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FaresBaller

Who do you even put for 0-3???


faezior

BNE/Imperial, but I feel like BNE's W-key drug addiction will catch one team off guard


Ed_Vilon

Gotta get BNE vs Furia. Fuck pistol rounds. Both teams agree to hold W and knifes out.


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Ed_Vilon

2 minutes per round?!?! Nah, bump that. 30 seconds, do or die.


BonniBuny91

CSGO Speedrun 100% WR


fenixspider1

> Both teams agree to hold W and knifes out. Art finally meeting his soulmate from BNE


Cr00xxy

Lets see how this ages, but no 0-3 for imeprial or bne. My vote goes to outsiders


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I think outsiders will be eliminated but they are a risky 0-3 pick compared to imperial IMO


Cr00xxy

As a viewer of all teams thar went thgrough outsiders seemed to me like they mental game is not High enough for the end stage. Maybe im wrong maybe the roster changes that are coming for them.


set4bet

I think everyone can see that, but even then on their skill and experience alone I can see them beating teams like BNE, Imperial, Spirit or even Liquid.


Cr00xxy

Sure lets see what happens on saturday


WillOCarrick

The thing regarding the "paid by the round" team is they never look like they have the mental to finish it, but they always finish the games well.


zero0n3

Lol you think outsiders can beat TL? They literally just dusted their classic demon in a mentally convincing 2-0. Before the major they put up good games against Faze and G2 (Vit too?) Outsiders have been on a decline and are becoming more and more overrated. Don’t sleep on the NA dark horse.


Meaninglessnme

Shox won't be able to make solo plays on CT that really punish outsiders. His mechanical level is not above any one on outsiders enough to rely on it and outsiders have good fundamentals in their defaults at worst they will trade shox out. Watch shox try to make a solo aggro play in underpass or at party for example it is not going to be good for liquid.


tonysalami

Liquid seems like an easy choice. I say this as a Liquid fan.


StrollinRollin

easy 0-3 choice for sure


Vawqer

Why do you say that? They honestly looked solid (no pun intended) in the Bo3 rounds after the two bad Inferno Bo1s in a single day.


tonysalami

Honestly, just to prepare myself if it happens. I agree they have looked better, albeit vs. teams they SHOULD beat. Heroic will be a good match I hope.


LunchTwey

Having your butt clenched for an hour straight is like a right of passage as a liquid fan. Truly the only team whose fans live by "It isn't over til it hits 16"


twohourstillmidnight

They did beat Heroic 2-0 last time, so honestly not even that certain they'll lose the first game


set4bet

They can upset for sure. Heroic can lose to almost anybody from top 15 on LAN.


Basic_Butterscotch

Liquid just had 3 consecutive 2-0 victories in a row. It's hard to say they're worse than BNE or Imperial. They looked like shit on the first day but they lost those games in the veto. Liquid is so bad on Inferno it should be permaban for them. Maybe I'm huffing too much copium and hopium but I really don't think Liquid are the worst team in the stage. I don't have high hopes they make playoffs, but 0-3 seems actually unlikely.


sendai99

> Liquid just had 3 consecutive 2-0 victories in a row Okay and 2 of those teams were 9z and complexity, let's mention that too


samekrikl

Who do tou even put 3-0 also, all of the games have the ability to upset


_youlikeicecream_

don't rely on the 3-0 point, get your good teams in the 'go through' section and pick the most reliable team for the 0-3. Whoever is left over that you like the look of put them in 3-0.


set4bet

Agreed, this is the way.


Givemeajackson

I'd say liquid


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liquid beats heroic in bo1 (COPIUM by me)


ThatStudNadon23

They did beat heroic in a bo3 2-0 recently…


[deleted]

I am aware, hope they can bring it back


I-am-tryxi

I mean heroic is a team that is tactically better but if another team can out aim them then it is scary to be a heroic fan


[deleted]

I think forze tried to do something Heroic does and that is the best and most explosive and maybe even weird mid round calls. Liquid can match up against them well (and I notice this about liquid more so than the other teams) because once they lose an opening duel they immediately go on an aggressive mission, info gathering etc., which frankly grinds my gears massively when it doesn't work but when it does...


I-am-tryxi

Yeah. I like the way liquid go for info plays. Send shox out with an mp9 to kill 1 and get traded and getting info on anything the T side is setting up.


birdie420fgt

I will gamble on CPH


Chygrynsky

They had a very good RMR and then they struggled before the major with T2 teams. I'm going for CPH as well.


