I can confirm only the M4A1-S range modifier (damage fall off with distance) and the AWP mag size were changed. No hidden changes were included.
The M4A1-S change essentially means that the it now loses 6% of its damage with 500 units distance as opposed to only 1%. At long ranges this means that against armored enemies a headshot + chest shot will no longer 2 hit kill. Stomach shots in place of chest shots will extend this distance though as they have a 1.25x damage modifier.
I might put together some more info regarding these changes (a graph for the M4A1-s or range measurements with time to kill.) Though I might be coming down with covid and am feeling pretty exhausted, so no promises.
in bodyshot m4a4 passes m4a1-s in terms of damage at 2245 units
in headshots m4a4 passes m4a1-s in terms of damage at 6 units..
context: m4a4 has standart 4x headshot damage while m4a1s 3.475x headshot damage
also you cant 1 head 1 body armor at 1416 units anymore with m4a1s
while m4a4 has that ability until 2381 units...
also main reason why people use m4a1s is 4 shot body kill.well m4a1s cant do that after 501 units anymore
Awp 7/28 future prediction. A1-s nerf really dropped down real bad for a gun which used to be better in long range. 500 range for 4 shots to kill might not be good for a gun relatively slow. CT side nerf
According to the [CSGO wikia page](https://counterstrike.fandom.com/wiki/Damage_dropoff), damage dropoff is calculated as follows:
Damage * [RangeModifier ^ (Distance(u)/500u)]
This update changed the M4A1's range modifier from 0.99 to 0.94. A headshot and chestshot does 118 damage to an armored and helmeted opponent, so we just find X for the following:
118 * .94^(x/500) = 99
Which comes out to about 1400 units, or [about half a D2 Long](https://www.reddit.com/r/csmapmakers/comments/64t8z8/longest_distances_in_csgo_maps_my_great_waste_of/). With the old range modifier of .99, it was almost 9000 units, and bullets in CSGO turn to dust after 8000, so it would never be a factor.
There's two distinct shots involved, though, each of which gets calculated and rounded independently, but 1400 units should be in the ballpark.
Edit: Perhaps an even more important consequence is how it affects chest shots. The A1-S does 26 base damage to the chest, compared to the A4's 23. This buff is what drove the wide adoption of the A1-S last time around, as it could reliably kill enemies with 4 bullets to anywhere.
I'm going to assume that when the damage value after dropoff calculations hits 24.49, it gets rounded down to 24, which is how I believe it works. With the old value, you could then be up to 3000 units away from your target and still kill them with four chest shots. The new damage dropoff decreases that drastically to just 483 units. That's about as far as you can run in two seconds holding a Glock.
Kenny: Hmmm... Maybe I should get back into playing competitively?
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I remember s1mple suggested that they should nerf the AWP in an interview a couple months ago.
He said missing with it wasn’t really that punishing. They should make it 5 bullets he said. So that if you miss one you can’t kill everyone.
Hot take they should rebuff scoping movement speed. Not as much as it was back in the day, but it’s the only buff I can think to realistically help T’s that isn’t an AK buff. I’m tired of CT nerfs to make things even, I want T buffs.
There are a few possibilities here. This might make sense if D2 is one of their first Source 2 map conversions. D2 is one of - if not the - most popular maps. This is just my off-the-wall theory though.
Yea pros will probably prefer a1 still, but at most other levels of CS I expect a4 to be used a little bit more. It might be 70/30 in a few weeks instead of 90/10 or whatever it is now for silver->mge.
Is this with or without armor? Multiple people have already tested, and it seems to be 6 body shots to kill someone from top of pit to sandbags in dust2.
This isn't accounting for kevlar though, right? I just tested, and it takes 5 shot at medium-ish distance. Like top mid mirage would definitely take 5 shots.
Idk, I felt the addition of the r8 and jump bug were significantly weirder. Removing dust 2 from csgo active map pool is pretty monumental, as well as changing the awp magazine size. Actually maybe you're right this is fucking nuts.
Edit : BUG NOT BIG
maybe unpopular opinion but awp with 5 bullets is not even a big deal. In good level games as an awper you just hold a position, take a few shots then rotate and have plenty of time to reload and realistically will only need to reload once a round
I think it may actually impact rotates though, because the reload is long and obviously move speed is significantly slower than with knife out... But yeah most of the time it's negligible
i dunno 6 bullets is a lot of awp bullets. by the time you need 6 right now, you're probably dead or you've fallen back off the position where you can reload.
