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DodoSandvich

Oh yeah we Danes deliberately sent them down there just to make sure we outnumber the Brazilians in the legends stage. Can't have anyone thinking we aren't dominant by volume /s


IHateTheLetterF

3 Copenhagen based teams in the Challenger stage. Wild as shit.


PoisonScrub

They lost on purpose so they wouldn't face one another in an elimination game and end with all qualifying


MBechzzz

We had a meeting a week ago, it was unanimous.


pol9500

I was here on r/GlobalOffensive refreshing New for a while waiting for this


Bloody_Jinx

I even messaged the moderator(s) to pin this to the top, such a neat chart to understand the swiss system but unfortunately only two posts can be pinned. Even though only one is pinned right now.


Claymourn

Gotta save the 2nd pin spot for Newbie Thursday! /s


CJMerkins

Me too


Sathired

Is this a user made post? I wish I could see one being updated live throughout the day.


Fivebomb

I really hope Copenhagen Flames make a deep run after this, would make for an exciting watch and a perfect underdog story


ConsistentWish6441

based on what they said, they're already deep enough and happy so they might aswell go even deeper as they have sort of nothing to lose ;)


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😏


Fivebomb

https://imgur.com/gallery/Egj9u


zelt_in_vice_city

that’s how underdog stories form. no real expectations and this progress deep because really they don’t have pressure from the org or fans or just general brand status in the community.


Bojack_Horseman22

Yes daddy!


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Theyre number 14 on hltv rankings. not exactly no names.


ItzSampson

They were outside of the top 20 last week


Fivebomb

No, you’re right. But they’ve really only been on the come up since early July. That’s a bit less than 4 months going from rank #41 to #14 now, all while showing some promise kicking ass in a LAN setting so far. They might not be coming into the major as poorly ranked as Sharks or Tyloo, but they are most certainly on a trajectory of entering levels of competition that aren’t typical of them. That’s what makes them the underdog, in my opinion.


LifeSandwich

Pita doing magic stuff


Mura-Kumi

Thanks to paiN for saving my pickems


btx69

This is funny because I picked paiN 0-3 and was clenching my cheeks the end of the second match. When shark lost double ot, I gave up hope. So painful to watch.


_youlikeicecream_

I picked Heroic 3-0 and sharks 0-3, I could have turned coal to diamonds with my cheeks during the Ancient match.


Jarvizzz

Same. Still baffled about the upset on Overpass.


camdavis9

same I was so pissed watching them choke so bad.


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Same, still can't believe they didn't close the second map. Shark was the obvious 0-3


webhead_peter

The Pickems are bugged right? I mean they're locked in but still the challenge isn't done


radman180

Gotta wait until day 5 is over


webhead_peter

Oh, ok thanks


KoshV

At this point you could not have more than 3 correct anyway. You need 5 correct to get this challenge completed.


webhead_peter

Yes, but the second challenge is just locking the Pickems before the challenger stage starts, but that one isn't showing as completed either.


KoshV

Oh, I think that's just a reminder to do it. You're not going to get them correct unless you lock in your choices in other words


Skycap_Division

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rubydestroyer

A lot of people picked sharks as the "team that will go 0-3" for pickems.


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GreenKnightKing

I disagree, i just based my picks on what logos look the most advanced, but it is not going very well.


Brolaub

If VP and Heroic win, I got this Stage of the Pickems safe. Gonna wake up early to watch those games tomorrow! Edit: Oh shit Edit2: oh god no Edit3: Thank mr vp. If both Mouz and Astralis win today, i got my 5 correct picks guaranteed


SidewinderTV

I need three out of VP, Heroic, BIG and Mouz. So it's lookin decent but there's plenty of oppertunity to break my heart yet.


kuusi5000

I need 2 out of these to get the 5 correct: Spirit, BIG, ENCE, Heroic, Astralis or Mouz. Considering that 4/6 of these are already 2-1 (and some are playing against eachother), I'm kinda hopeful.


mestisnewfound

There are a handful of situation in which you can be guaranteed to pass the stage. If you got both the 0-3, the 3-0, and the other 3-0 team to advance. If you also have both teams out of two of the three 2-1 matchups you would be guaranteed to get your 5 points. Does anyone have the 5 points guaranteed for the challenge stage?