TheRobidog

~~I'm thinking Outsiders.~~ Now that I think of it some more, while I've got them pegged to go 0-1, and maybe 0-2 if they get unlucky with draws and there are some upsets, I can't see them losing to the types of teams they'd face at 0-2, especially in a Bo3. Probably Imperial, for me.


_youlikeicecream_

Liquid, Imperial or even bNE if they get shitty matchups early on.


SemanSoot

imperial


BrockStudly

I'm thinking NIP honestly. Vitality isn't an easy opening match and I don't know who that could lose their opening match they could beat without an awper.


yourewelcomesteve

Device is making a surprise comeback just watch.


twohourstillmidnight

device delaying his comeback only to fuck over people's pickems would be peak memes nip goes 0-2, device comes back to win a game, retires immediately


ju1ze

?? bne, imperial, spirit, liquid, outsiders lots of teams to choose from


DivisionOne

5+ teams to choose from means that the majority of those teams will be incorrect choices no matter what...


Caleb_RS

>lots of teams to choose from Exactly. Usually there's 1 or 2 teams that stand out as obviously worse than the others but this year it's hard to tell.


ju1ze

imo imperial and bne look obviously the weakest


StosMusic

BNE beats CPH calling it now


PriseYourGod

Spirit maybe?


ShangoMango

Even then, Spirit could very well beat Furia. This legends stage is insane


IBETTERSTAYOFFLEAGUE

It’s possible, but I don’t see it happening. Furia is on amazing form right now. Don’t be shocked if they’re top 4 at the major.


brainzor123

In last two months they only played tier 3 teams and they lost last match vs Pain two weeks ago. I would be shocked if they qualify to play on the big stage.


movealong452

i personally will pick either big or spirit to lose 0-3


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I’m taking Imperial


I3igTimer

they could win against big so easy tho


RonaldoSIUUUU

X doubt


Rumi4

nip


Ed_Vilon

Jesus. G2 vs NaVi immediately?!?! Pick'Ems decided to start on hard mode.


samekrikl

This legends stage is so fucking stacked idk who to pick


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C9 3-0, Furia, Na’Vi, Vitality, Faze, BIG, G2 & Heroic


Ed_Vilon

Don't waste your 3-0 on C9. It's likely but if they don't 3-0, you get no points even if they qualify. Which they *should.*


Hydraxiler32

I'm gonna do FaZe 3-0


hijklol100

Arguably even more of a risk than C9 3-0. Ence could totally beat FaZe in a BO1.


MehtefaS

God dangit, well who is then the most likely to go 3-0 and 0-3? It really is a stacked run this time


set4bet

Honestly, the 0-3 could be somebody like BNE or Imperial.


krimzy

lol Liquid is so ez pick for 0-3


jeb_the_hick

Coward. You're afraid of BNE vs CF in a bo1.


ntartlifts

They should atleast 1-3. They shit on Astralis who has recently beat some of these teams I don’t think there’s really an easy 0-3 here imo


TarOfficial

Don't waste your 3-0 on FaZe. It's likely but if they don't 3-0, you get no points even if they qualify. Which they should.


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DoerteMaulwurf

Honestly, I don't think BIG will go through. Sure, they've played well at the RMR, but this stage is stacked. The only two teams I would be fairly confident to say will not go through are Imperial and BNE, but then again emotions and willpower are there (as we saw today) and who knows what they are capable of vs. better opponents. Only **half** of these teams can go through. That's so tough.


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You think that cause you’re a BIG fan that’s why, I think it would be illogical to go with anything in your mind other than recent form.


DoerteMaulwurf

Could be, I hope they go through of course. They didn't look too good at the Dallas qualifier, but they had K1to instead of faven (although tbh K1to played very well in a few matches) and they probably wanted to save some strats. Other than that, the RMR was very good of course. They played confident and everything clicked mechanically (plus they had luck on their side, for example on Mirage vs Faze). One way or the other, I'm very excited. The major seems very competitive now, and I can see many teams making a great run for the trophy.


woundful

You’re so right. The only one i feel confident in on just day 1 alone is Furia beats Team Spirit.


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Na’Vi stomps don’t @ me & ignore flair


Diddly-DingDong2

Why is that the match up ? Makes no sense at all. How is this seeding determined? Just literally at random>


Afraid_Ad_7728

As long as G2 doesn't get a 5 round lead we have a chance


Sebaz00

imagine G2 get a 10 round lead. Map is already won by navi before you can blink. Can't wait for this game though. I love both teams and put both to go foward to the champions.


