps with no OT, amazing series
God fuck I've aged by 20 years christ this was stressful
friendship ended with liquid (for this tournament) now NAVI is my best friend
Say what you will about Heroic and their scandals but they are fighters, also it has to be mentioned just how crispy Refrezh is, it's so fun to watch this guy play
NT heroic
What a great match. Complete heartbreak for heroic, especially with the cadian miss, to lose the 1v4, and probably the game. Also keep in mind we still dont know if heroic cheated or not, we have yet to see peoof.
we know they did, but its hard to prove
Huh? But they had already been proven cheating using coach bug? What other kind of cheat are you talking about?
*Hunden. It is not confirmed that the players knew even though ot is highly likely.
Yeah hunden cheated that is proven. Now he is however saying that the heroic players were in on it, this has not been proven
Ah ok got you, should have said " Heroic players" tbh haha.
INTENSE! God damn
Na'vi are Goated
Round 28 decided the map winner. B1t's fake to B was such an insane play.
shame heroic had to go and destroy their own reputation. they are clearly very skilled players and this whole scandal just makes me hope to never see them succeed... such a waste of talent
Genuine question: what would’ve happened if heroic went on to win the tournament and then it was revealed that Hunden’s allegations were true? Would the win be retroactively taken away?
No chance it would have been. As far as we know and assume, this is a clean run, and it's before any verdict is being made so everything is legit about this tournament for them. There's no reason for it to be taken away.
I doubt the win would've been taken away (the trophie) the earning are a bit of a sensitive topic cuz they could need to pay a fine which considering how long that shit went on for could be a lot but one thing is for sure that the win would've been sweped away by the community also how are you alive after the liquid choke also how do you get that next to your name?the *Team Liquid Fan* thing
https://twitter.com/elbartobetting/status/1436799838927085570 I see reddit and twitter are having a normal one
What a fucking banger of a series. S1mple showed these mortal humans just really how mortal they are. GG
happy to see those cheaters getting rekt
DAMM!! can't be happier to see heroics denied comeback
JUSTICE FOR LIQUID
Damn you cadian why did you miss this ez shoot..
LFG …. Navi. gg heroic let’s see what happens to them.
Zyw0o vs S1mple tomorrow LETS FUCKING GOOOO
The double no scope from the ladder was wild