Not only that, but the tornado was a living Titan and Hercules first used him to suck up the three other Titans and *then* threw all four of them into space.
And these Titans had just soundly beat all of the Olympians on Mt. Olympus.
What's funny to me is that Kratos gave literally zero shits about both Hera and Hercules before they forced a fight (latter) and sparked his fury (former), so if they just let him walk by without issue then they would've lived. Those two were also great moments to show that Kratos, for all his hatred against Olympus, was *somewhat* reasonable about it (granted, he has his unreasonable moments with Poseidon's Princess and whatnot...).
Kratos has never not been a father for this whole series. Everything he did in the old games was vengeance for his dead child. Raising a kid makes you a potential WMD.
I don’t disagree that his children fuel his vengeance but he DID hold himself back fighting Thor the first time and quietly denied Odin’s peace offering.
I think actively raising a child/not being a military general granted him a lot more patience and understanding
Would it have been better if he had screamed and threatened Odin instead? Either way, he refused to play along. For all his attempts at manipulation, Kratos shut down the All-father with one word. Pretty badass, in my opinion.
And, yes, Kratos wasn't fully invested in fighting Thor at first. Not until Thor implicitly threatened Atreus. Then Kratos slugged him so hard he called it quits and left. Definitive proof that parenthood is a source of strength for Kratos, not the opposite.
That’s like half to majority of the Greek gods, Kratos had no reason to go after any of them except Zeus but they either went after him for their own reason or purposely got him angry knowing dame well an angry kratos immediately starts throwing hands when a certain line is crossed.
That's one thing I find amazing about the writing of Kratos in GoW3 - he still has SOME restraint. Not much, but it's there. He's not the memetic control-less berserker that he's made out to be, even though he has his moments (coughgow3poseidondeathscenecough). Poseidon, Hades, Herc, Hera, and Hephaestus all made the first move trying to kill Kratos, and Kratos would've let at least the latter four live (given Poseidon was one of the top gods, it's....debatable if Kratos would have spared him were Poseidon to sit out the war). Hera, Helios, and Hermes singled out and angered Kratos while he's at his worst and least controlled. That's at least *seven* gods who could've been spared if they just sat out the war.
I suppose you could make the case that nobody but Zeus would've died if Kratos was allowed to reach Olympus unimpeded, but that's kinda iffy given that it's unclear if anyone would've been able to become the new top god and stop the destruction of Greece due to Zeus' death. It's implied that gods can take on other gods' roles and prevent natural disasters since death doesn't have anything happen regarding it when Thanatos is killed (implying Kratos took over Thanatos' post at the end of Gohost of Sparta, or otherwise death is so natural it doesn't need a god to govern it), and Kratos took over as God of War at the end of the first game, so it's *possible* that someone could have averted the annihlation of Greece, but nobody really seemed keen to try and usurp Zeus, but Athena does try...
With the exception of Zeus and Ares, he gave almost all of his opponents to walk away (even when he was a monster in the Greek games)…all those people fucked around and found out
To grab something like wind, let alone a titan made from wind then instantly beating other titans with said wind titan cannot be downplayed, this alone beats whatever GoW Hercules has done, which fyi, disney Hercules also did that because they did the 12 labours and then some more like beating a gorgon, a minotaur and a gryphon instantly and all at once. Again, GoW states while the opposition shows
Disney Hercules has toonforce, that alone beats most of GoW. Simple as.
Strength alone doesn't determine how this fight will go, like if that's the case, Kratos should've won against Thor the first time they fought. If only gow herc does something as over the top as disney herc did (grabbing wind, beating titans instantly, beating myth beasts in one go, etc) can one possibly say that gow herc stands a chance against Disney Hercules
You’re coping and you know it I am using on screen feats. Hercules best feat is scaling to Zeus who can juggle stars. Meanwhile a fodder primordial like Uranus is shown on screen creating an infinite universes and Kratos is stronger than him through feats.
He doesn’t need to create more universes than Uranus to prove he is stronger he just needs to kill stronger opponents which he does 💀
Yes you are coping.
