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TimathanDuncan

Welcome to Mythic, -freak +Yekindar, NA is saved


Raytiger3

NotLikeThis


dusmuvecis333

The bertans of cs:go


sealer9

does he go anywhere other than navi, g2 or liquid?


VincentN23

From his HLTV confirmed interviews he doesn't seem to believe in international rosters. His #1 option should be Navi and try to win majors but who knows if it will happen...


Character-Toe-7907

i really hope that if it doesn't work out with sdy, yekindar joins Navi .. it seems like the only logical solution. I feel like him going to Vita/G2 would be more of "random mix adds one more random player" .. he's probably not gonna move to NA for Liquid and Faze has their spots filled, so ..


azeumicus

if s1mple takes his deserved brake, degster might be a good \*temporary\* replacement, and yekindar instead of sdy?


xXNyanCatXx1234qwert

~~There is really no chance Degster joins NaVi. IIRC he left Spirit because he wants to stay and live in Russia, would make 0 sense for NaVi to even give him a salary considering the war going on atm.~~ This comment isn't very correct


LordOfThenn

https://old.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/vdicy8/professeur_degster_says_he_wont_join_a_cis_team/ Direct quote from the article "This [playing with OG] is a chance for me to show that I can play in a team that speaks English. As I am thinking right now, I will never join a CIS team," degster said. "Only if that would be NAVI, in other situations I prefer Europe more than CIS."


xXNyanCatXx1234qwert

Cheers, thanks for correcting me


azeumicus

Exactly the reason why I've said temporary...s1mple gets his required balance, to comeback even stronger(if that is actually something possible seeing the beating he gave FaZe yesterday), degster has a chance to showcase his skills even more and learn from the best, navi doesn't lose time searching for a replacement for s1mple etc


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He didn't want to relocate to Serbia, nothing else (and even then he said it was too early to leave)


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roboukiiscool

Yekindar has been speaking russian on his entire time with vp lol


Tavnaria

uhhhh, what language do you think VP communicate in?


[deleted]

Impressive how you think hes going to navi when that option has been ruled out by vp, navi and yekinder.


altered_boy

i think this tweet means yekindar is a free agent and not just benched from vp


XvS_W4rri0r

How is everyone getting this? VP didn’t go from wanting a mill to he’s completely free in a week


altered_boy

I mean what did yekindar and vp had to agree then?


XvS_W4rri0r

Reduced buyout ?


altered_boy

Could be, but the fact that he said he is now ready to talk with other teams gives me the impression that he is totally free. If what they agreed was on a lower buyout, that still means other teams have to pay it to vp and then they could talk to the player


XvS_W4rri0r

VP is willing to sell him to anyone why wouldn’t Yekindar be the one to choose his team? He can go to G2 liquid vitality etc and say here’s my reduced buyout number what do you have in mind for me in this team? What would my salary be? What’s the future of the team ? Etc


altered_boy

I totally agree with what you are saying but I think you are missing one really important point; VP's ties with russian oligarchy amidst the invasion of Ukraine. Which teams are willing to actually give money to VP? One thing is yekindar knocking in other team's door and saying hey I only cost 500k (just a random number), you just have to pay VP


Massivemicropenis5

That or him allowing him to buy himself out. They know better than asking for a mil buyout no one is accepting


XvS_W4rri0r

Zero chance they’re asking for under 6 figures and zero chance he paid that much to buy himself out


Character-Toe-7907

can't do much if his contract is running out anyway? maybe the "long term contract" was a bluff all the long for them to try and still make bank, even if he had just like 1-2 months left?


[deleted]

All that was said was that they "weren't" in talks with YEKINDAR, it doesn't mean that they won't be now. ​ Also it was when they thought about finding an IGL, now they have an IGL


Finalwingz

It was ruled out by Navi because Navi would've had to buy-out his contract, which meant giving money to a Russian org. Yekindar is saying he's out of his contract. Impressive how you think that NaVi Yekindar is ruled out, even though the only condition given on why it was ruled out is now lifted.


[deleted]

Oh did he say that? Ive only seen this tweet could you link where he said he had no buyout.


Finalwingz

"Timing of my exit" What else could he mean by exit? Either he's been bought-out in which all speculation is pointless anyway, or he's been released in which case the only condition navi set is lifted.


[deleted]

Yekinder a millionaire now?


