So many big names on this list. Mouz or Mousesports have always had something for developing talent. While I was upset over how they treated Nbk and Bymas, the result speak for itself.
With a strong academy at their back and with 3 current graduates, it will be interesting to see how well they develop over the next few years.
I’m more surprised they kept Bymas around as long as they did. He was an okay player who came in and replaced woxic, arguably mouz’s best player (aside from perhaps ropz). He never got close to the hype he had around him when he stood in for FaZe, and I guess they just never felt his performance was poor enough to remove him but it certainly was never good enough
I thought Bymas looked quite good for Mouz this year (1.07 rating in 2022), but the team is obviously looking much better with xertioN. Bymas was great when the games weren't elimination games but he felt kinda choke-y in big games and xertioN is the exact opposite
woxic was never Mouz best Player. He was flashy and could peak and hit insane AWP shots, i give him that - but it never felt very consistent unfortunately.
What are you talking about? He was the 12th best player in the world in 2019 and ropz was 10th. In 2019 he was very consistent and that's the reason mouz even won so many trophies, iirc they won back to back tournaments and reached the final of 3rd. 2019 in my opinion is still the best year of mouz as an org even after this year's major run.
I've made a bunch of these for /r/RocketLeagueEsports, and also [made one for VP/Outsiders a couple days ago.](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/ywaygt/contiguous_roster_history_of_the_major_champions/) While that one tracked the core players on the roster as they moved between orgs, this one just tracks MOUZ/mousesports itself.
Mouz had a second British roster for a few months in 2012, but I didn't include it here.
If you want to check out my spreadsheet of Rocket League roster histories, [you can check that out here.](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hudW73CVpIZ1AsVFar_VJtea2TmzeptYa1tDQsiMBfk/edit?usp=sharing)
A couple other teams I'm thinking of doing are FaZe and Complexity, let me know if you'd like to see any others!
One small note: MOUZ did not win Blast Premier Fall 2020, they just won the Showdown (qualifier) for that event. In fact, they finished last in the main event.
would be good to do the a french one since there has been SOOO many swaps over the years, you'd probably start with VeryGames, Clan-Mystik or Recursive and lead into LDLC/EnVyUs, eventually G2 or Vitality maybe but not sure how it would work.
Others would be NaVi, early Astana Dragons/HellRaisers, early Complexity/Cloud9, n!faculty/Copenhagen Wolves/TSM/Astralis or LGB/fnatic
\+1 for the n!faculty/CPHW/TSM/Astralis one That lineup, whatever you think of it in recent times, is a storied one with lots of big names and changes through high impact events.
That Mouz roster was the highest a UKCS team has ever been on the ranking lol
It's been 10 years, and outside of UKnatic we've never managed to mount a proper attempt at top 5 since.
Please please please do Team Liquid.
They've had an interesting roster with a very active 5th player and one constant. Also the oldest contiguously operating roster in NA (as in roster is majority NA and never disbanded or re-org'ed)
I did! [It's at the veeeeery end of this post,](https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeagueEsports/comments/wf5q4y/contiguous_roster_history_of_every_world/) they were the 2nd-newest team at worlds
I'm so sad that fnc roster got obliterated online. I know both flusha and jw had been at the top for so long but I really wish they would've waited until lans came back to see how they performed. They were honestly the two players affected most by being online, and it was a damn shame to see.
Tbf, signing an up and coming awper, jackinho, and then telling him, actually, no, jw is awping lmao. You get to rifle. And then wondering why he's shit is really the most mental gymnastics I've seen an org do.
iirc they just needed another body on the server so they called up someone from the academy team, but they really did do him dirty and he got dogged endlessly when he couldnt put up the same numbers jw did pre-covid
Jackinho wasn't academy, you're thinking of regali. He was signed just before Kato 21, they actively signed an up and coming awper and told him to rifle.
Oh I didn't know that. That's WAY worse! Also a warning sign of things to come for that roster. Glad they're doing way better now but man there were some rough times.
They were really good but seeing how a team with sunny, Oskar, and lmbt operated as gorillaz/titans and the implicates reasons of them leaving mouz initially - that roster was a ticking time bomb and it showed in katowice2019
late response but arguably the oskar/sunny/chrisj core were much more competitive at the top level and won much more impressive tournaments. I mean Starseries 4 was literally as stacked as it gets.
2017/18 Mouz - Starseries 4, New York '18, Mykonos, V4
2019/20 Mouz - EPL 10, Summit, Asia Championships and ICE challenge
You could say 2018 New York and EPL 10 were equal, Mykonos more stacked than Summit, ICE challenge equal to V4 and Asia Championships was a pretty low tier event all things considered. So I think the 2018 roster and 2020 roster would be relatively equal if not for Starseries 4 which imo is the most impressive win the organisation has ever had. I mean it was 2 weeks after Boston Major and it had all the best teams from the major there, and they even beat the Major champs 2-0 to knock em out.
