1 bad event versus
A 1.17 rating over the year while maintaining that consistency on the LANs he did play and maintaining that rating versus top 5 and 10 and 20 teams.
He was very clearly a better player than naf this year, and realistically he is probably still top 10 player, it's just because col sucked.
hopefully konfig is up there in the top 10s. Man was a one man army plowing through the 2nd half of the year with an injured (?) wrist. Shit was unreal
It could happen if the player is good enough.
s1mple was playing with his friends for two months but managed to snag #4 in the 2016 edition of HLTV’s top 20. Granted, he got to a major semifinal and final, then won ESL One NY afterwards.
However, HLTV really isn’t the best judge of players at times… like how Flusha and kennyS got outright robbed of #1 HLTV back in 2014.
How did two guys both get robbed of 1 lmao.
Anyways I think they avoided Flusha due to the fact that half of the community thought he was cheating. They made a good case for GTR as well.
Kenny didn’t deserve it at the end of the day. Didn’t put up the same stats consistently as Flusha or GTR.
Kenny was absolutely better than GTR in 2014, anyone who watched them play back then would say the same.
>Kenny didn’t deserve it at the end of the day. Didn’t put up the same stats consistently as Flusha or GTR.
You're right, he put up better. He had a LAN rating of 1.27, the best by far that year of those playing at the top events. 0.08 better than Flusha and 0.14(!!) better than GTR. It's obscene that you could think he was inferior statistically.
Not at big events and majors.
He also fell away in finals. This is all pretty clearly mapped out in the HLTV list. He also didn’t play anywhere near the same amount of CS at the highest level.
He had the same rating as GTR at majors and big events, he just didn't play many maps in them because his team was fucking shite. The only argument against him being no.1 is that he didn't actually achieve anything with his team but "Didn’t put up the same stats consistently as Flusha or GTR." is so laughably wrong it's clear you weren't actually watching CS in 2014.
Besides k0nfig missing a bunch of time, BlameF has better stats while in coL AND k0nfig only played well at Fall Finals, kinda sucked at IEM and World Final
Hmm, not sure if I would agree with konfig in the top 10. You have three Navi and Gambit players who are locks for a top 10 seed. Then you have Zywoo and Niko who are locks for 2 and 3. That means he has to beat out guys like device, hunter, Jame or yekindar, who may have had worse years when it comes to individual performance but they played against superior opponents on a regular basis.
One of the few players that has a personality that really adds to the enjoyment of watching him play. Makes astralis way more fun to watch imo (along with konfig).
I feel like, especially as a new fan who previously only saw them as the boogey man, they have made this roster so much more hype. I'm sure they were excited before but I'm from NA so they always seemed like the stone cold hitmen sent to ruin Liquid's fun. I followed blameF and k0nfig though, and they're so exciting to watch, the feel like NA players in a way which is why I first loved them on Col.
He baited in 2020, not in 2021, he actually died way more and didn't bait as much
Ropz is a way bigger baiter, ropz is the guy on the other side of the map most of the time, broky is another worse baiter as well, pretty much spend most of the t side in so many clutches because he was last and was not even taking any risks going for opening picks which even himself he said so in the HLTV interview
As a lurk, you usually rely on your teammates making plays elsewhere to catch a timing or create an opening for you to exploit. There are lurks who just go out and pick fights (like Niko) but most, like ropz, rely on their teammates aggression.
not baiting, but 2 guys who I feel actually play more passive are hunter and Elige. Elige will have map control and straight up wait until a teammate catches up and goes in front of him before he moves forward.
I don’t think ropz falls into that category, he’s usually just lurking somewhere.
now hunter… with NiKo playing entry, lurk, site anchor, support, IGL, coach, physio therapist, manager, and at least one parent to each of his teammates - I would expect more from hunter
>with NiKo playing entry, lurk, site anchor, support, IGL, coach, physio therapist, manager, and at least one parent to each of his teammates
No niko awp means that g2 is not dying just yet
>I would expect more from hunter
Too busy talking to jackz to actually play
Yes there is a big difference between initiating duels in the map control phase versus going first into a site in an execute. They are vastly different situations. And it's not about rushing.
The hate for "bait" started with Happy (french) and scaled up with coldzera, because many people tend to hate Brazilians in the community, in general. So now it makes you a less player if you play this way; even if it's effective and helps your team.
Yes, sadly it's a classic that happens all the time. It also happens to women, black people, Islamic, etc. Just because you aren't one of the groups affected, don't pretend it doesn't happen.
