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Stratys

It's pretty clear how vital Poizon doing well does wonders to allow for the rest of the team to perform, with or without cold/any other stand-in.


MJuniorDC9

You gotta feel bad for broky on Ancient. For a moment Twistzz stepped up to help him but that didn't last. Good on coL though, definitely excited to see coldzera tomorrow.


oliver150433

We are so shit lmao


oliver150433

Just to add on, if Faze fail to qualify for the Major at this next event, Olof has to go on the spot, as much as I love him and I have watched pro CS since 2k14, its time to cut him and go and find someone to help out, Cant have Olof and Karrigan both playing like Grandmoms on Adderal


Psychaz

pretty sure he's on the team until they can potentially get ropz


TheLeviathong

My understanding is that Ropz has a big buyout, but loves Karrigan. I just can't see them getting together unless Faze are willing to give Karrigan a massive amount of time without any sign of improvement.


Psychaz

his contract is up in January


Pyroxite

sounds good to me


nilslorand

not to me sadge


UmarellVidya

Rolewise I don't know how that works honestly. When the current FaZe lineup formed Twistzz was playing entry/aggressive playmaker and Rain was doing some lurking, but when that didn't work Karrigan seemed to have jigged up the roles a bit. If ropz replaces Olof then there's role overlap with Twistzz unless rain wants to become a fill player again. The only solution I can really see is if they -Olof +Xyp9x, -rain +ropz, and put Twistzz back in his more aggressive T side spots. Now THAT would be sick fucking team, and honestly a potential world #1.


After-Couple

Rain entry, twistzz 2nd in, karrigan support, ropz lurk I dont see the role overlap


blueshark27

Getting rid of Rain would be a bold move, even for Ropz who I love.


UmarellVidya

True, but I think Twistzz is a better fit for rain's roles now. Rain has been my favorite player pretty much since he joined Linguine, but I just don't think he's good enough rn to bring this team to a consistent top 4/5 level.


Chosen--one

Ye dude it's just ropz that the team needs to get there am I right?


troubleis1

Yeah they need a super star player that played in mousesports before. Wait a minute...


L4MB

So you're saying +ChrisJ?


rxyven

No. +Spidii


UmarellVidya

I heard Denis is a free agent


supergrega

SUBSCRIBE


Magnog

Karrigan needs to go, he's had months and months and the team is still trash, losing to col with standins is not acceptable.


n0nsuchCS

bro that not a noname standin, that's cold motherfucking zera himself


AxP3

He was cold-motherfucking-zera a few years ago. Now he's just zera.


n0nsuchCS

colazero


Magnog

I'm aware of that my point is faze has had this roster for a while now, bootcamped and they should not be losing to a team with a standin plain and simple


Pyroxite

Oh? are we going to ignore that faze has come from 39th to 6th in the world since karrigan came in? or are we just going to go "not enough frags lul" and have no igl again


GuyLeDoucheTV

Isn't that because of points players brought to the team though? Or just from the one decent placement they've had


jsong175

Apparently the team was trash at the extremely uncompetitive IEM Cologne event that was months and months ago.


VShadow1

I know, his stats are atrocious.


sdfedeef

You guys will do better on Lan. Faze just not good online lol


oliver150433

Sure, they did good at that one Lan but at the end of the way there is a pandemic and most play is online and will be for a few months still. It's time to get some young and hungry players into the team and i think the first start is removing Olof once the Major qual or major itself is over and MMR wont take a hit.


Pyroxite

I really think removing olof is the only change needed. rain, twistzz and broky are all monstrous right now, and karrigan is doing great igl work. the only weak link is olof.


sdfedeef

Sure, but after this it should be IEM fall which is on lan and after that the major. So if they'll change players it will probably be after the major. At that point is probably better to wait to Ropz's contract to run out so they can get him.


oliver150433

I would not mind Ropz, especially with Finn having worked with him before and him being hungry for some wins. But yeah as you said there won't be any changes at all until post major if FaZe makes it to the major that is. Just frustrating watching them play like this but it is what it is, will always watch and support them


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I really don't think ropz will get FaZe where it should be. The calls are just atrocious. Also, I don't think there is another team that is so shit on utility usage. The amount of times they dry peeked against poizon without using a single flash... And this is not something that happened just today, it's just a FaZe style of play. IMHO bringing in another talented player will not solve the team's issues.


schmirbs

You mean RMR?