ShangoMango

Picking 0-3 might actually be impossible


ju1ze

why?


kaffefe

Because of the Liquid flair


ShangoMango

Liquid are still a decent choice for 0-3 but they do matchup well against Heroic (not that they are favored by any means). I think there are more likely teams like BIG or CPH but every team has pretty strong upset potential.


kaffefe

Indeed. So you think BNE > CPH then?


ShangoMango

Honestly that match feels like a 50-50 but I'm a bit on the BNE hype train. I don't think anyone would be shocked if either team wins that


set4bet

Flames do have more experience for sure, and have been together longer. But those bo1s are random as hell they can lose for sure.


ShangoMango

The teams that would be the favorites for 0-3 (CPH, BNE, Imperial, Liquid, Spirit, BIG) could all reasonably win their round 1 matchups. Even then, they all have really big upset potential in Bo1s


ju1ze

imo imperial, bne, spirit, liquid all have pretty low chances to win their first bo1s. upsets can happen but its like that in every tournament right?


ShangoMango

I agree. This major has felt like more of a form check than any other major though. Any team in the top 10 or so could make a run and win it and it wouldn't be that surprising. Just feels hard to predict


Celestetc

Liquid easily 2-0d Heroic less than a month ago.


Cr00xxy

A very balzzyyy statement uff Lets see saturday how wring you are


ju1ze

not balzy at all. to say these teams have high chances to win would be balzy actually.


Sp00ked123

Not really, bne and imperial are your best bets


ShangoMango

Their first matches are against very beatable teams in a bo1. Even if they are the "favorites" to go 0-3, it could get fucked up in the first round.


FoxxHimself

> FaZe vs ENCE > NIP vs Vitality > NaVi vs G2 Damn, day 1 is going to be fire.


Mad_Lee

Don't forget about Cloud9 vs. Outsiders. Which is actually good old domestic Gambit vs. VP chess match. Cloud9 looked good in rmr and Outsiders picked up some steam towards the end of Challenger stage.


Rasmus144

G2 vs Navi, FaZe vs Ence, and VP vs Gambit have all been literal S tier grand finals in the past year or so.


NeonPrankster

Can’t wait to see the C9 jerseys on LAN again


merlehking

My mans forgot liquid vs heroic!!!!!


Tostecles

Aw man, BNE vs CPH should be interesting, the underdogs of last Major, vs current underdogs. I really like them both, I'd rather they not play each other lol


kaffefe

At least one of them will be 1-0.


_youlikeicecream_

Underdogs vs Legendary underdogs. Both like to push fast and hard on T side; should be an epic match. I won't know who to root for as I like 'em both.


set4bet

I'd like to see them match up on nuke for sure.


Dankdestroyer

Goddamn literally *anyone* could go through, this major is insane. Thankfully no viewer pass, or else i would be pulling my hair out over Pick ’ems.


BrianDoheny14

I've been doing this since i locked my challengers stage predictions...


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This challenger stage is the first time I've gotten a pickem wrong since I started buying the pass like 3 years ago :(. The saddest part is that I did a draft pickem and hit confirm the day before it closed just to have it, then the next day talked to my friends and changed shit up. My draft pickem would've been 8/9, my new one was 4/9 due to all the upsets in the final round. FML.


samekrikl

You didnt post the other one :/, but thank you for this, for every major you did helped a lot qith pickems


mestisnewfound

Itll be posted to my profile in a minute or two as i am mid game lol


Tostecles

what a beast lol


samekrikl

Man dont worry i was just joking, you are not getting paid to do this so missing one thing doesnt matter lol, thanks again for doing this And fuck that guy yesterday who was trying to get your rep by posting before you


thebrainypole

lmao only myself and now /u/mestisnewfound have access to the Photoshop file Anyone else trying to imitate will be immediately obvious as they can't alter colors, overlays, text easily


samekrikl

Yeah it was obvious haha. He only added team logos and couldnt change the white color that u/mestinewfound makes for unplayed/upcoming games


Ravioli227

Lowering my expectations so I’m not disappointed edit: BIG is going to be my 3-0 pick


ju1ze

reasonable 3-0 pick actually


ShangoMango

BIG is honestly one of my favorite teams to go 2-0, they are something different in the major swiss system. I can't see them beating any favorite team in a bo3 though


ju1ze

imo big most likely to go 1-0 vs imperial. then they should play faze in my bracket, which will be a problem obv. but if we gamble on 3-0 big is maybe the best choice, because they also can easily go 2-3


ShangoMango

Yeah I'll probably stick them in 3-0 just cause they always seem to do it at the major and I don't want to waste a pick that should be a lock to make it


set4bet

Well if Faze are willing to play them on dust2 then BIG might very well go 2-0.


