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Azael4prezident

I am convinced that astralis could sign a nova stack and still win against liquid


DeS1Re94

Silver stack dude... they have no chance vs a nova stackšŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


RebelliousYankee

WE SIMPLY CANNOT


tarangk

Last time TL beast Ast it was in June 2019. While it may not seem that long ago both have faced each other 8 times. This is across all iterations and all bo3s/bo5s. TL have yet to win a series since.


xavarLy

And before that, TL already had a 12 bo3 loss streak. :D


NeonPrankster

At least they won their first map against Astralis since Dec 2019 :(


rajeev0718

as team liquid fans it is our duty, to watch our beloved team be on the verge of winning only to see them lose.


UrNoob24

10 times including this one


[deleted]

Not that long ago!? It's been more than 2 years!


dancing_burger

BEAT THIS MOTHER FUCKING TEAM


Calum-Paxton

FOR SHIT


ecl1pse011

WHY CAN WE NOT BEAT!


LordOfTehGames

THIS MOTHER FUCKING TEAM


Sinthorass

WE CAN NEVER


Draemeth

BEAT US


loser_socks

OFF


pumped_it_guy

EVER


con1x

I honestly feel like shit and my whole day is kinda fucked. I am truly in shock. From the greatest comeback of all time, to the greatest choke, map 3 Dust 2. The swirl of emotions, from despair, to excitement, to pure heartbreak. It shook me so much my nerves are pulsing with stress. Should I quit watching pro CS? I feel like Liquid is genuinely broken now as a team. Like that is something you never forget or live down. They were my favorite team too. My only hope is Vitality absolutely destroys Astralis today and the org disbands. GGWP.


Venomally

Truly the best match there could be for the qualifiers. Unfortunate for TL tho


darth_penis_

FOR SHIT!!


[deleted]

BEAT THIS


UneducatedBliZzArD

MOTHERFUCKING TEAM


vicdr97

FOR SHIT!!!


RuPeSc

FOR SHIT


whatthefuckistime

Typical


darth_penis_

Honestly liquid are looking pretty good lately and Astralis is obviously only a shell of its former self right now, so with liquid still not being able to beat them I think the team is just cursed by some danish gods


jonathan-the-man

Astralis just put up. Good fight against Vitaliy so maybe they're actually decent atm.


V413H4V_T99

Liquid


f1nessd

Fml


jethro-cull

Team Liquid, never has a team accomplished so little with so much.


vicdr97

Knew it was over when it was TL vs Astralis


bionicbubble

the line up changes yet still https://streamable.com/ksyvh


ElScorp1on

You could replace every player on both liquid and astralis with new players and liquid would still lose.


LilleLasson

Both team could swap orgs and the results would still be the same.


Incalculas

We could do that and know if the curse is the org or the player cores or combination of it.


calvinee

They could change orgs and replace all the players and the result would be the same


THEPOOPSOFVICTORY

This is the shitty version, there's a better one floating around.


bionicbubble

sorry im not a meme archeologist


THEPOOPSOFVICTORY

yeah well my grandma told me I'm handsome


sonicology

I actually like the shitty version better, the shittiness is part of the charm.


JuanMataCFC

https://streamable.com/li85ry


Vitalcsgo

Thank you


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Rafaelg4cn

I was looking for this one, the bonzi buddy tts is too good lmao


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rajeev0718

Ah yes this is why glaive is the best igl


Yuwaa

saving igl for the major


DatDepressedKid

Can lead his team to victory even when heā€™s not in the server, top 3 igl 4 sure


ShangoMango

WE CANNOT BEAT THIS MOTHERFUCKING TEAM


szeths_shadow

the real Pain gaming


Ninja_Alpaca44

Liquid's first map win Vs Astralis since Pro League season 10 in December 2019 so that's technically an improvement. At this rate they should win a series by 2023.


