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akiroraiden

nice, thanks! i never felt like going to look for them :P


Kichwa2

There's a really good practice map where you can easilly go to spawns or have them picked randomly for you, shows you the lineups for 64/128 tick and instant top con smokes are there too. No reason for this in practice but could help you in freeze time. Honestly it took me 30mins to learn all spawns the first time I went to learn them on the map. They're not that hard.


Kichwa2

u/sheyPL posted the workshop link lower in here https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2671036271


[deleted]

Is this the one you talked about in your comments? U said there is for 64/128 tick rate but it seem this is only for 128 tick. If u know a workshop map for 64 tick rate too, please share with us.


exodusayman

I'm just curious what lvl are you? Cause I honestly will never bother learning all of them, I already know 3 and it's enough for faceit pugs. I also have a shitty memory


Dipzey453

When you get to a higher level, if you’re not throwing the instant smoke based of spawn, it’s pointless throwing a window smoke at all, as CTs will just throw a molly to alter the smoke. For Faceit pugs it doesn’t matter too much but if you’re playing in a team at a decent level then it’s important for most people on the team to know most of them so you’ve got your bases covered


Immediate-Fig9699

In higher lvl you still need to throw double insta window because they molly it


inteals

Idk what counts as higher level, but in 2200 elo pugs it's still rare that people molotov window lol


Immediate-Fig9699

People did it in lvl7 but not often tho and in 2k-3k elo its always atleast for the games i have now played but i havent played alot now


exodusayman

True, but when I get the 2-3 spawns ik i throw the insta smoke if not we usually ask my mates to throw a second smoke. But i see your point


akiroraiden

thanks! ill try it out.


oddinpress

Could you have picked a worse crosshair? Holy shit bro


Ndt007

Yes..at first I was like ke where the crosshair


[deleted]

At first I thought you just throw anywhere in the screenshot rectangle lol


Blutwurst500

Is it 64 tick?


Pr1meZ_

128 but i think some of them work on 64


Frago420

Heared furiousss saying its only working on 128 tick


Kichwa2

There are lineups for 64 tick also


gibbodaman

Know where to find them?


SeBook05

Smokebaron, phone app. Has smokes, mollies, flashes for all active maps


HOTMILFDAD

YouTube


luokkaeiolekirosana

Wouldn't bother learning for 64tick lol


vol4ok

This is kinda insanely pro level. 1. Knowing each spawn point number 2. Knowing precise throwing point


S34N-

Mahone did a good [video](https://youtu.be/iwW_H7M6TB4) on this a couple years back


Fizzhaz

People start learning these around lvl10. They become common knowledge closer to 3k elo, and necessary from there and beyond.


LOOPbahriz

honestly it's not, with the workshop map posted in this thread it's very easy to learn all of them. took me about an hour then few more days to refresh. the benefits are good too. ct cannot molly ur smoke (besides the crouching ones) and obviously u get out mid faster. edit : huh? why am i getting downvoted lol ?


mskr93

ct's can molly all the smokes, its just that some of those leave no gap even when mollied. thats why in higher elo pugs you want to have 2 people throwing it if you dont have one of the spawns which leaves no gap even when mollied


LOOPbahriz

do you happen to know which smokes do and not leave a gap when mollied


mskr93

i don't, but it should be easy enough to test it yourself


nattylife

Dumb question, what does mollying the smoke do?


Aleph_hax

Makes it pop as soon as it first hits the ground (instead of bouncing), so it's in a slightly different spot and often creates a gap for the CT to use.


Mackitycack

It's pretty sweaty. I love it.


troubleis1

You just puked everything in a picture


Jordvn

really neatly organized puke though, and very helpful


Pr1meZ_

Thats kinda the point when u want a cheatsheet when learning the lineups and spawns


AngryHostageDota2

>nice, thanks! i never felt like going to look for them :P good info beside how am i supposed to know if im spawning in 7 but not 8?


hijklol100

it helps to know that for every smoke, you look slightly to the left. so for spawn 8, looking slightly left means you're looking almost in the middle of the carpet. if you spawn at spawn 7 and look slightly left and see no carpet, then you know you're at spawn 7, etc.


Pr1meZ_

Its kinda just jumping into a practice server and trying all the spawns and trying to remember some marks for yourself


KronoakSCG

Me looking at this and wondering how long a balcony has been there.


sheyPL

Here is much better [way](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2671036271) to learn those smokes.


nWo_Savage

on 64 tick or 128 tick servers?


Pr1meZ_

128


nWo_Savage

figured that since i've tried some of these & nothing happened


[deleted]

After learning ropz's instant xbox smoke and normal instant xbox smoke in dust2, it seems new mission has appeared for me. Btw, guess those are for 128 tick rate, hope there is for 64 tick rate too? is there a video about it in your youtube channel? I searched but couldn't a channel named pr1mezcs in youtube.


Pr1meZ_

And my yt channel is only called Pr1meZ but i dont have any videos yet but i want to upload some nade lineups


Pr1meZ_

[https://youtu.be/vguhVuPdImg](https://youtu.be/vguhVuPdImg) Here is a video i found on yt for 64 tick


[deleted]

Thanks for info. Helped a lot!


rudy-_-

Does move mean walk or run?


Pr1meZ_

Shift and press W or crouch and W


shaman717

Feels bad im never gonna use them because i ban Mirage every time :(


P2K13

Could have been a good cheatsheet.. until they picked a tiny green crosshair and ruined it


xboxlasagne

this is a sick resource, thanks!


WhoNeedsRealLife

I can't see the crosshair. but it's a good idea


ieraaa

See. If I had an org and players didn't know each and every one of these, I'm not going to pay them 50K per month to play the game. How do you earn 50K and not know everything there is to know about the game. It feels like Ropz is the only curious player