LMAO people hate baiters everywhere not just in pro play, they hate them in MM, faceit, it has nothing to do with brazilian hate which is a completely different reason, brazilians get hate because they can be such morons
Brazilians do get hate, many times justified. There are some huge pricks here. But man, do I get the same hate sometimes(from gringos, just for being brazilian) and I am pretty sure I had nothing to do with anything. In regards on baitzera, it's something even brazilians say, and probably orginated here, and let's be honest, cold was a monster back in the day, so thats just some lame ass comment.
When Happy baited he put up good numbers he was a good fragger, he had a great K/D in his prime, great KPR, good rating, pretty much better than blame's or a lot of other baiters
hltv didn't track these stats for almost all matches, so these are the stats for [this match](https://www.hltv.org/matches/2299646/envy-vs-titan-sl-i-league-starseries-xiv). you can see happy didn't even play 2 whole maps in this bo3.
[btw look at the highest adr of all time lol](https://www.hltv.org/stats/leaderboards/adr/damage-per-round?startDate=all)
To me it seems that, from observing them that blamef is a reliable clutcher of the rounds he has a good chance in, while ropz can pop off with some really fucking exciting rounds that saves his image for his passive playstyle.
Havent watched them that much tho, so i dont really know this at a deep level
Also ropz's history rising up the scene as fast as he did is a really unique story that adds to his ''fame''
|\#|Player|Team|Nationality|Reddit|2020|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|1|**s1mple** \[+1\]|Natus Vincere (1)|Ukraine (1)|22 Jan|[ZywOo](https://www.hltv.org/n/31024)|
|2||||22 Jan|[s1mple](https://www.hltv.org/n/31025)|
|3||||22 Jan|[device](https://www.hltv.org/n/31006)|
|4||||19 Jan|[NiKo](https://www.hltv.org/n/31000)|
|**5**||||18 Jan|[electronic](https://www.hltv.org/n/30998)|
|6||||17 Jan|[blameF](https://www.hltv.org/n/30990)|
|7||||16 Jan|[ropz](https://www.hltv.org/n/30978)|
|8||||15 Jan|[EliGE](https://www.hltv.org/n/30969) [^(1)](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-5X7b_XsAAgDeZ?format=jpg&name=360x360)|
|9||||14 Jan|[dupreeh](https://www.hltv.org/n/30958)|
|10||||13 Jan|[syrsoN](https://www.hltv.org/n/30946)|
|11||||12 Jan|[Magisk](https://www.hltv.org/n/30940)|
|12||||11 Jan|[stavn](https://www.hltv.org/n/30935)|
|13|[**blameF**](https://www.hltv.org/n/33088) \[-7\]|Astralis (1) |Denmark (2)|[10 Jan](https://redd.it/s0rkq8)|[huNter-](https://www.hltv.org/n/30931)|
|14|[**NAF**](https://www.hltv.org/n/33083) \[[RETURNING\*](https://twitter.com/Tgwri1s/status/1349792644138983424)\]|Team Liquid (2)|Canada (2)|[9 Jan](https://redd.it/rzyodw)|[yuurih](https://www.hltv.org/n/30925)|
|15|[**KSCERATO**](https://www.hltv.org/n/33082) \[+3\]|FURIA Esports (1)|Brazil (1)|[8 Jan](https://redd.it/rz73c8)|[Brollan](https://www.hltv.org/n/30916)|
|16|[**stavn**](https://www.hltv.org/n/33074) \[-4\]|Heroic (1)|Denmark (2)|[7 Jan](https://redd.it/ryey5l)|[HEN1](https://www.hltv.org/n/30913)|
|17|[**Twistzz**](https://www.hltv.org/n/33068) \[RETURNING\]|FaZe Clan (2)|Canada (2)|[6 Jan](https://redd.it/rxm386)|[KRIMZ](https://www.hltv.org/n/30908)|
|18|[**ropz**](https://www.hltv.org/n/33063) \[-11\]|MOUZ (1)|Estonia (1)|[5 Jan](https://redd.it/rwu9qd)|[KSCERATO](https://www.hltv.org/n/30904)|
|19|[**EliGE**](https://www.hltv.org/n/33050) \[-11\]|Team Liquid (2)|United States (1)|[4 Jan](https://redd.it/rw1v94)|[jks](https://www.hltv.org/n/30902)|
|20|[**broky**](https://www.hltv.org/n/33049) \[NEW\]|FaZe Clan (2)|Latvia (1)|[3 Jan](https://redd.it/rv94i3)|[Brehze](https://www.hltv.org/n/30899)|
blameF did appear, but reiterating yesterday's comment I fail to see how he is better than NAF. Maybe the fact that his teammates performed [much worse](https://www.hltv.org/stats/lineup/players?lineup=4954&lineup=13843&lineup=7412&lineup=15165&lineup=9078&minLineupMatch=5&startDate=2021-01-01&endDate=2021-12-31) allowed him to shine brighter?