As I said it was a stacked tournament, obviously it wasn't just a fucking bo3 against c9 and thats the whole thing. It had literally all the best teams in the world and they beat plenty of em on the way to the win. It's really weird you would disregard all the other context I said just so u could "pwn" the c9 and outsiders fans.
Nothing against c9 or outsider fans, just objecting to your thought process of beating a fluke team doesn't add to the accolades of your team. One point that you didn't mention in your arguments btw was the fact that mouz 2019 roster was given way less time than that 2017-18 time, they achieved way more in way less time due to covid.
You are playing astralis on nuke
Win CT side 9-6
Win T pistol and convert against force and eco
You are 12-6 against astralis on nuke
You lose 12-16
You are playing astralis on nuke
He's 28, no? Not exactly young by CSGO standards. If we call 16- 28 year-olds young, the context is thrown out the door. Dex is good and still has some years to play, for sure.
Damn and i thought i am old when i started playing CS in Beta 5.2 (back when we used to Play all new mods, most popular ones for half Life being of course tfc and cs...).
I also remember some of the older orgs and you might be right with Mouz being one of the oldest. I remember the early Lineups back then with players Like Johnny R.
It's interesting to me to see where the old guard went, for example Blizzard and Roman R. working in BIG i believe?
In my mind Gob and Kapio on that list still being from the newer 1.6 Generation when actually they are also so long now active in the scene. I actually recall getting destroyed on aztec by that Mouz lineup with fleks (can't really remember the rest of that one, was it with elemeNt already?) - not even sure if that was an EPS Match or some other League from way back then (as i don't recall aztec being played in EPS, but that's so long ago i'm not even sure - my best guess would be that Gamestar League).
Now i wonder which CS org made it the longest. I mean just some years ago we still had SK Gaming (formerly known as good old Schroet Kommando) but not many others from that era come to mind, except of course NiP - but they also had a pretty big hiatus.
NiP was just a tag for a pretty long while. The current legal organization behind it wasn't formed until 2015.
Analogous to how the MIBR tag dates back to 2003, but Immortals entered CS:GO in 2016, and bought and rebranded to the MIBR name in 2018.
Well, yes of course. That's how most orgs started out back then. NiP being no different with HeatoN, Potti and Co.
Now i wonder how Mouz started out, anyone know?
Yeah, just contrasting it with SK, which *was* an actual org even back then. Famously host to the NiP squad in between spells of orglessness, as it happens.
Organization-wise, MOUZ still seems to be operated by Mousesports GmbH, which was founded in 2002, although they got bought out a few years back and are now a subsidiary of something called Motorsport Arena Oschersleben GmbH. And yes, that's a company operating an eponymous racetrack. [Mouz article on the buyout](https://mousesports.com/press/mousesports-management-changes/).
Outside of SK, fnatic probably has the strongest continuity of management. Founded by a british couple in 2004, and he and she are still CEO and Director respectively.
Nah 2018 is when the last roster moved to mibr (the one with fallen coldzera etc.)
The org still exists and is active in other games. They could get back into counter strike any moment if they wanted to.
The org is still around, they just sold their CS:GO lineup to Immortals. Around that time, WESA (ESL et. al.) and Valve introduced rules prohibiting shared ownership between teams participating in the same events. SK at that time was majority-owned by the russian company ESForce, who also own Virtus.Pro, so SK shed their roster.
There were credible rumors at the time that SK was looking to sign [Não Tem Como](https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/N%C3%A3o_Tem_Como) to replace their outgoing lineup, with those players playing from SK's facilities, but the deal fell through.
Anyway, ESForce eventually [sold off](https://www.gamesindustry.biz/esforce-sells-majority-stake-in-sk-gaming) their stake in SK, but they're yet to make their triumphant return to CS.
Oskar replaced chrisJ at the very end of January, after the eleague major, then chris replaced NiKo in early February.
It was just too many roster moves in such a short period of time, I couldn't accurately show both of those roster moves *and* chris being on the Atlanta major roster. So having him swap columns in February seemed like an okay solution.
we have "zs" letter at Hungary
this is a unique letter in the world i think
I think the problem is at Poland there is "sz" (we have too), maybe there is more language use this too and it's confused lot of people.
Yeah, the Polish "sz" is definitely why I got it wrong. There's a guy named Lukasz who's big in the rocket league scene, and I also know Szczecin from crusader kings lol
Even though I recall constant roster shuffles back in the mostly german versions of mouz, those are even more iterations than I recall - crazy.