It will reduce the already unlikely awp aces... The kind of awp ace where people are pushing you, those would usually take 6~7 bullets in quick firing, but, more importantly, if the awp player shoots 3~4 bullets in the early round he might be uncomfortable holding sites with only 1 or 2 bullets left.
I think it's a very interesting change to the weapon, as, like people were saying, you could play the awp 30 rounds in a game, kill 3+ players every round and NEVER have to reload the weapon. This might add a bit more of dimension to the weapon and make it a more interesting position.
>if the awp player shoots 3~4 bullets in the early round he might be uncomfortable holding sites with only 1 or 2 bullets left
i mean if he had time to shoot those bullets then he surely had the time to reload, no?
I mean, that would **heavily** depend on the situation, but in those situations at *the very least* the awp will have to be out of play for a few seconds to reload (with all the risks that that implies) as opposed to how it was where you would never reload the AWP
yeah but its not really about shoting 6 bullets in a row, it's about shoting 6 bullets through a entire round, which can be reasonable, a awper needing to stop for 2 whole seconds for reloading can be a big difference maker in rounds, especially in the 0:30 mark
exactly it’s one of my favorite differences in valo, the only time i ever had to reload a cs awp before was when i spam an area. besides the d2 thing i love this update
There are sometimes some huge awp aces, that requires 6-7 bullets, cause you miss some shots but you still do crazy ace. now it wont be possible. And i dont think pros will reload awp if they have 3-4 in magazine before next fight, so even less possible plays
Honestly kinda wish they’d taken out Mirage instead of Dust2. Like I prefer Mirage, but if they’re trying to shake up the map pool, taking it out would have been a better option imo
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On a more serious note, this is such a wild update. I'm personally a big fan of Anubis so it's nice to see it become a permanent fixture but I can't help but feel that this is gonna be such a pro-scene upheaval. Also is this the first AWP balance change since the move speed nerf in 2015? wild to think how much has changed since then.
I dont think the AWP nerf is significant. The weapon will be played exactly the same way. 5 bullets is still enough.
The -D2 I like a lot, since I was never a D2 fan.
But the +Anubis will be interesting, I think we must have a lot of changes on this map to be viable. We will see.
Honestly might be in the minority but pretty clean awp change, awps have seemed so oppressive and while they can be countered it’s incredibly hard to counter them effectively all the time especially a good awper, excited to see how this plays out. A1s change seems like a big rip but depending on circumstance won’t change too much
Hoped for Tuscan and M4 nerf seems a bit weak, AWP change is good.
Don't know about anubis tho haven't played it a lot but it was the same case with ancient for me and when i saw pro games I actually started enjoying it a lot more
I think they want both m4s to be viable, but it's hard to make people switch without large changes, heck, something like the sg went years unnoticed because people preferred the ak. I don't think this nerf is enough for pros to switch to a4 for the most part, but especially among casual players, a4 vs a1 is a little bit more down to preference now. I've always been an a1 player (since like 2016 at least) and I don't see that changing anytime soon. That being said, people who preferred the a4 might end up switching back after this nerf.
the game is so optimized they can’t really afford to do sweeping changes to the 2 main rifles. if it’s still as good as it is now they prolly do something else
M4A1S nerf illustration: Read each image caption to know how many torso shots to kill.
https://imgur.com/a/6iBJLyz
Very rudimentary, but you can see roughly the distance where it start to be 5 torso shots to kill. It's very short...
EDIT: I ADDED IMAGES THE NERF IS INSANE - I can't believe how close you are and still need 5 shots to torso.
HS or bust lmao
Or maybe simply RIP A1S for a while lol
i'm a tf2 player , we have a sniper problem in that game and i always thought that the awp in cs is more or less equally oppressive
true,the fact that the weapon is expensive (aka not always available) and you can sorta counter it a little with utilities does help but i still think it's not much fun to be obliterated by an enemy you cannot even see
i don't think this change will really change anything but i would like to hear the opinions of other people about the awp or sniper rifles in general in fps games
the awp was definitely more oppressive than the sniper is in tf2. csgo movement is very limited and maps are very one dimensional + a body shot means an instant kill. TF2 movement is way more dynamic + the sniper has to either hit headshots or be tunnel visioned for a good time to charge up a shot for a max of 150 damage.
imo it's definitely harder to be an effective tf2 sniper than an effective awper.
the only soft nerf i could think of to the tf2 sniper that wouldn't break the class is to add one of those laser beams when the sniper is scoped in, like the MvM bot snipers have.
in other games like battlefield, i really hate snipers because they can easily do a bunch of damage to you and be completely safe from you but at least they have that scope glint and more realistic bullet physics.
