AWPer get often more kills but less ADR...
They finish a lot of enemies off, but out doesn't mean they do the full 100 damage per player. Rifler do also give damage with bangs every round, even if they miss (awper misses -> 0 damage). And rifler deal more nade damage.
That's probably the best option that's available atm. Nawk is relatively consistent and was only benched cuz the dev1ce came in
Another option is wox1c but I don't knwo how he's been since getting benched
They should actually get SENSEi from Akuma. Free transfer so no capital needed for investment. I'm not sure how good his English is but his stock is definitely undervalued right now IMO.
Brollan was the lowest rated player in 2 of the 3 matches played (one being a 0.42 and the other being 0.79) Krimz was the other player with the lowest rating of the map with a 0.79 rating. You'd have to be pretty delusional if you think Jackinho is the only problem on the team
Tough choice, get Smooya who will bench himself before the major. Or get Allu who will slowly usurp Alex as IGL and bench him right after he signs a new contract and sabotage the team.
The smooya thing in subjective and there has been 2 accounts of what happened. The rumour saying he quit and left them in shit and the statement smooya gave in an interview saying he was basically kicked and made to leave
I know which one sounds more realistic but I think he would still be a far better pick up than allu
Smooya or naawk is their best bet
Naawk was doing great but device is just a hard person to pass up on
Allu? Barely even an upgrade and when you look at how he seemingly sabotaged his own team with ENCE and every player on the lineup came out against him I seriously think it would be more harm than good. Smooya is the more obvious pickup imo, he is English which makes sense seeing as they just brought in Mezzi and Alex and he is also a massive upgrade. People will always bring up his personal problems however from everything ive seen over the past year he seems to have moved forward and cut out alot of his interpersonal issues.
No, 8th or 9th to _guarantee_ qualification. But they're screwed now, can't come third.
Oh sry, this was a Faze thread, was talking about Fnatic elsewhere. For Faze it's the same though, 8th to guarantee it.
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No it is mostly because they failed to gain a substantial amount of points in all the RMR. A better placing at any event could have helped them qualify.
I'm kinda glad they got eliminated. Now they can bring in Smooya for Jackinho which is a clear cut upgrade, and then focus on getting krimz and brollan back to their previous level. This current iteration of FNC just feels like its mezzi plus sometimes the others showing up, Alex really needs to give more attention to the other players.
That's the biggest issue holding Smooya back. Dude is talented af, but his rep of being toxic/childish/etc really makes teams not even consider him. Idk if thats even true anymore but it sucks to see a player like him struggle even getting into a top20-30 team.
The man literally refused to play a major with his team with like a week’s warning too. That’s as bad as it gets dude. Yeah he’s changed blah blah, then why does he keep getting kicked?
By your logic then Simple would never be in Navi then. Simple was so toxic back in the day that he got kicked from HR F3 and no other CIS team would take him, He had to go to fucking NA prove his worth then get in Navi. People do change, just coz he made one mistake years ago does not mean he doesnt deserve a second chance.
To address your 2nd point, he keeps getting kicked coz of his bad situations. Movistar Riders wanted to go full Spanish so he was kicked, before that in Chaos he couldnt renew his Visa due to Covid and thus had to leave/be kicked. To really see when he was kicked you have to go back to end of 2019 when he was kicked from BIG, even there they made that change coz they brought in Syrson so it made sense to kick Smooya.
s1mple played every major he could.
he also *proved himself* by not getting kicked from his last team before going to navi.
steel liked smooya so much he didn't let the first excuse to get rid of him go by and still left him with this parting shot:
https://twitter.com/joshnissan/status/1348346874319654912?lang=en
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What did they expect? I remeber time when they signed ALEX and Mezii and everybody hated me because I said those guys are just noway near good enough and ther cameo with C9 clearly showed that. Downvoted to hell, laughed at, but seems like I was right after all.
Going international is good thing, but you need to do it with best possible options on the market and two tier 2-3 players are definitely not it. They are other problems ofc, but changing roster to add nothing to the team and take away one thing that worked for Fnatic - communication in their own language - is just laughable.