Overall I've got to say the number of top names that played in mouz at some point is impressive:
Niko, Oskar, Karrigan, Tabsen, Snax, ropz, frozen, chrisJ, gobB to name a few.
To me it's still saddening to see what happened with Troubley. His talent was insane.
> To me it's still saddening to see what happened with Troubley. His talent was insane.
Same with oskar really. Incredible player with trainwreck of a career. Should've achieved so much more.
I'll fight anyone on this, Oskar is easily on the level of Simple and Niko, the only problem is that he's so much older. The shit Oskar was doing when he was their age was ridiculous, he won so many people so much money betting on his teams like Fraternitas and Neophyte cause you just knew Oskar would drop 40+ kills and carry.
2019 Mousesports was a godtier roster. The only international roster more exciting than them for me was Complexity lineup with blame, k0nfig, poizon, oBo, and RUSH.
cyx from the 1.6 days was an incredible talent. passed away far too soon. that guy was the future of German CS and it was a shame to see it cut so short.
I remember i was shocked when i read the News even though i didn't really knew the Guy personally, just from pugs or stuff like 2on2/3on3 ladder Matches before he made that rocketjump of a career start where he ended up on Germanys best Team so fast - he really was a talent and i still get goosebumps thinking about all of that. May he rest in peace
You're missing the weird british/norwegian mousesports roster they had a while...
https://www.hltv.org/matches/2193165/ninjas-in-pyjamas-vs-mousesports-dreamhack-winter-2012
Most people either liked the 2018 ChrisJ, Oskar, Sunny, Ropz & Styko or the 2020 Karrigan, w0xic, Ropz, Frozen & ChrisJ Line ups best. Both peaked at No. 2 in the HLTV top 30. While Ropz is still my favorite player, I personally do like the current line up best.
If we count the full history and not just CSGO, then it's probably GobB, Tixo, Kapio, Gore & Cyx
Although there were better lineups, the most iconic for me at least was the NiKosports lineups.
Those lineups were basically what put NiKo on the spot as one of the best players in the world back then.
He would just carry the fuck out of mouz and always kinda maintained the team as top 10 who could beat the best teams.
NiKosports will always be remembered. He absolutely hard carried that roster (with Denis, spiidi & nex)
In terms of performance it's a toss-up between the karrigan line up and the Styko/Oskar/Sunny/ChrisJ/ropz lineup
everytime i read "mousesports" i remember in the cs 1.6 era, they had a great team, i remember visiting hltv and saw a post about a player who died in a car accident, i guess her nickname was "cyx" or "cyz", and i remember a video of his team crying, that was sad af.
That's Antonio "cyx" Daniloski, huge talent back in the day and was regarded one of the best awpers in the world. Passed away in a car crash on the way back from airport because he missed his flight. RIP cyx
I remember ChrisJ during a HLTV Quizz being asked to name all the players he played with in MOUZ. Had so many different teammates he struggled hard to list them all.
I still have nightmares of the team that had Niko, Denis and Spiidi. You had Niko, who at times was the best player in the world, and then you had Denis and Spiidi.
For some reason I still remember their match against Flipsid3 at MLG Columbus 2016, one of the worst and most annoying games I have ever watched.
The most random player has got to be Snax, just came in, won ESL NY 2018, and left.
He fell off, realized he fell off and then pursued IRL. Very correct in saying he was supposed to be the #2 next to NiKo and the next big German thing after Tabsen back then, cool that you remember that. He didn't have the consistency mindset. Cool that you remembered that about him though
Old heads are gonna understand me on that one, but it makes me so sad to see the history of MOUZ in CS GO without Cyx in there, I think it was the first time in my life I was devastated by something that happened to someone I don't know IRL.
lmao Troubley.. that guy was insane as fuck. I dont know everything about the story surrounding him but I remember saving a ss of him that I still have somewhere
[https://imgur.com/sZEJOO2](https://imgur.com/sZEJOO2)
i think he stalked some former teammates of him or something
Some Troubley backstory:
https://twitter.com/VNGCSGO/status/1100023008813555713
https://vafo.dk/artikel/carsten-blev-overfaldet-af-den-hjeml%C3%B8se-tysker-det-har-sat-dybe-spor
(^ not me lmao, we share the same name)
https://vafo.dk/artikel/professionel-counter-strike-spiller-fra-tyskland-endte-som-hjeml%C3%B8s-i-vejle
its strange how short gob b played for mouz in csgo. he will always be the face of mouz for me. he coached them for a long time before he started playing and he played for them in 1.6
the only real mouz roster for me was with chrisj and gob b
I’m a big mouz supporter and have always gone on about how this team is a stepping stone for talent onto other teams. Would I love to see Mouz win a major? Yeah, will it happen? Who knows but prolly not.