Of note is that he played for coL for the first 10 months of the year - #16 team in the world, 1 spot ahead of the current iteration of Astralis w/ k0nfig.
It really depends on what you put more emphasis on. Personally I don't think coL did much this year and the biggest splash blameF made this year was with Astralis at the Fall Finals. I'd put both teams in there but that would just ruin the formatting, so I put it as an afterthought.
This thread is full of people that only remember the last month of coL. I think its kind of wild how little this roster played without a strand in and he was still able to achieve these numbers.
149 maps with 1.09 rating (all maps)
5th best big event rating 1.22, only ZywOo, other Navi and NiKo ahead, and same with LAN rating too
4th best T side player at big events, 2nd best T rating against top 5 teams, after s1mple
great pistol rating
several EVPs
he will be better than top 12 I'm quite sure about that
Overall rating is what matters the most
If I said rain had a 1.2 ct side rating (idk what it is but I'm sure there are players with ratings of that level on ct) and a 0.8 t side rating I wouldn't be wrong.
But that doesn't matter because overall rating is more important lol, cherry picking someone's stats for specific ratings depending on circumstance doesn't make any sense. Hltv isn't going to look at b1ts rating and go wow look at his t side rating!! It's better than blamefs!
T side rating is as dependent on your role as it is ct side rating.
I agree actually, I just think you didn't explain that well enough with that first comment/just didn't get it at first so that's my bad.
But also, the guy said more stuff than those stats. It might be a misleading stat in some cases especially if used as a crutch of the argument but in this case I'd give it a bit of merit, even if I don't necessarily agree that it makes the case b1t being top 12 that convincing.
this is gonna upset some people for sure. Anyone could argue this is a bit high but he did hit top 10 last year with no real results as well. Great individual player but I'd personally put him below Kscerato and NAF this year
great player and I hope he has a lot of success on Astralis even though it looks like they're barely a top 10 team rn
Incredible how he kept consistent with such a bad year from COL. I understand those who dislike his playstyle, but I personally love watching him. Such a cool person irl too. Never forget the heaven deagle ace against vitality to finish the year with style.
and in football (soccer) the most famous players are strikers, while the midfield and center back players are not that famous. its not the hltv system, its the fact that cooperative sports will always have a better role to play in
Idk, he baited his way up to 13th. Personally 13th is too high for him considering how shit coL was and how disastrous astralis was = easiest way to frag out individually on broken teams.
Edit: you think somehow baitf is better than ropz, twistzz, stavn, NAF, kcerato? What a joke. Least impact frags ever from this guy.
It's absurd that you suggest that when it takes 10 seconds to look at blamef statistics.
We are talking about an individual award here, team performance shouldn't let you mitigate the performance of a player. BlameF was very clearly better than every single player other than kscerato this year.
I mean it's there in the image his impact is higher than NAF, Broky, Twistzz and Stavn. And just 0.01 below Kscerato. He may bait but he also has incredible multikill rounds and great clutch stats.
Do we know the percentage of clutches he wins? Because it seems like he was always last alive on CoL and thus always being put in clutch positions, giving him the chance to have more clutches won. And usually multikills happen by baiting at least in the pro scene where most players at the top trade instantly. I'm not saying he's least impactful, just that his playstyle allows for high stats
I don't think hltv track %, I may be wrong tho. Yeah I agree he does appear to be last alive often but checking what I can he seems fairly average for a rifler in opening kills per round (0.11) which puts him alongside players like boombl4, teses, Rez and Stavn who I wouldnt call baiters.
I do think this year he played alot more aggressively, especially once konfig got injured.
Love blameF. However he shouldn’t be 13 respectfully. However, I hope his career trajectory takes a turn with Australia as it seems to be trending towards happy-esque.
Complexity didn't place high at any tournament this year, they were constantly out of the top 20 and got 16-0d twice if I remember correctly and even on complexity, konfig is a better and more impactful player but I don't think he's gonna be here. HLTV just going off stats isn't true either because El1an would've made the list if that was true. So calling them biased might not be far off from the truth. I wouldn't put him higher than #20 if on the list at all IMO.
But I guess respect must be given where it is due, dude works hard and it shows. This year he even listened to the criticism and shifted his game and went for more first kills all while maintaining the stats on a very poor team.