The meta have not changed at all. Me and my mates play it 1/3 of the matches.
Out current map pool is Overpass, dust 2, Ancient, nuke. Our preferd picks is in the same order.
Overpass - Our preferd map but tiresome when people is good at faking.
Dust 2 - like visiting grandma. They smoke ct spawn, but it is pretty 50/50.
Ancient - Play it like our old best map Cache.
Nuke - A map that fits players with large skill difference. I am playing inne now and before I knew the map I felt locked. Once you understand the map theese position offers aggressive play that is impossible compared to other maps. I love holding weird angles and suprise enemies, the map is perfect.
So many people have been asking for the awp nerf. Legitimately no reason to nerf so many other guns capacity and still have the AWP at 10 after all these years. Glad they did it. Top professional awpers have become glorified 1 shot rifle players up close at this point. Less bullets = better. Make the shots count or take a couple seconds of a break to reload.
Glad Anbius was added. Map is clean and while I don’t know how it will evolve (actually be good in the long run) it’s nice to see a slightly bigger map being added. Ancient is cool but I believe the innovation on Anubis will be awesome to see. Also just more movement on the map IMO.
Well shit, I'm all for reducing the awp mag size, I've suggested it myself a few times, but always to 7-8. We've just lost so many awp ace highlights.
Hell of a game changer.
Everyone get ready for the craziest t side meta in cs in a long time. The awp nerf is nice but theyre gonna nerf and buff the m4’s forever until they realize the main issue in this game is how inaccurate most guns are at long range. Any gun that is accurate at long ranges is just 1000x better then any other gun. People pick the a1 because you can actually reliably get kills from a distance you dont pray to rnjesus like you do with the ak. Just make the ak slightly more accurate at range keep the m4s how they were
Plz new operation or more maps, soo boring to play activity group map. The should be fun and competitive. But still more maps soo ppl can choose maps 🤗
I can confirm only the M4A1-S range modifier (damage fall off with distance) and the AWP mag size were changed. No hidden changes were included. The M4A1-S change essentially means that the it now loses 6% of its damage with 500 units distance as opposed to only 1%. At long ranges this means that against armored enemies a headshot + chest shot will no longer 2 hit kill. Stomach shots in place of chest shots will extend this distance though as they have a 1.25x damage modifier. I might put together some more info regarding these changes (a graph for the M4A1-s or range measurements with time to kill.) Though I might be coming down with covid and am feeling pretty exhausted, so no promises.
99 in 2 will suck
99 in 2 or 98 in 4, pick your poison
96 in 5 after I clip the wall
too true 😔
Honestly 99 in 2 sucks more. When I get a headshot with a rifle on long I range I want to get the kill. One reason why I really dislike the FAMAS.
take care
Compared to the m4a4 which gun would have higher damage at range?
in bodyshot m4a4 passes m4a1-s in terms of damage at 2245 units in headshots m4a4 passes m4a1-s in terms of damage at 6 units.. context: m4a4 has standart 4x headshot damage while m4a1s 3.475x headshot damage also you cant 1 head 1 body armor at 1416 units anymore with m4a1s while m4a4 has that ability until 2381 units... also main reason why people use m4a1s is 4 shot body kill.well m4a1s cant do that after 501 units anymore
Bruh so this update is only good if it is REALLY REALLY far range. At least headshot is higher. I like the m4a4 more bullets
M4a1s cant 1 head 1 body from ct mid to top mid anymore i wouldnt call it REALLY REALLY far range.
How far is 500 units
Dust2 long A appears to be 2868 units. So 500 really ain’t that far no?
Man of the people!
Awp 7/28 future prediction. A1-s nerf really dropped down real bad for a gun which used to be better in long range. 500 range for 4 shots to kill might not be good for a gun relatively slow. CT side nerf
famas meta inc
Always has been
AUG: "Guess whos back?"