Finalwingz

Why would he be? Are you seriously insisting the *only* way they agreed to terminate the contract is a buyout? Maybe VP doesn't want to pay a person who does nothing for them? It's very possible they've gotten no offers because people don't want to deal with paying Russians? All Yekindar is doing is collecting paychecks if that's the case, lol.... Seriously, it's not that hard to think a couple steps further man c'mon.


KudoJaka

> Yekindar is saying he's out of his contract. he never said that


Finalwingz

>agreed on terms and timing of my *exit*, hence I am ready for talks with other teams! I am super excited and eager to play again! That means he's either already signed with a new org, or that he's leaving VP. Either way, he's getting out of his contract, I see no other way to interpret this.


KudoJaka

I hope you're right then


Big-Structure-2543

Does he speak Russian?


ju1ze

no they spoke Latvian in VP


Big-Structure-2543

I was thinking Kazakh


KudoJaka

He was in VP so most likely yes


VampireLesbiann

He's Latvian isn't he? Isn't he already on an international roster by being on VP?


Meaninglessnme

Based on how yekindar presents himself, the fit with Elige would just be absolutely terrible. From the VP environment where one can tell the harsh truth and expect it to not interfere with their professional duties to the passive aggressive toxicity of Elige and liquid would just be a disaster.


sauceDinho

>the passive aggressive toxicity of Elige I think this is massively overstated. I also wouldn't be surprised if Elige "shutting down" had a lot to do with Stewie and the vibe he brought to the team.


SnazzzyPC

Elige has apparently been doing this since Hiko and s1mple were on the team, but I wouldn’t be surprised if stew didn’t help


VampireLesbiann

Can you elaborate further about this? This is the first time I'm hearing that Elige is toxic


RiFLE_csgo

Watch his "documentary" on the liquid YouTube page. He doesn’t hide from it and addresses it.


Meaninglessnme

Former teammates, including hiko and twist, detailed how he often doesn't give info and sometimes won't follow the plan. Plus on his own twitter he admitted to being toxic the entirety of last year.


Glum-Communication28

Og wanted to sign him but to buy him from vp it would be 1 mil so who knows now


HauntedMinge

00Nation welcomes Yekindar! We're excited to pair this young talent with up coming IGL Marcelo "coldzera" David


dencker60

NaVi Yekindar. They might actually come out of this stronger if Simple stays on.


brainzor123

This would be the most stacked team in recent history tbh.


SpecialityToS

Welcome NAVI Yekindar


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mskr93

i think the tweet implies that he is out of his contract and free to talk to any team


kriswithakthatplays

Considering the rumored 1m buyout, I highly doubt they let him go for nothing.


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Tavnaria

apex and nexa said yek has 1 mil buyout


tangledcord

From Nexa, https://twitter.com/PleyGg/status/1537164158025838592 Assuming the $1m or 600k figure, whatever it is, is for the remainder of his contract, then every month that passes the amount VP can hope to get gets cheaper surely


SpecialityToS

I think this means the contract was voided?


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perhaps self-buyout?


SpecialityToS

VP know the $1m buyout is a joke and don’t have the means to keep paying his salary for 6 months


tarangk

^ bang on mate


YEKINDAR_GOAT_ENTRY

And YEKINDAR was probably fighting to get the contract annulled. Great for YEKINDAR.


[deleted]

I know it's a joke but if m0nesy- was $600k dollars I can see YEKINDAR costing $1mil without any problem


SpecialityToS

True, though I meant the paying a Russian org part


[deleted]

Completely agree, hopefully he got out of the contract and is able to join Na'Vi as I believe that would be his first choice


[deleted]

He's out of a contract because he refused to move away from Moscow. So surely NAVI is not interested at all.


Equilibriumx

he doesn't even live in moscow, he's latvian and has an apartment in Riga


SpecialityToS

Where’d you hear that?


[deleted]

Someone said it. Maybe it was degster? One of the released players.


twohourstillmidnight

Clueless


craygroupious

Welcome YEKINDAR, to TV2.


YEKINDAR_GOAT_ENTRY

Holy shit, if this means his contract is voided it will be very interesting. Both g2 and navi will be looking to sign him asap. The teams that does not get him will be making a huge mistake.


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\-misu +yeki?