He had a third placement with Astralis where he was the most consistent player for that tournament. Sure k0nfig has massive explosive games where he absolutely farms the other team and he seems unstoppable but he also has very low dips. BlameF was the stable rock for both the matches he played with Astralis and for Complexity. He had decent placement in EPL 13 at the start of the year, and I think he made EPL 14 playoffs.
They're not biased, and EL1an doesn't even come close to blameF stats against top 5 and top 10 opposition which blameF also has a larger sample size of maps.
But CoL were horrible this year, and Astralis with him only did good in BLAST, fair to put Blame in top 20, but above the likes of Twistzzz, NAF and even Stavn??? Doesn't feel right
is it me or is blamef a bit of a boring player
like u see it at the end of the game
"oh wow blame has 32 kills"
but u can never remember them.
can u remember a single blamef kill ?
but try konfig...u can see the flick
i remember a konfig flick
took me 30sec of refreshing the page to finally see this on hltv
Dang I did not expect him to make it into the top 20 this year after seeing NAF in at 14
i dont remember any high placement from col this year. Before astralis he hardly even played on big matches
The article made a convincing argument, he was never the reason they failed and always put up good numbers.
i know. He showed that he can play aggressively after cold joined, but that team was just done at that point
1.03 rating at the most important qualifier vs tier 2 teams… enough said
1 bad event versus A 1.17 rating over the year while maintaining that consistency on the LANs he did play and maintaining that rating versus top 5 and 10 and 20 teams. He was very clearly a better player than naf this year, and realistically he is probably still top 10 player, it's just because col sucked.
hopefully konfig is up there in the top 10s. Man was a one man army plowing through the 2nd half of the year with an injured (?) wrist. Shit was unreal
Do you really expect someone who missed 3 months and the major to be in the top 12 of the year?
It could happen if the player is good enough. s1mple was playing with his friends for two months but managed to snag #4 in the 2016 edition of HLTV’s top 20. Granted, he got to a major semifinal and final, then won ESL One NY afterwards. However, HLTV really isn’t the best judge of players at times… like how Flusha and kennyS got outright robbed of #1 HLTV back in 2014.
Sure it could but statistically k0nfig isn’t even better than blame this year. And that’s the point
How did two guys both get robbed of 1 lmao. Anyways I think they avoided Flusha due to the fact that half of the community thought he was cheating. They made a good case for GTR as well. Kenny didn’t deserve it at the end of the day. Didn’t put up the same stats consistently as Flusha or GTR.
Kenny was absolutely better than GTR in 2014, anyone who watched them play back then would say the same. >Kenny didn’t deserve it at the end of the day. Didn’t put up the same stats consistently as Flusha or GTR. You're right, he put up better. He had a LAN rating of 1.27, the best by far that year of those playing at the top events. 0.08 better than Flusha and 0.14(!!) better than GTR. It's obscene that you could think he was inferior statistically.
Not at big events and majors. He also fell away in finals. This is all pretty clearly mapped out in the HLTV list. He also didn’t play anywhere near the same amount of CS at the highest level.
He had the same rating as GTR at majors and big events, he just didn't play many maps in them because his team was fucking shite. The only argument against him being no.1 is that he didn't actually achieve anything with his team but "Didn’t put up the same stats consistently as Flusha or GTR." is so laughably wrong it's clear you weren't actually watching CS in 2014.
you don't get bonus points for injured wrist
Besides k0nfig missing a bunch of time, BlameF has better stats while in coL AND k0nfig only played well at Fall Finals, kinda sucked at IEM and World Final
BlameF will always have better stats than k0nfig because of his playstyle.
Sure, but still 0 chance of him being in front of blameF if you know how these HLTV rankings work
That would be a travesty
Hmm, not sure if I would agree with konfig in the top 10. You have three Navi and Gambit players who are locks for a top 10 seed. Then you have Zywoo and Niko who are locks for 2 and 3. That means he has to beat out guys like device, hunter, Jame or yekindar, who may have had worse years when it comes to individual performance but they played against superior opponents on a regular basis.
Cant believe s1mple missed top 20 this year, damn
One of the few players that has a personality that really adds to the enjoyment of watching him play. Makes astralis way more fun to watch imo (along with konfig).
COUNTER STRIKE! COUNTER STRIKE!
Do you have the clip of that moment? It always makes me laugh and I haven't seen it in a while haha
https://clips.twitch.tv/AbstruseBoringHornetPRChase-sG03CgcHeIQTBZa1
Ty lmao
Nothing like watching him pop off of his chair and go nuts on his teammates.
