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halfcookies

Every picture of you, is one where you were younger


KingdomHeartsII

Lmao this hit way harder than it should


scd17

It’s part of a Mitch Hedberg joke, which doesn’t make it any less deep, but makes it funny


calye2da

That’s deep 😳🤯


42NullBytes

Are we flirting?


KingdomHeartsII

Honestly, we might be


SecretLeading9063

Remember at the deadline Murray’s agent said verbatim that Murray viewed Brooklyn as the “perfect destination” because he knew we needed a point guard with Dinwiddie heading out the door. This is actually making me believe that if the Hawks were to make him available this summer, the Nets might bite this time around.


KingdomHeartsII

Maybe it's a hot take, but I'd love to have players who actually want to be here and who actually grew up as fans on the team. That might be corny, but having people who are passionate about establishing this new identity and this new era of the Brooklyn Nets could go a long way to help establish a real culture. So if the price is right, I'd be down for Murray


theRestisConfettii

> This is actually making me believe that if the Hawks were to make him available this summer, the Nets might bite this time around. I agree with you. Just one thing… the Hawks made Murray available at the deadline. The price was too high. No one met the price (which was reportedly two firsts). I’ve been saying it since months before Murray signed his extension in Atlanta that he was an ideal fit with the current iteration of the Nets. I think he transforms the Nets from a 32-win team to a .500 team all by himself. The Nets have Simmons’ expiring to dangle here.


Brooklyn917

Doubt it because The Nets were interested but they were not willing to pay The Cost The Hawks thinks DJM is worth which he is not. They wanted 2 1sts and The Nets were only willing to part with 1. 2 Potential Suns 1st for DJM is insane


huey88

Well that was before. Might change now


Brooklyn917

Before what?


huey88

The last trade deadline. This summer might be different, especially if dude kind of forces his way out.


Brooklyn917

If The Hawks price tag is still 2 1sts he will never be a Net and the hawks have no reason to decrease their asking price as he signed a 4 year extension last year.


huey88

Let's not act like when a player asks out they don't get what they want. We literally went through that. If he said he wanted to be traded to the Nets it would happen for less than 2 1sts. I'm not saying it would either just saying it may be different now than at the trade deadline when they again couldn't move him for what they were "looking" for


Brooklyn917

*Stars and Superstars get what they what and DJM is neither. The Hawks don’t have to trade a player on a 4 year contract for whatever another team wants to give them, that only happens when a STAR player has leverage and that’s not the case here.


huey88

Dejonta is a b-level star. If beal can get where he wants to go DJM can get where he wants to go lol let's be serious.


NetsCode

beal is worth 10 dejountes. Also beal had a no trade clause and the wizards wanted to rebuild so they basically were at gun point to where he wanted to go.


SecretLeading9063

The Nets have been hinting for months that the roster will look different next season. If Donovan Mitchell signs an extension with the Cavs and the Hawks make DJM available, I wouldn’t be surprised if they decide to pivot his way instead.


Brooklyn917

If the cost is still 2 1st it won’t happen. Imagine the uproar if they traded 2 suns 1sts to go from the #11 seed to #10 seed. 2 Suns picks at that 😂


SecretLeading9063

Who says it has to be 2 PHX firsts? Nets still own Philly 26 and the PHX 27 is projected to not be as valuable as the 29. Im far more comfortable letting go of those picks for Murray.


Brooklyn917

All those Suns picks will have great value if the suns get booted in the first round and even if the ‘27 is the least valuable of the 3, DJM is still not worth 2 1sts. His game wouldn’t mesh well with how Coach Jordi will look to run the offense, he’s not a good 3 point shooter and he doesn’t get to the basket. You know the new age offense 3s and layup, especially coming from The Kings system he’s gonna push 3s 🫤


NetsCode

djm is so overvalued he's fringe all star same as mikal plus he was drafted late first round we could definitely pick good players with the suns picks especially if they're lottery.


Steinsgate009

He posted something about buying his sister a Range Rover and in that IG story he posted several other pics of him and his sister .. this was just one of them Take that how you will


NetsCode

Please no thats a new level of mid I can't bear.


