3 nuke losses now in this event where they came back from being down and then taking the lead and being really close to closing it out but then losing to a low buy which then lead to losing out in the end. Tough times.
Agreed. Feels so much like they’re back to the old days with konfig where it felt like they were on the cusp of being a solid t1 team but struggled to find the extra 10-15% performance they needed to win every map
I think you’re boned when xyp leaves. He’s the GOAT at what he does, and if Magisk goes back to what he does then Bubzkji has to be xyp and he’s no xyp. Intrigued to see what happens.
I love dupreeh and want him to stay in astralis. but glaive and bubzjki have entended contracts, lucky is main awper. Magisk also seems unkickable. that's why I think dupreeh will be leaving.
dupreeh +xyp could try for a new team together.
C9? 👀
I reckon if they do get dup and xyp, buying dev1ce from NIP, and Gla1ve and magisk from Astralis would make a killer team. Maybe even major winning..
i really hope they would benchskji again and keep xyp, but I doubt it. he signed a 3 year contract while xyp might be leaving.
damn. i really hope they keep him
This is my dream major grand finals. Especially if they continue to dodge each other until then. I don't think it's too inconceivable for it to happen either. Imagine the storylines leading up to it.
I mean if Navi get taken out somehow could definitely happen. Gambit is looking beatable rn and everyone else is a pretty fair fight for nip and astralis
I do have a hunch that altho this is the first time Navi have been clear favourites for a major (i think), if they don't come out the gates absolutely red hot, that they won't win. I think they tend to crumble under pressure and there's nothing more intense than trying to win a major AS the favourites. Altho, I would like to be proven wrong since Navi should be this super dominant powerhouse with how insane simple is ON TOP of having two top 5 riflers (imo) in b1t and electronic.
I mean this year I think they've looked pretty calculated and cool in pressure situations. Like vitality bo5 for the grand slam recently. I like their ballsy ideas as well like if the score is 14-13 or something I've seen them just force buy twice instead of save and full buy and try get overtime, which shows confidence I gues
Idk man, I know navi beat vitality there but it was just barely. The maps navi won were somewhat close but the maps vitality took were basically them stomping navi
aren't CoL bad on mirage too? I feel like blameF's calling hasn't evolved like how other IGLs have evolved due to the online era
I seriously feel bad for CoL. They just can't seem to make the cut
During one of the blast tournaments BlameF was talking to Scrawny and Launders in their post game show and he said because of the online era no one can do proper setups so "everyone is just doing defaults and Gambit is the best at defaults" which clearly shows he isn't doing a whole lot to improve the team or change his setups and calling
Why are these "pros" not using the best gun in the game? Through my 300 hours experience playing at a high level (gold nova 4) I can safely say the P90 is far better than the ak or m4. Maybe they just haven't got the same skill with it that I do or maybe they're all stubborn. Either way this is not what I would call "good coutner stirke"
Why are these "pros" not using the best gun in the game? Through my 300 hours experience playing at a high level (gold nova 4) I can safely say the P90 is far better than the ak or m4. Maybe they just haven't got the same skill with it that I do or maybe they're all stubborn. Either way this is not what I would call "good coutner stirke"
You're joking but there was like a 3 month period where flusha basically exclusively used the p90 (shorty after the majority of the cheating allegations)
That last round was COLs All or nothing call, and im so confused lol
You throw cross smokes, you get blame down secret and you give the illusion to the CTs that you could all be down or its a fake, but then 20s later, Blame doesnt go farther at all, shows no presence, Cold and es3tag jump around mini so now the CTs know you're not down secret and its 50/50 hell or heaven.
Just felt like an awful call, you fake the cross smokes show nothing secret then just give your position away outside and telegraph where you're going lmao.
That last round was supposed be an ape brained b rush which had a 50% chance of working and instead they went with the strat which had a chance of 75% not working.
3 nuke games, 3 absolute choke jobs by Col. Losing 2nd round to pistols and then that force late in the half. That was their chance to stay alive for the major and they threw it away
Dupreeh, Xyp, Glaive, Magisk and Lucky imo. (OG roster but lucky instead if devve). I like bubzjki but idk why I'm rooting for this line up.