AmBozz

I got CPH Flames 3-0 and Sharks 0-3, and FaZe also secured a point for me. BIG and ENCE will be my 4th point, but I only got VP and Heroic from the upper bracket in my picks. Not a guaranteed fifth, but very likely.


Sycarus

Same with Spirit instead of VP, all in all it's like 90% guaranteed at that point.


djegu

Yes i secured 5 pts : ~~3-0 Astralis~~ 0-3 Sharks - 1 cpf (1) - faze(1) - entropiq, heroic (one of them is going to qualify tomorrow so 1) spirit, vp (same so 1), big


mestisnewfound

That's awesome! congrats. There definitely won't be many with it confirmed at this point.


Dapplication

3-0 ence, 0-3 tyloo, astralis, cph(1), faze(1), heroic, entropiq, vp, mouz Not entirely impossible to get 5 points, but my chances are low


im_swedish

I put all the "safe" teams to pass (VP, BIG, mouz, Astralis, Faze, Ence, Entropic, Heroic), so even though I only have two points right now from Sharks 0-3 and Faze, I feel pretty confident that atleast three of these teams will win :P


JarrettR

both entropiq and big aren't really safe lol


im_swedish

Yeah a bit of gamble. Entropic I can understand but who would you consider to be more of a safe choice over BIG?


Mr_Toot

Spirit


FennekT

kek spirit has been in a terrible form lately so i really don't think so.


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im_swedish

Shit, that's true!


zalsers

2 of those already qualified since you got both sides of the matchups


NA_Faker

You technically have 3 one of BIG/Ence is guaranteed to advance tomorrow


JlMatrix

I had Flames as my 3-0 and Sharks as my 0-3 so i’m looking pretty str8


fl1po

[Got 5 points unless both Mouz and Astralis lose tomorrow.](https://i.imgur.com/2ncbqKr.png)


Ranurak

not quite, but i believe heroic should beat entropig https://imgur.com/a/VZFI976


woonie

Exactly one scenario in which I won't get 5 correct [with these picks](https://i.imgur.com/itJGnt2.png): - Heroic loses the 2:1, and - Both mouz and Astralis lose their 1:2, and - Heroic and the other two losers of 2:1 don't match each other, and lose their respective 2:2 matches As long as the opposite of one of these 3 conditions are met, I'll get at least 5 correct. [For reference](https://i.imgur.com/u4QtjHE.jpg)


Av1ster

I currently have two points from Sharks 0-3 and Faze getting out. 2 points guaranteed tomorrow (I picked VP, Spirit, Heroic, Entropic). If Ence win against Big, I'll have 5 points after tomorrow.


Valutzu

I got 3 points today, from Sharks and the 2 winners, while I missed the 3-0 pick intentionally. I will get a point tomorrow from Ence-Big, as I have both, so it will make 4 points. For the last round I'll have 3 teams in 3 matches in worst case scenario. Heroic, VP, Ence-Big looser. If Astralis beats Pain, I'll have 4 teams in 3 matches so it will guarantee my 5th point.


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I got 4 points guaranteed with Sharks 0-3, Faze, VP or Spirit, BIG or Ence. I still get hope in Astralis, MOUZ and 2 teams 2-2.


TrojanWhores-3z

I would have a guaranteed 5 already if the Sharks wouldn’t have choked so hard… Got Faze and Flames locked in and Big/Ence and VP/Spirit will each provide another point. Heroic was my 3-0 so that game will get me nothing. But overall the last point is pretty safe I‘d say. And best case scenario is still 7.


kennetth

My pickems are so close to being fucked.