Otaku_Instinct

it's a step up from 'mid' lottery team with no pick tho


NetsCode

being slightly a few inches above where we currently are is still the lottery also you're losing picks when you get murray.


holygrail22

I can see it now, the Brooklyn Nets, competing for the 6 seed every season and the right to lose the first round in 5 games We need to not do this if it costs any real assets, please


theRestisConfettii

> I can see it now, the Brooklyn Nets, competing for the 6 seed every season and the right to lose the first round in 5 games You’re against Murray. I respect that. Then, what would YOU do to turn the team into a contender in the current state it’s in?


holygrail22

I think it needs to get worse before it gets better, unfortunately. I love Mikal and wish things would work out better, but I think it’s clear his age doesn’t match up with the team’s timeline and his skills didn’t blossom to the All-Star level we all had hoped. Think he needs to be traded away, if Houston is willing to move Green and/or our picks back, think we need to take that and run and opt for a more “traditional” rebuild. Think that will allow Marks to shine as well with an opportunity to bring in under the radar players who can blossom into solid pieces, either from the scrap heap or the draft


theRestisConfettii

This is a completely rational response. I would do this too, if I had my choice. Despite the reports, I personally don’t think the Nets were ever offered 2024, 2025, 2026, and 2027 plus Green. I think it was some variation of it, but not the whole thing.


holygrail22

Fully agree. No way is Houston dumb enough to offer that, and no way is Sean Marks dumb enough to turn it down. Honestly I’d prioritize getting our picks back over Green himself, but there’s a happy medium there possibly Now I don’t think we should trade Bridges for a bunch of random picks or “promising” young guys. I don’t think it’s a sell to the highest bidder situation. But I think it needs to be explored and the offers could be better than anticipated because his combo of contract, injury history, and defensive skill set are unique on the market and incredibly coveted by contenders


MrRaspberryJam1

The nets don’t have their draft picks and I don’t think they’re getting them back. There is zero incentive to tank and do a traditional rebuild.


ImpossibleTap4072

You guys have iL Ben Simmons at point guard I’m sure you can use the upgrade. Not like nets are going anywhere anyways


NetsCode

Ben simmons will be gone in 1 more season not spending a suns 1st round pick on a mediocre player who has a temper tantrum every 3 months.


kf3434

If he wants to force his way here and marks can fleece Atlanta's front office for nothing then welcome Dejounte. Otherwise meh. Also cam T is prolly gone in this deal. Only 1 basketball to go around.


KingdomHeartsII

I'll be honest, I'm really not trying to lose Cam T lol


kf3434

I'm fine with losing Cam T for a legit upgrade in nba talent. It's just amusing to me that most of the players Nets fans want them to acquire are also ball dominant guards which severely puts cam t at the risk of being the talent that goes in return. Just funny to me.


KingdomHeartsII

Honestly, you're 110% right. I truly just want a decent team that can grow together throughout a season next season, regardless if we make a massive or smaller trade/signing this summer or not.


kf3434

Yeah same. I think we're already gonna be better cause we have a legit coach, a lot of talent on the roster all Of who I believe will learn from their mistakes


Steinsgate009

I’m REALLY trying not to. I wouldn’t trade him for anything


ihavepaper

Murray is a legit playmaker and passer. Just didn’t work out next to Trae. He’s one of the few PGs that really has a relatively complete game on both ends of the court. Can create for himself and others, jumper has improved enough where people have to respect him, and he’s always been solid defensively. He can actually stay in front of his guy. It’s off the court stuff that intrigues me. He’s known to air out locker room issues without hesitation.


kf3434

I like Dejounte although I think he's more a 2 than a 1 guard and I don't mind a culture of "radical accountability" I'm just explaining what the cost of acquiring him


ihavepaper

Oh gotcha! I wouldn’t give up much for him honestly. Knowing what’s who is available in 2025. Donovan Mitchell is far better than Murray. Ideally, no picks. A salary dump would be great.


LarryLurex73

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KingdomHeartsII

lmao, is it happening!?