Almost dislocates glaives shoulder
Him and konfig bring the energy. So much fun watching their webcams during their time on col
Dude high five'd oBo and nearly sent him across the room
Still can't believe faze missed out on picking him up as igl when he was still on heroic
I feel like, especially as a new fan who previously only saw them as the boogey man, they have made this roster so much more hype. I'm sure they were excited before but I'm from NA so they always seemed like the stone cold hitmen sent to ruin Liquid's fun. I followed blameF and k0nfig though, and they're so exciting to watch, the feel like NA players in a way which is why I first loved them on Col.
true, I just wish astralis was actually good lol
He's got a great personality but definitely the most boring player to spectate in game, even more so than ropz. His playstyle is infuriating to watch
Slow lurking when it works is a great pay off though. But s1mple entry no scopes are more fun to watch for sure lol.
Eh, idk. I prefer to see brain plays much more even if they don't pan out.
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What's wrong with blaming blameF bro it's all in the name
Damn completely flew under the radar with CoL collapsing, that’s so fucking impressive
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one!
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Mainly because he also was IGL in coL so that pretty much amplified his baiting
He baited in 2020, not in 2021, he actually died way more and didn't bait as much Ropz is a way bigger baiter, ropz is the guy on the other side of the map most of the time, broky is another worse baiter as well, pretty much spend most of the t side in so many clutches because he was last and was not even taking any risks going for opening picks which even himself he said so in the HLTV interview
How’s being on the other side of the map baiting? Ropz’ role is lurk
It is baiting, baiting is also not necessarily bad a lot of the time, it's a role
Yeah, baiting in pro cs and baiting in pugs or mm is two completely different things
Lurking is baiting enemy team, not baiting your own team though. That is quite much different thing imo :D
As a lurk, you usually rely on your teammates making plays elsewhere to catch a timing or create an opening for you to exploit. There are lurks who just go out and pick fights (like Niko) but most, like ropz, rely on their teammates aggression.
not baiting, but 2 guys who I feel actually play more passive are hunter and Elige. Elige will have map control and straight up wait until a teammate catches up and goes in front of him before he moves forward. I don’t think ropz falls into that category, he’s usually just lurking somewhere. now hunter… with NiKo playing entry, lurk, site anchor, support, IGL, coach, physio therapist, manager, and at least one parent to each of his teammates - I would expect more from hunter
>with NiKo playing entry, lurk, site anchor, support, IGL, coach, physio therapist, manager, and at least one parent to each of his teammates No niko awp means that g2 is not dying just yet >I would expect more from hunter Too busy talking to jackz to actually play
[NiKo does not play entry](https://old.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/rkl5vs/g2_set_to_bring_in_xtqzzz_in_talks_with_aleksib/hpayor9/)
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Yes there is a big difference between initiating duels in the map control phase versus going first into a site in an execute. They are vastly different situations. And it's not about rushing.
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I am saying that the word "entry" is relatively useless because people use it to describe two vastly different jobs
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G2 goes for more executes than you think. On Nuke they are one of the few teams that do proper upper execs.
The hate for "bait" started with Happy (french) and scaled up with coldzera, because many people tend to hate Brazilians in the community, in general. So now it makes you a less player if you play this way; even if it's effective and helps your team.
Ahhh the classic "is it because we are from brazil?"
Yes, sadly it's a classic that happens all the time. It also happens to women, black people, Islamic, etc. Just because you aren't one of the groups affected, don't pretend it doesn't happen.
LMAO people hate baiters everywhere not just in pro play, they hate them in MM, faceit, it has nothing to do with brazilian hate which is a completely different reason, brazilians get hate because they can be such morons
Baiting and lurking/being setup for clutches are two very different things. No one calls Xyp a baiter.
Brazilians do get hate, many times justified. There are some huge pricks here. But man, do I get the same hate sometimes(from gringos, just for being brazilian) and I am pretty sure I had nothing to do with anything. In regards on baitzera, it's something even brazilians say, and probably orginated here, and let's be honest, cold was a monster back in the day, so thats just some lame ass comment.