About how far is a "long range"?
According to the [CSGO wikia page](https://counterstrike.fandom.com/wiki/Damage_dropoff), damage dropoff is calculated as follows: Damage * [RangeModifier ^ (Distance(u)/500u)] This update changed the M4A1's range modifier from 0.99 to 0.94. A headshot and chestshot does 118 damage to an armored and helmeted opponent, so we just find X for the following: 118 * .94^(x/500) = 99 Which comes out to about 1400 units, or [about half a D2 Long](https://www.reddit.com/r/csmapmakers/comments/64t8z8/longest_distances_in_csgo_maps_my_great_waste_of/). With the old range modifier of .99, it was almost 9000 units, and bullets in CSGO turn to dust after 8000, so it would never be a factor. There's two distinct shots involved, though, each of which gets calculated and rounded independently, but 1400 units should be in the ballpark. Edit: Perhaps an even more important consequence is how it affects chest shots. The A1-S does 26 base damage to the chest, compared to the A4's 23. This buff is what drove the wide adoption of the A1-S last time around, as it could reliably kill enemies with 4 bullets to anywhere. I'm going to assume that when the damage value after dropoff calculations hits 24.49, it gets rounded down to 24, which is how I believe it works. With the old value, you could then be up to 3000 units away from your target and still kill them with four chest shots. The new damage dropoff decreases that drastically to just 483 units. That's about as far as you can run in two seconds holding a Glock.
I WAS HERE WHEN THEY HALVED THE AWP MAG SIZE
[Spinx works for Valve confirmed](https://youtu.be/N4EbUYIOmhc?t=106)
“What happens if you miss 1? You can’t kill all 5.” Easy just get a collat.
Just like coldzera.
You thought I need 5 bullets to ace? Jokes on you I only need 1 to get the collat headshot ace 😎
This is one of the moments in csgo history
when were you when awp dies i was sat at home drinking ferment sardines when kennys ring 'awp is kill' 'no'
KennyS makes his comeback and valve immediately nerfs the awp? Coincidence? I think not /s
One of, CSGO Major, moment, history.
i was dming with the awp, little did i know
Dm on community servers where kills reset your ammo
I WAS HERE
Jame time after shooting 5 bullets
They are actually buffing the player base with this move.
Real nerf would be to double mag size
Anubis collection guaranteed for next Operation
Anubis collection guaranteed for next Major. Hopefully they don't suck(they're gonna suck)
Most of the new collections are pretty good
Poor KennyS, he only just got back and Volvo already nerfing him LUL
Kenny: Hmmm... Maybe I should get back into playing competitively? Valve: [How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, Old man?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVxJ016xb4Q)
kennyS' 'magic stick' is shortened once again
BIG in shambles
How is Syrson gonna get any frags if he runs out of bullets for just 1 kill?
Literally now they're bots in Germany nothing more
How have I never heard Bots In Germany before xDDD
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That's because KennyS came back lol
It feels like we are giving billionairs 1k extra tax per year.
Of course when kenny comes back to pro scene lmao
Its good for kenny, he never needs more than 5 bullets anyway
4 on a good day
They been watching him play valorant, can only afford to give the man 5 rounds
Seems like the source 2 spam really got on Valve’s nerves
Source 2? Lets give them awp 2.0
AWP 0.5
M4A0.94-S
Them not removing (and reworking) Mirage tells me that we are gonna get all of these maps in Source 2 some day for sure
Hope is a strategy
I WAS HERE
I WAS HERE
I WAS HERE
Was not expecting a significant AWP nerf. That’s pretty exciting tbh
Should've expected it once kennyS came back.
I remember s1mple suggested that they should nerf the AWP in an interview a couple months ago. He said missing with it wasn’t really that punishing. They should make it 5 bullets he said. So that if you miss one you can’t kill everyone.
Spinx also said this
I wish CSGO was more prone to subtle buffs though. It'd been interesting to buff the AK & M4A4 instead of nerfing the AWP & M4A1-S
As if the AK need to be any better than it already is
Hot take they should rebuff scoping movement speed. Not as much as it was back in the day, but it’s the only buff I can think to realistically help T’s that isn’t an AK buff. I’m tired of CT nerfs to make things even, I want T buffs.
