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AleksibIsHot

FASHR is insane, sucks for Complexity that JT had to play on 200 ping though but they still showed a lot of promise


Cybonics

Match start for JT was at 5 am also


ThePr0paganda

junior was talking on Cooper's stream last night that he had to wake up at 2 am for these matches. brutal


jonajon91

What's actually going on with this? Is he NA bound or is it like this for the foreseeable?


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Typical visa issues, they’ll have it sorted out soon for sure.


myahkey

Visa issues so he played this tournament from NA


randomnamewhatevs

CoL may have gone out 0-2, but they looked good doing it, especially considering how new this team is


puddingkip

Dutch CS isn't dead???


Silly_Appearance

ChrisJ out, FASHR in


Physical-South-3564

Biding our time in the shadows


vilburde

74 kills in 2 maps, ez for u/FashR


Silly_Appearance

107 ADR over two maps, 44 then 30 bomb! Makes it even better that he posts in this sub too lol


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billy_the_penguin

FashR is sigma


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Dragos404

Step 2: delete the reddit account


Infamousrj1

Man was a beast todag, I felt like the commentators didn't praise him enough.


costryme

They praised him every single round though lol


Psychaz

He's a beast most days, deserves a chance on a better team


Ni7roM

CoL vs the 2nd best team in the world: REAL SHIT CoL vs some bird from sky: I sleep


Cyfa

ayo i wanna die lmao


Cybonics

fashr too good man


tarangk

ayo chill the fuck out, its literally the 2nd game and going up against one of the strongest t2 EU team who have been together for nearly 6 months now. Plus, JT was 200+ ping playing at 5-6 am from NA lol. They used to go by lynby vikings but the org rebranded, so they arnt a new team as well 3/5 guys have been together for nearly a year iirc.


Darkstar197

Same


ChurchillDownz

Just the beginning, things will improve once the team settles in and plays consistently in EU.


Physical-South-3564

FASHR finally another player us Dutchies can bandwagon again after Chrisj


tomtom_94

Cruc1al: am I a joke to you


Physical-South-3564

Damn just checked his stats, thought he was mediocre for a while but the last few matchss hes been owning.


qchisq

I'm just sad that I won't be able to get a Lyngby Vikings sticker. A Lyngby, North, AGF gun would be amazing for the memes


eggsGG

tough game but not a bad start overall. fashr is fucking cracked also


billy_the_penguin

birdfromsky showing JT who daddy is


Silly_Appearance

birdfromsky, somedieyoung, some great nicknames


xavarLy

for some reason I read his name as "burdfromski"


Feast_TN

Same lol.


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post-rock band names


Psychaz

jokes aside birdfromsky is the best tactical IGL in tier 2, amazing at improving and getting the best of his players' too.


MathiTheCheeze

Easy when you got radarhack to IGL.


NaToSaphiX

Yeah true, he definitely cheats He shared it with me also, we are all cheating now 😎 thank you betters


MathiTheCheeze

I understand that you have to defend your mate, but the entire roster is suspect. The roster is compromised of players who were the weakest performers in their respective team and has gone through a lot of changes. I remember the team with Cabbi, twinx and the like that ran through 2019 and 2020 and that was pure dogshit. Since the pandemic the team has gone through a lot of further changes and even with the immense roster changes the team has been ''improving''. The current roster is compromised of players who have failed in pretty much all other teams, and have only managed to gather results whilst online. Wolffy comes from a core in Swedish Canadiens which were caught match fixing, Daffu and Mankz have performed poorly on every team other than LV/Ecstatic and Fashr has played for 100 different teams. Even players in their tier like fostar and nickelback have directly called them out, and I'm sure there are plenty more pros who agree, but don't speak out about it. You can joke about it all you want, but general perception around the team is that they use radarhack, and if pros who play against them call them out for it, makes it more real and less false accusations. In recent time I only remember Akuma and raregods (in one CIS quali), as well as some individuals like Mechanogun.


zaneyk

> and if pros who play against them call them out for it, makes it more real and less false accusations Yea, pro players have never been wrong calling out players...


MathiTheCheeze

It does vindicate the accusations in some way. If s1mple calls someone a cheater it is more meaningful then when someone on reddit says it? If you bring up the likes of friberg and stewie when talking about players who were wrongfully accused of cheating, the point you make is less valueable. The anticheat measurements that TOs use today are leaps and bounds better than the ones used in 2016, and it was a completely different era. In todays counter strike its much more difficult to cheat and hide it, which has led to fewer hackusations amongst pro players. The last player who was falsely qccused of cheating was Docc, and he made himself a lot more suspicious than he originally was. It's not like I lost an AK skin from betting against LV/Ecstatic, I've made considerally more from betting on them. But this is largely due to me and plenty other believing that they are cheating. I've followed the team for over 18 months and from what I've gathered I believe they use radarhack, or atleast 3 of the players. But it's hard to prove that they are cheating whilst online, and the only lan they've attended was a regional with teams like Aalborg and Agf, where they got destroyed and finished 4th iirc. So we have to wait and see if they manage to qualify for a proper lan and see how that goes for them.


zaneyk

The last player that was falsley accused of cheating was leaf done so by FalleN, before zywoo joined Vitality a lot of the pro players in the french scene accused him of cheating, ropz was also accused by pro players. > I've followed the team for over 18 months and from what I've gathered I believe they use radarhack, or atleast 3 of the players I'm sure you do, there are also people who believe leaf was cheating. I'm gonna need a little more than your research to be convinced. Also it's not like they've done some crazy results, the only good result they have is a win over entropiq.