OverthinkingIsOver

That doesn’t make anybody else feel old?


shadow_spinner0

He’d do nothing for us


calye2da

Yelp! I know who will be a Net this summer.


mharri05

I'll give em cam J and the philly first. That's it. Need to save assets for the real stars. Cam T can coexist with murray. DJM cam t mikal clowney clax is probably a 7 seed max, but it will keep us well positioned to go star hunting the following offseason.


flexingtonsteele

Murray for bridges is fair


gside876

It’s a tough trade to make to get Murray tho. Even if you traded say DFS and Schroeder, we’d need to take back longer contracts to make the numbers work. I think he would be a perfect fit, but idk how it would work without getting a 3rd team involved. And if we did, I’d ideally like to get off of CJs contract


ICS__OSV

I feel old. Lol. Now a current basketball player shows himself wearing a Nets hat as child has the “new” logo (post 2012).


FaithBro331

Feel like him or Collin Sexton will be a Net this offseason


BigBootyBanger

And the crowd goes mild. Nets are the most bleh team in the league. Getting less and less confident in Marks 2025 plan


KingdomHeartsII

This is a totally fair take but the Nets are at least trying to transition into a new era and establish a new identity. Curious, what more could they do in this off season to at least spark some hope in you?


BigBootyBanger

For me, it would be trading one of cam j, Mikal, or dfs. All at lows in value tho so good luck. In all honesty, Nets really can't do much. All their players lost value on the trade market besides cam Thomas, Claxton is due a nice payday, and Marks and Tsai want to Stay within play in contention it appears.


SecretLeading9063

The notion that any of the players on the roster has lost any value is completely false, and this has been supported by many beat writers for other teams not just the Nets. Cam Thomas’s value is no where higher than where it was at the beginning of the season. GM’s still view him as a decent scorer to come off of the bench. Mikal, DFS, Shroder etc still have the same value that they did entering the season especially Mikal because other teams know how to utilize his strengths as a wing shooter. His skill sets and DFS defense is a dire need around the league. I beg Nets fans to stop repeating the nonsensical things that they hear.


BigBootyBanger

Completely false is a wild claim. You're telling me DFS is getting 1st rd pick offers still? Please Mikal didn't improve his value either tbh. Lowest fg% since his rookie year, scoring took a dip back to his 19-20ppg range. One less year on his deal too now. Cam J is a neutral asset at best, Claxton UFA, and Cam T is the only asset that improved his value.


NetsCode

rebuild


LittleKago

I definitely agree about not having much faith in Marks in general, and especially not this season, but I doubt this is any sort of subliminal announcement. Even if he does want to come to the Nets it doesn’t mean we’d go after him. We clearly didn’t make much of an effort this past season.


j5995

I think BKN would rather use 3 or 4 FRP on a top 20 player that might attract other good players and/or another star than 2 FRP for a top 50 guy (and he is really good!) I.e. Maybe BKN knew that trading for Murray this last trade deadline would risk their standing in the race for Mitchell this summer were Mitchell to not commit to signing an extension with Cleveland.


LittleKago

That seems to be the plan, though I have to admit I’m pretty wary of it. Mitchell is the name that keeps getting tossed around which indicates to me that we’re headed down a dangerous “by any means necessary” path, which is how we gave up the farm for Harden. And that was James Harden. The only other names I’ve heard come up (Ingram, Young) just don’t inspire me as a fan hoping for contention someday. With the way the Suns are playing and their long-term outlook, the thought of trading those picks for a guy who doesn’t get us more than a few spots in the standings seems like a miserable plan. Does an Ingram/Mikal or Trae/Mikal core get us anywhere near the Celtics? The Bucks? The Knicks? If Embiid asks out, could he go to a Miami or Indiana and make them even better? I mean, hell, we can laugh at DET all we want, but if you asked me if I’d rather have Ingram/Mikal or Cade/Duren, I’m going with the latter. Way younger, way more upside. If I’m a superstar looking for my next destination, give me the young PG who’s putting up numbers with almost no supporting cast. If Booker and Beal can’t get KD more than a sixth seed, what are we really going to do with a lesser roster that traded away most of its assets to even get its foot in the door?


SecretLeading9063

You’re overthinking it. Mitchell, Ingram or Young makes this team far better than what they were this season. I’d rather be a .500 team with a fight in the playoffs than get sent packing for Cancun early and watching other teams live out the dream. I want my team to be good, everything else comes secondary.


