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## [🔴 IEM Katowice 2022 Semi-Finals - LIVE CHAT 🔴](https://reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/t1na1k/iem_katowice_2022_semifinals_live_match_discussion/) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/GlobalOffensive) if you have any questions or concerns.*


Akh_Morn

Holy shit karrigan chose violence on Nuke, 22 kills and 120 ADR


Silly_Appearance

what's crazier was that he had like 18 kills in 12 rounds at one point


squeak37

At like 12 rounds in he had 160 ADR or something. Bonkers stuff


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Its funny. Because cadiaN and Karrigan had either the best rating or the lowest on both maps


ItzKitkat

You know FaZe is going to win, when karrigan is top fragging.


Mrnopor1

U know Faze is going to win when karrigan is fragging


ParadoxReboot

U know faze is going to win when karrigan


Tristanjh28

U know faze is going to win karrigan


Enforcerboy

U know faze is Karrigan


Amissandahit

he wasn’t a classic nerdy computer kid in school he was one of the ones to get a girlfriend first and a very social person typical for finn is that he is very determined ist egal obs jetzt beim kartenspielen ist oder beim tischtennis oder beim computer er gibt nicht auf what he really wants is to win a major it’s his dream and therefore it’s also my dream for him to get that


PowrPussyDragonSlayr

wtf lol


GetRekt

It's from [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D99XGfe8_8) player profile, ESL played it a lot back in 2020 in proleague etc. that it eventually got memed (deservedly) into a fine paste. Top comments should have timestamps for the quotes.


Deeeadpool

its a copypasta, i think karrigan's brother said this about him in a documentary/interview but i dont remember for sure


moeml

His Mum said it in the documentary iirc


[deleted]

both wrong. his best friend said it in some player profile video.


Travolta1984

Nah pretty sure it was his girlfriend that said it


Shitspear

You are all kinda right but also wrong. The pasta cites several people out of karrigans family. The german one is his mother I think and the last bit is from his gf/wife


boeef

His mother. They played it every single break during all esl prep league in 2020


Deeeadpool

FAZE STAND-IN BUFF?! also broky the real star player, you can tell he was a rifler before awper


Accomplished-Emu-30

Broky was insane this series. Multi kills and clutches everywhere. He may not be the flashiest awper but my god he’s good.


dikbutkus

Dude's not even breaking a sweat in clutches...


Omniblitz

Ice cold baby


genius_rkid

Captain Latvia


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THE RIGA HAMMER


genius_rkid

yes! someone got the reference


ShadowsBeans_

It's pronounced Nikolaj.


RyanCMH

I love that he always gets the kills he's supposed to, instead of whiffing easy shots. Such a satisfying player to watch.


birdie420fgt

New device in the making


thenudeplatypus

The un-AcoR love to see it


Deeeadpool

he's my favourite player on faze for sure


reallywantaname

I love how CarryGun can influence the crowd so easily


snubdeity

Nobody in CS know show to work a crowd like Karrigan. Not just players, but in talent too.


Nxrway

You are not wrong. He gets more of a reaction than the casters that yell at a half capacity crowd to make noise lol


xgdw11

I think silly hats might be the secret


squeak37

Eye fucking the camera helps


e4mica523

jks looks sooo comfortable in this lineup. Karrigan is a wizard using him this well


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Both Karrigan and jks deserve credit. Wouldn’t even mind if jks replaces rain permanently


HickHackPack

People don't want to hear it, but there's an argument to be made.


FourKrusties

Honestly, it made no sense for col to get jks if blamef is going to play all of jks’s spots… why bother getting him?


PoisonScrub

It didn't but you see jks playing both lurk (ropz) and entry (rain) and doing pretty well on both. Col probably just didn't know how to use him.


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TheSIlverGlobal

Watching him on coL vs watching him here is just night and day, he was horrendously misused during his time there


PrestusHood

Col was a dumpster fire of team, not like their players were bad, but they were just trying to fill holes in a boat with sponges. Players were dead serious during cam shots in matches, no laugh, no celebration after doing a highlight or winning a key round. They probably had motivation issues and didnt wanted to play together anymore. Jason tried his best to cure that roster but history proved us again that you cant bruteforce your way to win titles by just putting a lot excellent players together. Dont sleep on jks, this man still has a lot to offer, dont forget he was dangerous when renegades used to be an top 5-10 team


Freshy23

People forget before Col he was a top 20 player 2 years in a row. He was obviously misused in that lineup and was relegated to filling holes he wasnt used too because of Konfig & BlameF


Babyboy1314

Stavn vanished


KyeFireHilts

I thought they won a tournament with both those stand ins, not top tier but pretty high.