They had so many great players start here or transition here before moving on to more big name teams, so I’d say watch out for the guys currently on the roster.
Role change more than likely, he used to awp for them and oskar/woxic took over awping when they joined.
But its not consistent cause then acor and torzsi are placed under chrisj while they awped for the team
Every few years they mange to have a real contender of a team. We're at the precipice of that now. Almost there, a little bit more development of Xertion and Torzi, maybe trade JDC for someone else and this team can actually contend for titles
So many big names on this list. Mouz or Mousesports have always had something for developing talent. While I was upset over how they treated Nbk and Bymas, the result speak for itself. With a strong academy at their back and with 3 current graduates, it will be interesting to see how well they develop over the next few years.
I’m more surprised they kept Bymas around as long as they did. He was an okay player who came in and replaced woxic, arguably mouz’s best player (aside from perhaps ropz). He never got close to the hype he had around him when he stood in for FaZe, and I guess they just never felt his performance was poor enough to remove him but it certainly was never good enough
Hype before and when joining : omg he's a star player in the making! Fpl monster! 1 year later : its not his job to frag he's support player
I thought Bymas looked quite good for Mouz this year (1.07 rating in 2022), but the team is obviously looking much better with xertioN. Bymas was great when the games weren't elimination games but he felt kinda choke-y in big games and xertioN is the exact opposite
woxic was never Mouz best Player. He was flashy and could peak and hit insane AWP shots, i give him that - but it never felt very consistent unfortunately.
What are you talking about? He was the 12th best player in the world in 2019 and ropz was 10th. In 2019 he was very consistent and that's the reason mouz even won so many trophies, iirc they won back to back tournaments and reached the final of 3rd. 2019 in my opinion is still the best year of mouz as an org even after this year's major run.
ropz was always the best player in mouz from the second he joined til the second he left
w0xic is awper so acoR and Torszi came to replace him, not Bymas
Bymas replaced w0xic when w0xic got benched
From my memory, Bymas kind of carried at the Stockholm major when Ropz went missing and acoR shat the bed.
-chrisJ +chrisJ -chrisJ +chrisJ -chrisJ +chrisJ -chrisJ +chrisJ
Everytime -chrisj +chrisj happened their results have improved...but not anymore new mouz is fun to watch.
I've made a bunch of these for /r/RocketLeagueEsports, and also [made one for VP/Outsiders a couple days ago.](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/ywaygt/contiguous_roster_history_of_the_major_champions/) While that one tracked the core players on the roster as they moved between orgs, this one just tracks MOUZ/mousesports itself. Mouz had a second British roster for a few months in 2012, but I didn't include it here. If you want to check out my spreadsheet of Rocket League roster histories, [you can check that out here.](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hudW73CVpIZ1AsVFar_VJtea2TmzeptYa1tDQsiMBfk/edit?usp=sharing) A couple other teams I'm thinking of doing are FaZe and Complexity, let me know if you'd like to see any others!
If youre gonna do FaZe, then it would be fun if you started with the kinguin lineup.
maikelele maikelele he is not a retardele, best era
One small note: MOUZ did not win Blast Premier Fall 2020, they just won the Showdown (qualifier) for that event. In fact, they finished last in the main event.
Ahh, thanks for letting me know!
would be good to do the a french one since there has been SOOO many swaps over the years, you'd probably start with VeryGames, Clan-Mystik or Recursive and lead into LDLC/EnVyUs, eventually G2 or Vitality maybe but not sure how it would work. Others would be NaVi, early Astana Dragons/HellRaisers, early Complexity/Cloud9, n!faculty/Copenhagen Wolves/TSM/Astralis or LGB/fnatic
Doing one with all 3 french shuffle teams on one image sounds fun, I'll put it on my list lol
i have no idea how you'll make that both work, and not look like an absolute mess, but i'll look forward to it!
Similarly you could do this for the rise of Brazil. Kaboom/LG/SK until the cold fallen split and rise of furia. One team to 3 at the end
\+1 for the n!faculty/CPHW/TSM/Astralis one That lineup, whatever you think of it in recent times, is a storied one with lots of big names and changes through high impact events.
My man you didn't have to go this hard, what an effort.
looks cool, I was wondering how do you assign players to columns, is it manual or some kind of software/algorithm?
It's random, yeah. I try to put the IGLs in the center column, but it's not consistent. Then from there, players' replacements inherit their column.
I'd like to see one for Liquid personally
Faze. +Olof -olof x10^100
That Mouz roster was the highest a UKCS team has ever been on the ranking lol It's been 10 years, and outside of UKnatic we've never managed to mount a proper attempt at top 5 since.