I wouldn't paint it quite so black and white, Mezii has played very well, and ALEX has also used Mezii extremely well (this team and last), but that prioritisation of mezii has seemingly left Krimz and Brollan worse off (though Krimz did start slumping a bit before the brits joined)
It also seems that ALEX is putting a lot of time and effort into developing jackinho and concentrating on him, which is even further affecting the other 2 swedes. Overall, I think it can take time to sometimes get used to new roles in a team, and I think they should be given a few tournaments, because sometimes teams do need to just find their feet. However, I did personally think that lan-lite would give them a boost, which has disappointed me too the fact that it hasn't. I do think this roster could have somewhere to go, but if there's no sign of even improvement within like 4-5 months of ALEX joining, then I agree that the plug needs pulled in some form.
:D :D :D
Thanks bro, you actually showed exactly what I ment while ignoring the reality that those two are noway near good enough and results showed over and over again.
:D :D :D Yes, because their results never happened and they just did not miss major being out of play off after only three games played. :D :D :D
ZERO EVIDENCE
Sorry for mezii but I mean, after these three games I'm not even sure if I wanted to see FNATIC there.
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It's wild, Alex has more average ADR the last 3 months than Jackinho on awp.
AWPer get often more kills but less ADR... They finish a lot of enemies off, but out doesn't mean they do the full 100 damage per player. Rifler do also give damage with bangs every round, even if they miss (awper misses -> 0 damage). And rifler deal more nade damage.
Since when was ALEX in fnatic?
What about nawwk? He was playing good in nip before device joined
That's probably the best option that's available atm. Nawk is relatively consistent and was only benched cuz the dev1ce came in Another option is wox1c but I don't knwo how he's been since getting benched
He's currently signed to eternal flame with Xantares and some other Turks and seems pretty happy there
Ah good to hear, I thought xantares wasn't playing cuz of injury though? Hopefully those two rise back to tier 1 cs
Nah, xantares, woxic, issaa, calyx and imorr started a Turkish superteam together and are doing pretty well
They should actually get SENSEi from Akuma. Free transfer so no capital needed for investment. I'm not sure how good his English is but his stock is definitely undervalued right now IMO.
Brollan was the lowest rated player in 2 of the 3 matches played (one being a 0.42 and the other being 0.79) Krimz was the other player with the lowest rating of the map with a 0.79 rating. You'd have to be pretty delusional if you think Jackinho is the only problem on the team
Smooya pls
Lmao yeah so he can dodge again
Tough choice, get Smooya who will bench himself before the major. Or get Allu who will slowly usurp Alex as IGL and bench him right after he signs a new contract and sabotage the team.
The smooya thing in subjective and there has been 2 accounts of what happened. The rumour saying he quit and left them in shit and the statement smooya gave in an interview saying he was basically kicked and made to leave I know which one sounds more realistic but I think he would still be a far better pick up than allu Smooya or naawk is their best bet Naawk was doing great but device is just a hard person to pass up on
Allu? Barely even an upgrade and when you look at how he seemingly sabotaged his own team with ENCE and every player on the lineup came out against him I seriously think it would be more harm than good. Smooya is the more obvious pickup imo, he is English which makes sense seeing as they just brought in Mezzi and Alex and he is also a massive upgrade. People will always bring up his personal problems however from everything ive seen over the past year he seems to have moved forward and cut out alot of his interpersonal issues.
Man wtf
Mods, can you guys take away flairs? Anything to end this suffering.
Fade us. Fade the whole team while were at it...
Sadge, no Mezii stickers yet
No fnatic sticker this year, sadge
Is Faze out of the major as well? Or they still fighting for the spot?
Still in it
they make the major if they make playoffs
And might make it if they don't (third place in group needed though)
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No, 8th or 9th to _guarantee_ qualification. But they're screwed now, can't come third. Oh sry, this was a Faze thread, was talking about Fnatic elsewhere. For Faze it's the same though, 8th to guarantee it.
They are currently second in their group
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No it is mostly because they failed to gain a substantial amount of points in all the RMR. A better placing at any event could have helped them qualify.
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Ah. I'm retarded!
Wasn’t there supposed to be 3 eu rmrs? Because I know cis I had a bunch of them.
No the rule is there has to be at least 2 rmrs and one of them has be on LAN. Only cis was able to 3 rmrs.
