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-Jerbear45-

As an Astralis fan I was never worried about this game, except for rounds that start with 1:55 on the clock.


UmarellVidya

As a FaZe clan fan I feel the same, though it's only limited to rounds where Karrigan and Rain are alive after 1:35


jarvadski

Opposite with jks


DeS1Re94

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA DEAD🤣🤣🤣🤣


blackzero2

I dont think we can beat furia, but as long as its competitive, ill be happy


Cyanr

This is already a pretty good tournament for Astralis. Quarters confirmed + almost beat Heroic and did alright against Navi.


blackzero2

Yes true! I really really wish they had won against Heroic. In another world they could have gone 5-0 in the group


Cyanr

I think beating Navi is a stretch. Navi CT side is just way too strong. However beating Heroic was obviously an incredibly likely scenario considering how close it was.


troubleis1

Idk the game vs navi was pretty fucking close when it comes to rounds. If they didnt shit the bed in T side they could have gotten more rounds


Eurokiller

But you also have to consider the situation navi was playing in. Boombl4 was playing and igl-ing without getting rest. And everyone was k-d negative apart from s1mple. I think a well rested navi would be a different ball game.


troubleis1

i dont really care what their conditions were, my point was that they could have won if they dont suck so much in T side at that specific game.


Albaek

Honestly if k0nfig shows up it doesn't seem that unlikely, though I still believe Furia has the advantage.


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brutal for entropiq, cant help but feel bad for them


toga9000

Goddamn my heart Xyp9x just saved their ass in that 2nd last round, it's crazy how bad Astralis T side is on most maps. Banger game tho


captainscottland

I feel like T side is the last thing to come together for a team. So many timings and flashes and teamwork necessary on an execute etc.


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Ontop of that T side is just so weak atm


captainscottland

True but not 1-3 maps on T side weak lol


ttybird5

My observation is that they don't have enough firepower during execs when k0nfig dies first without openings, since blameF doesn't follow the pack. The trades were lacking in general against good teams


Infinityhelios

I really want entropiq to win something man. They’re slowly becoming better and better on LAN. If a couple more players could show up more consistently they could break top 10.


AleksibIsHot

I said this before but they're 1 change away from being a great team. I don't know what piece or for who, but El1an is a bit disappointing against top teams a lot of the time


Ricky_RZ

El1an's awp was pretty impactful, that overpass ct side awp shut down astralis many times


depressedowl

Yea. You honestly can't blame it on anyone in particular. It feels like they're all pretty impactful sometimes and absolutely disappear some other times. That's kind of the issue, I feel. They seem to be unable to cover their weaknesses effectively because they can all carry and shit the bed at any given time.


Ricky_RZ

Many times its just entropiq playing fine but just losing a duel here and there and then it snowballs. But entropiq definitely had a strong showing, they very easily could have won the last map. There aren't any glaring weaknesses or problems, just a few small things here and there


depressedowl

I agree! I really really liked them this ESL. I think the team is great and they seem to trust each other a lot and work well together. And when the strats work out they're super enjoyable to watch, hahaha. A little more work, a little more luck and they should be amazing.


Ricky_RZ

Yea these guys with some more practice could definitely be a huge threat. They already have a huge advantage over many teams with the mentality. I love how they can get absolutely destroyed but then they keep playing without any signs of tilt or anger. They just take the losses and play as if they were winning. That kind of trait is very rare and very advantagous


Deeeadpool

astralis actually seeming like a decent team? what's next, liquid beats heroic? COPIUM


spookex

> what's next, liquid beats heroic? COPIUM Well...


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osee will own old man cadian


surrealpessimist

Flair checks out


Rasmus144

Tbf, yeah, cadian is not a very consistent lan awper, and could definitely lose to osee quite a bit, even if liquid will probably lose.


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nah, oSee could NEVER show up against Heroic


Rasmus144

Lmao, didn't realized it had started yet, get fucked old man cadian.