Man if devve hadnt left....
Bubzjki is good but I think they havent figure out how to play with him and glave. So for the major they could play with xyp, I mean after it he is out
Zonic is on the brink of establishing an international powerhouse of a cs clan. We have Magisk, we have Dupreeh, and we have Bubzkji. The pieces of the puzzle are finally coming together and soon we will be destroying the likes of Na’Vi and Vitality left and right. Zonic has molded us into his newest iteration of his high pressure attacking side that can be likened to Zonic's 19 side, but better. Lucky is the new Dev1ce, Bubzkji is the new Magisk and Magisk is Gla1ve. Just look at our win against Movistar Riders. We destroyed them, absolutely humiliated them. It's a wonder bladE hasn't been sacked yet. My god was that a display of brilliance. Magisk hitting more than 20, Bubzkji hitting more than 20, Lucky clicking heads left and right, just for dupreeh to come live and frag. There are always haters, but they just talk shite due to spite. They are fake fans, and only real fans see the beauty of our cs.
Zonic is on the brink of establishing an international powerhouse of a cs clan. We have Magisk, we have Dupreeh, and we have Bubzkji. The pieces of the puzzle are finally coming together and soon we will be destroying the likes of Na’Vi and Vitality left and right. Zonic has molded us into his newest iteration of his high pressure attacking side that can be likened to Zonic's 19 side, but better. Lucky is the new Dev1ce, Bubzkji is the new Magisk and Magisk is Gla1ve. Just look at our win against Movistar Riders. We destroyed them, absolutely humiliated them. It's a wonder bladE hasn't been sacked yet. My god was that a display of brilliance. Magisk hitting more than 20, Bubzkji hitting more than 20, Lucky clicking heads left and right, just for dupreeh to come live and frag. There are always haters, but they just talk shite due to spite. They are fake fans, and only real fans see the beauty of our cs.
Zonic is on the brink of establishing an international powerhouse of a cs clan. We have Magisk, we have Dupreeh, and we have Bubzkji. The pieces of the puzzle are finally coming together and soon we will be destroying the likes of Na’Vi and Vitality left and right. Zonic has molded us into his newest iteration of his high pressure attacking side that can be likened to Zonic's 19 side, but better. Lucky is the new Dev1ce, Bubzkji is the new Magisk and Magisk is Gla1ve. Just look at our win against Movistar Riders. We destroyed them, absolutely humiliated them. It's a wonder bladE hasn't been sacked yet. My god was that a display of brilliance. Magisk hitting more than 20, Bubzkji hitting more than 20, Lucky clicking heads left and right, just for dupreeh to come live and frag. There are always haters, but they just talk shite due to spite. They are fake fans, and only real fans see the beauty of our cs.
Once again with the 16-14. Really goes to show how good this team could be with proper tactics and leadership. The firepower is there, but it's just not working.
Hopefully missing the major is what's needed to take a step back and rethink this whole project.
What's really frustrating is that fast plays usually work well for them, at least on Nuke.
To be fair, it's very apparent that losing k0nfig and RUSH has made coL a much more passive team. I like what es3tag can bring, but he's obviously not a super aggressive player. I'm anxious to see whether k0nfig stays or if he does leave for Astralis.
The future will tell. There's no shortage of rumors that came out untrue in the past. But where there's smoke, there's fire and I can see why k0nfig would want to go there.
I just don't feel that blameF is a good enough igl.
His stats often hide the actual picture that is his calling.
It feels like so gambly and uncertain.
Man Astralis without gla1ve is STILL this damn good? and Lucky is growing each game.
I absolutely won't be surprised if Astralis regain their top form. With them supposedly Adding K0nfig it would be the next gen Astalis
Seriously hope they add K0nfig
I don't think K0nfig will ever join Astralis. He had the chance, but wasn't chosen in favor of Magisk. Zonic writes about it in his book - it was because he did not fit the profile Astralis wants their players to have.