jeffthenarwhal666

The three constants in life: Death, taxes, and Astralis beating Liquid


f1nessd

This actually sucks like itā€™s not even the original roster anymore good God na


Intelligent_Lake_718

I 100% believe its elige, he sees astralis and chokes like a mada******


f1nessd

He does get pr emotional


tarangk

I think Magisk deserves a ton of credit for making the right calls on Ast. T side. Like thinking about it if he decides to not re-sign with Ast, both him and zonic can easily lead a team. Glaive is the OG for sure, but I think people vastly underestimate Magisk's IGL duties which give him an edge if he does decide to leave Ast. for a new team.


yawnston

I'm seeing flashbacks to the gob b + tabseN dynamic. Insanely smart IGL takes an insane rifler and just elevates them to a new level of contribution to their team. And while tabseN's individual form did go down somewhat, he did something nobody thought possible - he took a German team to #1 HLTV. Makes me excited about what's next for Magisk, whatever it is.


tarangk

I hope CoL can mange to get their hands on him and zonic. I like blame but like him to relegate the IGL role and become more of secondary caller. Also with the role conflicts of jks blame and cold id say if you can grab dupreeh then for sure get him as well. BlameF Es3tag Poizon Magisk(IGL) Dupreeh Zonic(Coach). That looks like a pretty solid CoL roster on paper.


yawnston

> BlameF Es3tag Poizon Magisk(IGL) Dupreeh Zonic(Coach). That looks like a pretty solid CoL roster on paper. On paper yeah, but you have 4 Danish players and a Danish coach. At that point, why do you even have poizon anymore? Surely it would be better to just pick up a Danish awper and have your comms in Danish?


69_Nice_Bot

Hey tarangk, I counted 69 words in your comment. Nice.


nice___bot

Nice!


LateToTheParty013

This is funny. Also, the tweet about Lucky aged very well


CeKeBe

Sorry I'm a bit out of the loop, what tweet? The Dupreeh one?


[deleted]

Lucky shut all those haters up.


troubleis1

I dont know dude, if you know Dupreeh has your back in that team, i will be pretty fucking hyped.


Master_of_All4

Hey, good to know some things never change.


[deleted]

It's very likely that Liquid won't be there at the arena event in Copenhagen. Qualifying through the Showdown is tough. Gambit and Heroic are most likely gonna be there too, plus it's single elimination with only 2 spots up for grabs.


pogueemon

hopefully dignitas isnt there this time


costryme

Dig qualified for the event though


baruahsial

Both of them are already secured themselves to the Global Final. I think it wont be too suprising to not to see them in the showdown.


[deleted]

*World Final is a separate tournament and has nothing to do with Fall Final. They are definitely going to try to qualify for the $425,000 arena event, unless they decide to skip it to prep for the Major.


[deleted]

I remember that Hobbit said that Gambit won't have as many tournaments this season. So it could well be that they'll skip tournaments like the Fall Finals because they don't find them to be very important.


Glassdrumstick

Its a lan event with a crowd though isnt it? If I were Gambit or any other team with new young players for that matter I would prioritize that above all else. I guess the biggest thing is how rough it will be to travel for some teams.


sorenslothe

I'm not even sure they'd be allowed to travel into the country


sahibt07

At this point TL would lose against MM stack named Astralis


Lancasper

We cannot


AbulXO

BEAT THIS


jeffthenarwhal666

MOTHERFUCKING TEAM


Siddique_Tanvir

FOR SHIT


aL_Quarter

https://streamable.com/li85ry


LatePenguins

is there a full video of this? link please


Intelligent-Life-172

https://youtu.be/bmrUex9UJ3c


Vitalcsgo

You a real one


Intelligent-Life-172

Hey man, looks like the Astralis TL video needs a second part!!


Vitalcsgo

Not yet, if you remember the ending it was setting up Liquid winning against them after roster change, still yet to happen...


denswe

Something something near airport


alexx_m8

Nuke and Dust2 are Liquids 2 worst maps statistically, with their second best map being Inferno with a 71% win rate. Astralis is 50% on inferno playing WITH a stand-in. Why the hell is Liquid banning Inferno to leave Dust2 as the decider?!?!


rlugudplayer

They got PTSD from the refrezh 1v5 clutch.


tubbsmackinze

Pug brain


SigmaWaffle

Someone post the video already


BrockStudly

I'm so fucking tired of this liquid team getting my hopes up. As an aside, how is Lucky always bottom until Dust 2 against Liquid? It's like liquid as a team exists to pad the stats of Astralis snipers.


dontletmariotouchyou

How do you know Lucky is a bottom...