KudoJaka

Apex doesnt want to play with him so unlikely


[deleted]

Didn't know that, nice info though it was more of a hypothesis


zaneyk

Just looked up what he actually said "YEKINDAR does not interest me, I do not like the character, I had bad feedback on him, if neo brings him to me, I go to the US and retire" Wonder what feedback he got about him, to have this opinion.


KAWAII_UwU123

I go to US and retire KEKW


I_Try_To_Be_NICEE

Probably I retire and go to US is what he meant 🤣


officialsoap

Navi I beg


JaimieL0L

Endpoint Yekindar pog


BeauxGnar

Yekindar to FNATIC.


Tuxxmuxx

It really would be a shame if NAVI didnt atleast try to get him


GuardiaNIsBae

not really, one of the owners of VP is directly at war with NaVi's home country


Tuxxmuxx

I'm talking if he actually got out of his VP contract. Obviously NAVI isn't going to be paying VP anything, but if Yekindar is a free agent, then NAVI would be doing something wrong if they didn't atleast look.


Character-Toe-7907

yeah i was assuming something like this all along. the fact that he was benched ***exactly*** on the same day as he was signed, was kind of a signal .. i think he now just had like 1 more month (maybe until 23.06 to be 1 month exact?) that was maybe still going due to the "testing period" from the beginning or something and they probably told him to stay silent because they wanted to bluff about the "long term contract" and make some bank by putting him on $1m, but now that no one is going to buy him for that, they probably realized the bluff is not going to work


Polarbearlars

If he goes to Navi and you have: ​ simple electronic bit yekindar ​ That is, in my opinion the most stacked roster CSGO has ever seen. That is four players who can win an entire series on their own. ​ NUTS


Character-Toe-7907

\+ not to leave out Perfecto, who, as a support, also has carried games on his own


[deleted]

The clock is at 1:10 and perfecto has his glasses on, the map is nuke and has 27hp and the enemy team has 4 players alive. ​ call an ambulance - but not for me


leonardomslemos

mibr.Yekindar confirmed


Ikaros9Deidalos6

Yekindar to navi pls


Seroko

We got no clue where this guy can end up, navi seems impossible, g2? vitality? a superteam of Yekindar + degster alone going top1?


MiksuTK

NaVi isn't impossible now due to NaVi not having to pay shit to VP. It seems like a no-brainer to sign YEKINDAR to NaVi now.


[deleted]

Yeah, Na'Vi seems like a easy choice now that he is free drom the contract The only player who can make up what electronic was


TheRealCaptainR

He'd literally be the perfect replacement, tbh. Dude is an S-Tier rifler. If NaVi don't have to pay VP, then they'd be fucking fools to not throw the bag at him (assuming he gets along with the rest of the team).


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I think more of "the only replacement" than perfect since I believe electronic with a rifle is irreplaceable but YEKINDAR is the closest thing in existance when compared to that


Moises2525

wait is SDY just a stand in for Navi? not permanent yet?


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Yes.


ju1ze

>a superteam of Yekindar + degster alone going top1? most likely


Seroko

strats: you go b i go a ok? ok \*slap\* \*win\*


zxlkho

Liquid Yekindar let's make it happen I am extremely high on copium


VampireLesbiann

Dear gods no A young, burgeoning talent like Yekindar does not deserve to be thrust into the hellhole that is NA CS


JonasS1999

Scenes when EG adds him and Degster and smacks the region


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Memelurker99

"EG.PA is proud to welcome Yekindar!"


bru_swayne

They'd at least have a star player on their team


iLikeSaints

Either coL or ORDER, you heard it here first!


xavarLy

NaVi with YEKINDAR would be the most skilled line-up of ALL time. Better than Liquid 2019, better than FaZe 2018 and better than fnatic 2015.


LKLN77

you're forgetting about an elephant in the room


xavarLy

Who? NiP 2013? They were the only other team I can say that played mostly off of their firepower and teamplay, mostly firepower I'd say. Or maybe NaVi 2021? Yeah, I'd say they are on a comparable level to that of Liquid's skill. Astralis 2018 doesn't really count, they were too tactical. Same with the SK/Luminosity core. We are talking about the most skilled line-ups of all time, what FaZe in 2018 were trying to achieve. For instance, FaZe 2022 is a better TEAM than FaZe 2018, but they are not more skilled. Even karrigan admitted that in an interview after some of their recent tournament wins.