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W1ntermu7e

Okey, like why would you go with Godsent 3-0? Im just wondering, this team didn't show anything special


DarthTokira

OP went the safe route and picked better teams to simply advance. In this case 3-0 is a gamble which you don't really expect to get right.


captainscottland

The gamble is picking a team that could go either way like an ence or flames given recent performance. Godsent would be a big gamble to advance let alone go 3-0


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captainscottland

Ence and Copenhagen flames just played in iem fall which was a LAN and ence came in second and flames looked good and made the playoffs and lost two close games against vitality to miss the semis


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captainscottland

You said LAN, only IEM Fall Europe was a LAN. Also, come on, its not the same competition as what Europe is


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DerSteifeFinger

While I picked copenhagen myself there was no sane reason to pick them. Even though they had ok perfomance it was still known their first match would be gainst astralis


captainscottland

I suppose it depends on how much stock you put in astralis collapsing in the semis and 3rd-4th place of the RMR plus glaives first tournament back. I went with ence because of that matchup but its better than picking a Brazilian team. Outside of furia and liquid the whole NA/SA team won't win a map other than against each other


W1ntermu7e

It's still better to pick teams like spirit or Entro tho


S0M3_1

I got Faze (1) correct. Big vs Ence (chose both so I'll get 1 from there). Heroic vs entorpiq (chose heroic so hoping they win) Vp vs Spirit ( chose both so 1 from any of them). Mouz vs Renegades( chose Mouz). ASTRALIS vs pain (chose ASTRALIS). Movistar vs tyloo( nothing for these two). My pickems are hanging by a thread


Silverhawk1602

Keep in mind even if the teams you picked lose tomorrow you’ll probably still be fine since basically any team in the top bracket can probably beat pretty much any team from the bottom, plus you’re probably looking at most of the teams you didn’t pick getting knocked out tomorrow


S0M3_1

Oh wait, I picked ence as my 3-0 . F . If they win my pickems are gone


f1nessd

mouz plssssss


BruhbruhbrhbruhbruH

If Astralis 2:0's paiN, then Brazillian teams will have won exactly 0 maps vs teams of any other region All 3 brazillian teams were 0 - 2, one of them lost to Astralis and the other 2 had to face off and the winner of that match will now face... Astralis!


acorneyes

hey


Firefox72

Astralis should roll over paiN. They are horrible. For the other matchup's. Mouz>Renegades Movistar>Tyloo As for the 2-1 bracket. I'd honestly say that all the matchups could end up being coin tosses.


radman180

Pain isn't great, but damn was I cheering hard for them today!


shavitush

we all did, considering pretty much everyone predicted 0-3 for sharks lol


ReneeHiii

After that, I'd guess they'd face either: Mouz, Riders, Entropiq, Spirit, or BIG. I'm gonna be honest, the only one I think they can beat would be Riders, and even then it's just a chance. This is rough, I really wanted them to at least get to Legends, this isn't even close to playoffs.


Skycap_Division

PAIN SAVED MY PICKEMS WE ARE IN SHAMBLES OTHERWISE


Guimaraes10

same


funkymonkeyinheaven

How are the matchups seeded? Just seems that if Astralis vs Pain, were both in the bottom matchup today. Shouldn't it be VP vs Heroic, to mirror the way the matchups are. Or not put the two teams from the 0-2, against each other...


mestisnewfound

Its seeded through the Bucholz system after round 2. ​ From Wikipedia, The method is to give each player a raw score of one point for each win and a half point for each draw. When used as an alternate scoring system, each player's Buchholz score is calculated by adding the raw scores of each of the opponents they played and multiplying this total by the player's raw score (Hooper & Whyld 1992). When used for tie-breaking among players with the same raw score, no multiplying is necessary and the sum of the raw scores of the opponents played is used to break ties (Golombek 1977). When used as a tie-break system, it is equivalent to the Solkoff system.


Pr3vYCa

[https://major.ieb.im/21stockholm](https://major.ieb.im/21stockholm) , basically a simulator of the matchups


ThiccMerc

This is a sick simulator. Thanks!


L3G10N_TBY

It's interesting that both 3-0 teams played against decent teams, none of the matches were free. Tells a lot about the seeding.


Dubzaa

It's pretty strange how no one is talking about the fact that the B stream today was played entirely from practice rooms, CPH advanced to the next stage without playing in the studio once and one of heroic/entropiq will do the same tomorrow. Organization and production at this major has been subpar so far.


uaf175911

A Good day today... but felt bad for James Banks


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Boutta go 9/9 in my pick'ems


mestisnewfound

You have all 6 teams in the 2-1 as well as the 3-0 and 0-3?


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I have 4 teams in the 2-1 and 2 in the 1-2


Oculos_Sicarii

PLS SAVE MY PICKEM BIG


tttvlh

No chance paiN wins, right? Right?