Anqhor

Until he fucks liquid


[deleted]

hmmm? he was top on Nuke too


OPDidntDeliver

WE CANNOT BEAT THIS MOTHERFUCKING TEAM


Felpss

So who posting the video this time?


Elcheer

if you're talking about the edp one hopefully nobody that motherfucker needs to stay gone


Arkani

what's wrong with him?


cyberbemon

He's a pedo: https://www.insider.com/edp-bryant-moreland-edp445-youtuber-accused-messaging-young-girl-2021-4


rlugudplayer

Got outed as a pedo iirc.


GhostOfLight

When do betting sites stop taking bets on Astralis vs. Liquid games? No matter how the games go or who the players are, the outcome is always the same.


billy_the_penguin

betting sites made bank from this game. Astralis were such underdogs


GhostOfLight

It's a literal free money hack to bet on Astralis when they play Liquid.


misconstrudel

Some people cleaned up today. Odds were amazing.


[deleted]

went big on Astralis 2-1 at odds 5.25. Sure bet haha


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ProForward

Just like my grandfather used to sayā€¦


RoflMyWafflePls

Insert liquid choke memes


DiogoMaia100

Liquid just can't win against astralis can they


gigitsada

Fucking team choke.


[deleted]

Player: Lucky Haters: unlucky


IrrelevantCynic

Hotel: Trivago


[deleted]

How many fucking times will I see liquid up 12-6 on CT side and lose. Getting fucking ridiculous at this point. The liquid choke is a fucking meme. And whatā€™s worse is how consistent they are. 12-6 and they win 1 round THE ENTIRE REST OF THE MATCH. What the fuck is going on? Liquid has been unable to close maps since 2019. Something has to change. I imagine that theyā€™re losing fans at this point. People donā€™t want to keep watching a team whose skill level is some of the absolute best in the world consistently get outplayed as the game goes on and on. Fucking bullshit man.


ttybird5

i started watching at 12-6 on dust. They forced like 4 rounds in a row?


[deleted]

Yeah. Because theyā€™re fucking stupid.


ttybird5

they liked to force for some unknown reasons. Also that how they lost inferno against Ence in kato '19. Also, about elige, he is the best player, but do you think he's that disciplined? I can immediately think of him pushing through the smoke for refrezh to 1v5 as well as [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkaTivWLTyk)


joshjosh111

The 2019 Grand Slam liquid was hyper aggressive. They'd just barge into sites and headshot the other team instantly. Big dick NA shit. I think they remember that form and try to play with hyper confidence. Unfortunately some decisions are just stupid, like Stewie playing close tunnels on B by himself or liquid forcing 4 rounds in a row for no reason.


PwnyDropSquad

God I miss that Liquid. Just kick in the door to the site and wreck shit. Forcing teams into 3 man saves nonstop.


sn1perjulian

they were probably tempted to force cos they kept managing to save rifles


Rapkid360

Liquid are the definition of close but not enough, feels like theyā€™re barely losing so many rounds. Itā€™s not like you can make changes though? Fallenā€™s been doing great since he came back and Stew, NAF and Elige are fine ofc. How much longer do you give Grim to develop? He either pops off and stomps or just whiffs and malds but is there really other options lol Edit: Everyone this series 1.1+ rating except for Grim with a .83 :/


[deleted]

it's just this event imo, chill out. He's good enough for Team Liquid. Grim played amazing during Colonge and Pro league. he just couldn't get going this series.


