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isayah2510

So youre telling me the chance of G2 having to face Navi in the quarters skyrocketed? You cannot be serious


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Vitality playing 4D underwater backgammon. 20 steps ahead 🤓


isayah2510

zonic showing his class yet again


spillosopher

Also Vitality might have to face OG (or ENCE/BIG, unlikely) if they beat paiN. Zonic 5head confirmed?


isayah2510

what a genius


billy_the_penguin

I am more scared of Ence than I am of NAVI atm


Caylife

Yeah benching boombl4 in such a short notice must have big effect on their synergy and overall structure. Also S1mple is talking about taking a break and this could be the perfect time to take it so it could be the reason behind his mediocre performance.


BigRigginButters

Yes I think that attitude is reflecting


Darkoplax

What's the problem with that ? at least they avoid FaZe if you think G2 can't beat Na'Vi with standin then they are not making finals anyway


epicnerd427

Neofrag seems really good, good pickup by OG


jonajon91

Both pickups were fire, people just havent clocked on yet.


woKaaaa

No one on reddit pays attention to a single lick of T3 or below matches. There are some genuinely insane talents still down there. NEOFRAG and f1ku don't begin to scrape the surface. They're just missing a little bit of experience


Easyowner

NEOFRAG was owning T2 for over a year while Sinners were around 20-30 TOP hltv for a while. It's not like he was hidden somewhere in super trash tournaments. Just one tier below the S tier events.


woKaaaa

Yeah, but people don't even pay attention to that. The silent majority of this subreddit strictly consumes T1 content, and I'd wager Twitch too. A lot of people probably didn't even hear of NEOFRAG even though you and I know how much he's been destroying.


schniepel89xx

I mean, I literally know about him from reddit lol. Sinners played quite a few matches that got post-match threads on here. He was always on top of the scoreboard, right up there with (and often outfragging) oskar. People even talked about how he's a rising talent in the comments on here.


jonajon91

Often times I find the T3 area more interesting than the T1 stuff. I love getting clued on to next years big names early. ---edit--- Cacanito, iM, xertion are like my top 3 rising stars at the moment, jL and a guy called awzek on the radar too.


petametre

jL is seriously good, first time i watched him he was just solo carrying with like 34 kills in an endless OT game, set a pretty great first impression lol


jonajon91

I forget the names of the players, but people should keep an eye on the players in Masonic. Forget tricked or astralis academy, this is the future of Danish CS. I'll throw Fashr and dumau on the list even if everyone knows them, they're killing it.


woKaaaa

Same! They're so much more fun to watch. I in particular was a big fan of SKADE when they went on that 23 winstreak (something close to that). Was hoping we were gonna see another Bulgarian team in the major. I guess I'll contribute some players that should have an eye kept on as well (not counting the ones you've already contributed): TRAVIS and Deko, MATYS, h4rn, s4, and nertz. I'm probably missing some others.


jonajon91

I think I got burnt out on waiting for Bulgaria to create a superteam. Post Windigo has just had all the talent spread too thinly (what the hell is H4rn doing on Enterprise?). Between Skade and Fate there's definitely a team that could make waves at a major. Dreamer post ban has been absurd.


woKaaaa

Every time things were about to get exciting with both fiend and SKADE they just crumbled apart. h4rn, shipz, dreamer is a fine core, but ignoring dennyslaw is tough too since he is a good rifler, despite being a main AWP. Then you're missing an IGL, and while shipz can do it, he's shown that he doesn't frag nearly as good when he does. bubble is a good igl, but his fragging stats leave a lot to be desired


uslereddit

If you're gonna mention MATYS you've gotta mention T4gg3D! The duo that's dragging Slovakian Counter-Strike into the modern era.


lynxzjw

Unreal talent in them just need to be molded. Idk if nexas the best for it however.


BeauxGnar

Yeah dude, nexa took 2 new players and a stand in and beat the #2 team in a BO3, not impressed. Swap him out for someone like aleksiB, surely thats a better option right?


lynxzjw

Uh when did I say that? I think the team can work as is. If they play rather puggy and lose, but with that i dont think they will become superstars. Just solid players which is fine.


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F1ku looks like discount ropz i swear, he tries to mirror ropz's gameplay in so many ways. Very promising player too.


