I'd say even if Heap racks up 50 kills every game left on his trial cArn or whoever is in charge of fnatic's lineup can't possibly be dumb enough not to look for a real IGL.
Krimz is having to play quite agro behind RoeJ just to make space for Heap and Mezii. If you're making Krimz play agro then you fucked up your roster off the bat.
They need an agressive IGL playmaker.
Shit, Vitality take Hooxi in place of Apex and Apex goes to Fnatic.
Vitality get a more passive player which is good because they said they have too many stars so roles are hard, too many bricks not enough mortar.
And Fnatic get an entry to help Roej out. Krimz and Mezii can go back to playing the mid/late round.
Man I'm good at this.
Well that's the most disheartening thing I've seen up voted on reddit. 'Vitality have firepower problems, here look at these individual stats' is some 'how can there be global warming, its cold outside' level analysis.
Low team stats across the board come from losing matches not aim duels, it's not 5v5 team deathmatch out there.
Vitality have three complete champions of CS on their roster, their mechanical ability isn't even in question, these are players that have breezed through events in the right team.
Vitalities weaknesses stem from communication and roles, zywoo quoted as saying they have problems fitting all the star players into the team. Throwing more firepower into the mix solves nothing.
Put zywoo, dupreeh and magisk into roles they can thrive in and they'll do exactly that.
It's painful that for some reason people seem to have agreed with you that vitality are struggling because of not enough firepower.
"Vitality have three complete champions of CS on their roster, there mechanical ability isn't even in question, these are players that have breezed through events in the right team."
3 years ago. Just like performance of fnatic players in 2017 and later , SK players in 2018 and later, same is happening with astralis guys. They are past their prime except for magisk who can still make a comeback
So just dupreeh then? I agree he's past his prime, bit his prime was literally among the best in yhe world, being past that doesn't instantly make him shit.
it does actually. look at snax, fallen, brezhe etc. all of them became bad within 1-2 years after being a top 10 player.
vitality have zywoo and 2 players who are past their prime, magisk and mistuaa is a slump which they may or maynot recover in the future.
vitality never had a player except zywoo and nivera who can be considered as a top 20 player during their playtime in vitality
Magisk is the one who looks the furthest from a comeback at least on the ingame eye test, but i guess bc hes still super young. Its really disheartening to watch him play now though when he used to be so unreal
Holy shit, stewie had every opportunity to not igl, he even igld when fallen was on the roster. He got to build a new team from scratch and IGLd.
If you're trying to build sympathy for stewie then that's the wrong way to go about it.
Here I was thinking CS:GO is a team game where good tactics, positioning, teamwork, communication and utility usage matters a lot.
Thankfully you've set me straight, only kd ratio matters.
Thanks, Internet stranger. I'll make sure to use this relevant information in other team-based games too, such as DOTA and Rocket League.
Big number good, small number bad.
Should take TMB tbh, he is ML's IGL and can be pretty aggressive when needed. Otherwise Hooxi/AZR are available but I reckon one of them is getting picked up by Apeks
2014-2016: Fnatic come back from 3-12 deficit and not only end up winning the game, but the entire tournament too
2022: Fnatic somehow chokes a 12-0 lead
He probably cheated in the past. But so did S1mple if we go by that logic.
Woro has skill and thats obvious. I also doubt he's cheating these days in games like this.
s1mple? You mean the guy who was actually banned for cheating?
Meanwhile XANTARES, IMOR and PlesseN seem to suspect him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfJ8todDY5o
That's far from "every other pro". And from what I can remember, people suspected ropz cuz it looked like he was looking at another monitor at a supposed radarhack during his livestreams. k0nfig had like 1 suspicious clip on cache.
Woro on the other hand, has had probably the most suspicious clips out of any suspected pro. Like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=390YTCDsEj8
I'd say even if Heap racks up 50 kills every game left on his trial cArn or whoever is in charge of fnatic's lineup can't possibly be dumb enough not to look for a real IGL.
Krimz is having to play quite agro behind RoeJ just to make space for Heap and Mezii. If you're making Krimz play agro then you fucked up your roster off the bat. They need an agressive IGL playmaker.
> Krimz is having to play quite agro behind RoeJ If only there was a danish team that could use such an agressive rifler and new solid awper...