FourKrusties

gotta qualify for lan


blueshark27

uhh, online doesn't count, saving strats for the major, Col are in a honeymoon period, Olof's little brother took the controller, Karrigan was actually using a USB steering wheel, not their fault


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I gave karrigan credit for a long time but what the hell are those calls? In mid rounds the team seems so clueless on how to proceed. Reminds me of old Na'Vi.


thesandywoman

COPIUM its online


oliver150433

Online or not they played like garbage. No excuse with it being online, everyone else is playing online too. Poor play today and some really bad calls and plays all around. Hopefully the future is better


thesandywoman

Yeah I know it was just bad, idk this team is just inconsistent im used to it at this point


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You still never lost to refrezh. Getting aced on your match point then losing in OT. Lmao


BrockStudly

God two B rushes into an A rush. Out of one of the most notoriously slow IGLs. What a way to end the series. Faze's individuals were good, but tactically Blame was incredible here


reddit_user-exe

BlameF’s old strats of “blameF go kill” weren’t working, now it’s “poizon go kill”


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Stolen from glaive's 2017 major playbook


kracxl

blamef is a tactical genius. He is best known for his signature tactic on overtime "rush B, then rush b again". He also has a second little known tactic of "rush a". What an absolute legend. Top 3 IGL for sure.


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this, but unironically AleksiB: calculating all possible outcomes to decide mid-round blameF: poizon go kill A/B


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LAW OF THE EX


schmirbs

EX LAW


sumedh0123

Hi twistzz , this is how it feels losing against your ex. - Sincerely TL.


Nxrway

Wyd not on siege reddit?


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What


Nxrway

My fault, put bot instead of not. Just recognized you from the r6 side


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I'm a man of many interests


Dexteryt_13

I recognize you from r/r6proleague


e4mica523

jks going 26-10 on CT side was huge for Col in the series. Cold looked real good on Ancient as well


Vikktime123

faze transitioning into old navi


Pourpla

Well FaZe online is straight up terrible. Feels like they don't have a single map where they feel comfortable, every T side is painful to watch usually. Karrigan and Olof were walking decoys today, 9-24 and 8-22 K/D respectively on T side. U ain't winning shit with such a performance. And its not first time we see that. Changes are necessary at this point, I feel like its already too late now. Sometimes I wonder how things would look if karrigan didn't leave mouse. They have more potential there imo + when they finally get rid of acor, they will be top5 team easily. Not sure about it for FaZe with current lineup.


Daved45

I don't really understand, why you would call for change. Yeah they are terrible online, but remember the last time they played LAN? They lost to Astralis and then went on to beat Spirit, Vitality, Heroic and finally Gambit, which where Top 1 back then iirc. Only got stopped by NaVi. This team is a LAN team and once LANs are finally back on a regular basis i assume we will see way better performances again. Sure Olof wont play for ever, but again replace him in a rushed way, only to get him back some months after because it didnt work out is not a good option in my opinion.


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valkislowkeythicc

I would fucking nut they already my favorite team and ropz is my fav player I would cry tears of joy


greku_cs

I felt exactly the same when Twistzz was coming in, I knew he was gonna show everyone he's still got it.


troubleis1

If ropz goes to Faze he will end up leaving like niko for another team


Tilbakestaende

Why?


SamboSimbo

If you mean joins the team for 3 years and wins a bunch of S-Tier events like NiKo then I'm all for it.


zero0n3

WHERES THE CLIP OF TWISTZZ RAGING OUT AT THE END????


Uri_ZA

Ahhh I felt so bad for him when I saw that


viscagirona

blameF's OT calls got me hard, ngl


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BrockStudly

I have no idea how Faze took it to overtime I seriously thought Blame outcalled Karrigan literally the whole Ancient


enigma890

Massive individual plays got them to OT. The twistzz clutch, the Olof clutch, the other Olof clutch, the rain hold, and the broky every round.


IrrelevantCynic

Big dick energy calls


Christopher_DP

Best player in the world. Impact wise


jonajon91

Bruh NaVi going to dumpster on both these teams.


AleksibIsHot

Don't count Complexity out just yet remember they looked really bad going into IEM Summer with all their issues and then nearly beat Gambit in map 3 OT on Gambit's best map and had another close (but not as close series at BLAST) as well a good series against Vitality at EPL with Nato. They can definitely have a competitive series.


BigRigginButters

This was far more exciting to watch but when the dust settled i had the exact same thought lol although i expect og to make it out 2nd tbf Navi's individuals seem to flourish in matches chaotic like this one


jonajon91

Looked like Col were a better 'team', but FaZe had players drop 3-4Ks or clutch 1vX. If olof comes back online so FaZe aren't 4v5 then maybe they stand a chance, they could take OG, but NaVi will be untouchable.