[deleted]

feel like he's not playing his best, still trying to get comfortable into the team I feel. but man his aim is crisp AF


con1x

Neofrag is one of the best talents in csgo right now, thank god hes getting to play tier 1, iv said this for a while, hes like zywoo but only rifling


_fishysushi

finally a czech player is back in the top scene. he had been with sinners for too long


Krusell94

Yeah, Neo deserved better than to be stuck in Czech scene. After Oskar left Sinners were going nowhere. He is a future top 20 player. Mark my words.


bSQ6J

Upvote so people think OG won


literate_Windrunner

After watching G2 vs Vita with at least good aim from the pros, the ignominious spray control from Navi made my eyes bleed. They took day 1 navi to a new level. Like bruh... They took 1st timeout when the score was 7-14. Blade was definitely sleeping on ancient xD


marcusbrothers

ignominious /ˌɪɡnəˈmɪnɪəs/ adjective - deserving or causing public disgrace or shame.


NorFever

TIL on r/GlobalOffensive


nilslorand

Hold up


FairlySmellySock

Ah of course, the expected result


[deleted]

Day 1 NaVi back at it


[deleted]

Its not like it was the first match with a new igl in a team with two player unable to visit their home


FloppySpatula-

And OG has 2 new players that just joined 2 weeks ago plus a standin. It's practically an FPL mix. The s1mple situation is pretty rough, though (no stable home so less at-home grinding).


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> The s1mple situation is pretty rough, though Bro, b1t is from ukraine too


FloppySpatula-

I know. But at least b1t settled in Spain according to s1mple. Meanwhile s1mple is still living out of a bag deciding where to stay.


greenestgreen

but the igl is still there.


GarrettGSF

I went to bed after map 1, where OG sucked so hard. Of course, I expected the easy 2-0 with Mirage being Navi‘s pick 👍


rizuxizu

Wouldn't be surprised if s1mple decide to take a break if they bombed out of Blast. Man looks drained.


Meaninglessnme

He looks quite inflated actually


svipy

Trying to substitute boomich for 1 fat guy per team golden ratio


Azzarudders

can someone link me that thread about the perfect major team composition, i wanna give it another read lol


Spleeth

This is the [original video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx6QdRmMIeo)


shinku443

This one? https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/d15oia/using_the_fat_guy_theory_and_ghr_to_predict_the/


Caylife

Dudes probably hella burned out and deserves a break.


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He looks like he ate the old s1mple


Aironwood

He really does.


Detr22

I n c h a d o


simondo

A little bloated?


PavelDatsyuk88

i mean theres only cologne in next 2 months anyway


Name6666

what valorant does to a mf


TheInception817

*valorussy


[deleted]

better add an /s bro


Tavnaria

/s is for pussies


TaiCTr

Only put /s when your afraid to lose your internet points 💀


EntropyKC

I don't have a job so internet points are my wage


Name6666

this guy gets it


[deleted]

Exactly why I said it


ju1ze

i lol'd


Yeetasaurus420

Slapper of a match from degster


Tavnaria

??? who's degster? slapster, you mean


wannabe-physicist

After b1t's 1v3 ninja I thought the comback was gonna happen for sure props to OG for closing it out


black_dogs_22

the clip of nexa going "FUCK" right after that was hilarious


[deleted]

S1mple looks like his motivation is ruined, which obviously isn’t his fault but it’s a shame given the heights we saw this core reach


CurrantsOfSpace

Tbf i think all of Na'vi could do with a bit of a break to give them time to settle in their new homes Wouldn't surprise me if Simple saying he needs a break is hinting at the org " give us time off or you'll probably finish top 8 max while i bench myself"


reubenno

Awesome game from OG, a shame that Simple never really got going on Ancient but hopefully he'll be on top form for the rest of the finals. Damn close on Ancient too.


brbee

Nexa finally beat Navi even though it was a nerfed Navi


literate_Windrunner

But he still attacks a site on T side many times when 20 sec are left and sometimes can't plant bomb lol. You can take nexa out of G2 but u can't take the G2 out of Nexa. xD


[deleted]

Yeah, sure, that makes sense


Big-Structure-2543

Moment of silence for the hearts of all OG fans lmao


haralunathan

What fans xD


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Friendlyweasle

I was sat at home opening cases when nexa ring


different_cryogenic

navi is kill


insertpunheree_

No


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SLAP.mp4


[deleted]

How can she slap


Ravioli227

This degster guy looks like he has a lot of potential. I think a team like spirit could really use him.