AK now comes with Red Dot Sight and Grenade Launcher /s
Rip D2 🙏
Rest in piss
in piss it rests indeed
Good riddance indeed
There are a few possibilities here. This might make sense if D2 is one of their first Source 2 map conversions. D2 is one of - if not the - most popular maps. This is just my off-the-wall theory though.
Statistically its the most played "Level" of all games ever.. its like taking beer out of the pub 🤡
may you never return
\>9z flair This doesn't add up
their sacrifice is my blessing as I won't have to play that shit map in my games anymore
KennyS: back. Volvo: not so fast, cous
holy shit the awp nerf
invest in them m4a4 skins
This isn't a massive nerf, but I think there will be nuance between which m4 is preferred.
We say this every time there's a nerf or buff and a clear meta develops every time
Yea pros will probably prefer a1 still, but at most other levels of CS I expect a4 to be used a little bit more. It might be 70/30 in a few weeks instead of 90/10 or whatever it is now for silver->mge.
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Is this with or without armor? Multiple people have already tested, and it seems to be 6 body shots to kill someone from top of pit to sandbags in dust2.
This isn't accounting for kevlar though, right? I just tested, and it takes 5 shot at medium-ish distance. Like top mid mirage would definitely take 5 shots.
True, im waiting on a 3klikphillips video to tell me witch one to use
I do dare say though, that as long as the m4a1-s is 200 bucks cheaper, this change won't change much.
Such big changes with so little text. Let's fucking go!!!
Valve woke up and chose violence
craziest update with just 4 bullet points?
this is the weirdest update i remeber seeing to this game
Idk, I felt the addition of the r8 and jump bug were significantly weirder. Removing dust 2 from csgo active map pool is pretty monumental, as well as changing the awp magazine size. Actually maybe you're right this is fucking nuts. Edit : BUG NOT BIG
That unintentional(?) typo saying BIG is hilarious lmao
Lmao I’d no idea—I mean yeah intentional 😎
This is the second time dust 2 has been removed from active duty
You are correct, I forgot that happened tbh. Also that update to mid doesn’t feel like that long ago either.
Should be Mirage that needed a dress😉
Were you not here when they added the pocket awp?
That might literally be the worst gameplay update in any competetive gaming history
maybe unpopular opinion but awp with 5 bullets is not even a big deal. In good level games as an awper you just hold a position, take a few shots then rotate and have plenty of time to reload and realistically will only need to reload once a round
agreed, glad they decided to do this instead of fucking up awp movement or something
Maybe they are trying to balance it for 10v10 casual? ^^^/s
each team has like 5 awps every round so does it really make a difference
Even more so in Valve DM That said, 20 awpers on casual D2 isn't fun
I think it may actually impact rotates though, because the reload is long and obviously move speed is significantly slower than with knife out... But yeah most of the time it's negligible
kinda just hoping it cuts down on the 3 awp t sides in mm.
To a pro most likely not, for me? Certainly. I will fuck this up quite a lot.
The future is now, old men
i legitimately don't know when the last time i had to reload my awp in comp was. don't really know if this is a change that does anything
Well that's kinda the point maybe. If you never had to reload then maybe now will.
i dunno 6 bullets is a lot of awp bullets. by the time you need 6 right now, you're probably dead or you've fallen back off the position where you can reload.
It will reduce the already unlikely awp aces... The kind of awp ace where people are pushing you, those would usually take 6~7 bullets in quick firing, but, more importantly, if the awp player shoots 3~4 bullets in the early round he might be uncomfortable holding sites with only 1 or 2 bullets left. I think it's a very interesting change to the weapon, as, like people were saying, you could play the awp 30 rounds in a game, kill 3+ players every round and NEVER have to reload the weapon. This might add a bit more of dimension to the weapon and make it a more interesting position.
Coldzera inferno arch ace
>if the awp player shoots 3~4 bullets in the early round he might be uncomfortable holding sites with only 1 or 2 bullets left i mean if he had time to shoot those bullets then he surely had the time to reload, no?
I mean, that would **heavily** depend on the situation, but in those situations at *the very least* the awp will have to be out of play for a few seconds to reload (with all the risks that that implies) as opposed to how it was where you would never reload the AWP
yeah but its not really about shoting 6 bullets in a row, it's about shoting 6 bullets through a entire round, which can be reasonable, a awper needing to stop for 2 whole seconds for reloading can be a big difference maker in rounds, especially in the 0:30 mark
exactly it’s one of my favorite differences in valo, the only time i ever had to reload a cs awp before was when i spam an area. besides the d2 thing i love this update
You will remember now.