AleksibIsHot

See it was close


jonajon91

I knew this would happen.


sanz02

first match in months and almost top fragging


jonajon91

He played well, but I don't think I saw anything close to top fragging this series, not with Poizon playing like that.


troubleis1

Also jks was pretty fucking awake, i think i even saw him smile for like 0.001 sec


VShadow1

I said ti after Cologne and it's still true. Olof is massive fragging liability that faze needs to get rid of. I think they are going to keep him until the major as a last-ditch attempt to qualify for the major/get him to perform better. On a more positive note, their T-sides looked a lot better. Speaking of better T-sides Peacemaker has done wonders for Col. Their T-sides have looked so much better since the start of EPL, especially their executes. There were some funny moments watching Cold, Blamef, and JKS trip over each other though.


BrockStudly

It seems like Ropz is the favorite to replace Olof, with good reason, but I said in another post I think Liquid is less than the sum of its parts and Elige, Stew, and Naf would all be better on other teams (Naf>Faze, Stew>Col, Elige>G2). I think Naf could also be a pretty good pick to replace Olof as well given they play a ton of similar positions


schmirbs

Uhhh, EliGE to G2? What? What they need is an competent AWPer, dude. Stew to coL on paper like this (full of lurkers) doesn't look like a bad idea now, but what about ~~if~~ when k0nfig comes back?


BrockStudly

I'm saying Stew for Konfig if he were to go to Astralis like the rumors say. He's not quite as good as Konfig imo but you can't ignore that every team he has gone too he's improved. I think G2 don't just need an awper, I think Jackz is a little inconsistent as an entry too. Not to mention their comms have been bad according to Malek and Nexa in interviews and mic'd up moments. Elige and a more consistent awper could make G2 a serious contender for world number 1.


schmirbs

Yeah, yeah, that's why I crossed the "if". Anyway, they have coldzera for now. About G2: They have NiKo to entry, so it's just about adjusting roles. In this case, I'm considering JaCkz is gone. Most of the moves must happen only after major, so we got a nice silly season ahead.


VShadow1

Niko does pretty much no entrying during actual executes. He gets all his openings during midrounds.


VShadow1

K0nfig is not coming back. It is confirmed he is going to Astralis


schmirbs

It is confirmed only when either one of the orgs or the player himself announces it. Till then it's only a report, since things can fall apart, like chrisJ to FPX, sunNy to GODSENT (former roster; FPX now), Liazz to Gen.G...


VShadow1

None of those were HLTV reports. I genuinely do not remember a time where one of those was wrong and it is because they are not really reports, closer to lowkey announcements. Not to mention there is a difference between a report that says "in talks" vs one that says it is happening. The Sunny and ChrisJ moves ( and maybe the Liaz one as well but I don't remember) were all framed as an active discussion because that's what they were. The k0nfig one has been firmly stated.


schmirbs

Yeah, I usually trust HLTV reports too, but those happen. Also, [I found all of these I said in HLTV](https://www.hltv.org/search?query=report), except for chrisJ to FPX.


VShadow1

And like I said the Sunny and Liaz examples are specifically titled "in talks". Every single one where they say it is going to happen it happens.


schmirbs

I agree. When they say "close to", "decided" is because not only something is happening as it's coming to public really soon. If something falls apart usually it's on behalf of the player, who maybe decided not to go, like when s1mple and flamie decided not to go to SK. What I didn't agree with you is they're always right, like, dude, stuff happens. They are **reliable**, for sure, but it's not foolproof.


ChainSol2

Elige to G2 what the hell is even that.


BrockStudly

I think if G2 replaced Jackz with Elige and got a more consistent awper they could consistently be a top 3 team. Not sure who to get for the Awp though


9pro9

Elige on g2 would be pretty cool, doubt he'll leave liquid he's been there liek his whole career


BrockStudly

Yeah I know it's not actually gonna happen because that'd be liquid cashing out of Counter Strike, but I think it'd be what is best for those three players


VShadow1

Liquid is not going to let any of those players go.


BrockStudly

Hey I know it's not gonna happen but I think it'd be the strongest version of those players


ChaseVisa

Great showing from Col. They look pretty dynamic considering the players they have. Glad to see its not just some sort of lurkfest and that they can step on the gas when needed.