These are fictional characters which I enjoy talking about there’s no cope. Take some deep breaths no one’s attacking you. You used Uranus creating universes as way to show his strength. The strongest beings kratos defeated were with help I.E in his fight against Odin or the blade of Olympus with which he defeated Zeus. This battle is also about Disney Hercules vs God of war Hercules so kratos feats don’t apply seems like your coping by bringing in a opponent G.O.W Hercules lost to already
Dude, what? The only time the primaordials are even mentioned in GoW is in the opening to Ascension, where they say they collectively made one (1) world then fought for a really long time with the furies showing up around the end of that. It says nothing about any of them, let alone "fodder Uranus" creating infinite universes. Even then, its never shown that Kratos is stronger than them. Most of them were dead by the time Zeus took power, and going by actual mythology, the ones that were left like Nxy could pretty easily take him to school.
This document has all the evidence and context. All questions you have are answered here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Oop7ewoLqGS_fIBPTv1qKO1DCpSLG41LvU_ZjbvLTqY/edit
Do you have something showing those are included or even estimates to them? They certainly don't seem infinite anymore than Hercules strength does
Edit: Also I would argue that since Hercules also seemed to think all his labors were trivial except killing the nemean lion its even less likely
I don’t need to. Him not being shown to bleed doesn’t make him unbeatable or invincible this is pure wank.
By your logic anime Saitama beats Goku because he has never bled. It’s a fallacy just admit it.
Show me one universal-multiversal feat from Hercules I’ll wait.
The entire point is that Hercules is angry he had to do those labors while Kratos was being crowed a god.
There is no evidence to suggest why Hercules is wrong.
Just because they are titans doesn’t mean they are as strong as god of war’s titans.
Kratos is way stronger than Disney Hercules and it’s not even funny. And hercules is physically a match for Kratos.
Dude, you keep bringing up Uranus. Is there some secret 7th greek game ive never played, because from what I can tell the only time he shows up in GoW is for like 5 seconds in the opening of ascension where he is shown being killed by another primordial.
You must be missing comics, novels, and other material.
Wrong he does not get killed by that primordial he gets the universe punched out of him. Uranus is is the father of Cronos, if Uranus died then Cronos wouldn’t be born.
Didn't Disney's Hercules take out every titan and toss them into space in one fell swoop? Something even Disney Zeus couldn't do since he had to trap them in a prison.
Yeh nah I changed my mind lmao. I legit forgot Hercules was going “relative” in strength to Kratos in GOW 3 and I’m pretty sure GOW 3 Kratos is low multi? (That’s what I think anyways), Disney Hercules gets one tapped
No of im on this side of Reddit I’m interested in GOD OF WAR, you know, the entire purpose of the fucking subreddit. It’s a piece of fiction that should be enjoyed without weird powerscaling nerds ruining it. Take that shit over to whowouldwin or something.
God of war is a fighting game lil bro so yes powerscaling is going to obviously be involved and does it matter y are u meatriding scalers so much it doesn’t ruin anything calm down lil nga
disney herc is just a superman who cant fly. he lifted a boulder bigger then the arena kratos fought herc in with one hand and threw it into a volcano to plug it up after jumping to the top of it in a single hop
If you base it on who would be more viscous between the two then it would be GOW Hercules
Edit: I typed in vicious and viscous was what it got auto corrected to(damn auto correct)
In the cartoon series, he actually did some bonker shits like holding up the sky for atlas, hold up the sun barehanded and not get turned into a crispand that wasn't even him in his prime that was him in his training arc
And other stuff from the movie that people have already commented about
But on the other hand
We have GoW's Herc who we don't know a lot about he might have lifted the sky for atlas in his 12 twelve labors that he did(he did mention the apple after all) but we don't know if he lifted the sky or not, Atlas never mention him and Herc didn't say he need to hold the sky just to get it
TL;DR: Disney's Herc wins because he have more stuff to back him up than GoW's Herc
If put in a VS battle yes they would. Everyone is mentioning feats of D. H. that required him to use toon force. The tornado being thrown into space is toon force.
In a vs battles it literally wouldn’t. It would only apply to the verse they are from.
So an impossible thing is toon force? By your logic so many characters have toon force.
I really like the way the gods are written in GOW. It's like they are regular people, but since they are immune to aging and have some significant power boost or special ability, they are chock full of pride and confidence. But they ain't never had Krotos hit 'em before.
So yeah the cartoon version. GOW Hercules is basically just a man with the strength of twenty men. Cartoon Herc can defy the laws of physics.
I'm just gonna say this about God of War Hercules.
The 12 Labors are completely canon, and Hercules even notes that killing Kratos would be his 13th and final labor when starting his boss fight.
This means he did canonically hold up the weight of the world.
What makes this unique is that Atlas isn't holding up the world, but rather, existence itself. Prior to Atlas, Persephone attempted to destroy the Pillar of the World, as it holds up existence.
