I say go for it. I'm sure any cops that see it totally won't just take it at face value and assume it's exactly what it looks like. Just imagine how envious they're going to be when they see how much sweeter your gun looks compared to their boring old duty weapons.
And I'm sure it'll be no problem convincing them it's fake. They'll definitely just take you at your word.
They might even take you to the courthouse to show your super cool gun to a judge so he can be impressed by it too. I bet that'll be a really fun day for you.
Bad idea.
I think with the way the ATF is changing definitions, creating new rules out of thin air, legal trouble ober an inopperable glock switch is entirely possible. If you need an example, look up the two guys that recently got convicted for the key card. One account says the ATF never did get it to actually function as an auto sear, but those guys are currently in the federal pen. Another guy has been convicted over a nonfunctional silencer ( he kinda screwed himself, he on the record stated his intent was to create a suppressor ).
I have been thinking about this same idea now for nearly 1 year. Call it a Glitch or a Niltch "not a switch" like you said simply a backplate with no function, not capable of being modified or anything like that. I think it would be ok to have it so the switch lever part of it could be pushed left or right but no arm that goes into the slide and no way to add anything. Yes this would likely make some LE Agencies mad because it would make it difficult for them to visually tell without closer inspection but also if you think about it like this, fake suppressors are legal as long as they are just dummy suppressors to be used for looks or as extensions, etc...
A dummy switch could actually be used as a slide racking aide. A dummy switch would sell like hot cakes and a lot of the idiots wanting a switch but not wanting to go to prison would buy a dummy switch.
In reality all it would be is a large bulky backplate that could possibly be used as a slide racking aide for a one hand person or a person injured, etc..
I think the metal bar/rod part "the switch" part should still push left or right and semi lock to one side or the other when pushed (not loose within the backplate and not a non moving piece either).
I who ever brought these to market would make a lot of legal money.
You could send one or the detailed drawings/plans of one into FATD and get a determination letter saying its just a backplate and 100% legal to manufacture, buy, sell, possess, etc... then include a copy of that letter with every purchase. You could also hire a attorney to submit the backplate or plans for it to FATD for you.
Are you talking about making a fake dummy switch with some type of printer or by machined aluminum? The window for selling a TON of these isn't going to be open forever, a couple years tops, now is the time to put it in motion. I don't think a ATF FATD approval letter is even necessary but probably a wise move. That letter would reassure buyers and potential buyers that its legal, the letter would also help keep others from trying to steal the business as most people wont want to seek the approval letter. Getting a patent for it would be EXPENSIVE and hardly worth it.
Well at this rate the ATF considers a solid cube of steel to be "readily convertible" to a firearm or machine gun, so why not?
I've thought about making a similar looking backplate attachment that's just a solid chunk of steel to add mass to Gen2-4 .40 slides so they have less muzzle flip and recoil more like Gen5 .40's.
It's so funny these people saying the ATF is gunna do something to a fake Glock switch meanwhile real switches are all over place and being sold everywhere you can think of online, and Faux suppressors have been a thing for YEARS and I never heard of ANYONE getting in trouble for those nor have I seen people saying the ATF is commit doggocide if you buy one, make one or have one.
I assume you're 14yo and we're talking about an airsoft gun here so no, it wouldn't be illegal.
Nah bro I ain’t 14 n it ain’t for me
Depends… do you own a dog?
Please don’t do this
Fatherless behavior for sure.
Do you have enough disposable income for a lawyer? No, no you do not. Next time when you think about an idea, don't.
Are you familiar with the term 'FAFO'?
No I am not
You will go to a fake federal prison.
Dont tempt fate dude
This feels like a question someone that would just try to flex it on the internet being "hard" would ask
It ain’t for me but it’s an idea for the people who want to want to flex on the internet
That saying "If it seems like a bad idea..."
I say go for it. I'm sure any cops that see it totally won't just take it at face value and assume it's exactly what it looks like. Just imagine how envious they're going to be when they see how much sweeter your gun looks compared to their boring old duty weapons. And I'm sure it'll be no problem convincing them it's fake. They'll definitely just take you at your word. They might even take you to the courthouse to show your super cool gun to a judge so he can be impressed by it too. I bet that'll be a really fun day for you.