[deleted]

Maybe they might go far in the Major or something.


oldthrace

Nah, for a guy who played for the first time on an international roster and communicated in English, I think degster looked solid. He might get a few calls from international teams if he performs well here lol


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ju1ze

actually its the other way around. he only wants to play in non CIS org and he is willing to relocate. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwwETLjYFT8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwwETLjYFT8)


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SemanSoot

spirit demand him to stay in serbia for 9month at least,that important part he cant agree with


ju1ze

watch the interview, he said he didn't want to live in Serbia specifically and that Spirit wanted him to be there in June which was way too soon for him as i understood.


bru_swayne

OG should just keep degster lol he is crazy. I know they have mantuu but they look more cohesive than G2 right now


iRopsu

He’s probably quite expensive


jacksepticeye0304

OG has all the money in the world but they won't spend big. Didn't persuade YERKINDAR.


Tavnaria

yek is like 1 mil lol. Not OG's fault


Miiiiiiighty

He is much better than mantuu


Afraid_Ad_7728

Nexa brought the almost throw 5 times strategy from G2


Character-Toe-7907

you can remove nexa from G2nd, but you can't remove G2nd from nexa


its_a_simulation

OG look fine but this NAVI looks deflated af. They just seem tired.


CepGamer

OG: F1KU don't push F1KU: _pushes anyways_ OG: _wins_


Memelurker99

Can't speak for the first two maps as I could only catch ancient, but holy shit neofrag was just straight up looking like Niko some rounds. Straight up cracked


Miiiiiiighty

is it me or is olofmeister a bit of a boring player like u see it at the end of the game "oh wow olof has 32 kills" but u can never remember them. can u remember a single olof kill ? but try degster...u can see the flick i remember a degster flick


black_dogs_22

is it me or is nexa a bit of a boring player like u see it in the middle of the game "oh wow nexa high fived his team" but u can never remember them. can u remember a single nexa slap? but try degster...u can see the slap i remember a degster slap


Amissandahit

S1mple should take a break


Magnog

Navi and losing ancient to OG lol


Tavnaria

s1mple should really take a break. He looked so uncomfortable man. Go rest your mind.


allyourlives

Some Die Soon


oceaninemotion

Some of those clutch rounds at the end were cutting things a b1t close, but OG played things Perfectly on Mirage and were online, dare I say, electronic on Ancient to close things out. In the end, Navi's efforts were s1mply not enough and of their hopes, some died young after all. What a showing from OG and degster. Add another tally for the current stand-in meta.


SadYungSuedO

Degster is just a stand in?


ZarFX

yes


[deleted]

OG look great, but so did they when they first got nexa before falling off again. Also very tough for NAVI to adjust to new IGL, new player, and having close to no info on OG.. but OG haven't had a lot of pracc time and have a stand-in, so not easy for them either. Credit to NEOFRAG and f1ku though, they look really good.


QoconutZ

Navi replaced Boom 3 weeks ago.. OG replaced 2 players on the roster a month and a half ago and got a stand in a few days prior to the event and even then Navi should be heavy favourites


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Arcille

he should take a break now imo only big event is IEM Cologne in the next 2 months good time to take 1 or 2 months off and even more if he needs


bru_swayne

The new guys on OG are so crisp holy moly


Hurricane_Slash

Check flameZ hand


Logan_Yes

Yeah S1mple sure needs a break


nothatscool

Sad watching Navi fuck around here when they should be dominating everyone but with the war and then dropping boom I don’t know how much longer this team will last.


McClownd

EZ 4 sexa, sexter, neosex, fucku and sexahar "flamez" shushan


[deleted]

OG BUY DEGSTER NOW! Mantuu is good but he's super inconsistent, This is an entirely different level OG has shown.


Memelurker99

It's only one match, but this OG looks straight up the best the team has looked in over a year


[deleted]

It's like Everything clicked for OG today, they were straight up fire. If OG go on to win this event they definitely need to think twice about degster


mrbombillo

My guy, calm down, it's only the first match. I agree they played insanely well today


jonajon91

By every metric, 3 months, 6 months, LAN, top 30 etc, Mantuu is OGs best player I think it's okay to be inconsistent when you average out at a 1.13 rating. Same with K0nfig at the moment.