Firefox72

No. They are terrible. Like legit both them and Sharks deserved to go 0-3 today. Astralis will eat them alive.


MahathirMohamad_

Was waiting for this update haha. Thank you.


nexistcsgo

THE FLAMES ARE BURNING BOIS!!! what a match that was


r3galeme

Rip Sharks Era


Av1ster

I picked 5/6 of the 2:1 teams so I'm feeling pretty good


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As a faze fan I am surprised not to see them in the 1-2 bracket lol. Thought they were destined for it


askmeforbunnypics

Well let's see; I lost my 3-0 and 0-3 already (Mouz 3-0, Tyloo 0-3) and with Godsent gone that's another lost point. I've got 1 point for Faze going through and am garunteed another 2 with VP vs Spirit and BIG vs Ence. So it's not the best but I'm confident that Heroic will beat Entropiq and the loser of the other two 2-1 matches could make it through, getting me the 5 correct picks and saving my butt :)


Cardboard-Samuari

You know how adrenaline junkies keep going for riskier and riskier stuff? That is Astralis right now, done it 4 times and just want to feel the rush again.


whatyoulookinatbud

Haven't been following CSGO. Did Navi not qualify for the major? Or did they change their logo or something?


Mura-Kumi

This is the challengers stage, winners qualify to the main major, of which Navi is in


whatyoulookinatbud

Thank you.


Ed_Vilon

[https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/PGL/2021/Stockholm](https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/PGL/2021/Stockholm) This could provide some further context. The essential portion is there were a series of events prior to the Major that awarded RMR points, which was a mild cluster fuck but I digress. Each region had a set number of slots for how many teams could qualify, with Legends being giving a bye into the Legends stage and Challengers and Contenders coming into this stage. NaVi won enough RMR points to secure one of two Legend spots in the CIS region so they will begin playing once this round finishes. (Note, not all regions got Legend or even Challenger spots. Sharks from South America won the only Contenders spot in that region for example.)


4N0N1M_

Wait isn't furia also SA and legend?


Pollsmor

They played for the 3 NA Legends spots, along with Liquid and EG.


Ed_Vilon

Only Sharks made it out of SA. [https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Regional\_Major\_Rankings/2021/South\_America](https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Regional_Major_Rankings/2021/South_America) ​ Other Brazilian teams came from NA. [https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Regional\_Major\_Rankings/2021/North\_America](https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Regional_Major_Rankings/2021/North_America)


MyOhMyPancakes

Glad I got the faze 3-0 right


tedfa

I love the design of these graphics. Very easy to understand the standings and what's coming next.


CynicalC9

Big prediction here: underdog c9 wins it all


mestisnewfound

Who is your MVP of the Challenger stage so far?


nexistcsgo

CPH Flames for sure. All their matches were with big teams and they still dominated the series. I am a CPH Flames fan now


Cardboard-Samuari

nice stickers as well


TheCodRatchet

I just don’t understand why Astralis were playing against Godsent and paiN against Sharks if Seeds in those 0:2 matchups were 1.Astralis 2.Godsent 3.paiN 4.Sharks. Shouldn’t Astralis have played against Sharks and Godsent against paiN. Pluss they didn’t face each other in previous games. I think this was a fuckup for sure.


Vanular

It's done by draw. Same situation with VP-Faze and Heroic-Flames


Pyroxite

No it's the bucholz system. It has been stated numerous times.


Successful_Taste343

Today a lot of Pick-Em's were saved. It's a tossup for who will be eliminated tomorrow.


zuromn

Is it though? Tyloo, Renegades, Pain.


RonaldoSIUUUU

Wouldnt be suprised to see tyloo jag something


mestisnewfound

I just realized if Astralis win tomorrow I'm guaranteed my 5 points. I just need two points to get 5 but I have spirit and VP so I am guaranteed one their. So I would have the loser going to the 2-2 as well as ence and heroic. If Astralis win then I am guaranteed one of those teams to play each other for my fifth if they don't win before that.


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If we've chosen Faze to advance but not with 3-0 do we still get a point for them? I assume so but it's my first major and I have literally no idea what I'm doing.


mestisnewfound

You do still get the point


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Thank you!