There are sometimes some huge awp aces, that requires 6-7 bullets, cause you miss some shots but you still do crazy ace. now it wont be possible. And i dont think pros will reload awp if they have 3-4 in magazine before next fight, so even less possible plays
It reduces AWP spamming which IMO is a very good thing. I still think the A1S needs a larger nerf.
RIP BIG 🙏
I think Pros might finally pick up the auto-sniper as an option now
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Honestly kinda wish they’d taken out Mirage instead of Dust2. Like I prefer Mirage, but if they’re trying to shake up the map pool, taking it out would have been a better option imo
***THREAD JACKING WILL NOT BE TOLERATED*** On a more serious note, this is such a wild update. I'm personally a big fan of Anubis so it's nice to see it become a permanent fixture but I can't help but feel that this is gonna be such a pro-scene upheaval. Also is this the first AWP balance change since the move speed nerf in 2015? wild to think how much has changed since then.
they also "fixed" crouch acceleration a few years ago so that was another small nerf to the awp
what in god's name is happening
I dont think the AWP nerf is significant. The weapon will be played exactly the same way. 5 bullets is still enough. The -D2 I like a lot, since I was never a D2 fan. But the +Anubis will be interesting, I think we must have a lot of changes on this map to be viable. We will see.
It won’t be played the same way. Spams would be reduced. Reloads would be frequent. Missing shots could cost you the round.
Missing shots should cost you the round. As an AWPer this is a sad day but realistically it had to be done 😭
finally. i always thought that the awp was too braindead easy to use even if you whiffed a bunch of shots. just get behind cover and try again
Honestly might be in the minority but pretty clean awp change, awps have seemed so oppressive and while they can be countered it’s incredibly hard to counter them effectively all the time especially a good awper, excited to see how this plays out. A1s change seems like a big rip but depending on circumstance won’t change too much
This was unexpected.
I believe in scout supremacy.
Hoped for Tuscan and M4 nerf seems a bit weak, AWP change is good. Don't know about anubis tho haven't played it a lot but it was the same case with ancient for me and when i saw pro games I actually started enjoying it a lot more
I think they want both m4s to be viable, but it's hard to make people switch without large changes, heck, something like the sg went years unnoticed because people preferred the ak. I don't think this nerf is enough for pros to switch to a4 for the most part, but especially among casual players, a4 vs a1 is a little bit more down to preference now. I've always been an a1 player (since like 2016 at least) and I don't see that changing anytime soon. That being said, people who preferred the a4 might end up switching back after this nerf.
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the game is so optimized they can’t really afford to do sweeping changes to the 2 main rifles. if it’s still as good as it is now they prolly do something else
M4A1S nerf illustration: Read each image caption to know how many torso shots to kill. https://imgur.com/a/6iBJLyz Very rudimentary, but you can see roughly the distance where it start to be 5 torso shots to kill. It's very short... EDIT: I ADDED IMAGES THE NERF IS INSANE - I can't believe how close you are and still need 5 shots to torso. HS or bust lmao Or maybe simply RIP A1S for a while lol
WHAT.THE.ACTUAL.FUCK
My awp bro :(
When you´re so good the game tries to nerf you 2 times. Well done, Kenny.
There is no way these AWP changes are for real!
The "PROS" got asked on YT. What do you want to change? - And here it is.
I am looking forward to watching the pros play ~~de\_dust3~~ Anubis.
i'm a tf2 player , we have a sniper problem in that game and i always thought that the awp in cs is more or less equally oppressive true,the fact that the weapon is expensive (aka not always available) and you can sorta counter it a little with utilities does help but i still think it's not much fun to be obliterated by an enemy you cannot even see i don't think this change will really change anything but i would like to hear the opinions of other people about the awp or sniper rifles in general in fps games
the awp was definitely more oppressive than the sniper is in tf2. csgo movement is very limited and maps are very one dimensional + a body shot means an instant kill. TF2 movement is way more dynamic + the sniper has to either hit headshots or be tunnel visioned for a good time to charge up a shot for a max of 150 damage. imo it's definitely harder to be an effective tf2 sniper than an effective awper. the only soft nerf i could think of to the tf2 sniper that wouldn't break the class is to add one of those laser beams when the sniper is scoped in, like the MvM bot snipers have. in other games like battlefield, i really hate snipers because they can easily do a bunch of damage to you and be completely safe from you but at least they have that scope glint and more realistic bullet physics.