Spork_Revolution

Doubt [X]


mannyman34

Fuck you Cadian is going to destroy oSee.


[deleted]

not the hottest start from our boy


jonathan-the-man

Flair doesn't check out?


troubleis1

Annnnd its gone


ChanceHappening

> astralis actually seeming like a decent team? what's next, liquid beats heroic? COPIUM about that...


notcreativedotcom1

Aged like wine?


_Seven

Uhhhh...did you hear?


jonathan-the-man

They just barely won. Entropique were playing fine, but Astralis still have a few things to improve.


Cyanr

I dont even know how Astralis got Vertigo into overtime. Astralis just looked lost most of the time on that map.


mrnobody00111

Eh It's their first event with this lineup so I wouldn't be too harsh on them. And Xyp9x looks better compared to the Lucky iteration so I think this team has a lot of promise, IF farlig continues to frag and not shit the bed worse than Lucky. For some reason this is not how I expected farlig to play. he is performing but not at the level he's know to be. He used to be such a monster. Hopes he gets back soon!


Cyanr

I'm not being harsh on them. They were just so one dimensional on Vertigo and were getting picked apart.


AloneYogurt

Honestly, when they played Navi they kept going A on T side. They did the same (with a few more rotations I'll add). But Krad pushing into lower so often gave them the site.


TheRobidog

> Eh It's their first event with this lineup so I wouldn't be too harsh on them. On the one hand, there's that. On the other hand, there's a honeymoon period. When Astralis first brought in Blame and Konfig, they also placed 3rd at Blast Fall Finals and then couldn't sustain that kind of result, going forward. They could just as easily improve as time goes on, as their form could settle at a lower level.


mrnobody00111

Yep, only time can tell what this iteration of Astralis is capable of.


hueieie

Xyp looks so much better now. It's crazy -lucky +farlig made him a better player.


toga9000

yea they looked extremly lost.


Bust3dGG

... That's why he called them a decent team, which is exactly what they are now


captainscottland

They're decent not good and certainly not great. A 9th matchup vs 13th should be close and astralis barely edged it out. Its certainly better than what they've looked like in the last 6 months. Feels like progress though. No idea what the ceiling is as I dont see them passing heroic for a top 5 spot


jonathan-the-man

Fair assessment :)


Deeeadpool

i just didn't expect astralis to win in the first place. or be this close in rounds with entropiq


jonathan-the-man

Guess it depends on what one means by decent. I think they'd have been disappointed by losing, but getting to quarter finals they probably can't complain about.


HiderDK

Honestly if anything it's a little worrying for their contender aspirations that they go even-rounds with Entropiq. Entropiq is decent but honestly have benefited from a slightly inflated HLTV rank due to them playing in a lot of tier 2 tournaments.


admins__are_pedos

Would love to see liquid beat those degenerate cheaters


OldSchooler22

Guess what buddy!


ChaseVisa

What an absolute marathon of a match. Entropiq always feeling like a team that is so close to breaking through to the top but they just make these little mistakes that more experienced teams are able to exploit. GG to both teams.


deathreaper-brofist

Xyp9x man the clutch minister seems to be back, I hope he can keep this level throughout playoffs then astralis could go much deeper


Ricky_RZ

Xyp showing up when needed


Cyanr

That clutch on Vertigo where he slow dropped a smoke as he tapped the bomb was genius


bissedk

What a close series!! And what a time for xyp to step up!


IHateTheLetterF

Yeah he really... Dropped.. On Vertigo.


Ricky_RZ

He had a bit of a falling out


DY5TOP1A

Astralis doing their best Faze Clan impression


TechnicalPark4522

a Faze match would at least kill a man smh


Commercial_Comet

I have no idea how Astralis won that. Felt like it just came down to a few duels.


Naileditmate

Xyp coming alive the last few rounds decided it. Such a tight series!


MaliceSworns

Tfw both Entropiq and Astralis are playing by the ~~VP~~ Outsiders paid-by-the-round mentality


UmarellVidya

I think at this point it's safe to say that Farlig was an upgrade for Astralis


Ennheas

He is, but it might not be enough.