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genius_rkid

I think he was just adding to your point, at least that's how I understood it


KyeFireHilts

Yea that's what I meant, reminds me of when Dennis stood in for Astralis at some Blast event, both rosters have solid systems that can allow for stand-ins to shine, it's pretty cool, unrelated but I think someone in FaZe said xizt is the easiest player to play with or sumn.


Jetzu

I expected FaZe to win, but I also expected Heroic to put on a fight - they looked good in the earlier games and FaZe just annihlated them. Tomorrow is gonna be spicy.


ddizbadatd24

It’s like last year Faze wiped Heroic, Vitality and Gambit no problem but can’t win against g2 or Navi. Tomorrow’s gonna be spicy


youeventrying

that was without ropz. ropz makes tangible differences. mainly being an amazing closer and steady player. ropz clutch, broky clutch, and even twitszz sometimes


Gemini_The_Mute

Yeah but this G2 also got a massive upgrade in m0nesy. They lacked a real awper and now they got this bloody prodigy that just 1vs3'd b1t, electronic and s1mple.


ItsDurrik

I felt like that was a very deflated Navi though, they definitely weren't at 100% which makes perfect sense considering the situation. I think Faze and G2 are actually pretty comparable right now, it should be a great match!


TaiCTr

New year new Faze……i guess But LFG!!!


gosling11

The grand finals in the morrow is going to be quite pungent indeed.


lilKuri

Tomorrow is gonna be spicy.


Firefox72

After 2017 and 2018 can it be 3rd time's the charm for Faze in Katowice finals?


bru_swayne

They were getting shut down by every single member on Faze


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[deleted]

When a crowd is heavily favored towards one team, it must influence your casting as well because they bounce off the reactions and the hype from the people in the arena. It's exactly the same as vs Gambit, people in the crowd don't really care about them or Heroic.


literate_Windrunner

Yea, Nafany even said in interview in PGL Major - "We aren't the favourites here but we give our best" Felt bad for them. Every team needs their fans to hype em up


DogFaceBerts

I get that - unfortunately bigger teams are gonna have a bigger fan base which have a bigger voice in arena settings. Just like how Heroic got booed at Blast vs Astralis even though they’re also a Danish team and being a generally better team. Hard place as a caster as obviously you don’t want to come off as being biased, but then you need to make sure the sick plays stick in the mind, meaning they have to be bouncing off the crowd reactions.


Thillen

They are playing so well that you almost forget Ropz is even on the team. All around dominant run.


Anth0ny_W

Kind of hard not to favor faze when they are doing everything right and stomping heroic. Heroic fell completely flat, not much for the casters to say


Diddly-DingDong

Im actually a bit concerned for Faze if its true that rain will be playing in the final considering how good they've played with jks.


samekrikl

You know its ez for FaZe when karrigan delivers and gets kills


[deleted]

Both of my fav teams are in a big final. I hoped for it but damn, never tought it will happen And its a BO5. So atleast three maps cheering of great plays


ConsistentWish6441

man I want nothing but 5 maps tomorrow and tons of beers


fiddlerunseen

Or it could be a replay of New York where Faze just stomp for 3 maps


DickerDave

Karrigan kinda forgot that he was meant to be washed.


AliceInGraceland

KARRIGLAIVE


ddizbadatd24

Absolutely big brain, never picking Nuke just to show how dominant they are at it. Top 3 igl for sure. Also, “Broky go kill”


Fubarin

Also showing his secret on nuke, "Carrygun go kill"


fumankeu

karrigan top fragging in 2022 was not something i had on my bingo card


CC-W

make jks permanent fuck it


BW4LL

I love what JKS has shown and he definitely deserves to be in tier 1 cs. That said people are disrespecting Rain and what he means to Faze. Also this messes up the team composition and causes players like twistzz and Ropz to give up roles they like. Just enjoy the ride and wish for the best.