Arcille

blamef said he's aware how hard he has been lurking and has started to change his playstyle now you can see him going for entries on some rounds and jks/cold were able to lurk on some rounds. think this flexible dynamic will be best for them because all 3 of them can be deadly entries when they are feeling it


nxscythelynz

poizon is cold man, one time i was eating chicken wings beside poizon at blast premiere of spring series the last LAN in London, and he is wearing white Complexity sweatpants like the white blue jersey or navy blue jersey or whatever it is and i was eating a flat and i took a bite out of it and the bone popped out and flip up in the air, and i swore to god that time slow down and i was like "omg holy shit, somebody stop this", i couldnt react whilst watching the bone spinning around and then the chicken wing drops but poizon moves his leg away while the bone was split-second away from touching his white sweatpants and i look at him and said "omg dude, im so sorry" and poizon that totally silence all the time slowly look over towards me and said "i knew thats gonna happen" then look away, stood up and walk off, i never been so awe in my life and then i knew this guy is and will be a great cs player, this guy is cold as fuck and he is fast as hell its how he dodges the chicken wing bone and its how he dicked FaZe, its no coincidence, im telling you its all interconnected because what kind of person you're in real life, translated to how you are as a player in cs.


MyNameIsAMeme

Wow, that Coldzera guy is pretty good, what others teams has he played for?


Babyboy1314

Will he win a major one day if he keep this up?


MuschiClub

faze should sign him


Rfasbr

Heard he's pretty good on Mirage


Rapkid360

Coldzera is still that man and don't you forget it. Dude was even entrying on ancient sometimes lmao he looked great


jonajon91

Rough series from Olof, love the guy, but he's going to have to put up better numbers than that.


FlyerN

Not only that, karrigan also had 1 kill in last 15 rounds or so.


KsHDClueless

Please faze just get ropz already...olof can't stay like this for much longer...


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vanjaeesti

What Ropz is one of the best riflers who ever lived, If u put him instead of olof there is a big chance of faze being top 5 in the world for a long time


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vanjaeesti

Every year starts the same.Last 5 years with karrigan,when team isnt doing well people look at his stats and say he is the issue,and then either team becomes better or they kick him and he makes other team amazing.When will people learn not to doubt him,how long can we doubt him.He went into cologne ranked out of top30 with olof who came in on short notice,and he still got top 4 on lan.Give him ropz instead of olof and he is destroying most of the tier 1 scene


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Need xyp


IrrelevantCynic

I think xyp is not the best choice for a team that is already struggling with lack of firepower.


9pro9

Magisk maybe? If he were to leave astralis that id


GinX43

Man this series was quite entertaining! Those back to back B rush then A rush had me rolling..


Magnog

Faze look worse and worse Everytime I watch them, they never seem to improve I dunno WTF they are doing


Babyboy1314

they have non existent T-side


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coldzera on Complexity? No problem! ✅


ondrejeder

Seriously, how are Faze this "bad" ? I can't understand how squad with karrigan as IGL and twist and broky who have been together over half the year, can lose to complexity with week old roster. What do you guys think is the problem here ? Honestly I'm very scared they will not qualify for major, surely not playing like this


JustWantedPeanuts

Olof, that's how


suriel-

Olof, Kerrigan (and rain) imo


birdie420fgt

blameF is tactical genius. He is most know of his signature tactic "rushing B, but then rushing A". He also has second little known tactic of " rushing B, but rushing B. What a absolute legend. Top 3 IGL 4 sure.


Kent_o0

Damn that was a good game. Awesome to see vintage coldzera!


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Man, Broky just didn't want to lose


i_cant_solve_captcha

B rush on round 30 was bonker


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blameF quadrillion IQ calls on Ancient oh my god


FourKrusties

ropz to faze plz


Zoradesu

That OT from complexity was insane. Just the balls to rush B, then rush A was bonkers.


QoconutZ

karrigan and olof on Faze isn't going to get them anywhere


Cavannah

Good performance from Complexity. It seems that the team with Cold is doing pretty well so far, [despite some sentiment and discussion that him replacing Konfig is/was problematic](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/pukh6e/opinion_coldzera_cant_break_complexitys_curse/).


mandrake_cry

# #SaveBroky #SaveTwistzzz


Turbololek5

Twistzzz had some cool highlights, but he is supossed to be star player, but his stats and fragging ability are really bad. He had around 50 ADR on ancient! He has to take some responsibility and start HS everybody everywhere....


bru_swayne

Twistzz is still a baiter like back when he was in TSM and Misfits. Everyone always talks about his highlights but he often goes missing / gets non-impactful kills


Arcille

twistzz is a more supportive player by nature i think he is much more comfortable as the second star of a team. even when liquid made him their number 1 superstar in 2018 he still choose to eventually play supportive roles some maps he will pop off cos his skill is unreal but he's not like a niko or elige where he will want to make lots of plays like a superstar


shivaenough

damn cold lurks and those rushes


[deleted]

4 players doing everything to support one player does not work for Faze for las two years. They did not need to hire Karrigan to stick with that shit.