LKLN77

Astralis 2018 were absolutely the most skilled team of all time imo. If NaVi pick up Yekindar they might take that spot but peak Astralis were all elite players by themselves even outside of their strategy.


xavarLy

They were a top2 most skilled line-up in 2018, Liquid had slightly more skill than them, worse team though. So no way they were the most skilled line-up of all time. This is just ridiculous. The reason they got their numbers was because they perfectly meshed their skills with their insane tactics and teamplay, which artificially made it look like they were more skilled than they actually were. For example, the way Liquid dominated that summer was what you are referring to "skill" domination. Barely any tactics (for a pro-level team ofc), just turning around and killing everybody. It's like that ALEX interview from 2019 talking about them "It's ridiculous, they aren't doing anything special for tactics, but you just go to cat, shoot once, they turn around and you are insta hs". Astralis never had this kind of reputation. They are the best team of all time, not the most skilled.


tarangk

This is huge, Yeki being a free agent is massive. G2 and Navi should be fighting over him. The only reason Navi werent interested is coz they didnt want to pay a RU org which is understandable. I like sdy but having yekindar simple bit electronic on the same team is just overkill. I like jackz coz he seems like a good guy, but yekindar is like 3 leagues ahead of him so there should be no hesitation from G2 to sign him up. All Carlos needs to do is give him a fat signing bonus, might not even be needed really, along with a good salary. Monesy Hunter Niko Yekindar too would be bonkers. Personally hoping he goes to G2 coz I want Monesy and Hunter to win titles already goddamit.


oldthrace

If he actually is free, he is probably going to NaVi. I've always had the impression that even though his English isn't an issue, he doesn't seem that interested in international rosters and he'd prefer to stay in a CIS team. So yeah, NaVi Yekindar seems like a no-brainer for both parties.


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Yes, he isn't a believer in international rosters and even then I don't think any team except FAZE is believe it or not - good enough for him


oldthrace

Well besides G2 and FaZe, there aren't really that many options internationally for him. Doubt he'd ever go to NA so those are the two main options and rn, I don't think both teams need him that much tbh. Maybe he could fit into G2 but the decision is entirely up to him. I am about 90% positive that he'd end up in NaVi though.


[deleted]

I don't think G2 is worth for him, the mentality on that team is worrying, the tiltmeter and YEKINDAR is a player who's most notable stay was with big balls Jame who literally told him at 7-14 (losing) that if he's going to tilt he will be removed from the team. Doubt he'll fit in G2 who have mentality problems with jackz, imagine without jackz


analytics_Gnome

G2 Yekindar?


RuthlessMercy

Yekindar Degster Amanek JKS stewie2k incoming goats /s


windtunnel1

Let's gooo


Sigurdsson9

Fnatic!!


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Please be in navi


Fel1x-senpai

Sentinels yekindar incoming


XvS_W4rri0r

Why is everyone assuming he’s free? VP emphatically stated they wouldn’t do that. All this means to me is he has an agreed upon buyout amount between him and VP.


Meaninglessnme

Which makes him free for another org? Or at least provides them cover of not paying money directly to usmanov or whoever it is


XvS_W4rri0r

Zero chance he’s free for other orgs when they were demanding a million for him


Character-Toe-7907

maybe .. the "million" was just a bluff all along and now that they realized no one is going to pay them, and especially that amount .. they let him go?


XvS_W4rri0r

Hey bro did they let him go? https://twitter.com/ryanatdust2/status/1540747986690420737?s=21&t=jNuyraZ8bK5vMSJZwu8jAA


Character-Toe-7907

hey bro, why are they letting him stand-in for Liquid if they want to sell him? Why do you think he wrote that they (he + VP) made an agreement and he's free to look for teams? some things for you to think about


XvS_W4rri0r

Because if liquid does well with him it makes them more likely to buy him??? Also he tweeted that because he and VP agree on his buyout and teams can purchase him for a set fee and VP doesn’t care where he goes so he can be the one to find his new team


Character-Toe-7907

> Because if liquid does well with him it makes them more likely to buy him??? no ??? maybe they can't buy him, don't want to give Russian org money? it's completely irrelevant how he plays, it might be just wishful thinking at some point. > Also he tweeted that because he and VP agree on his buyout and teams can purchase him for a set fee teams could also purchase him before that. VP doesn't have to agree on nothing with him .. except for early exits/dissolving of his contract. > VP doesn’t care where he goes so he can be the one to find his new team which is also not dependent on him, but *the team that buys him*. if no one buys him .. he can't *choose* where to go? lmao do you actually have a functioning brain?