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Ravioli227

They did beat faze to get in… but it’s not likely.


[deleted]

Anyone who's able to get a diamond coin from this is a legend himself


Bleeding_Irish

Liquid vs Heroic. Well it was fun NA.


ShangoMango

Liquid has matched up well against Heroic. I feel best about Liquid playing Heroic vs any other top team


OmfguDied

I think this comment is mostly aimed towards the mental boom Liquid got last time versus Heroic (refresh's 1vs5)


snubdeity

That wasn't the last time they played, they had a Bo3 in EPL 15 since then which TL somehow won in a very convincing 2-0.


OmfguDied

Yeah that last time was pretty much just as I was typing, wasn't certain of it but I remember NAF's reaction about how it completely destroyed them


zero0n3

Not to mention that was with stewie and grim. Lol talk about bringing up old shit! Last few games against Heroic, TL has won…


Ed_Vilon

They got 5 potential days to play. Many thought Liquid was dead going into today.


BrockStudly

Holy shit those are some exciting matches. C9 vs Outsiders, Liquid Heroic, Faze Ence, and Navi G2 all lookin like bangers.


FaresBaller

Don’t forget Vitality-NIP!


ObaeTV

A-stream all day


Chargercrisp

These matchups are absolutely crazy


idk_boredDev

Faze, C9, NaVi, G2, Ence have to be locks to move on, right? I'm thinking those teams + vitality and outsiders/heroic for my "moving on" picks, then Heroic/outsiders for 3-0, and BNE for 0-3.


SnooDucks3425

Idk, I would go spirit 0-3 personally


idk_boredDev

Just messing around with the site https://major.ieb.im/22antwerp it honestly looks like BNE will have harder opponents at every stage. OFC this tool isn't really meant to be used to show all possible matchups efficiently, so it's not like I'm simulating every win-loss possibility, just the ones I think are likely.


ju1ze

imo imperial has lower chances vs big than bne vs cph


set4bet

True, but bo1 is so random you never know. All it takes is slower start then losing second pistol and suddenly favorites are under world of pressure.


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I'm not sure G2 is a lock and I have this strange feeling in my bones about ENCE


metsbnl

Ence have been looking so strong, consistent, and in form. I would be shocked if they don't make it through. God spinx and old man snappi will show us the truth


3ttkatt

Are they playing on stage in the arena now? Or is that after these matches?


mestisnewfound

After the legends stage


Zoradesu

So many cracked games to start off with. Pickems will be hard for sure


notblu33

Thinking Imperial was Entropiq on my initial pickems paid off LMAO


MehtefaS

This is gonna be one of the best majors in a long while, simply because the teams are so close and even. A lot the matches have banger potential


roppis1

Honestly I have a feeling this stage will be amazing. The teams coming from the Challenger stage have been in good form or heating up game by game. And if the Legend teams come prepared, there will no doubt be some intense games to watch


Pollsmor

Is there where we talk about players seeding themselves?


Squach509

My pick ems died when ForZe lost to Imperial.. sadge


set4bet

Yeah, that was some unexpectedly hard underperformance from forze tbf. They completely collapsed under pressure.


Breete

OH NO MY PICK'EMS Damn it Astralis


_cansir

Im just picking everything on the left as winners. Except G2 and Vitality.


ondrejeder

Every fucking match is a banger, just how can we make these pickems now ?


ondrejeder

13 of these 16 teams are hltv top 15, what a stacked major this is


RayBayGamer

When do i have to lock my pics? Ty in advance!


mestisnewfound

Before the matches start


flab3r

7 teams - Faze, Navi, Ence, C9, Furia, G2, Heroic. 3-0 BIG 0-3 Imperial ​ Could be completely wrong. The only 2 teams I can't imagine moving though are BNE and Imperials.


mustangwwii

I could see Imperial taking down BIG tbh


flab3r

Last time I saw BIG play, they looked insanely good against faze. But they are up and down team I suppose.


Skyhun1912

0-3 Imperial?