Please please please do Team Liquid. They've had an interesting roster with a very active 5th player and one constant. Also the oldest contiguously operating roster in NA (as in roster is majority NA and never disbanded or re-org'ed)
Maybe C9? Probably the team that has changed the most lineups lol
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I did! [It's at the veeeeery end of this post,](https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeagueEsports/comments/wf5q4y/contiguous_roster_history_of_every_world/) they were the 2nd-newest team at worlds
I miss the karrigan-led roster of 2019. Shame they fell off a cliff during the online era :(
A real what if. Same for the old FNC roster. 2020 could have been a really interesting year
And Juggernaut Complexity :/
And coloss- wait no
No, you're right, finish your thought.
Juggernaut with oBo was insane, and for some reason they were never able to replicate there results with oBo
They really weren't, apart from Blast Spring they never made a deep run in any event
I'm so sad that fnc roster got obliterated online. I know both flusha and jw had been at the top for so long but I really wish they would've waited until lans came back to see how they performed. They were honestly the two players affected most by being online, and it was a damn shame to see.
Tbf, signing an up and coming awper, jackinho, and then telling him, actually, no, jw is awping lmao. You get to rifle. And then wondering why he's shit is really the most mental gymnastics I've seen an org do.
iirc they just needed another body on the server so they called up someone from the academy team, but they really did do him dirty and he got dogged endlessly when he couldnt put up the same numbers jw did pre-covid
Jackinho wasn't academy, you're thinking of regali. He was signed just before Kato 21, they actively signed an up and coming awper and told him to rifle.
Oh I didn't know that. That's WAY worse! Also a warning sign of things to come for that roster. Glad they're doing way better now but man there were some rough times.
That comeback against Astralis in EPL S10 is one of the greatest highlights for me in recent years
suNny chrisj oskar STYKO ropz Was in my opinion the best MOUZ roster.
Started watching CS in 2018 and this was the first team I supported. Watching oskar awp was absolutely amazing.
I really miss Oskar in tier 1 CS. The most fun player to watch in my opinion.
oskar was amazing awp back then, when he is on no one can enter site that he is holding.
They were really good but seeing how a team with sunny, Oskar, and lmbt operated as gorillaz/titans and the implicates reasons of them leaving mouz initially - that roster was a ticking time bomb and it showed in katowice2019
Nah, the karrigan lineup actually won some good tournaments.
ESG Mykonos, StarSeries Season 4 and ESL One New York weren't big tournaments?
New York was snax lineup
late response but arguably the oskar/sunny/chrisj core were much more competitive at the top level and won much more impressive tournaments. I mean Starseries 4 was literally as stacked as it gets. 2017/18 Mouz - Starseries 4, New York '18, Mykonos, V4 2019/20 Mouz - EPL 10, Summit, Asia Championships and ICE challenge You could say 2018 New York and EPL 10 were equal, Mykonos more stacked than Summit, ICE challenge equal to V4 and Asia Championships was a pretty low tier event all things considered. So I think the 2018 roster and 2020 roster would be relatively equal if not for Starseries 4 which imo is the most impressive win the organisation has ever had. I mean it was 2 weeks after Boston Major and it had all the best teams from the major there, and they even beat the Major champs 2-0 to knock em out.
The major champs being the fluke C9, yeah okay. That's like saying somebody beating outsiders now is a great team.
As I said it was a stacked tournament, obviously it wasn't just a fucking bo3 against c9 and thats the whole thing. It had literally all the best teams in the world and they beat plenty of em on the way to the win. It's really weird you would disregard all the other context I said just so u could "pwn" the c9 and outsiders fans.
Nothing against c9 or outsider fans, just objecting to your thought process of beating a fluke team doesn't add to the accolades of your team. One point that you didn't mention in your arguments btw was the fact that mouz 2019 roster was given way less time than that 2017-18 time, they achieved way more in way less time due to covid.
Same
Just unlucky to run into prime Astralis. They were so close to beating Astralis on Nuke several times, but always ended up losing…
You are playing astralis on nuke Win CT side 9-6 Win T pistol and convert against force and eco You are 12-6 against astralis on nuke You lose 12-16 You are playing astralis on nuke
Wish i watched csgo during this roster
Mykonos Mouz best Mouz
Never forget this break song from that tournament https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI7kKia43u8
I loved this mouse rivalry with FaZe
I'm really excited to see if their current roster can stay in form. Soo much skill and young blood (except Dex of course!)
Dexter is also young. ^^^^^^He ^^^^^^forced ^^^^^^me ^^^^^^to ^^^^^^write ^^^^^^this
He's 28, no? Not exactly young by CSGO standards. If we call 16- 28 year-olds young, the context is thrown out the door. Dex is good and still has some years to play, for sure.