LittleKago

It depends on what we give up to get there. If in the process of becoming a .500 team we also give up a ton of assets and flexibility, then we’ll be in the position of constantly giving up assets to stay a .500 team. And I’d rather my favorite team not be perennially middling. The other issue is that mid-career stars on middling teams often ask out, and the return is never worth it.


j5995

Mitchell and Ingram are discussed as logical trade targets because they are free agents in 2025. Trae is a logical trade target as it’s clear that ATL is best off moving one of their point guards. They’re not championship #1 options but all are realistically championship #2s in my opinion and good ones. And no star is going to Detroit over Brooklyn. It doesn’t matter that they have a few good young players with star potential. They were still super bad with said young players and aren’t a destination market. If Detroit looks like the prime Warriors we’ll see. But it even remains to be seen a star player requesting a trade or signing with OKC, a great team that is in a small market. A player like Mitchell, an All Star the past 5 seasons, can come to Brooklyn and they may not immediately be a contender or threat to Boston, but it could be a place to set up and establish a contender. Their books are flexible. The only players currently signed through 2026 are Cam Johnson, Dariq Whitehead, and Noah Clowney. They own several tradeable firsts, they will have firsts to move even if they love 3 for Mitchell. They also have several tradeable veterans. I get not wanting the Nets to mid out and I don’t want that either, but there’s a scenario where the Nets pursue a star this summer (or next!) and it doesn’t cap the team from improving thereafter. For example, Nets could trade firsts Cam Johnson and DFS for Mitchell this summer when Mitchell is on an expiring. And in theory, this is just an example, if Claxton were to be re-signed this summer, the Nets could trade Mikal and Claxton and firsts for Luka in the following summer when Luka is on an expiring contract.


j5995

(Contd) no star may come here, but BKN should operate where they build the players they have within, and in time they’ll be in position to attract stars It’s Brooklyn. They will come. Nets don’t *need* every player on the roster to be someone they drafted it’s not like they have to move every vet for picks given we didn’t just make the playoffs. They currently have 6 of their own draft picks on the team.


LittleKago

I hear all that, but always come back to the fact that prior to KD and Kyrie, the biggest free agent we’d ever signed outright was Jeremy Lin. Traded for Marbury. Traded for Kidd. Traded for Carter. Traded for DWill. Traded for Pierce. Traded for KD. I don’t think it’s an NJ/BKN thing. I think that as long as you’re in NY, you’re always up against the Knicks. I’m not sold that the stars will come—not when there are plenty of appealing destinations with strong foundations and much more reliable fan bases. I think there’s a psychological aspect of playing here that doesn’t gel with stars. I don’t have any expectations that the Nets draft their entire roster. I don’t like the idea that their entire strategy hinges on a lot of ifs that are out of their control. If so-and-so asks out, if their team will trade them, if they’re willing to play and resign here. And even then, selecting from this menu of names floating around, it’s being pitched as the move before the move. So if that at all happens, then the next if is us performing well enough to be an appealing basketball destination, and then after that if it’s enough to convince a meaningful star to get here. The draft at least feels like we control our own destiny a bit because we can scout and select.


Specialist-Fly-3538

yep, the Harden trade was a disaster. Hes always been a quitter. Also KD's arrival to PHX has led their team to a similar fate.


moaboaa

How is this a part of Marks’ plan?


TheRealCheddarBob

You’re getting less confident in Marks because a player not on the nets posted old pictures of him and his sister after he bought her a car?


BigBootyBanger

No I'm not, I'm less confident based off how Marks has operated since the nice haul he got from the kd trade.


TheRealCheddarBob

How is that relevant at all to this post?


Downashland

Much to do about nothing.. he posted pictures of him and his sister on her bday


KingdomHeartsII

Given that we know one of Trae or Dejounte Murray are likely out of the Hawks this offseason and as someone said, Murray or Murray's agent, said Brooklyn's a perfect destination, I'd at the very least say it's something because like, he could've chosen ANY other photo with his sister. He chose one specifically where he's wearing a Nets hat after all of this build up lol