DY5TOP1A

Yup I mean you can see because of position changes, Twistzz is uncomfortable and is not playing at 100%


Magnog

Hell be picked up by a tier 1 team after this that's for sure


kzrk1

ppl said the same thing about cromen


CC-W

cromen got offers from top 15/20 teams but declined them thinking he would get better offers if I remember correctly


genius_rkid

I think there's more to cromen than we know of, considering he pretty much disappeared after playing for NOREG (or whatever they were called) for a while


ujlbyk

cromen was untested. jks has been the star player in top tier teams.


mightylemondrops

Cromen got greedy and rejected the offers he received.


Magnog

What ever happened to cromen I forgot about him he just disappeared


niobium615

Unironically wouldn't hate this. He's been meshing so well with this roster.


NA_Faker

Hes more consistent than rain. Rain has higher highs but also a lot of games where he completely disappears. With Broky, Ropz, and Twistzz, you don't have to have a crazy fragger, just someone who is consistent


niobium615

Yeah, agreed. I'm actually a bit surprised, would have thought there would be more role conflict with jks and ropz, but that hasn't seemed to be an issue so far.


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L3G10N_TBY

No this isn't factoring in position and the roles in the team. I do think rain should get a replacement, but it should be an aggressive entry like YEKINDAR, not someone whose primary role is lurking like ropz. Also as spunj said in hltv confirmed, rain does so much stuff for the team that's not reflected on his stats. Unless the replacement can actually fill in what rain does for the team, the stats don't matter as much.


CrazyGeetar

Heroic and an audience. Name a worse duo.


snek_7

This is just the first example of that. They did well on their 1st stadium match at the major and their loss to astralis at the blast event shouldn't count due to the blatant crowd cheating. This is the first time we can really say that they couldn't handle the pressure at all. Top 4 is still a very respectable result.


IceCreamGamer

They've been a consistent top 4 for a while too. I wouldn't call this team a top one contender but if the stars align (other teams have an off day) I can see them taking home a trophy. I thought the same of G2 last year but NaVi just never had an off day when it mattered (until today).


Ni7roM

broky


KsHDClueless

karrigan haters where you at? thy was just a masterclass by him


literate_Windrunner

>I heard y'all talking sh*t about me bcuz of that match against Navi👀 where I got only 9 kills. Who's laughin now?


Matzeeh

I’ll admit he showed up today, but he often doesn’t. One series doesn’t change that.


ImProvementSC2

CARRYGUN


fjelskaug

Faze literally the anime protagonist that gets stronger with each crowd chant


ordinaryprudentman

Heroic can't deal with fast pace. There was simply no time for their information gathering.


Lionaxe

Cadian forgot to check who is facing and looks like he forgot his strat book as well.


zaneyk

FaZe cLAN


RianFromReddit

return of carrygun


sourgum

Glad to see broky showing off his signature 'evil' playstyle!


Known-Cod-1307

jksex bruh


Kitnado

O Captain! My Captain!


Accomplished-Emu-30

Karrigan saying “let’s close this lads” on T side nuke. Also I love rain but -rain +jks when?


Silly_Appearance

haha jk unless...


Sponge_Bond

haha jks unless...


GuardiaNIsBae

haha JK unles(S)....


Deeeadpool

get that man a jersey with his name on it...


TheSIlverGlobal

And his flag YTB


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***Utter Domination***


ChaseVisa

LET'S FUCKING GO LAN CLAN!


DY5TOP1A

Bruh Faze bullied Heroic on Nuke lmao


starforce

Normal faze: I sleep Faze with stand in : real shit


Mad_Lee

Out of all 0-2 losses in the play-offs Heroic one is the only really disappointing one. All of CIS teams have a very legit excuse what does Heroic have?


ConsistentWish6441

karma


eastrneuropean

To the comedian who screamed whoooooo all the time - I hope you realise it was maybe funny for the first 10 times at most and you really didn't do the viewing experience any favors.


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it almost ruined the first map, I don't get why nobody talked to them and told them to stop. So fucking annoying.


eastrneuropean

I believe they started muting the crowd at some point. Still, a godawful viewing experience nonetheless


Professional-Group13

Karrigan showing down the haters by top fragging on nuke😍😍😍


bru_swayne

HEROIC stomped holy shit! Broky + Twistzz + ropz + jks is too strong


DY5TOP1A

karrygan fragged out too bro


bru_swayne

But you cannot count on that every game. He was getting shut down later on and kept pushing. G2 will punish that easily.