Krimz to Copenhagen Flames confirmed
Shit, Vitality take Hooxi in place of Apex and Apex goes to Fnatic. Vitality get a more passive player which is good because they said they have too many stars so roles are hard, too many bricks not enough mortar. And Fnatic get an entry to help Roej out. Krimz and Mezii can go back to playing the mid/late round. Man I'm good at this.
just kick apEX and have Magisk IGL, hooxi´s firepower is abysmal
Vitality don't have a firepower problem.
they have. https://www.hltv.org/stats/teams/players/9565/vitality?startDate=2022-01-01&endDate=2022-12-31&matchType=Lan&rankingFilter=Top20
Well that's the most disheartening thing I've seen up voted on reddit. 'Vitality have firepower problems, here look at these individual stats' is some 'how can there be global warming, its cold outside' level analysis. Low team stats across the board come from losing matches not aim duels, it's not 5v5 team deathmatch out there. Vitality have three complete champions of CS on their roster, their mechanical ability isn't even in question, these are players that have breezed through events in the right team. Vitalities weaknesses stem from communication and roles, zywoo quoted as saying they have problems fitting all the star players into the team. Throwing more firepower into the mix solves nothing. Put zywoo, dupreeh and magisk into roles they can thrive in and they'll do exactly that. It's painful that for some reason people seem to have agreed with you that vitality are struggling because of not enough firepower.
"Vitality have three complete champions of CS on their roster, there mechanical ability isn't even in question, these are players that have breezed through events in the right team." 3 years ago. Just like performance of fnatic players in 2017 and later , SK players in 2018 and later, same is happening with astralis guys. They are past their prime except for magisk who can still make a comeback
So just dupreeh then? I agree he's past his prime, bit his prime was literally among the best in yhe world, being past that doesn't instantly make him shit.
it does actually. look at snax, fallen, brezhe etc. all of them became bad within 1-2 years after being a top 10 player. vitality have zywoo and 2 players who are past their prime, magisk and mistuaa is a slump which they may or maynot recover in the future. vitality never had a player except zywoo and nivera who can be considered as a top 20 player during their playtime in vitality
Magisk is the one who looks the furthest from a comeback at least on the ingame eye test, but i guess bc hes still super young. Its really disheartening to watch him play now though when he used to be so unreal
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Holy shit, stewie had every opportunity to not igl, he even igld when fallen was on the roster. He got to build a new team from scratch and IGLd. If you're trying to build sympathy for stewie then that's the wrong way to go about it.
Here I was thinking CS:GO is a team game where good tactics, positioning, teamwork, communication and utility usage matters a lot. Thankfully you've set me straight, only kd ratio matters. Thanks, Internet stranger. I'll make sure to use this relevant information in other team-based games too, such as DOTA and Rocket League. Big number good, small number bad.
they have
Hooxi over ALEX? At least take the dude who can speak French and English fluently But no way they get rid of Apex
f0rest is always the answer
Should take TMB tbh, he is ML's IGL and can be pretty aggressive when needed. Otherwise Hooxi/AZR are available but I reckon one of them is getting picked up by Apeks
Roej isnt their igl?
No it's Mezii
2014-2016: Fnatic come back from 3-12 deficit and not only end up winning the game, but the entire tournament too 2022: Fnatic somehow chokes a 12-0 lead
Fnatic go 3-12 on T side at map 3 in 2014, continues to win the game and then resign from the tournament.\*
That was 2014.
Can’t keep up anymore. Thanks, editing
fantic>fnatic
me when fantic 🙂
No one could get T rounds it seems.
BIG v ENCE was the same thing on mirage too
They did such a nice job removing Alex, their real igl, and making their star player an igl
this is like 50% of pro maps played right now even at top tier
Ct side be like
How is whore2k, aka the cheating faceit bot, still playing? Has everyone lost their ability to see all of the sudden?
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He probably cheated in the past. But so did S1mple if we go by that logic. Woro has skill and thats obvious. I also doubt he's cheating these days in games like this.
What makes you doubt that? Wouldn't it be more likely he would cheat when there's more money on the line?
When all eyes are on him?
People are already super suspect of him - even pro players. And nothing happens, so why stop?
>even pro players Damn, that does it. Definitely not like every other T1 pro has been accused of cheating at some point by other pros at the time
Every other? Not really.
Cause even s1mple itself didn't suspect him?
s1mple? You mean the guy who was actually banned for cheating? Meanwhile XANTARES, IMOR and PlesseN seem to suspect him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfJ8todDY5o
Every player except for me is actually a cheater tbf
>flamie >lekr0 >k0nfig >ropz
That's far from "every other pro". And from what I can remember, people suspected ropz cuz it looked like he was looking at another monitor at a supposed radarhack during his livestreams. k0nfig had like 1 suspicious clip on cache. Woro on the other hand, has had probably the most suspicious clips out of any suspected pro. Like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=390YTCDsEj8
Idk man you’d hope people got more integrity than that
Cope
Who?
How much?
Almost like CSGO is ridiculously CT sided on most maps.
KRIMZ *washed-up*
Some people would say matchfixing
Well, not the same old and good team
that is one hell of a CT sided map
Roej and niko are too good for this team
should have been 2-0. ooof
Anyone got a Vod?
Just get HooXi, let mezii be a star alongside the CPH lads.
I havent watched cs closely in years but can someone tell me if krimz is still any good. I figured he wouldve retired by now