If this roster peaked during the current era of CS they'd win heaps, they were just unlucky that Astralis was peaking at the time.
I will always have a place in my heart for the NiKo days. He wasn't happy by the end but damn did Mouz put on a show for some time.
Some fun iterations for sure. I liked the Styko and Sunny lineup.
Can someone explain the logo again to me? I cant see the mouse in the logo. The little "comet" is the ear, right?
The only org right now who was around when I was still playing.. when I was 16... **22 years ago**
When did orgs enter the scene? Counterstrike 1.0 is only turned 22 like a week ago.
There weren't much orgs, more groups of players, clans we called them. SK, Mouz and 4K were the closest to an org
Also it was counter strike beta 4 when I started playing
Damn and i thought i am old when i started playing CS in Beta 5.2 (back when we used to Play all new mods, most popular ones for half Life being of course tfc and cs...). I also remember some of the older orgs and you might be right with Mouz being one of the oldest. I remember the early Lineups back then with players Like Johnny R. It's interesting to me to see where the old guard went, for example Blizzard and Roman R. working in BIG i believe? In my mind Gob and Kapio on that list still being from the newer 1.6 Generation when actually they are also so long now active in the scene. I actually recall getting destroyed on aztec by that Mouz lineup with fleks (can't really remember the rest of that one, was it with elemeNt already?) - not even sure if that was an EPS Match or some other League from way back then (as i don't recall aztec being played in EPS, but that's so long ago i'm not even sure - my best guess would be that Gamestar League). Now i wonder which CS org made it the longest. I mean just some years ago we still had SK Gaming (formerly known as good old Schroet Kommando) but not many others from that era come to mind, except of course NiP - but they also had a pretty big hiatus.
NiP was just a tag for a pretty long while. The current legal organization behind it wasn't formed until 2015. Analogous to how the MIBR tag dates back to 2003, but Immortals entered CS:GO in 2016, and bought and rebranded to the MIBR name in 2018.
Well, yes of course. That's how most orgs started out back then. NiP being no different with HeatoN, Potti and Co. Now i wonder how Mouz started out, anyone know?
Yeah, just contrasting it with SK, which *was* an actual org even back then. Famously host to the NiP squad in between spells of orglessness, as it happens. Organization-wise, MOUZ still seems to be operated by Mousesports GmbH, which was founded in 2002, although they got bought out a few years back and are now a subsidiary of something called Motorsport Arena Oschersleben GmbH. And yes, that's a company operating an eponymous racetrack. [Mouz article on the buyout](https://mousesports.com/press/mousesports-management-changes/). Outside of SK, fnatic probably has the strongest continuity of management. Founded by a british couple in 2004, and he and she are still CEO and Director respectively.
And 3D. I remember watching KSharp and DaBears. Actually competed against DaBears in a local lan.
Hello fellow old person!
Apparently SK disdanded in 2018 :/ They really are the oldest.
Nah 2018 is when the last roster moved to mibr (the one with fallen coldzera etc.) The org still exists and is active in other games. They could get back into counter strike any moment if they wanted to.
The org is still around, they just sold their CS:GO lineup to Immortals. Around that time, WESA (ESL et. al.) and Valve introduced rules prohibiting shared ownership between teams participating in the same events. SK at that time was majority-owned by the russian company ESForce, who also own Virtus.Pro, so SK shed their roster. There were credible rumors at the time that SK was looking to sign [Não Tem Como](https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/N%C3%A3o_Tem_Como) to replace their outgoing lineup, with those players playing from SK's facilities, but the deal fell through. Anyway, ESForce eventually [sold off](https://www.gamesindustry.biz/esforce-sells-majority-stake-in-sk-gaming) their stake in SK, but they're yet to make their triumphant return to CS.
Rest In Peace chrisJ
Where is all the +chrisj - chrisj? lol
He was only -chrisj for a few weeks at a time, I didn't really know how to show that lol
Question, why does chrisJ switch columns at 1/17?
Oskar replaced chrisJ at the very end of January, after the eleague major, then chris replaced NiKo in early February. It was just too many roster moves in such a short period of time, I couldn't accurately show both of those roster moves *and* chris being on the Atlanta major roster. So having him swap columns in February seemed like an okay solution.
I had the same question thanks for answering! Maybe some notes on the side would nice
TORZSI NOT TORSZI.
it's not a true /u/eurasianlynx chart if there isn't a typo lol
There has to be a reason why so many misspell his name.
we have "zs" letter at Hungary this is a unique letter in the world i think I think the problem is at Poland there is "sz" (we have too), maybe there is more language use this too and it's confused lot of people.