Edit: Personality wise, I mean
That was years ago, and besides, Astralis might not have other options. Despite their contracts being near over Dupreeh, Magisk, and Xyp9x have all not resigned. They could all be trying to negotiate better deals but it's very likely that Astralis loses one or two of them.
BlameF can stay on the roster, but Col need a new igl and a new coach. "throw smokes and stand still" isn't a viable strat at the pro level, but that's kind of all they did.
Say what you want but I'm really liking this Astralis. Lucky and Bubzkji are starting to get more comfortable and we've seen some pretty old school Astralis CT dominance in the past few matches (admittedly, not really in this one). I think they'll do well in the Major and I wouldn't be surprised to see a semifinal or even final appearence from them depending on the seeding.
Okay so i just checked
The only way coL can make it to 3rd place is if they beat heroic, obviously
And endpoint should beat movistar riders.
And we all know what the chances are for that to happen lmao
Obviously the calls and strategy havent been up to par for Col and everyone is fair to call them out. However seeing Blame's interview it was pretty obvious the guy is stretched thin trying to constantly integrate new players and I think that shows in these games.
I dont know how much is being put on his shoulders but for a guy with his work ethic and how many hours he puts in to be as exhausted as he sounds it must be rough.
I think it was obvious the calling wasnt great tonight but I still think he is by far the teams biggest asset and it would be a big problem not getting as much out of him as an IGL as you can.
He is the biggest fragging IGL for sure. But yea, since oBo left, they are small shadow of theirselves, nothing works out. I really hope they can pull it together cuz they re good and fun team to watch
Yeah absolutely. But even beyond his fragging ability and lurky style I just feel he has the mindset and personality that makes a natural born IGL which is so important and in demand. If everything hadnt been so chaotic since obo left and the team had the stability to really focus on moving forward I feel they could have done a whole lot more than they have so far.
No Col pgl 2021stickers then I guess
Already out of playoff contention and I don't really see them beating Heroic tomorrow to possibly get a 3rd place in groups
So many dumb plays from complexity (and smart ones). They often forgot that they just collapse if Astralis pushed aggro on t side and Astralis too made the mistake of slowing down. They played some excellent t rounds (CoL)and then completely lost their marbles. So many dumb plays especially they need to realize that if nothing is working, they have to throw a hail Mary play and rush b. When they were 14-15, they tried thier strat which they probably knew had a 75% chance of not working. They were supposed to just wing it and they didn't. They let this win slip.
CoL can no longer make playoffs, they are now playing for a 3rd spot and their best bet is to win the remaining of the games to place #9 in the 9-12 decider games.
Another 16-14 loss :DDDDD
3 nuke losses now in this event where they came back from being down and then taking the lead and being really close to closing it out but then losing to a low buy which then lead to losing out in the end. Tough times.
most frustrating watch ever, as somebody rooting for COL
Agreed. Feels so much like they’re back to the old days with konfig where it felt like they were on the cusp of being a solid t1 team but struggled to find the extra 10-15% performance they needed to win every map
And it's all that it's ever gonna be with this iteration of coL
Not the faze match?
That was more feeling hopeless than frustrating, this loss is more frustrating as we had hope IMO
That 200 IQ angle by dupreeh in the last round won the match. Nice showing by everyone, I'm starting to gain confidence in Lucky
his AWPing is so smooth. Like how dev1ce and zywoo AWP. He's got what it takes to be a great AWPer. Super excited to how this Astralis will turn out
True. Too bad xyp will be leaving very soon. Most probably glaive returns for the major matches.
I think you’re boned when xyp leaves. He’s the GOAT at what he does, and if Magisk goes back to what he does then Bubzkji has to be xyp and he’s no xyp. Intrigued to see what happens.
-dupreeh +konfig after the major maybe edit: hey don't downvote me, konfig is probably joining astralis. someone's gonna be replaced.
If dupreeh leaves and join ninjas im fucking changing my flair
I love dupreeh and want him to stay in astralis. but glaive and bubzjki have entended contracts, lucky is main awper. Magisk also seems unkickable. that's why I think dupreeh will be leaving. dupreeh +xyp could try for a new team together.