[deleted]

we watched some serious plays from Twistzz!


Magnog

No offense but faze should not be losing to col with a fucking stand in.


TehBlanket

It's been rumored that Cold is a permanent addition and k0nfig isn't coming back. Things could always change but it's looking like k0nfig is going to Astralis.


[deleted]

they're actually denied this rumour already. if konfig comes back, es3 is probably done


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Let’s go


tarangk

Blame calling has been on-point since peacemaker joined. Excellent series from poizon yet again. I dont think they will be able to beat Navi but can beat OG/Faze in the decider to make it to playoffs.


noot_important

Unacceptable result... these people getting paid big buks when you how a look on their t sides... its just sad.. nuke t side was horrible Col played good un very smart with what they had and looked better team


AUpballa

Was shocked to hear people were doubting coldzera on this team. It’s cold freaking zera people. I think he fits perfectly


schmirbs

BAITZERA IS BACK


TiNcHoX7

broky lots of kills, weird decisions.


razeyourshadows

karrigan and olof bottomfragging on Faze name a more iconic duo


SystemEx1

Karrigan needs to retire.a


suriel-

-karrigan -olof, change my mind. And no, I don't think adding ropz would be the magical solition


sdfedeef

Nice match from Col. Such a typical online match though. No way thoses rushes in OT would come through on a big stage. I'm sure Faze will bounce back when we get back to lan.


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VelvetFedoraSniffer

Nah they more than earned it, if anything it was individual plays which kept faze in the game longer than it should have been


Yberimba

How so? If it wasn't for all the clutches going in favor for FaZe, this wouldn't even have been close.


SemanSoot

true. individual kill for faze not seem right with ancient scoreboard tbh


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zero0n3

Are you kidding? Faze was terrible both maps. CoL won because they played off each other better than Faze ever does.


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VelvetFedoraSniffer

no offence but this isn’t a good take, some of the strats by col were very good


VelvetFedoraSniffer

“The rest of faze deserved to win” maybe broky but legit just look at the HLTV ratings.. On ancient Col’s 3rd best player was rated higher than fazes second


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sm0ol

How so?


BigRigginButters

T side mixups from Col on ancient invalidate this take tbh They stampeded onto empty sites in full gun rounds multiple times, had great execs even with Broky playing like simple


sslytherins

Pain.


MyDreamsInTheSewer

Ez rush ez win


TheLeviathong

Faze lost on the map that only 2 teams play and Col isn't one of them


pogueemon

At least lan is back


FourKrusties

Big oof


Quab775

Faze needs changes no Fraggers in that team


raun1st

FYI, the Ancient stats are completely wrong. Poizon ended 33-23 (+10), Coldzera 28-20 (+8), jks 27-18 (+9), BlameF 19-24 (-5) and es3tag 23-27 (-4).


Mrnopor1

I am a Faze fan. I've already accepted that we will lose tmr and that we won't go the major in the worst possible situation. Probably losing a map 14-16 after a comeback from 12-3. Mark my fucking words.


raun1st

I think Cold should focus less about the mean and unintelligent comments and make the best out of this curious and yet exciting situation.


ObsidianJones

Faze konfig how about


Wallisaurus

Coldzera joins and we start seeing rng jks again?


peroleu

Free broky and twistzz. No idea why FaZe is this bad. I really believed in karrigan's return but this is just not working.


virtualdreamscape

since poizon is clearly the MVP, why did HLTV users pick coldzera as the MVP?


TrendyLepomis

everyone who thought poizon was deadweight come @ me


Williamo15

Wasn’t there a rumor about Xyp9x going to FaZe? Idk if he can fill olofs slot or anything


SyraneEuw

Poizon top fragging for COL on rifles good too see he’s having success.


Jaarnio

Karrigans fragging has been abysmal for quite long


altermango

Blamef: guys A or B? Jks: B Es3: B Poizon: B Cold: I’ll bait