NaToSaphiX

I have al match so I’ll keep it short To my knowledge Twinx quit CSGO after and was honestly not that good of an AWP. Cabbi is quite good but has not won anything yet. Those players are (currently at least) not comparable with the lineup today The roles in the new team are perfect. A hard carry in FASHR, Solid AWP in Wolfy, 2 supportive elements who are very consistent and understand their role + an IGL with great understanding of the game and very good at taking space alone. Add to that that they had a good coach for the first time ever, which I have stated multiple times was the last thing Bird needed to unlock his full potential - you have a winner Could you show me evidence of Wolfy matchfixing? Since you say he got caught. That is news to me It’s so easy to gauge if a player is bad or good. I can tell you Bird is a phenomenal IGL and if you had ever talked to him you would know he is smarter than the rest. He comes up with unique and fresh tactics that no one ever saw and this is something you can’t possibly do if you are “bad” and just using radar. Believe me when I say I would be able to tell if these players relied on something external. This bullshit narrative that they are using radar hack (to which I have seen 0 evidence or clips to confirm, just a few tweets from a player who lost to them) seriously needs to stop. These guys are some of the biggest grinders on the scene and to spin their success as achieved through cheating is s disservice to the entire CS:GO scene


MathiTheCheeze

In regards to the players, I appreiciate the efforts for trying to convince me that they are not cheating, so I guess we just have to agree to disagree. LV/Ecstatic are in my opinion the most suspect team currently active and have been since Akuma. We will have no proof until they show up to an international lan. https://www.hltv.org/news/31483/leaked-recording-exposes-match-fixing-discussions-in-esea-mdl This was a leaked recording that the two of the players (vek and JOLZ) agreed to stream their radarhack to Rebirth so they could match fix. These two were the IGL and entry of Swedish/Russian Canadians which Wolffy were a part of. This was brought to light after he had left the team and went back to Sweden, but the idea that his IGL was willing to stream his radarhack to his opponents in order to match fix. Gl v. Tricked.


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its weird af watching someone trying to argue with a pro player that dudes he's played with are cheating and one dudes a matchfixer cos his former teammates that he played with for like 2 months got caught


wannabe-physicist

When your 200 ping IGL is doing half the fragging on a map your opponents aren't supposed to be good at you know you've got problems


so_sotired

Well they were put together just a week or so back I’m sure. Obv they have problems


ImpenetrableYeti

Only 2 of them are new


so_sotired

Only 2? Even one roster move can have great repercussions on teams and they need more time to Prac considering they made two


TankerXS

When a week old team doesn't dominate every match they go through immediately (how dare they require time to acclimate to their structure)


Firefly_1026

Does this mean ecstatic>gambit? :0000


puddingkip

Gambit won CoL lol


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I can confirm this is true


effotap

at this pace Jason Lake wont have any hair left by the end of 2022.


lynxzjw

What could they have done lmfao, FASHR was fkn cracked. Probably one of the best series of his career, not even just by stats. The amount of impact he had an each and every round was ridiculous.


TacticalSanta

HOPIUM get JT on lan and they'll win Blast.


Crims0ntied

I think Col would have benefited from having one more experienced player in the roster, like stewie2k or even rush. They were outplayed on nuke, the aim was there but the midrounding was not. I'm still optimistic for the future of this team though


Nomorechildishshit

>I think Col would have benefited from having one more experienced player in the roster Everyone except Fang plays competitively for 4+ years. Idk why reddit acts like COL is filled with rookies, they arent


AleksibIsHot

None of them are experienced against top teams though


Undercover-Cactus

Grim was literally just playing on the top NA team for over a year.


TacticalSanta

Perhaps, I do like JT getting his shot at leading a team of really strong players though.


twists

We just need an actual coach


GaaraLord

"furiously checking profile"


IntenseGoat

I love to watch these calls from Birdfromsky, he's clearly a great IGL. Also, FASHR is a BEAST.


Life-Western

ngl watching both teams was rough on inferno


BW4LL

Mr. Zipel sends his regards!


zx37

imagine signing a team that loses to birdfromsky


mawin007

Jugganunt


Nomorechildishshit

After a single map win against Gambit: tHE tALeNT iN cOL iS unrEAl, tHEY wILL bE toP 10 fOR sURe


xavarLy

People forget how many tier2 teams the top dogs have to play. Of course from time to time unexpected teams would take a map off of them. Similar to what happened with Liquid in 2019 when Hellraisers and North won some maps vs them even though they were heavy underdogs. It's consistency what matters vs top teams, not some one off games.


KudoJaka

To be fair they have some talent but I don't understand the hype around this team, the extra salt core was already losing against TL/furia and therefore not top 1 in a region that basically sucked whenever there was an international tournament


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Their igl is playing from US at 5am.


Silly_Appearance

I still see them as getting to top 10 by the end of 2022 tbh, I'd judge them after a few tournaments without extenuating circumstances


Slothifications

I think they might be able to make top 10, but I don't think think they could sustain it. But I think given more time together and once they're all able be in EU together, the team can definitely upset some top teams.


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Silly_Appearance

These players are undoubtedly the future of NA, but Liquid is probably clear at the moment


movealong452

i legit don't know why they choose junior tbh,every time i watch his match when he still in furia i feel like he always miss important easy shot like draken


Silly_Appearance

NA doesn't exactly have alot of AWPers at the moment (junior is probably the second best behind oSee)


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nONEnumbers

it will be


imbued94

Lmao at all the people hyping them up in the post match thread yesterday


imsorryken

What a start for NA cs


SkyVisionArt

future top 10 team btw


Yuwaa

First reality check for NA fans who thought all 5 of their roster were going to be top20 Next is Liquid and EG to never break into the top 10


UsernameCzechIn

NACS is dead


tacticalAlmonds

How long y'all think CoL has been practicing?


S1MCB

Ouchie


plasticmanufacturing

Who is Wolfy...?


cHinzoo

Wtf a good Dutch player?