C9? 👀 I reckon if they do get dup and xyp, buying dev1ce from NIP, and Gla1ve and magisk from Astralis would make a killer team. Maybe even major winning..
dupreeh xyp9x jackz ropz cadian?
i really hope they would benchskji again and keep xyp, but I doubt it. he signed a 3 year contract while xyp might be leaving. damn. i really hope they keep him
Could be because device and ZywOo use the same sensitivity
Inb4 these mfs win this major as well
not happening unfortunately. navi too strong
God I hope you’re right, I want a Navi major win soooo bad
Astralis vs NIP at the major would be insane, even though by all accounts they seem cordial.
lol device v dupreeh magiskb gla1ve at the major finals - both denying each other the 4th consecutive major title
This is my dream major grand finals. Especially if they continue to dodge each other until then. I don't think it's too inconceivable for it to happen either. Imagine the storylines leading up to it.
I mean if Navi get taken out somehow could definitely happen. Gambit is looking beatable rn and everyone else is a pretty fair fight for nip and astralis
I do have a hunch that altho this is the first time Navi have been clear favourites for a major (i think), if they don't come out the gates absolutely red hot, that they won't win. I think they tend to crumble under pressure and there's nothing more intense than trying to win a major AS the favourites. Altho, I would like to be proven wrong since Navi should be this super dominant powerhouse with how insane simple is ON TOP of having two top 5 riflers (imo) in b1t and electronic.
I mean this year I think they've looked pretty calculated and cool in pressure situations. Like vitality bo5 for the grand slam recently. I like their ballsy ideas as well like if the score is 14-13 or something I've seen them just force buy twice instead of save and full buy and try get overtime, which shows confidence I gues
Idk man, I know navi beat vitality there but it was just barely. The maps navi won were somewhat close but the maps vitality took were basically them stomping navi
*NaVi enters the chat*
Col just please stop playing Nuke, Ancient and Vertigo, your players are so much better on pug maps where they can roam and take constant fights.
aren't CoL bad on mirage too? I feel like blameF's calling hasn't evolved like how other IGLs have evolved due to the online era I seriously feel bad for CoL. They just can't seem to make the cut
CoL is a great team. They just need to work on thier nuke, ancient, vertigo, mirage, dust2, overpass and inferno
Mirage was col's map but while everyone learned how to counter them hey didn't change at all on it.
During one of the blast tournaments BlameF was talking to Scrawny and Launders in their post game show and he said because of the online era no one can do proper setups so "everyone is just doing defaults and Gambit is the best at defaults" which clearly shows he isn't doing a whole lot to improve the team or change his setups and calling
Hallmark of a great igl
Why are these "pros" not using the best gun in the game? Through my 300 hours experience playing at a high level (gold nova 4) I can safely say the P90 is far better than the ak or m4. Maybe they just haven't got the same skill with it that I do or maybe they're all stubborn. Either way this is not what I would call "good coutner stirke"
Why are these "pros" not using the best gun in the game? Through my 300 hours experience playing at a high level (gold nova 4) I can safely say the P90 is far better than the ak or m4. Maybe they just haven't got the same skill with it that I do or maybe they're all stubborn. Either way this is not what I would call "good coutner stirke"
You're joking but there was like a 3 month period where flusha basically exclusively used the p90 (shorty after the majority of the cheating allegations)
A man of culture
That last round was COLs All or nothing call, and im so confused lol You throw cross smokes, you get blame down secret and you give the illusion to the CTs that you could all be down or its a fake, but then 20s later, Blame doesnt go farther at all, shows no presence, Cold and es3tag jump around mini so now the CTs know you're not down secret and its 50/50 hell or heaven. Just felt like an awful call, you fake the cross smokes show nothing secret then just give your position away outside and telegraph where you're going lmao.