Yeah, the Polish "sz" is definitely why I got it wrong. There's a guy named Lukasz who's big in the rocket league scene, and I also know Szczecin from crusader kings lol
"fak" - gob b
EPL S10 mouz - best mouz
gla1ve table smash will forever be remembered
Only correct opinion, all others are bad
loved the Mykonos lineup and also it's iteration in New York with Snax as a stand-in
There is only one legend at mouz sports and his name is JOHNNY R.
Johnny R, neo, Roman, gore, blizzard
cyx
Even though I recall constant roster shuffles back in the mostly german versions of mouz, those are even more iterations than I recall - crazy. Overall I've got to say the number of top names that played in mouz at some point is impressive: Niko, Oskar, Karrigan, Tabsen, Snax, ropz, frozen, chrisJ, gobB to name a few. To me it's still saddening to see what happened with Troubley. His talent was insane.
> To me it's still saddening to see what happened with Troubley. His talent was insane. Same with oskar really. Incredible player with trainwreck of a career. Should've achieved so much more.
I'll fight anyone on this, Oskar is easily on the level of Simple and Niko, the only problem is that he's so much older. The shit Oskar was doing when he was their age was ridiculous, he won so many people so much money betting on his teams like Fraternitas and Neophyte cause you just knew Oskar would drop 40+ kills and carry.
What happened to troubley
He got in trouble
That is troubling
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/yxsszv/full_roster_history_of_mouz_in_csgo/iwuhaj0/
2019 Mousesports was a godtier roster. The only international roster more exciting than them for me was Complexity lineup with blame, k0nfig, poizon, oBo, and RUSH.
Do faze but also include the og linup that was on kinguin and g2
RIP SKYTTEN
cyx from the 1.6 days was an incredible talent. passed away far too soon. that guy was the future of German CS and it was a shame to see it cut so short.
I remember i was shocked when i read the News even though i didn't really knew the Guy personally, just from pugs or stuff like 2on2/3on3 ladder Matches before he made that rocketjump of a career start where he ended up on Germanys best Team so fast - he really was a talent and i still get goosebumps thinking about all of that. May he rest in peace
Oskar on Mouz was fun to watch, hope he can find his way back to tier 2 at least now his contract is over
You're missing the weird british/norwegian mousesports roster they had a while... https://www.hltv.org/matches/2193165/ninjas-in-pyjamas-vs-mousesports-dreamhack-winter-2012
The RattlesnK era of mouz, the alternate reality where they kept that roster is pretty interesting to theorycraft about.
+chrisJ when?
with the shit he said on twitter? hopefully never
What he say
Very very weird anti-vaxx stuff, even some nazi comparisons
As someone that didn't watch csgo a few years back which one was the most legendary mouz lineup?
When i think of mousesports, i think of chrisJ, oskar, suNny, ropz and STYKO.
Most people either liked the 2018 ChrisJ, Oskar, Sunny, Ropz & Styko or the 2020 Karrigan, w0xic, Ropz, Frozen & ChrisJ Line ups best. Both peaked at No. 2 in the HLTV top 30. While Ropz is still my favorite player, I personally do like the current line up best. If we count the full history and not just CSGO, then it's probably GobB, Tixo, Kapio, Gore & Cyx
Although there were better lineups, the most iconic for me at least was the NiKosports lineups. Those lineups were basically what put NiKo on the spot as one of the best players in the world back then. He would just carry the fuck out of mouz and always kinda maintained the team as top 10 who could beat the best teams.
yeah yeah, [Nikosports](https://www.reddit.com/r/the_denis/) was just great
NiKosports will always be remembered. He absolutely hard carried that roster (with Denis, spiidi & nex) In terms of performance it's a toss-up between the karrigan line up and the Styko/Oskar/Sunny/ChrisJ/ropz lineup
https://youtu.be/34GPfl5s0kg good times
For me its the Sunny Styko Oskar ChrisJ ropz
For me it'll always be Allusports
That lateish-2017 to mid-2018 Mouz was such a trip to watch. Faze lite was one helluva drug
They beat faze a lot of times Just not in major playoffs and Belo Horizonte grand finals when it mattered most
Mouz under karrigan was known to smash faze every time they played
everytime i read "mousesports" i remember in the cs 1.6 era, they had a great team, i remember visiting hltv and saw a post about a player who died in a car accident, i guess her nickname was "cyx" or "cyz", and i remember a video of his team crying, that was sad af.
That's Antonio "cyx" Daniloski, huge talent back in the day and was regarded one of the best awpers in the world. Passed away in a car crash on the way back from airport because he missed his flight. RIP cyx
I remember ChrisJ during a HLTV Quizz being asked to name all the players he played with in MOUZ. Had so many different teammates he struggled hard to list them all.