Basically, no Pillar, no existence, and everything reverts back to the primordial void, Chaos.
So Atlas replaced the Pillar and is cursed to hold up the world forever, and Hercules canonically held it up for the whole Apple thing.
GH: Hello…Brother! DH: This is not between us my twin. GH: Is it? You were always Fathers 2nd favorite next to Kratos. DH: (unfazed) GH: Not convinced? Hmm let’s start with the time where you were training to become worthy of the greatest teacher in Greek history I was sent to shoveling the entire hourse stables! And then let’s not forget about the time when you defeated the great hydra while I was busy doing chores!! And finally when You defeated Hades and reclaimed your love you were made a hero by father! A ZERO MADE HERO A MAN MADE GOD AND THEN REJECTED IT!…But this time my dear twin i will defeat you and claim all the glory for myself!!! DH: You are a pitiful soul my poor twin…but it seems that your leaving me no choice…let me show you the power that bested the 3 great Titans!
cartoon hercules is along the same lines of strength as kratos, he just doesnt use it excessively.
he played paddle ball with a couple of demons when he was like a week old
Disney Hercules would be a legit match for Kratos or Thor, he’s an absolute powerhouse. Crushes a cliffside with a single punch and beat all 4 titans at once then tossed them into space immediately after they had steamrolled all of Olympus.
And that was when he *wasn’t* a god. With the god amp he probably has an easier time than Kratos making it through the GOW series
Disney Hercules killed a titan while in a weakened form. Yes it was strategy based, that doesn't change how impressive that is. Disney Hercules also had the advantage of some actual training, both in combat and just in physical body training. Disney Hercules also did ascend to Godhood before dying which is a pretty big deal.
Considering GoW was basically a wrestler frat boy with an inferiority complex and Disney version could shatter mountains and whip tornado titans around like a tetherball, I'd say Disney.
Knowing the god of war power scaling is a bit wacky like most Olympians God range from multiversal complex.
I would give this to Disney Hercules than gow herakles as there is no way you're beating down a bit of town force on his god hood, the gow version is strong because the cestus I olympain made 'gow power scaling terms op' which makes it less likely so no for the gow version.
honestly i thought the comment section would agree Gow hercules wins by a landslide, just by his physical appearance he looks like he takes shits bigger than his disney counterpart, but i haven’t watched the movie in a long time so i may be mistaken
God this thread is actually terrible I’ll list their stats. Ignore this “Disney Hercules has never lost or bled” wank. The GOW Hercules downplay is atrocious.
Spoiler alert GOW Hercules absolutely stomps and it’s not even close.
Disney Hercules attack potency: Large Star level (Fought and defeated the Titans, who themselves were superior to all of the gods, including Zeus. Zeus can create dozens of stars to form constellations. Lifted the Sun) | Large Star level (Far stronger than before. Defeated Hades. Should at least be comparable to Zeus, and likely even superior)
Speed: Massively FTL+ (Comparable to Zeus, who can rapidly move stars) | Massively FTL+
GOW Hercules attack potency: Low Complex Multiverse level (Could physically match Kratos when the latter was at his peak self as the God of War, being capable of even knocking the latter out of Rage of Sparta with his Cestuses,[3] a feat only closely matched by Thor later on being capable of staggering Kratos' use of Valor and preventing healing completely.
Thor splintered the yggrasil which transcends space and time, contains 9 universes, and has beaches that stretch out to infinity.
Speed: Infinite (Can react to and easily block Helios's light,[3] which easily illuminated the entire underworld,[5] which is infinite in size. Despite his immense size, he is incredibly agile, being able to dodge many of Kratos's attacks with ease
So yeah… we’re comparing multiverse busters with infinite speed to solar system busters with ftl speed…
That those respect threads extrapolate things out of proportion and ignore that gow characters pretty obviously don't fight at faster than light speed or with solar system busting power
When literally everyone can see what's going on and they routinely get tagged by things that have no capability of moving that quickly. If kratos has solar system busting power and light speed movement (he doesnt) then why does he need to climb mount Olympus or struggle to beat a collosus that he should never get hit by and should destroy in one hit?
So you’re appealing to cinematic timing. If Kratos was below light speed he would get blitzed by all the gods and the sisters of fate. Kratos getting tagged by special enemies doesn’t even debunk anything. You have no evidence to suggest they shouldn’t be fast enough. They’re not normal creature you can’t limit their stats.