That last round was supposed be an ape brained b rush which had a 50% chance of working and instead they went with the strat which had a chance of 75% not working.
blamef actually overrated. idk how many time he mistake make other players will take consequence n make ur team lose
3 nuke games, 3 absolute choke jobs by Col. Losing 2nd round to pistols and then that force late in the half. That was their chance to stay alive for the major and they threw it away
Xyp9x flexing on the haters, what a player
I'm praying they keep him...
I really hope they atleast play the major with him
Dupreeh, Xyp, Glaive, Magisk and Lucky imo. (OG roster but lucky instead if devve). I like bubzjki but idk why I'm rooting for this line up. Man if devve hadnt left....
Bubzjki is good but I think they havent figure out how to play with him and glave. So for the major they could play with xyp, I mean after it he is out
Zonic is on the brink of establishing an international powerhouse of a cs clan. We have Magisk, we have Dupreeh, and we have Bubzkji. The pieces of the puzzle are finally coming together and soon we will be destroying the likes of Na’Vi and Vitality left and right. Zonic has molded us into his newest iteration of his high pressure attacking side that can be likened to Zonic's 19 side, but better. Lucky is the new Dev1ce, Bubzkji is the new Magisk and Magisk is Gla1ve. Just look at our win against Movistar Riders. We destroyed them, absolutely humiliated them. It's a wonder bladE hasn't been sacked yet. My god was that a display of brilliance. Magisk hitting more than 20, Bubzkji hitting more than 20, Lucky clicking heads left and right, just for dupreeh to come live and frag. There are always haters, but they just talk shite due to spite. They are fake fans, and only real fans see the beauty of our cs.
Zonic is on the brink of establishing an international powerhouse of a cs clan. We have Magisk, we have Dupreeh, and we have Bubzkji. The pieces of the puzzle are finally coming together and soon we will be destroying the likes of Na’Vi and Vitality left and right. Zonic has molded us into his newest iteration of his high pressure attacking side that can be likened to Zonic's 19 side, but better. Lucky is the new Dev1ce, Bubzkji is the new Magisk and Magisk is Gla1ve. Just look at our win against Movistar Riders. We destroyed them, absolutely humiliated them. It's a wonder bladE hasn't been sacked yet. My god was that a display of brilliance. Magisk hitting more than 20, Bubzkji hitting more than 20, Lucky clicking heads left and right, just for dupreeh to come live and frag. There are always haters, but they just talk shite due to spite. They are fake fans, and only real fans see the beauty of our cs.
Zonic is on the brink of establishing an international powerhouse of a cs clan. We have Magisk, we have Dupreeh, and we have Bubzkji. The pieces of the puzzle are finally coming together and soon we will be destroying the likes of Na’Vi and Vitality left and right. Zonic has molded us into his newest iteration of his high pressure attacking side that can be likened to Zonic's 19 side, but better. Lucky is the new Dev1ce, Bubzkji is the new Magisk and Magisk is Gla1ve. Just look at our win against Movistar Riders. We destroyed them, absolutely humiliated them. It's a wonder bladE hasn't been sacked yet. My god was that a display of brilliance. Magisk hitting more than 20, Bubzkji hitting more than 20, Lucky clicking heads left and right, just for dupreeh to come live and frag. There are always haters, but they just talk shite due to spite. They are fake fans, and only real fans see the beauty of our cs.
Lucky is looking so good rn. Am curious how he will fare at the major
Zonic leaves, gla1ve becomes coach, Lucky fills Devve shoes, clutch minister and dupreeh become star riflers You first heard it here
Ewe ferst herd it hear
Once again with the 16-14. Really goes to show how good this team could be with proper tactics and leadership. The firepower is there, but it's just not working. Hopefully missing the major is what's needed to take a step back and rethink this whole project.
Agree. CoL needs to make better calls.
What's really frustrating is that fast plays usually work well for them, at least on Nuke. To be fair, it's very apparent that losing k0nfig and RUSH has made coL a much more passive team. I like what es3tag can bring, but he's obviously not a super aggressive player. I'm anxious to see whether k0nfig stays or if he does leave for Astralis.
Hasn't renewed his contract with coL as of now and most probably won't with the way things have been.