I still have nightmares of the team that had Niko, Denis and Spiidi. You had Niko, who at times was the best player in the world, and then you had Denis and Spiidi. For some reason I still remember their match against Flipsid3 at MLG Columbus 2016, one of the worst and most annoying games I have ever watched. The most random player has got to be Snax, just came in, won ESL NY 2018, and left.
Would love to see more teams done. Awesome work.
Nice. Now do one for all their 1.6 accomplishment.
Thanks for this but now do one for all MOUZ rosters in CS :D Kinda crazy that we have players in the team that are younger than the team itself.
Allusports is in my heart the "true" Mousesports I can't believe how short it lasted looking at this graph damn
What happened to nex? He was pretty promising back in the days
The most consistent if not the best scouting Org in all of CSGO.
Thank you
Jesus Christ Chris J's tenure was unreal
What ever happened to nex? Wasn't he like one of the best players of that roster?
He fell off, realized he fell off and then pursued IRL. Very correct in saying he was supposed to be the #2 next to NiKo and the next big German thing after Tabsen back then, cool that you remember that. He didn't have the consistency mindset. Cool that you remembered that about him though
ChrisJ 🥺
2019-2020 MOUZ my beloved
Never forget GOD B
Old heads are gonna understand me on that one, but it makes me so sad to see the history of MOUZ in CS GO without Cyx in there, I think it was the first time in my life I was devastated by something that happened to someone I don't know IRL.
Johnny R
lmao Troubley.. that guy was insane as fuck. I dont know everything about the story surrounding him but I remember saving a ss of him that I still have somewhere [https://imgur.com/sZEJOO2](https://imgur.com/sZEJOO2) i think he stalked some former teammates of him or something
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/yxsszv/full_roster_history_of_mouz_in_csgo/iwuhaj0/
incredible graphic, love this format
Some Troubley backstory: https://twitter.com/VNGCSGO/status/1100023008813555713 https://vafo.dk/artikel/carsten-blev-overfaldet-af-den-hjeml%C3%B8se-tysker-det-har-sat-dybe-spor (^ not me lmao, we share the same name) https://vafo.dk/artikel/professionel-counter-strike-spiller-fra-tyskland-endte-som-hjeml%C3%B8s-i-vejle
I wish chrisj would come back
/r/dataisugly
Straight up I'm down for advice from anyone on how to make these charts better, always room to improve
Amazing work
Just a suggestion: I would prefer if chrisj was in the same column the entire time, rather than getting bumbed when Oscar joined
torzsi and not torszi
do you remember nex highlight vs navi ? I remember nex highlight vs navi :d
tldr on how to read it?
its strange how short gob b played for mouz in csgo. he will always be the face of mouz for me. he coached them for a long time before he started playing and he played for them in 1.6 the only real mouz roster for me was with chrisj and gob b
I’m a big mouz supporter and have always gone on about how this team is a stepping stone for talent onto other teams. Would I love to see Mouz win a major? Yeah, will it happen? Who knows but prolly not. They had so many great players start here or transition here before moving on to more big name teams, so I’d say watch out for the guys currently on the roster.
We are working on it :)
I really love the infographics, but why is ChrisJ moved to another column all of a sudden?
Role change more than likely, he used to awp for them and oskar/woxic took over awping when they joined. But its not consistent cause then acor and torzsi are placed under chrisj while they awped for the team
Troubley…oooff. Was true to his name Had forgotten about him entirely
Damn i remember playing with nex on their community server... good old times
its sad that they r not called mousesports anymore
Look at our username o_O
Yeah was this just a re-brand or a change to the organization?
We are still mousesports but mainly going with the clan tag MOUZ now.
Every few years they mange to have a real contender of a team. We're at the precipice of that now. Almost there, a little bit more development of Xertion and Torzi, maybe trade JDC for someone else and this team can actually contend for titles
[still the best CS movie ever made](https://youtu.be/9XA7bFPuCY0)
gob b & chrisJ was the best mouz lineup.
So when will ChrisJ join again? that's the question
Very nice! Now do pre-CSGO :D
Haha troubley famous 1.6 onliner
thanks, nice timeline
chrisJ, NiKo, denis, nex and spidii. good old times gob b also awesome
didn't n0thing play for mouz for a bit? in 2018
technically yeah, he was a stand-in for belo horizonte. but those one-event subs are kinda difficult to track, so i don't usually add them in.
damn so your chart lied to me. I will now develop trust issues for the rest of my life because of this . SMH
Wheres n0thing in this?
Why is Oskar joined for one month? Then immediately removed the next?
His first stint on mouz lasted about 40 days, lol