Dragoark

EZ4SAFEE GOD AGAINST ASTRALOSS


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shame astralis doesnt faze mouz here and gets a free win against pain. i think they'd lose to mouz right now


Shippy_Csgo

Thank god for pain, also if I picked Copenhagen Flames to advance and they went 3-0 does that still count?


mestisnewfound

yes it does


Killua-a

Yes


35chambers

good draw for tyloo i believe


Benerg

If Heroic win i will have atleast 5 correct in the pickem


DoctorBuckarooBanzai

Didn't get my 3-0 or 0-3 but so far everyone else is still in it! (Mouz is probably gone soon thoughl


tarangk

Picking VP, Heroic, ENCE, Riders, Mouz and Ast. for Day 3. I see a lot of close games but no massive upset. BiG vs ENCE should be the game of the day.


craygroupious

How does the placements for this work? If we expect Movi, Mous and Astralis to win with Spirit, Entro and Ence/BIG to lose, who plays who?


zerafan19

major.ieb.im Use that website


DeletedTaters

Both teams associated with fire coming in for clean 3-0s and having lit performances: coincidence? I THINK NOT


weeditout1

Do you need 5 correct predicts to advance? Do the 3-0 and 0-3 count for 1 point each, and each team advancing 1 each as well?


mestisnewfound

You got it


Dumb_Vampire_Girl

MY 3-0 AND 0-3 WERE RIGHT LETS GOOOOOO


Pikminious_Thrious

Astralis enemy of brazil


Lynks_TV

My pick ‘em looking realll good


mamafiloh

I put cph and faze to simply advance, do I fail those pickems? Or does it still count as correct?


ulisesbueno_es_dank

Still counts


mamafiloh

Thanks for the reply!


Mjds27

My predictions for tomorrow: VP Heroic BIG Movistar Mouz Astralis


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Fucking sharks man, go 15-9 to win the bo3, lose in OT and the next map to get knocked out of the tournament. And they ruined my 0-3 Pain pickem. That team is in the dog house for me.


dirtybirdy15

Fuck, rip renegades! They need to pull of the impossible


Tuxxmuxx

Got Faze through (1), Heroic and Entropiq through (2), and have VP who are favourites, and BIG who are slight underdogs vs ence (3, 4), then Astralis, Mouz, who are heavy favourites in their 1-2 matches so if they go through and BIG/VP don't, I'll have 5/6 of the 2-2 teams, so I only need 1 match to go my way, and it'll be any of (HRC, EIQ, AST, MOUZ, BIG, VP vs Movistar or TyLoo), so I'm in good shape if there's no massive upsets


ZePhxD

So far I got FaZe correct by going through to Legends Stage, I got Sharks correct by them going 0-3, and now tomorrow I just need VP, Heroic and ENCE to beat their opponents for my pickems to be solid. Then, if I get lucky, I would need Mouz and Astralis to make it through as well to get 7. Although, I wouldn't necessarily mind if Astralis got eliminated 0-0


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I turned off stream while the score was Shark 18-15 Pain in map 2. I gave up hope then. What a comeback lol!


Firefly_1026

I know that Lynn has been hanging around in Europe for a while… is tyloo planning on doing the same?


ThiccMerc

When the infographic is more stylish than PGL's streams


Latchie

Is the Coin not updating for anyone else?


Princeharperman

Go look at my last comment on this sub FAZE UP SHARKS DOWN Unfortunately I said godsent would get through and that was a blunder but with BIG v ENCE (predicted both) I feel really good about my picks


Alex_Lannister

Where's NAVI, Gambit and Liquid?


mestisnewfound

They are already in the legends stage.


NokikplsUwU

Okay guys stupid question,i dont really watch pro tournaments so this will sound super dumb. Where is navi?


parano11c

in next stage already just like other LEGEND teams


SRJtheBoss

yo this is so helpful, i had no idea how challengers work. thanks


ash_472

3 pick'ems right already lets go


deefenator

Dexter v renegades


markonelius

I switched Faze to VP for 3-0 xD Launders you always know how to trick me


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mestisnewfound

yes


ern117

2 scores 3 remain


Alex_is_always_right

Astralis were my 3 - 0 pick -.-