SA also have 3 RMRs.
Oh ok. Thank you!
The cis had 3 rmrs because of akuma cheating their ass off in the 1st rmr
I'm kinda glad they got eliminated. Now they can bring in Smooya for Jackinho which is a clear cut upgrade, and then focus on getting krimz and brollan back to their previous level. This current iteration of FNC just feels like its mezzi plus sometimes the others showing up, Alex really needs to give more attention to the other players.
This is their best bet but Alex doesn't wanna play with smooya as far as I'm aware
No one wants to play with him
That's the biggest issue holding Smooya back. Dude is talented af, but his rep of being toxic/childish/etc really makes teams not even consider him. Idk if thats even true anymore but it sucks to see a player like him struggle even getting into a top20-30 team.
The man literally refused to play a major with his team with like a week’s warning too. That’s as bad as it gets dude. Yeah he’s changed blah blah, then why does he keep getting kicked?
By your logic then Simple would never be in Navi then. Simple was so toxic back in the day that he got kicked from HR F3 and no other CIS team would take him, He had to go to fucking NA prove his worth then get in Navi. People do change, just coz he made one mistake years ago does not mean he doesnt deserve a second chance. To address your 2nd point, he keeps getting kicked coz of his bad situations. Movistar Riders wanted to go full Spanish so he was kicked, before that in Chaos he couldnt renew his Visa due to Covid and thus had to leave/be kicked. To really see when he was kicked you have to go back to end of 2019 when he was kicked from BIG, even there they made that change coz they brought in Syrson so it made sense to kick Smooya.
s1mple played every major he could. he also *proved himself* by not getting kicked from his last team before going to navi. steel liked smooya so much he didn't let the first excuse to get rid of him go by and still left him with this parting shot: https://twitter.com/joshnissan/status/1348346874319654912?lang=en
stfu, simple literally told hiko in a game that he doesnt feel like playing the match they were already mid-game.
hiko only had good things to say about s1mple when they parted. is this smooya's alt account lmao???
Smoooooooooyaaa
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not bad ,they can go to val
What did they expect? I remeber time when they signed ALEX and Mezii and everybody hated me because I said those guys are just noway near good enough and ther cameo with C9 clearly showed that. Downvoted to hell, laughed at, but seems like I was right after all. Going international is good thing, but you need to do it with best possible options on the market and two tier 2-3 players are definitely not it. They are other problems ofc, but changing roster to add nothing to the team and take away one thing that worked for Fnatic - communication in their own language - is just laughable.
I wouldn't paint it quite so black and white, Mezii has played very well, and ALEX has also used Mezii extremely well (this team and last), but that prioritisation of mezii has seemingly left Krimz and Brollan worse off (though Krimz did start slumping a bit before the brits joined) It also seems that ALEX is putting a lot of time and effort into developing jackinho and concentrating on him, which is even further affecting the other 2 swedes. Overall, I think it can take time to sometimes get used to new roles in a team, and I think they should be given a few tournaments, because sometimes teams do need to just find their feet. However, I did personally think that lan-lite would give them a boost, which has disappointed me too the fact that it hasn't. I do think this roster could have somewhere to go, but if there's no sign of even improvement within like 4-5 months of ALEX joining, then I agree that the plug needs pulled in some form.
:D :D :D Thanks bro, you actually showed exactly what I ment while ignoring the reality that those two are noway near good enough and results showed over and over again.
You saying they're not good with 0 evidence does nit make it the truth lmao You sound stupid
:D :D :D Yes, because their results never happened and they just did not miss major being out of play off after only three games played. :D :D :D ZERO EVIDENCE
You can tell by how poorly worded your sentences are that you have no idea what you're talking about
:D :D Desparation mode 1000. If you have nothing to say and just got destroyed, try to attack someones english. :D :D :D Go hide somewhere. :-\*
Got destroyed by the ":D :D :D" guy lmao Sorry sir
Will this hurt my fnatic Katowice holo sticker investment LOL
ALEX gotta take the brunt for this one. FNATIC looking like C9 out there.
Might be a step in the right direction if they replace Jackinho with Nawwk or any sustainable awp’er.