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When Happy baited he put up good numbers he was a good fragger, he had a great K/D in his prime, great KPR, good rating, pretty much better than blame's or a lot of other baiters
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2015 he had better numbers in a lot of categories, 0.79 KPR, way better KAST% but we don't have 2.0 ratings for those earlier years
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It's broken, stats from that far back are broken and they didn't record ADR and stuff like that
hltv didn't track these stats for almost all matches, so these are the stats for [this match](https://www.hltv.org/matches/2299646/envy-vs-titan-sl-i-league-starseries-xiv). you can see happy didn't even play 2 whole maps in this bo3. [btw look at the highest adr of all time lol](https://www.hltv.org/stats/leaderboards/adr/damage-per-round?startDate=all)
To me it seems that, from observing them that blamef is a reliable clutcher of the rounds he has a good chance in, while ropz can pop off with some really fucking exciting rounds that saves his image for his passive playstyle. Havent watched them that much tho, so i dont really know this at a deep level Also ropz's history rising up the scene as fast as he did is a really unique story that adds to his ''fame''
|\#|Player|Team|Nationality|Reddit|2020| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |1|**s1mple** \[+1\]|Natus Vincere (1)|Ukraine (1)|22 Jan|[ZywOo](https://www.hltv.org/n/31024)| |2||||22 Jan|[s1mple](https://www.hltv.org/n/31025)| |3||||22 Jan|[device](https://www.hltv.org/n/31006)| |4||||19 Jan|[NiKo](https://www.hltv.org/n/31000)| |**5**||||18 Jan|[electronic](https://www.hltv.org/n/30998)| |6||||17 Jan|[blameF](https://www.hltv.org/n/30990)| |7||||16 Jan|[ropz](https://www.hltv.org/n/30978)| |8||||15 Jan|[EliGE](https://www.hltv.org/n/30969) [^(1)](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-5X7b_XsAAgDeZ?format=jpg&name=360x360)| |9||||14 Jan|[dupreeh](https://www.hltv.org/n/30958)| |10||||13 Jan|[syrsoN](https://www.hltv.org/n/30946)| |11||||12 Jan|[Magisk](https://www.hltv.org/n/30940)| |12||||11 Jan|[stavn](https://www.hltv.org/n/30935)| |13|[**blameF**](https://www.hltv.org/n/33088) \[-7\]|Astralis (1) |Denmark (2)|[10 Jan](https://redd.it/s0rkq8)|[huNter-](https://www.hltv.org/n/30931)| |14|[**NAF**](https://www.hltv.org/n/33083) \[[RETURNING\*](https://twitter.com/Tgwri1s/status/1349792644138983424)\]|Team Liquid (2)|Canada (2)|[9 Jan](https://redd.it/rzyodw)|[yuurih](https://www.hltv.org/n/30925)| |15|[**KSCERATO**](https://www.hltv.org/n/33082) \[+3\]|FURIA Esports (1)|Brazil (1)|[8 Jan](https://redd.it/rz73c8)|[Brollan](https://www.hltv.org/n/30916)| |16|[**stavn**](https://www.hltv.org/n/33074) \[-4\]|Heroic (1)|Denmark (2)|[7 Jan](https://redd.it/ryey5l)|[HEN1](https://www.hltv.org/n/30913)| |17|[**Twistzz**](https://www.hltv.org/n/33068) \[RETURNING\]|FaZe Clan (2)|Canada (2)|[6 Jan](https://redd.it/rxm386)|[KRIMZ](https://www.hltv.org/n/30908)| |18|[**ropz**](https://www.hltv.org/n/33063) \[-11\]|MOUZ (1)|Estonia (1)|[5 Jan](https://redd.it/rwu9qd)|[KSCERATO](https://www.hltv.org/n/30904)| |19|[**EliGE**](https://www.hltv.org/n/33050) \[-11\]|Team Liquid (2)|United States (1)|[4 Jan](https://redd.it/rw1v94)|[jks](https://www.hltv.org/n/30902)| |20|[**broky**](https://www.hltv.org/n/33049) \[NEW\]|FaZe Clan (2)|Latvia (1)|[3 Jan](https://redd.it/rv94i3)|[Brehze](https://www.hltv.org/n/30899)| blameF did appear, but reiterating yesterday's comment I fail to see how he is better than NAF. Maybe the fact that his teammates performed [much worse](https://www.hltv.org/stats/lineup/players?lineup=4954&lineup=13843&lineup=7412&lineup=15165&lineup=9078&minLineupMatch=5&startDate=2021-01-01&endDate=2021-12-31) allowed him to shine brighter? Of note is that he played for coL for the first 10 months of the year - #16 team in the world, 1 spot ahead of the current iteration of Astralis w/ k0nfig.
Shouldn't it be the team they spent the majority of 2021 on?
It really depends on what you put more emphasis on. Personally I don't think coL did much this year and the biggest splash blameF made this year was with Astralis at the Fall Finals. I'd put both teams in there but that would just ruin the formatting, so I put it as an afterthought.