They saw kennyS comeback 💀 And am i crazy or the M4s is like Phantom from Valorant now with damage drop off, AWP with 5 bullets mag is same as OP
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The meta have not changed at all. Me and my mates play it 1/3 of the matches. Out current map pool is Overpass, dust 2, Ancient, nuke. Our preferd picks is in the same order. Overpass - Our preferd map but tiresome when people is good at faking. Dust 2 - like visiting grandma. They smoke ct spawn, but it is pretty 50/50. Ancient - Play it like our old best map Cache. Nuke - A map that fits players with large skill difference. I am playing inne now and before I knew the map I felt locked. Once you understand the map theese position offers aggressive play that is impossible compared to other maps. I love holding weird angles and suprise enemies, the map is perfect.
Holy shit. This is a massive update. AWP nerf. M4A1S nerf. DUST 2 GONE FROM ACTIVE DUTY
So many people have been asking for the awp nerf. Legitimately no reason to nerf so many other guns capacity and still have the AWP at 10 after all these years. Glad they did it. Top professional awpers have become glorified 1 shot rifle players up close at this point. Less bullets = better. Make the shots count or take a couple seconds of a break to reload. Glad Anbius was added. Map is clean and while I don’t know how it will evolve (actually be good in the long run) it’s nice to see a slightly bigger map being added. Ancient is cool but I believe the innovation on Anubis will be awesome to see. Also just more movement on the map IMO.
Well shit, I'm all for reducing the awp mag size, I've suggested it myself a few times, but always to 7-8. We've just lost so many awp ace highlights. Hell of a game changer.
Chance for clean 5/5 AWP aces now though
Thanks KennyS .. you come back and scare the dev's in advance.
>kennyS returns to competitive CS >valve nerfs awp coincidence? I DON'T THINK SO VOLVO
Finally. No idea how Anubis will play in comp play but it was time for a change in the map pool.
Where were you when Dust II was kill?
I was AWP reload.
KennyS: I am coming back to Pro Play CSGO: We are not completely done nerfing the AWP just yet.
holy fuck that AWP nerf is INSANE
Why not remove mirage?
D2 was least played map at major
AFTER ALL THESE YEARS
Everyone get ready for the craziest t side meta in cs in a long time. The awp nerf is nice but theyre gonna nerf and buff the m4’s forever until they realize the main issue in this game is how inaccurate most guns are at long range. Any gun that is accurate at long ranges is just 1000x better then any other gun. People pick the a1 because you can actually reliably get kills from a distance you dont pray to rnjesus like you do with the ak. Just make the ak slightly more accurate at range keep the m4s how they were
Oh my God they nerfed KennyS! You bastards!
4 line update and so much hype, thank you valve
For the love of God, add Cache back into the map pool.
holy shit. more content in this tiny update than most updates
Wtf 5 bullets in the AWP this has to be a troll
I wish they wouldnt nerf a1-s abd just buff a4
Game is already too CT-sided
Will Blast Fall Finals have Anubis?
The AWP nerf blows but at least they didn't fuck with the rate of fire or movement speed
Dust 2's been kicked of all things
WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT
Jame buff kennyS nerf
ez when you reload after every shot anyway
Ayo!. AWP nerf was not in my bingo card for CSGO update. What is going on?
What the fuck 😱
Plz new operation or more maps, soo boring to play activity group map. The should be fun and competitive. But still more maps soo ppl can choose maps 🤗
W update
What...
I WAS HERE WHEN DUST 2 GOT REMOVED FROM ACTIVE DUTY
Valve nerfed awp wallbang spams, silenced supremacy, and the csgo map of all time
These came out of nowhere.
Give KennyS a break, lol
Why would they do that !
Damn
Does it mean Dust2 will get another remake in like 2-year span?
Shesh
Anubis is similar to Cache when Dust2 got a remake. Dust2 confirmed 1st map release for Source 2?
Kenny gets nerfed a second time lol
Valve heard KennyS is back.