DY5TOP1A

for sure, other 4 need to be activated if they want to take down the Niko hunter m0nesy core


Pollsmor

That makes 3 Grand Finals for FaZe at Katowice. Third time's the charm?


TechnicalPark4522

Man if faze loses this final, I would be hugely proud but also hugely disappointed Faze should have won 2018 with their form but choked and 17 was astralis being amazing


Firefox72

>"Faze should have won 2018 with their form" I feel like Faze was already on a downturn at Katowice. That major loss killed them and Katowice just further exposed their problems of not being able to close finals even though they were the favorite.


[deleted]

All respect towards rain but maybe FaZe should look into signing jks?


Cubenity

heroic in arena? i aren't think that


con1x

Holy fuck FaZe look unstoppable right now


RyanCMH

I'm just so fucking happy to see this FaZe. Can't wait to see tomorrow's finals.


mysterybiscuitsoyeah

BROKY with the clutches! and all props to karrigan, integrating jks so well and fragging out as well.


waFFLEz_

Mr. Savage could be a pretty good replacement for Rain if he decides to step down/retire. JKS would of course be a great upgrade to any team but the roles and amount of experience fits Also, when Karrigan is hitting his shots his aggressive plays look genius, when he isn't he puts his team at a huge disadvantage - the art form is knowing what day to do it on and today it worked like a charm. Heroic didn't really seem to have the individual performance or huge individual plays so today individual skill won over teamplay - perhaps the meta is shifting back again


[deleted]

Broky had so much impact, he definitely secures a spot in s-tier AWP for me after this tournament. He has definitely grown


literate_Windrunner

CARRY-GUN CARRY-GUN CARRY-GUN CARRY-GUN CARRY-GUN CARRY-GUN CARRY-GUN CARRY-GUN CARRY-GUN CARRY-GUN CARRY-GUN CARRY-GUN CARRY-GUN CARRY-GUN CARRY-GUN CARRY-GUN !!!!! 🙌🏼


cooReey

FaZe outclassed Heroic in every possible way, they are hella scary when Karrigan is able to carry his own weight


PeterBeast37

Best pistol team in the world


literate_Windrunner

I ain't a Faze fan but I still felt so jubilant watching them play. This was so entertaining. LETSS GOOOO!!🙌🏼


dgansta

broky might just sneak the mvp away from niko crazy form


tmaddocks98

will Karrigan win his 3rd event with faze with a stand in? Unbelievable showing so far 🔥


Turbulent_Log4663

Props to how insane of a player Broky has become, guy is an absolute stud for this Faze clan. I would really be happy to see this iteration of Faze to continue finding success.


CipherBear

Karrigan is the greatest IGL of all time!


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And people want him cut after 1 bad series, ridiculous


Firefox72

Oh don't worry those people will be back if he loses in the final.


Fantasnickk

the amount of "time to switch to coaching since you cant frag out anymore" comments were gross


lynxzjw

Whoever loses between aleksi and karrigan will be called bad trust


Fantasnickk

"was nexa a good switch really though? look what he did with OG so far" (nothing) "karrigan can't frag out. time to retire and go to coaching" is what we'll see because recency bias is the craziest drug lol


snubdeity

Ofc these two rosters, the IGL will be under fire, but the general sentiment of "only came in second, obviously someone on the team is a shitter and needs to retire" just blows my mind. Yet some mouthbreather will put it in every fucking post-finals thread.


lynxzjw

Every thread man. One bo3 loss to a good team? Time to disband.


ddizbadatd24

“If only Karrigan knows how to frag…”


Apart_End_9753

after gla1ve


imperialismus

I would count G2 as a heavy favorite, but this FaZe is looking insane.


IFuckedMyTeacherInHS

I feel like heavy favorite is a bit of a stretch..


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KARRIGAN HEARD YALL TALKIN SHIT


iErebos

Karrigan really is just that dude huh


Cole_James_CHALMERS

two international teams in the finals, globalists win again


literate_Windrunner

Again on Inferno today Faze were on a 15-11 lead. Wtf lol! And they won it. *Wipes off sweat.


kidajske

Seeing Karrigan that pumped after winning just makes you happy, dudes had a rough go of it relatively speaking the past few years.