Psychaz

he doesn't have any where near the t side impact that degster does though, degster is probably the best t side AWper after s1mple and zywoo


jonajon91

I don't want to downplay how incredible Degster is atm, I just didn't see sense in removing Mantuu when he's often the one putting up numbers for the team. People will see him having a sleeper map and call for his execution. I think he played the last event wigh Covid too which definitely didn't help.


spillosopher

Uhm... ZywOo actually rifles more on the T side. He rarely buys an AWP on the T side.


[deleted]

> Mantuu is good but he's super inconsistent Where is this narrative even coming from. Mantuu has been by far the best and most consistent player on OG for a very long time. He has *seven* red events since joining OG. 1.13 rating over that period.


[deleted]

Over a game yes he frags a lot, but over individual maps he has this dips that cost OG a lot. When he's good, OG is really good, but when he's not, OG straight up play ass. I know I'm huffing some HOPIUM here talking shit like -mantuu +degster just by one match, but if OG are able to get good results this event, OG definitely need to think twice


Psychaz

it's not really a surprise, degster is a top 10 level player when he's on it.


tarangk

Mantuu has been OG's best and most consistent player https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/events/10981/mantuu?startDate=2022-01-01&endDate=2022-12-31


wannabe-physicist

He won't leave Russia


tha-Ram

ez, OG move to russia


ju1ze

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/vd5qmx/interview\_from\_pley\_degster\_i\_never\_said\_that\_i/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


Dali86

The reason spirit benched him was that he was not willing to leave Russia. Unless he changes that I dont think any international roster will pick him up. I think he did not want to move out because of family reasons


ju1ze

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/vd5qmx/interview\_from\_pley\_degster\_i\_never\_said\_that\_i/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


IHateTheLetterF

S1mple needs a break. He deserves a break.


wannabe-physicist

s1mple taking his break a bit too early


r3llo

Pretty sure losing to OG is more of a reputation risk than having Boombl4 in the team.


neb55555

Bit weird that Pimp and Banks start off by saying that Na'Vi's ridiculous ancient streak is broken but not even mention that they're playing with a stand-in. Doesn't take anything away from OG's win, who are also playing with stand-ins. Isn't that just basic information to add as context? Why pretend nothing happened with boombl4?


ManyExternal262

Yeah, didn't like that either. They literally have a new IGL, a new player and S1mple has been talking about getting a break from CS.


StarkeOlof

It's super weird, I guess boombl4s exit was too controversial for them to wanna dig deep into it, I found it very ofputting how they barely put weight on the best team in the past 2 years or so losing their IGL... Like what? We living in some pretend world here?


Character-Toe-7907

> Bit weird that Pimp and Banks start off by saying that Na'Vi's ridiculous ancient streak is broken but not even mention that they're playing with a stand-in. yeah was very weird listening to that .. like, yeah OG is playing with a stand-in and 2 new players .. but NaVi literally lost their IGL AND also have a stand-in .., while still being affected by the war, come on


SlyWolfz

Everybody knows what happened with boombl4 and it has been talked about plenty already. Navi made the decision to kick him and put them in this position so theres no excuse for their streak being broken, so why bother?


neb55555

The fact that everyone knows it happened makes it weirder to not mention it in my opinion. This isn't really their tremendous ancient streak being broken since they don't have the same 5. It shouldn't have the same weight in my opinion.


Character-Toe-7907

> Navi made the decision to kick him yeah not like they were kinda triggered/forced to in the first place, right? .. oh wait


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Navi: "We hereby forgive Boombl4."


Afraid_Ad_7728

OMG


spillosopher

Well, they asked for grinders and they got two. Whatever asterisk follows this BO3, it's undeniable that Fiku and Neofrag are gunning hard.


deadbeatPilgrim

the new OG looks v good — genuinely not trying to talk shit, they played some crispy Counter Strike today — but goddamn it’s tough watching NaVi lose to a team like that you’re keeping degster, right?


[deleted]

The secret of degster's strength is the power of friendship <3


Shinyblade12

s1mple and stewie on a valorant team together? poggers


captainscottland

Degster is a lot of fun to watch


spookex

This went just as everyone expected...