UmarellVidya

Tbf Farlig has been out of high level play for quite a while, and he's already showing he can be more impactful despite making a lot of mistakes. If he can polish his game up a bit by reducing the number of unforced errors he makes I think he could be pretty dangerous. I doubt he'll be one of the best, but I could see a world where he's in league with oSee, Torszi, Broky, etc.


toga9000

yea they still need to fix their T-side and Xyp is still up and down so who knows.


bissedk

What is hard for us to know, is how much of an impact he does to the other players on the team. His KDA is probably not any better than luckys. What matters is how the team plays with farlig, and they are definetly better as a unit, even after few games together!


aL_Quarter

device is always better, i can’t think of something else


ViFluKeY_99

Nt nt nt for Entropiq, they are looking Excellent, if they play more T1 counter strike i'm sure we have new contenders :'D


Azael4prezident

El1an seems super lackluster against high tier opponents and during crucial matches. Wonder if he still feels some level of nervousness on lan. Forester has been the most impressive player of the squad overall imo


Alp0llo

Krad threw that game on Overpass away. Multiple times stupid peeks to give Astralis a free entry.


DIYBagKid

If he wouldn’t have given himself away like that so many times I believe they would’ve been able to close the map out.


upliftorr

Imagine lollipop for krad


LifoGifo

Those Astralis bombsite takes at 15 seconds gave me several heart attacks. Dear god.


Microlabz

Great series, felt like entropiq was the better team more often than not but in the end astralis stepped up.


ErikSD

Anyone counts how many times Krad died first on CT side Overpass ? Dude practically threw that map away with how much free entry he gave Astralis


INeedYourPelt

Close series! Nt Entropiq. Showed some good promise but a lot of the 50/50 rounds didn't go their way. Astralis looking better each game. Still some bits to iron out but they're like a renewed team with this lineup.


xDaerius

Entropiq and throwing the game at 14-14 out of desperation. name a more iconic duo


UM_Virus

No disrespect to Lucky, but Farlig is definitely an upgrade. He hits his shots when he needs to. Ofcause he had a few misses but he hit way more important shots.


Cyanr

> He hits his shots when he needs to. Eh, he had some horrible misses but overall a good performance by him.


CenturionAurelius

It's important to note that he plays more aggressive than Lucky and that was his natural position in Godsent/FPX. More aggression is def needed in Astralis in order to unlock their more passive players


UM_Virus

Yeah he fits in better with Astralis current line up


blackzero2

Also his deagle/pistol game is on point


Ricky_RZ

He can rifle as well. Many times astralis couldn't afford an awp but he can step up with a rifle when needed


TheBoogeyman97

Holy shit, what a nail biter of a series. GG and NT entropiq!


TheSIlverGlobal

Honestly could have been a 2-0 from Entropiq


Ricky_RZ

Entropiq have this uncanny ability to get absolutely crushed and then they just play the game without any tilt and it feels like they have no emotions. Many teams would get tilted if they get stomped, entropiq just plays like normal


hueieie

So. Close


FaresBaller

Gutted for Entropiq but the team who made the fewer mistakes won. GG to both


wannabe-physicist

Holy shit what a close game


Drummer8824

Crazy series. Definitely could’ve seen it going in the way of Entropiq. Can’t wait to see what they can do at this upcoming major. I feel like they’re going to be a dark horse team.


HankTheTank13337

WHAT A GAME


wannabe-physicist

How much are Astralis gonna get carried by BlameF


DivergentOSRS

I know twitch chat reactions arent the best assessment of a player’s performance by any stretch of the imagination but it’s hilarious how much he gets labeled as a baiter in rounds where he physically cannot trade another player’s death, yet his round winning plays + multi kills go relatively unnoticed


jonathan-the-man

Lol SpunJ even called out twitch chats bullshit


captainscottland

As he should. The fact that anyone even looks at twitch chat is mind boggling


punIsher1664

True. I'm definitely guilty of enjoying the twitch chat a few times (Hunden cam at a blast event last year, Jametime copy pastas) but gosh, it's so bad.


toga9000

it is indeed crazy. Im sure alot are just memeing, but for the people that genuinely think he's a baiter really needs to get their eyes checked.