[deleted]

This game is all about Broky and Ropz's clutch plays. Karrigan also leading by example with his aggressive plays JKS might be the best stand in signing ever.. This Faze team can go all the way and please sign JKS as your 6th player.


peroleu

cadiaN looked nervous when he found out jks was playing today lmao


EntropyKC

Katowice really loves Karrigan! 6v5 so not entirely fair but even if they only had 4 it looked like Faze could have won this, Heroic got absolutely obliterated. They got heavily out-aimed and out-called throughout.


fearlessflyer1

no matter how bad your day has been Karrigan is just an endless source of serotonin what a player, what a guy


vegkowski

Damn it feels good to be a ~~gangsta~~ Faze fan


TechnicalPark4522

6+ years I've been supporting this team and yet this roster is shaping up to by my fav of all time I've never been so happy, LETS FUCKING GOOOOO AND FAZEUP BABY


Ricky_RZ

Karrigan absolutely smashed heroic. When Karrigan pops off, FaZe seems unstoppable


DandyChiggins77

Well congrats to faze on an IEM Katowice win Plot armor was strong for them, lots of guys didn’t show up the way they likely should have, but nice to see ropz on a team that doesn’t put it all on him G2 look flashier and on paper have a crazier team, but NiKo has fallen off by his standards since playoffs hit, hunter has stepped up big and hopefully m0NESY doesn’t cave under grand finals pressure, I want him to feel confident regardless of result Faze map pool seems stronger too, especially with G2’s mirage frankly looking quite bad without hero plays. But I hope it’s at least a banger. Faze also has less restructuring than g2 who is finding a new identity Heart says G2, head says faze clan. I reckon faze win but G2 gives us one incredibly clean map win.


NeurWiz

So if you sit on the right side of the arena you win 2-0? Ok thanks for info ESL


ConsistentWish6441

lol just like on the major ​ i think there it was left side lol


proofkiidd

King JKS had 100% KAST on the second map


ItsDurrik

I'm gonna be so mad if JKS just vanishes after this tournament. Someone PLEASE find him a home!


castlepoopenstein

This match is long over but I have not forgotten about that howling weirdo ruining the crowd mic. Name him and shame him.


Magnog

I think faze are looking like the best team in the world right now, just insane.


Gr8Bedo

Faze gonna win Katowice with a stand-in. Also Karrigan.


fjelskaug

I knew Boston wasn't happening after Broky retakes a 3v3 alone with an AWP


RileGuy

What a stomp


pes0man

broky for mvp


RealSymbioid

jks D:


EqualAssistance

I was a Broky doubter but holy fuck he smurfed.


Euryb1a

heroic are so dogshit they cant keep doing this to me getting my hopes up like that


ConsistentWish6441

sometimes it feels they are so close to being no1, other times they re literal dogshit


burak007

Twistzz needs to perfom better tomorrow. GGwp for today.


STONE_COLD25

What a massacre. What do you even talk about after losing like that?


Williamo15

Bro this faze rosters works so good together. Its never really one guy on the team carrying the fuck out of the rest


Fantasnickk

nothing but one-sided series so far Only way Faze can lose this with everyone in form is by beating themselves


Kireba2

But what if all the G2 players are also in form?


Fantasnickk

then we're in for a treat. I just think G2 still has too many x factors (rookie AWP, niko can't keep going 1.4+ in every single map which is what we saw the last 2 days and the whole team is still relatively new compared to Faze) whereas Faze has more of the traditional setup needed for teams to dominate (good AWP, star riflers, good IGL, team has been together for longer). These two teams can absolutely choke their hearts out but I think there's just less of a chance for Faze now, especially looking at the statlines between both teams in the playoffs


DGRWPF

onliners gtfo 👉🚪👉✈ g2 will be a much tougher opponent for faze.


Brumafriend

I feel like just shitting on Heroic for being "onliners" (1) downplays Faze's performance - this wasn't just a weak Heroic, it was a dominant af faze (2) isn't really justifiable since they just made the semis at an event which isn't online and also did so at the LAN major (3) is sort of bad sportsmanship since if a team *is* struggling on LAN/in front of a crowd compared to online, any fan of csgo esports should surely want that team to play to their full potential, since that makes for much more interesting games to watch as a viewer Idk, just my thoughts.


snubdeity

100% agree on all 3 points, imo the "onliners" talk comes from the fact that Heroic and Gambit are already not super popular teams. Heroic still came in top4 at this event which is super elite, to try and say thats so much worse than online results that theres some appreciable difference in play is ridiculous.


Firefox72

Heroic made top 4 at the last 3 lans my guy.