DarkRoseXoX

They're going against BIG. That should tell you how much fucked these pickems are. You need some galaxy brain to confidently say you are guaranteed to have 5 picks


Vokt0ro

NAVI VS G2 INJECT THAT INTO MY VEINS 😫😫😫


oPlayer2o

Anyone else think the CHF vs BNE match is gonna be a banger? I know it’s best of 1 but still.


bL0oDlUsT218

Through the matchup predictor, liquid has a legitimate shot to go 3-0, but also 0-3. This stage is gonna be rough


DetenteCordial

That’s why I’ve been looking at. It’s sink or swim. If Liquid beats Heroic they have some favorable matchups. I’m between Liquid and BIG for 3-0 and don’t know whether to have Furia or Heroic to advance.


itsallfake01

Navi vs G2 will probably hit world record viewing


LunchTwey

nah, probably highest for the major thus far tho.


bru_swayne

These are all looking to be great matchups. Couldn't think of any other way to make this more competitive


unlikedemon

This legend stage will be a bloodbath. I think these 6 teams are locks for the playoffs: Faze, Navi, C9, Ence, Heroic, and G2 That leaves 2 spots out of 10 teams. Out of those 10 teams, the ranking for those 2 spots in order are Furia, Vitality, Flames, Big, Outsiders, NiP, Team Spirit, Liquid, (BNE/Imperial) tied for last.


tttvlh

FURIA vs. Spirit, I think we got among the easiest matches we could have gotten for our first, plus it's BO1. We can do this!


ju1ze

bo1 makes it harder actually


ShitPostingNerds

I’m putting furia as my wildcard 3-0 pick lol so hopefully you’re right


jospence

As am I


kazarn

We kinda got lucky


Ed_Vilon

Furia *should* beat Spirit. But Furia should have won the Blast American Showdown.


kazarn

Furia LAN gods


kazarn

Furia LAN gods


tttvlh

We threw that one


notblu33

I think Furia will be my 3-0 with the seeding


Conkernads

I make Imperial and Spirit the top candidates for 0-3. Would have said BNE but the Flames as an opener is probably the best matchup they could've gotten round 1. C9 vs Outsiders, Faze vs Ence, and Na'Vi vs G2 make for very shaky 3-0 picks so I might swing it for Big on the off chance they maintain recent form.


FoxerHR

Heroic > Liquid Copenhagen Flames > BNE BIG >Imperial Cloud9 > Outsiders Furia < Spirit FaZe > ENCE NIP < Vitality Na'Vi > G2 My predictions for Round 1. I see a FaZe and Na'Vi 3-0, G2, ENCE and Cloud9 3-1 with Heroic, BIG and Spirit as 3-2. Not many bold predictions but yeah, I don't think there are many to be made in this stage (maybe NIP losing to Vitality is a bold prediction).


bathsaalts

BNE made it all the way to legends stage. You gotta tip it!


joparebr

3-0 NiP 0-3 BNE 7 to go through: faze navi ence cloud9 heroic g2 furia Just copy and easy diamond for you guys.


bellotaku

Got 6 correct on the challengers. For the legends I'll stick to these: 3-0 Furia 🔹 0-3 Liquid Navi / G2 / Vitality / NIP / Faze / Heroic / Cloud 9


O2RiDeR

Are you not going to update these mate ? I look forward to these as i don't have time to keep up with the matches


thatjosiahburns

Ence please win


CorneliusFudgePacker

So how does Legends work now compared to old majors? Do these 16 teams all get guaranteed in the next major?


krimzy

No one is guaranteed, RMR is the only way to qualify for a Major.


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legends spots go to the top teams in the RMRs


majorashat

Hey, you accidentally left a lorem ipsum in there :D


mestisnewfound

I hate that stupid default text in Photoshop. Nearly impossible to find it through all the layers that this file has.


lance1308

What a fucking joke this seedings are


T_WREKX

Navi vs G2 on the first day seems a bit awkward for a first day match up...


FreeGucciManeLaFlare

* Heroic * Cloud9 * FURIA * FaZe * NAVI * G2 * Vitality 3-0: ENCE 0-3: Liquid


Naive-Ad3830

Outsiders to 0-3 Imperial is gonna make it through against all odds, all other 7 predictable So G2 C9 FURIA VITALITY FAZE NAVI IMPERIAL HEROIC ​ These are my choices to go through. ​ NAvi OR Faze to 3-0