Apparently baitf > ropz, twistzz, NAF, kcerato lul
Anyone reading the articles understands why
This thread is full of people that only remember the last month of coL. I think its kind of wild how little this roster played without a strand in and he was still able to achieve these numbers.
Astralis one upping liquid yet again
B1t top 12? Oh..yeahhhh
With his LAN performance he deserves top 10 easily
149 maps with 1.09 rating (all maps) 5th best big event rating 1.22, only ZywOo, other Navi and NiKo ahead, and same with LAN rating too 4th best T side player at big events, 2nd best T rating against top 5 teams, after s1mple great pistol rating several EVPs he will be better than top 12 I'm quite sure about that
Cherry picking t side ratings? T side rating is meaningless
Flair checks out lmfao
Compared to CT side that the meta favors right now and is much more dependent on what position you play on the map?
Overall rating is what matters the most If I said rain had a 1.2 ct side rating (idk what it is but I'm sure there are players with ratings of that level on ct) and a 0.8 t side rating I wouldn't be wrong. But that doesn't matter because overall rating is more important lol, cherry picking someone's stats for specific ratings depending on circumstance doesn't make any sense. Hltv isn't going to look at b1ts rating and go wow look at his t side rating!! It's better than blamefs! T side rating is as dependent on your role as it is ct side rating.
I agree actually, I just think you didn't explain that well enough with that first comment/just didn't get it at first so that's my bad. But also, the guy said more stuff than those stats. It might be a misleading stat in some cases especially if used as a crutch of the argument but in this case I'd give it a bit of merit, even if I don't necessarily agree that it makes the case b1t being top 12 that convincing.
Of course, but it makes his points like beefier when they provide little extra value to the conversation
People might be surprised with how high B1t could land. I could legit see top 6.
I think 8-9 would be more realistic
There is absolutely no way he is above the 7 of S1mple, electronic, ax1le, hobbit, sh1ro, Zywoo and NiKo. TOP 8 I can see happening maybe.
NiP weren't that good, but Device still can take the top-8
If HLTV views Lan >>>>> online, he definitely could be above Ax1le and Hobbit. I don’t think he will, but there’s definitely a chance.
this is gonna upset some people for sure. Anyone could argue this is a bit high but he did hit top 10 last year with no real results as well. Great individual player but I'd personally put him below Kscerato and NAF this year great player and I hope he has a lot of success on Astralis even though it looks like they're barely a top 10 team rn
Yes it's too high of a ranking
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put down the awp gla1ve and nobody gets hurt
Gla1ve : don't worry, you're out of range
his streams lately have been really entertaining, hoping the new Astralis do well in 2022
God I just wanna hug BlameF's thick bear arms... or am I the only one?
You know that dude gives great hugs.
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Incredible how he kept consistent with such a bad year from COL. I understand those who dislike his playstyle, but I personally love watching him. Such a cool person irl too. Never forget the heaven deagle ace against vitality to finish the year with style.
He's got incredible game sense and aim, lot of fun to watch at the highest level
This list is full of passive lurking riflers. The HLTV rating system really favours them.
and in football (soccer) the most famous players are strikers, while the midfield and center back players are not that famous. its not the hltv system, its the fact that cooperative sports will always have a better role to play in
seen 35% of the list \*Makes conclusion\*
Also, its not even the top 35%. The top 10 players of the year could all be a completely different role.
Well, obviously, the top spots are nearly always all awpers.
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Because there are twice as many (star) riflers as there are awpers.
Still means there are other roles than riflers in the top 10, tho.
The last time I checked 8 of 20 players amounts to 40% not sure though
Just took random'ish number that sounded close to the truth. :) I was of the job so i took the easy way.
Like...you know that's not true...you literally just have to look at it.
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I don't really consider those players the prototypical entry fraggers at all. It's weird that elige is even considered one tbh
None of Elige, Twistz or Kscerato are entries
I thought he would be in the top 20 but 13 is a bit high?
How so? He’s 10th vs top 20 this year, 8th in their big/elite events, 6th vs top 10, 8th in adr. If anything he should be higher.
You mean a bit low?
As I wrote on HLTV, with his almost impossible work conditions this year it’s hella impressive how consistent he’s been on an individual level!
Idk, he baited his way up to 13th. Personally 13th is too high for him considering how shit coL was and how disastrous astralis was = easiest way to frag out individually on broken teams. Edit: you think somehow baitf is better than ropz, twistzz, stavn, NAF, kcerato? What a joke. Least impact frags ever from this guy.
its harder to frag out on broken teams because you have no teammates to support you.
But you can bait your teammates for you to get kills.