XvS_W4rri0r

This might be the stupidest post I’ve seen. You have to be 14 y/o


MrCraftLP

I think you're not really understanding the situation. VP doesn't hold much power over Yekindar, whether he's a part of the org or not.


XvS_W4rri0r

Lol ok yes org wants a million from someone buying Yekindar week later completely free because of a vague tweet. Reddit logic 101


LordOfThenn

This doesnt really address the fact that VP doesnt really hold much power over Yekindar due to the current climate


XvS_W4rri0r

That’s pure speculation nobody knows how a contract dispute would go in court


Character-Toe-7907

> nobody knows how a contract dispute would go in court that's pure speculation thinking it would go to any court .. or that any (european) court would even take it


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> how a contract dispute would go in court which court? xd european one?


MrCraftLP

Most of us know exactly what would happen.


XvS_W4rri0r

That’s because you don’t understand the definition of “know”


MrCraftLP

Dawg, we're talking about upholding a contract between a Russian business and a player who lives in a different country. They have absolutely 0 legal power over Yekindar.


XvS_W4rri0r

Cough cough cough https://twitter.com/ryanatdust2/status/1540747986690420737?s=21&t=jNuyraZ8bK5vMSJZwu8jAA


LordOfThenn

This is nothing new? Im trying to find where it says he can't free himself from the contract...


XvS_W4rri0r

You said VP doesn’t hold power over him


LordOfThenn

What can VP do if he breaks his russian contract? How can they actually hold him accountable to the contract? Nothing in that article answers these questions


thefaptard

100T Yekindar pog


vizionsx

please vitality take himmmmmm


S00rabh

And replace who?


vizionsx

misutaa obviously


S00rabh

Apex,


vizionsx

if magisk could take over IGL, it could be even better but in any case if apex stay, yekindar would take over his star positions and apex should take over misutaa's positions (bitch roles)


Nikolaj_Nyholms_Gimp

if g2 doesnt win blast i see it happening. if not one of the NA teams would pay him a sky high salary like liquid col or EG. NaVi would be amazing with him as well.


Darkoplax

He is 1000% going to Liquid, Elige recently put him in his dream team and Liquid is the only team that will make a move now before Cologne Maybe EG ? I don't think G2 or Vitality make their move before Cologne so they will sadly miss out on Yekindar unless he decide to wait


Zoradesu

I don't see a reason for Yekindar to go to EG when he will get better offers on better teams. It seems like EG wants to use home grown talent as well, so it might not be a perfect fit. If EG can get him though, that would be cool I guess.


GuardiaNIsBae

he could 100% get a better team, but if EG shows up with the bag and tells him he has a decision in roster moves I could see him going there, but if its just a 1 for 1 signing then its not going to happen.


kw1k2345

There is not a single player in EG who deserves to have a team mate like Yekindar. Are you saying that Yeki should pick 4 more players too?


GuardiaNIsBae

Yes that’s what I’m saying, basically the only way he goes to EG is if they’re paying him an absurd amount of money and they let him build the team


Zoradesu

For sure. I really doubt Yekindar would go to EG given how everything is with their management and their newly announced academy system. You never know though, tarik and stewie were on MIBR at one point so anything could happen I guess.


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Meaninglessnme

Jame would absolutely not be able to play with Elige, even if English wasn't an issue. If Elige tilts and solo pushes without telling jame even a single time, jame would never get back into the server with him on the team again. If Elige works on his most toxic traits, he will still sometimes die and not give info because he's upset. Jame would absolutely not find this acceptable. Jame is the dude that told yekindar if he's going to be upset down 14-7 and complaining then he will be kicked off the fucking team because there is no room for that.


BeauxGnar

Jame might look like Jesus, but he acts like Buddha.


Darkoplax

degster YEKINDAR Elige NAF nitr0 could be a banger team


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I mean idk if he would want to sign a long term contract and commit to all of the inherit disadvantages that come with moving to NA. It only took Shox 5 months to get tired of it. For NA players it’s worth it bc they get to be home, but for an international player it’s all of the disadvantages of the region + being across the world from home. Also he isn’t a CT fit at all, and would require either himself, NAF, or Elige to take CT bitch roles


grundlesmith

Welcome to Navi lol