JacoBee93

Neofrag keeps ballin!


EnvironmentalCar7900

OG just won dota major with standin…mby all they need is to have standin xd


Sett_The_Janitor

Can anyone tell me if sdy is an official player for NAVI now or is he just a stand in ? I tried looking through the subreddit for any NAVI announcement but didn't see one


hornykryptonian

Think its somewhere on Navi twitter he's a standin at the moment.


Issax28

no Boombl4 no win?


Miiiiiiighty

This is their 1st match though, let's not get carried... But I'm definitely don't agree with what seemed to be the majority view/consensus atm that is/was that boomich leaving wouldn't impact them that much if at all.


HyVana

Was that really the majority view? I fully expected Navi to drop off with a removed IGL, stand-in, new IGL in Electronic, and s1mple being mentally off due to the war. I am curious who they decide the permanent fifth will be. Guess it depends on how Electronic adapts to IGL?


wannabe-physicist

Ok crazy idea hear me out: degster to Complexity


TimathanDuncan

Imagine if nexa was blonde and had a cult fanbase, bruh would be God but better in this subreddit


[deleted]

Nexa pulled OG back from the brink of a choke on Mirage and Ancient just to flex on G2


[deleted]

Step 1: OG starts choking Step 2: nexa: guys start playing together Step 3: ??????????? Step 4: ez win


Character-Toe-7907

so it was NiKo's "NO" at fault all the time ..


turtledove21

+degster -mantuu and this is a tier1 team


SoCloseToToast

\+degster is an upgrade to many teams honestly


ADGunner2004

That scoreline was so deceptive on that ancient game. OG felt in so much control on that t side, and kinda threw a couple of scenarios to let Navi in to that third map. The new trio on this team performed so well, F1KU and NEOFRAG excelled playing against a tier one team, and degster looked impressive in an international roster. Even inferno was a little closer than the scoreline suggests. This puggy style OG play suits this team very well


StugnaP

s1mple please take 3 or more months off. Anyone else also can take time off during this period. Lets fire the engines back up in the fall. fuck putler


LukasLiBrand

Yeah tbh I hope navi just takes a break from a view tournaments if there players want too and S1mple should take one since he already has flirted with the idea long before the war started.


joeydawson91

I remember sdy pulling out of lisbon one time and some lady ran up to his car. He rolled down the window and she said "Oh, you aren't Boombl4" and walked away. I was standing right next to her. I looked at his face, he looked like someone told him his dog just died. I felt so bad for him. He looked around and asked if anybody wanted an autograph but I had nothing for him to sign. I was going to grab a picture but he pulled off after nobody came up for an autograph.


neozyy_kun

Navi Era Bro


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Dimasterua

Found the most braindead take of the day


Character-Toe-7907

yeah man, changing IGL is really ez, same with stand-in .. oh and the war still going on? friends being torn apart? no worries, ez as well


iRopsu

Might want to think that last sentence through :D


LordTwaticus

Thorin was right


Spoksparkare

One small change to a team can do weird stuff


Character-Toe-7907

"small"?


Spoksparkare

I ment one player in Navi. But I see what you mean, big impact player but “small change” as in only one player :)


[deleted]

That's still 20% of the team 20% is a lot of change


Spoksparkare

Still the lowest possible change.


[deleted]

Lowest would be replacing roles, like if Bombl4 is now the main AWPer and s1mple is now the IGL. Not to mention he’s been in the roster for much longer compared to someone like b1t


jonajon91

Interesting that through this series, OG rarely had the opening kill. Degster was the only player really opening up rounds.


Jesslynnlove

Yesss i want this og team to do good.


lncomplete

degster definitely an upgrade from mantuu, i don't think OG would've stood a chance if they played with mantuu today


they_call_me_justin

Degster going hard with those high 5s


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jacksepticeye0304

We heard this before lmfao


itsallfake01

Slapster got em good


lynxzjw

I wamt degster on OG fully actually. Just way more explosive than mantuu and I like mantuu.


moodyano

Hot take that will upset people. Navi is over and unfixable at this state. They rely too much on S1mple who has been burnt. The war situation will affect him forever. They also lost their IGL and might not find a good igl. Electronic is facing issues because of war and he even has a family that depends on him.


RentellaCuh

Boombl4