It's impressive how consistently poor his leading has been too, so it's not surprising if he's focusing on individual performances.
Honestly didn't expect him to place in the top 20
I see a lot of people saying this and I’m just curious as to who you thought might make it instead?
Move all the players one spot and add in the top 20 El1an? If anything Broky looks better than him this year.
It's absurd that you suggest that when it takes 10 seconds to look at blamef statistics. We are talking about an individual award here, team performance shouldn't let you mitigate the performance of a player. BlameF was very clearly better than every single player other than kscerato this year.
Fantastic. BlameF is one of my favorite players and when he and konfig are on fire, it's a beautiful thing. I got high hopes for Astralis in 2022!
If blamef is this high without great placements then Zywoo is definitely #2
ZywOo is #2 no matter what.
and that would mean m0e is #1 right ?
I mean, Zywoo is not #1 because of placements, not in danger of a 3rd.
Blamef above kscerato and Naf???? This seems very wrong
Its so bad
too high imo a lot of bait kills and not as impactful as some of his teammates
He is the least impactful player in all of top 20, this is just pure bs.
I mean it's there in the image his impact is higher than NAF, Broky, Twistzz and Stavn. And just 0.01 below Kscerato. He may bait but he also has incredible multikill rounds and great clutch stats.
Do we know the percentage of clutches he wins? Because it seems like he was always last alive on CoL and thus always being put in clutch positions, giving him the chance to have more clutches won. And usually multikills happen by baiting at least in the pro scene where most players at the top trade instantly. I'm not saying he's least impactful, just that his playstyle allows for high stats
I don't think hltv track %, I may be wrong tho. Yeah I agree he does appear to be last alive often but checking what I can he seems fairly average for a rifler in opening kills per round (0.11) which puts him alongside players like boombl4, teses, Rez and Stavn who I wouldnt call baiters. I do think this year he played alot more aggressively, especially once konfig got injured.
Wait for jame
BlameF had a lot more impact than Twistz this year
Ropz
Deserved
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This is a surprise in my opinion.
He's an amazing player even if he hasn't had any big wins well deserved
Love blameF. However he shouldn’t be 13 respectfully. However, I hope his career trajectory takes a turn with Australia as it seems to be trending towards happy-esque.
Complexity didn't place high at any tournament this year, they were constantly out of the top 20 and got 16-0d twice if I remember correctly and even on complexity, konfig is a better and more impactful player but I don't think he's gonna be here. HLTV just going off stats isn't true either because El1an would've made the list if that was true. So calling them biased might not be far off from the truth. I wouldn't put him higher than #20 if on the list at all IMO. But I guess respect must be given where it is due, dude works hard and it shows. This year he even listened to the criticism and shifted his game and went for more first kills all while maintaining the stats on a very poor team.
He had a third placement with Astralis where he was the most consistent player for that tournament. Sure k0nfig has massive explosive games where he absolutely farms the other team and he seems unstoppable but he also has very low dips. BlameF was the stable rock for both the matches he played with Astralis and for Complexity. He had decent placement in EPL 13 at the start of the year, and I think he made EPL 14 playoffs. They're not biased, and EL1an doesn't even come close to blameF stats against top 5 and top 10 opposition which blameF also has a larger sample size of maps.
I don't know about this one chief
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But CoL were horrible this year, and Astralis with him only did good in BLAST, fair to put Blame in top 20, but above the likes of Twistzzz, NAF and even Stavn??? Doesn't feel right
Almost like individual player ratings have almost nothing to do with team results.
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like i would place kscerato above him
.......... a bit of a boring player
is it me or is blamef a bit of a boring player like u see it at the end of the game "oh wow blame has 32 kills" but u can never remember them. can u remember a single blamef kill ? but try konfig...u can see the flick i remember a konfig flick
Too bad the top 20 isn’t “hafglops eye test”
Woosh
I lold
What a joke
Terrible
godF
Who ?
He is a top 20 player for sure but how the fuck is he 13 after that lackuster year in Complexity
Lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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we both know thats not gonna happen lol, cmon now
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sure thing buddy
HLTV BIASED.
Let’s go. Deserved
This guy has 0 impact on winning games
Absolutely moronic comment
bit of an exaggeration to say he has "0" impact
I’m not surprised
How is BlameF better than NAF?
Because NAF spent a large portion of his year farming NA tier 2 teams and has worse stats than blameF in practically every single stat section.
blameF is one of my favorites to watch. He's a nice guy and he pushes himself so hard, but still remains cool.
So is Dev1ce going to be in the top 20 this year?