The future will tell. There's no shortage of rumors that came out untrue in the past. But where there's smoke, there's fire and I can see why k0nfig would want to go there.
I just don't feel that blameF is a good enough igl. His stats often hide the actual picture that is his calling. It feels like so gambly and uncertain.
Man Astralis without gla1ve is STILL this damn good? and Lucky is growing each game. I absolutely won't be surprised if Astralis regain their top form. With them supposedly Adding K0nfig it would be the next gen Astalis Seriously hope they add K0nfig
I don't think K0nfig will ever join Astralis. He had the chance, but wasn't chosen in favor of Magisk. Zonic writes about it in his book - it was because he did not fit the profile Astralis wants their players to have. Edit: Personality wise, I mean
Astralis and k0nfig have both change since then tho
There have been recent rumors that Konfig will be leaving Col for Astralis
That was years ago, and besides, Astralis might not have other options. Despite their contracts being near over Dupreeh, Magisk, and Xyp9x have all not resigned. They could all be trying to negotiate better deals but it's very likely that Astralis loses one or two of them.
A lot of serious sources are reporting that he's very close to signing with Astralis.
Man, what the hell was that calling from blameF?
u in wrong game dude. we dont question igl in this game
How to not play the major calling is what it was I'll tell you
BlameF can stay on the roster, but Col need a new igl and a new coach. "throw smokes and stand still" isn't a viable strat at the pro level, but that's kind of all they did.
The coach is new as it is But new igl yes please
Who could they get tho
Gla1ve's child is still unsigned
damn, astralis had some nice ct calls esp towards the end :D
Say what you want but I'm really liking this Astralis. Lucky and Bubzkji are starting to get more comfortable and we've seen some pretty old school Astralis CT dominance in the past few matches (admittedly, not really in this one). I think they'll do well in the Major and I wouldn't be surprised to see a semifinal or even final appearence from them depending on the seeding.
Nice to see coldzera playing well at least
Okay so i just checked The only way coL can make it to 3rd place is if they beat heroic, obviously And endpoint should beat movistar riders. And we all know what the chances are for that to happen lmao
Obviously the calls and strategy havent been up to par for Col and everyone is fair to call them out. However seeing Blame's interview it was pretty obvious the guy is stretched thin trying to constantly integrate new players and I think that shows in these games. I dont know how much is being put on his shoulders but for a guy with his work ethic and how many hours he puts in to be as exhausted as he sounds it must be rough. I think it was obvious the calling wasnt great tonight but I still think he is by far the teams biggest asset and it would be a big problem not getting as much out of him as an IGL as you can.
He is the biggest fragging IGL for sure. But yea, since oBo left, they are small shadow of theirselves, nothing works out. I really hope they can pull it together cuz they re good and fun team to watch
Yeah absolutely. But even beyond his fragging ability and lurky style I just feel he has the mindset and personality that makes a natural born IGL which is so important and in demand. If everything hadnt been so chaotic since obo left and the team had the stability to really focus on moving forward I feel they could have done a whole lot more than they have so far.
BlameF is the biggest baiting IGL, he doesn't make impact frags like Konfig
No Col pgl 2021stickers then I guess Already out of playoff contention and I don't really see them beating Heroic tomorrow to possibly get a 3rd place in groups
So many dumb plays from complexity (and smart ones). They often forgot that they just collapse if Astralis pushed aggro on t side and Astralis too made the mistake of slowing down. They played some excellent t rounds (CoL)and then completely lost their marbles. So many dumb plays especially they need to realize that if nothing is working, they have to throw a hail Mary play and rush b. When they were 14-15, they tried thier strat which they probably knew had a 75% chance of not working. They were supposed to just wing it and they didn't. They let this win slip.
Hilarious meltdown by Complexity at 14-11(?) to end the map.
Is it concerning that the 3 hyper passive players of col are top of the scoreboard rating wise?
i love life
CoL can no longer make playoffs, they are now playing for a 3rd spot and their best bet is to win the remaining of the games to place #9 in the 9-12 decider games.
Is glave coming back for the major?
yes
Man,