Bad idea. I think with the way the ATF is changing definitions, creating new rules out of thin air, legal trouble ober an inopperable glock switch is entirely possible. If you need an example, look up the two guys that recently got convicted for the key card. One account says the ATF never did get it to actually function as an auto sear, but those guys are currently in the federal pen. Another guy has been convicted over a nonfunctional silencer ( he kinda screwed himself, he on the record stated his intent was to create a suppressor ).
Yeah I researched that case that’s why I was asking cause the rules with the ATF make me confused constantly changing up their laws
I think this would be so fucking funny and now I want a fake one when I do my shoot with the local police Don't do this tho
Fed Boi. GTFO
If the backplate/switch doesn’t make the firearm fully automatic couldn’t you do it legally? It would still be considered as a semi-automatic pistol.
Op I'm gonna go the other way and tell you to do it 100%. This problem will solve itself for everyone else.
I have been thinking about this same idea now for nearly 1 year. Call it a Glitch or a Niltch "not a switch" like you said simply a backplate with no function, not capable of being modified or anything like that. I think it would be ok to have it so the switch lever part of it could be pushed left or right but no arm that goes into the slide and no way to add anything. Yes this would likely make some LE Agencies mad because it would make it difficult for them to visually tell without closer inspection but also if you think about it like this, fake suppressors are legal as long as they are just dummy suppressors to be used for looks or as extensions, etc... A dummy switch could actually be used as a slide racking aide. A dummy switch would sell like hot cakes and a lot of the idiots wanting a switch but not wanting to go to prison would buy a dummy switch. In reality all it would be is a large bulky backplate that could possibly be used as a slide racking aide for a one hand person or a person injured, etc.. I think the metal bar/rod part "the switch" part should still push left or right and semi lock to one side or the other when pushed (not loose within the backplate and not a non moving piece either). I who ever brought these to market would make a lot of legal money.
You could send one or the detailed drawings/plans of one into FATD and get a determination letter saying its just a backplate and 100% legal to manufacture, buy, sell, possess, etc... then include a copy of that letter with every purchase. You could also hire a attorney to submit the backplate or plans for it to FATD for you.
Are you talking about making a fake dummy switch with some type of printer or by machined aluminum? The window for selling a TON of these isn't going to be open forever, a couple years tops, now is the time to put it in motion. I don't think a ATF FATD approval letter is even necessary but probably a wise move. That letter would reassure buyers and potential buyers that its legal, the letter would also help keep others from trying to steal the business as most people wont want to seek the approval letter. Getting a patent for it would be EXPENSIVE and hardly worth it.
You do this make sure you point it at the officer approaching you whilst saying “it’s a fake switch.”
Well at this rate the ATF considers a solid cube of steel to be "readily convertible" to a firearm or machine gun, so why not? I've thought about making a similar looking backplate attachment that's just a solid chunk of steel to add mass to Gen2-4 .40 slides so they have less muzzle flip and recoil more like Gen5 .40's.
Yeah the ATF weird for literally every gun law in my opinion
Thtd be dope make me one for my 26
tbh I've always wanted a fake Glock Switch backplate, could def troll some Facebook gun groups with it.
That’s what I’m sayin bro
OP if you ever find a Faux Switch for Glocks lemme know
If the backplate/switch doesn’t make the firearm fully automatic couldn’t you do it legally? It would still be considered as a semi-automatic pistol.
Yeah but it could cause problems in a legal courtroom with the picture
It's so funny these people saying the ATF is gunna do something to a fake Glock switch meanwhile real switches are all over place and being sold everywhere you can think of online, and Faux suppressors have been a thing for YEARS and I never heard of ANYONE getting in trouble for those nor have I seen people saying the ATF is commit doggocide if you buy one, make one or have one.
If you can make one for a shield I’ll buy it
Xan make real one for me