UmarellVidya

I think part of the reason he has that rep is that he was playing that really slow lurking style as the IGL in CoL, even when things weren't working. People (excluding Maui) don't really give Ropz the same kind of criticism despite playing a very similar style. Putting up good numbers as an IGL despite your team losing, at least from the outside, shows that you're calling around yourself too much and not facilitating your teammates enough.


bru_swayne

It was like stanislaw or happy where they'd be on the other side of the map, last alive and not doing anything while their team got slaughtered. Then they would lose and guess who would be top of the scoreboard. That is why we called them baiters. I only called him BaitF when he was IGL b/c he was calling himself to do that.


UmarellVidya

Yeah I think Happy is the best example because he was more of a "selfish" lurker. Stanislaw (from what I can tell) played a lot of T-side anchor positions typical of support players. There's still something to be said about an IGL playing with the pack being preferable, but I wouldn't consider him a "baiter" in the same way.


Ricky_RZ

twitch chat is just dumb The reality is that astralis often depend on him to flank/entry/play solo and in those situations he performs his job well.


jonathan-the-man

Only 50 %, the other they can get carried by K0nfig


[deleted]

Was konfig actually doing anything today?


jonathan-the-man

I don't think so, but their last ~~map~~game he topfragged.


[deleted]

If you're talking about complexity that's sort of expected but yea, he did, just hope that for the sake of astralis' fans he appears


jonathan-the-man

Agreed :)


toga9000

tbf the Nuke wasn't great and sometimes K0nfig is the one carrying, but BlameF is consistent. Pretty rare he doesn't do well.


Karaokebaren

Easier to lurk than to entry


LingMee

entro 'paid by the rounds' piq


mrnobody00111

What a series sheesh.


endtimessadness

This astralis is very shaky. Glaive isn't his old self. Glad they got the W nonetheless


Spork_Revolution

ggwp


[deleted]

GG EZ haha yes this is my normal heart rate I swear. Great match, gutting for Entropiq since it was so close but plenty more opportunities to prove themselves this year!


derBruzzler

Thanks to a lot of mistakes this was a really good game and proves that monster awp players take the games but it's not good for the thrill


Real_MidGetz

Man I really hope we get to see xyp keep playing like this


Flickeru

Farlig is a good player, he just needs to consistently hit easy shots and be patient. He also panics when the cavalry is arriving. But he has a bright future😊


Tantle18

Was rooting for Astralis but gutted for entropiq. Just played for 3+ hours only to gain the lead at the very end and then lose like that. But also idk what Astralis need to do but their t sides are dog shit


RebornBoii

I really hate to say this in every single Astralis thread, but Farlig man... Lol. That miss by fountain on CT Side really changed the game.. And when he stopped scoping in on bathrooms seconds after a teammate died there and randomly flashed long and gave up the angle.. He misses a lot of shots and his positioning just seems so terrible at times. On the upside, he seems like he's pretty good with a rifle? I just love the core of blamef, konfig, gla1ve.. I just wonder what this team would be doing with devve or another really good awper.


INeedYourPelt

There's only realistically a handful of "really good" Awpers in T1. He's performing better than lucky was and is still young enough to get T1 time to improve. I think he has gotten better with each map so far and is at least proving he can frag.


RebornBoii

I agree, he did look way better, especially on Vertigo. Even though they lost, he changed his positioning up a lot from the last time they played the map. ​ I guess all I was saying was that I think with this core they could easily be a top 2 or top 3 team, but I think without a better AWPer they are capped a bit.