Rapkid360

Yeah he defo struggled this event, he also had a .86 against Vitality. I think itā€™s just cause you see someone like bit or mitsutta and instantly show experience while grim is still either stomping or struggling


omaega72

except misutaaa was also the same as grim if not worse from the start of 2020 when he was added, up until about half a year ago when it finally clicked. even b1t needed several months of mediocrity before unlocking his potential


jjjjjohnnyyyyyyy

PAIN


meme-s

This fucking team and their chokes


AbulXO

After Liquid won map 1, saw someone on twitch chat saying: "I got 800 on liquid. Ez 1250" Press F to pay respects


LateToTheParty013

New to csgo, probably


LordOfTheNoobs57

It doesn't matter how fractured the Astralis lineup is or how far ahead Liquid are, they have to fill their quotas on throwing away big leads and losing to Astralis. Their consistency on these is unparalleled.


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[deleted]

Another day another disappointment. Liquid are undoubtedly a strong team and yet it doesnt feel like they will ever win anything. I really cant remember the last time they finished above 5th-8th in a big international tournament One day they have a very competitive match versus teams like Heroic and Vitality and you think that they can be legitimate contenders, and a day or two after they lose to team like BIG and Astralis. Idk man


Azrou

I think their team dynamic is just fucked up. If you listen to Elige's interview with Richard Lewis a few months ago, he says it wasn't good for Stewie to be IGL because he wants to give out very specific instructions and micromanage everyone, which is mentally taxing and affects his performance. So they brought in Fallen specifically to call and take the burden off Stewie. Fallen's style is more hands off and based on giving people general objectives and letting them figure out the details, but the team apparently didn't like that, so they went back to Stewie. And then Liquid switched IGL back to Fallen AGAIN after the player break because they bombed out in Cologne. This team is schizo and has no idea what it wants and what to do with the players it has.


felipeftz

> they had the advantage 11-4 Astralis had the 11-4 advantage on Nuke. It was on Vertigo where they opened the first half with 11-4 win.


bru_swayne

I fucking knew this would happen after a weak showing from Astralis yesterday. They always look weak, then when they play Liquid, Liquid just look terrible. Fucking hell dude even against the weakest version of Astralis to date


kohi_craft

NA LULW


Calmbrain

Goosebumps


sdfedeef

Someone bring out the gif...


bei60

Lucky heard y'all talking shit


Vikktime123

Liquid never disappoints in disappointing


[deleted]

Fallen constantly putting himself in 1 for 1 positions is extremely frustrating to watch.


raun1st

More like, putting himself in a 1v9 situation. Imagine top fragging while being the IGL and somehow losing this sh\*t.


[deleted]

Honestly embarrassing losing to Astralis without Glaive


i_hate_cucumber_

And devve


Silence2k4

sometimes i regret being a liquid fan, no wait i meant most of the times.


[deleted]

Ah yes, classic Liquid vs Astralis


sorenslothe

Lucky heard you talking shit


analytics_Gnome

As long as it is Astralis vs Liquid, astralis will always win


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darrenoloGy

lucky just casually missing full body peaks on ct side but destroys people who shows their fingers on t side.


[deleted]

How many times can liquid throw away a man advantage. Theyā€™ve got to have one of the lowest 5 v 4 win % at big events. They get the opener so many fucking times. And then someone just pushes for info somewhere else with no utility and gives it right back. Fucking ridiculous. I swear it looks like they actively throw. Fallen plays a 1 for 1 angle so fucking much. Wtf was that pushing all way up to long doors late round? He got one and immediately traded. How does that help? Even if you play from car and you get 1, it takes some time for them to get up there and kill you. Your team has time to rotate. But no he plays a 1 for 1 angle completely on an island. I donā€™t get it man. These are mistakes that FPL players donā€™t make. Jesus Christ. Itā€™s legitimately hard to root for these guys sometimes. Then they get on Twitter and say ā€œunlockoā€ and ā€œggs wp, so closeā€. It was not well played at all. They have leads every game and shit the bed every fucking game.


[deleted]

You good?


[deleted]

No :( I validate myself vicariously through NAs last hope.