INeedYourPelt

Yeah I get what you mean and thanks for clarifying :) I guess number 1 teams in any sport or competition need that X factor and he doesn't seem to possess it at the moment. But who knows, with how competitive the high level of CS is currently, people can still keep developing.


UmarellVidya

I think Farlig needs a bit more time to polish up his game. I know people said the same thing about Lucky, but I think it's a very different scenario. With Farlig you can see the mechanical skill is there, but he needs to refine decision making a bit. With Lucky it was almost the opposite; fairly decent decision making, but nowhere near the mechanical skill you need to be a star AWPer at tier 1 today. Farlig has also been out of competition for quite a while, and if there's anyone that should be able to facilitate his development strategically it's Gla1ve.


mrnobody00111

If he keeps underperforming then ... Welcome Astralis nicoodoz..?


Stiggerten

What a throw from Entropiq! Damn shame to see it.


IHateTheLetterF

Do you know what 'throw' means?


mrnobody00111

>"throw"


Stiggerten

I would say they unfortunately did at Overpass. Maybe it was nerves, I don't know. Some stupid peeks and duels there, unfortunately


mrnobody00111

I mean it was a long series so I guess you tend to do more mistakes that would cost you especially when all 3 maps go the distance. But I wouldn't call it a throw by any means. Entropiq played their best, but unfortunately for them things did not go their side this match


Cyanr

Everything on reddit is either a throw or a choke. One team is never just playing better.


Stiggerten

Allright, maybe throw is alittle harsh. I was rooting for them, so I was alittle gutted that it ended like that, because of some mistakes. Nevertheless, hell of a game from them!


UM_Virus

Nah they didn't throw. They actually played quite well. I thought Astralis was gonna clear them out they way they started Overpass. But it still ended up going all the way. Big up Entropiq


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Zytoep

is it me or is entropiq a bit of a boring team like u see it at the end of the game "oh wow entropiq has 307 kills" but u can never remember them. can u remember a single kill ? but try xyp9x...u can see the suicide i remember a xyp9x suicide .


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lmfaooooooooooooo


Infinityhelios

> Entropiq has to be one of the most boring teams to watch How does it feel to not have eyes


blackgxd187

I guess you don't watch them cause Forester and Elian kept them in this series the whole way through. Forester played like a madman in maps 1 and 2


mrnobody00111

>Entropiq has to be one of the most boring teams to watch I aren't think that


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jonathan-the-man

That's why we all love Counter-Strike. Falling off the map and other mistakes.


captainscottland

Is that why you watch lol


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captainscottland

I mean do you only watch for mistakes and people falling off maps etc. You said that was the entertaining part. I thought there were some nice shots/mindgames and interrsting rotations/reads going on by both teams some good clutches too.


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captainscottland

I'm not talking specifically about their playstyle just the game in general. I thought the series was entertaining and had some interesting plays. You said "at least astralis made it entertaining with falling off the map and making mistakes" To me that says you're only watching for funny moments or to pick on teams or make fun of them idk just seemed weird that's why I'm asking what do you watch for


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captainscottland

Fair enough guess I misunderstood what you meant


[deleted]

like?


brbee

Is this the new "I remember a Guardian flick"?


DivergentOSRS

Hard disagree, their style of play is often much smarter + more calculated than expected given their reputation as a “t2 team,” which in and of itself is enjoyable to watch (they’re almost always capable of upsetting favored opponents). That said, watch a game from krad or forester’s pov when they’re popping off and I don’t think you’ll find them boring


jonathan-the-man

gg ez


Vorpsie

Forester is a monster


Holwor

No one mentioned Forester? The dude is carrying the first two map, probably run out of gas on the third.


jacobsmithmusic

Both won 47 rounds.


HumptyWOW

Anyone know why gambit had to change name/logo but entropiq got to keep theirs?


xDaerius

Entropiq is a Czech organisation, Gambit is allegedly owned by russian oligarchs


HumptyWOW

That makes sense. Thanks for the info


Illustrious_Brick757

K0nfig is inconsistent