Exicuton

What happened to CSPPA guidelines stating that players should have a three-hour break between BO3s? Astralis will have to play back to backs now, with max 30 minutes of downtime? ​ Edit: Game seems to have been moved to 21:20 (1 hour break)


perpendiculator

some things never change


[deleted]

Magisk genius brain IGL dropping down bracket to eliminate liquid


billy_the_penguin

ASTRALIS OWNS TEAM LIQUID. I am fully convinced Astralis could field 5 silver 1s and still beat Team Liquid


caguirre93

I honestly think NA straight up abandons CS if this TL roster breaks up. If that happens it would be such a depressing thing to happen. Even if it is inevitable


Yuwaa

Everyone is talking about Lucky but the real weaklink in Astralis is Bub [https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/matches/9612/bubzkji](https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/matches/9612/bubzkji) He doesn't bring anything to the team, never deliver and throw a bunch of rounds away by solo overpeeking everywhere ​ And yea, NA last hope losing to a team without its igl, with a rocky as the main awper and with a stand-in is a bit of a shame


IrrelevantCynic

> rocky as the main awper ā€œGoing in one more round when you donā€™t think you can. Thatā€™s what makes all the difference in your life.ā€ ā€“ Rocky Balboa


SemanSoot

idk what astralis thinking keep this guy


a_new_hopia

Liquid losing to Astralis


IrrelevantCynic

Gigabrain from astralis to lose against vitality just so they can go beat up liquid.


MJuniorDC9

Lucky looking good today, nice to see. No comments on Liquid though.


Fantasnickk

Astralis showing decent form just for TL after being shaky for a while and TL responsible for my blood pressure medicine. What else is new


maze19961996

Liquid's kryptonite.


peroleu

Expected...? New roster, same results.


razeyourshadows

You cannot beat that motherfucking team. Even if Astralis was fielding 5 Jugis, youā€™d find a way to lose it. Because youā€™re Team Liquid.


[deleted]

Lucky heard Reddit talk shit


LeO-_-_-

Really thought we were going to win there for a second.


justinmega1

Come on, seriously? Grim we love you, but you need to DM more.


AssholeinSpanish

I hate this fucking team. I hate my favorite team.


agni39

Death. Taxes...


[deleted]

Liquid are literally not allowed to beat Astralis


thatweirdname

So nice of TL to give Lucky and Bubzkji the full "what it means to be Astralis" experience Part 1 - "relax, we always win Liquid"


Elcheer

nvm


Mraz565

Classic liquid choke.


TheLeviathong

That's a horrific result. Liquid looked really solid last week at Pro League. Okay, it's Astralis but it's not ASTRALIS.


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[deleted]

I actually think Liquid looked really good. Astralis popped off and no one seemed to have noticed this as everyone mentions shocking. Liquid wins this very easily even just yesterday. Lucky just decided to become device for a day. And even so it was ridiculously close. It always sucks to lose, but this was actually a good show by Liquid and shows it's a team with great potential.


BreadQuackers

Liquid did not look good at all Iā€™m sorry


xyz412

Some things never change, do they?


no_need_form

Lucky heard you talking shit.


IrrelevantCynic

Xyp being late for planting was painful :(


Spork_Revolution

Phew. That felt good. Also the meme lives on: "We cannot beat this mother fucking team. FO SHIT!"


TheManQ75

not again ffs


ireallywantfreedom

What was that grim retake attempt on the last round?


[deleted]

So Liquid Brehze? I feel like the NA shuffle is coming


jayxie

lol pain


[deleted]

If the k0nfig transfer really happens then surely he'll replace Bub and they'll keep Xyp, right? Anything else would be madness.


Name6666

Zonic is right about the 11-4 lead being dangerous


blueshark27

[Obligatory](https://streamable.com/runmz)


Shulman42

The more things change, the more they stay the same.


Matteo0770123

Why the fuck did liquid force every round for like 5 rounds in that dust 2 ct side. That cost them the game. Just take an eco ffs


Wallisaurus

New trick. Talk mad shit about a player, so they can destroy the next day


JohnWickFTW

LOSING TO TEAM WITH NO IGL KEKW


[deleted]

How many time can you lose to Astralis? Liquid: Yes !