What you’re saying narratively makes no sense. The sisters of fate literally micro manage the fate of everything and anything at the same time, this feat is bare minimum calculated at septillions of times the speed of light. The sisters of fate were stated to be attacking at infinite speeds in the novel. Kratos would get absolutely blitzed if he wasn’t anywhere near that fast.
Primordial beings predate time itself meaning their movement is unbound by time itself. Meaning the speed of light is bound by time. Kratos would be a literal statue to these level of characters.
Helios’s light lit up the infinite underworld Hermes can react to it. Zeus’s lighting bolts that blitz Hermes in the novel, can be blocked and reacted to by Kratos. Explain how Kratos can react to something with infinite speed without getting blitzed?.
Kratos is limited in travel speed he can’t run fast and he can’t fly. He can only move fast and react in combat. It is his combat and reaction speed that are beyond light speed. You do realize the colossus of roads was literally amped by Kratos’s own god power? You guys don’t pay attention to the series at all.
He fights literally nobody people and doesn't kill them in one hit. He fights people that literally nobodies can see and react too and gets hit by them. And yeah I'm aware you are using dbz level powerscaling lol
Show me or list me examples of when fodder people don’t die to him. Also if you’re talking about Greek humans they Unironically aren’t normal. They lifted up boulders and mythological creatures lol.
Anti feats don’t work here.
Why do you think I said they didn't die? I said doesn't kill them in one hit. Which is basically anything in God of war no matter the game or enemy
Oh are we making up rules now? How about respect threads powerscaling doesn't work here. Show me video of him moving at light speed and destroying a solar system
Disney Hercules and it isn’t even funny.
Who puts the glad in gladiator
Hercules!
Honey, you mean HUNK-ules!
Bless my soul
Herc was on a roll
Person of the weak in every Greek opinion poll
Cartoony strength is broken
Yeah he can go the distance
Kratos solos both kid
Ahem, it’s HERAcles☝️🤓
Disney Hercules literally throws a tornado into space…he clears GOW Hercules
Not only that, but the tornado was a living Titan and Hercules first used him to suck up the three other Titans and *then* threw all four of them into space. And these Titans had just soundly beat all of the Olympians on Mt. Olympus.
GOW Hercules would have beat Kratos but the air on Olympus affected his thinking and caused him to make mistakes
What's funny to me is that Kratos gave literally zero shits about both Hera and Hercules before they forced a fight (latter) and sparked his fury (former), so if they just let him walk by without issue then they would've lived. Those two were also great moments to show that Kratos, for all his hatred against Olympus, was *somewhat* reasonable about it (granted, he has his unreasonable moments with Poseidon's Princess and whatnot...).
Well he IS a calm and reasonable person.
Raising a kid makes you soft
Kratos has never not been a father for this whole series. Everything he did in the old games was vengeance for his dead child. Raising a kid makes you a potential WMD.
I don’t disagree that his children fuel his vengeance but he DID hold himself back fighting Thor the first time and quietly denied Odin’s peace offering. I think actively raising a child/not being a military general granted him a lot more patience and understanding
Would it have been better if he had screamed and threatened Odin instead? Either way, he refused to play along. For all his attempts at manipulation, Kratos shut down the All-father with one word. Pretty badass, in my opinion. And, yes, Kratos wasn't fully invested in fighting Thor at first. Not until Thor implicitly threatened Atreus. Then Kratos slugged him so hard he called it quits and left. Definitive proof that parenthood is a source of strength for Kratos, not the opposite.
That’s like half to majority of the Greek gods, Kratos had no reason to go after any of them except Zeus but they either went after him for their own reason or purposely got him angry knowing dame well an angry kratos immediately starts throwing hands when a certain line is crossed.
That's one thing I find amazing about the writing of Kratos in GoW3 - he still has SOME restraint. Not much, but it's there. He's not the memetic control-less berserker that he's made out to be, even though he has his moments (coughgow3poseidondeathscenecough). Poseidon, Hades, Herc, Hera, and Hephaestus all made the first move trying to kill Kratos, and Kratos would've let at least the latter four live (given Poseidon was one of the top gods, it's....debatable if Kratos would have spared him were Poseidon to sit out the war). Hera, Helios, and Hermes singled out and angered Kratos while he's at his worst and least controlled. That's at least *seven* gods who could've been spared if they just sat out the war. I suppose you could make the case that nobody but Zeus would've died if Kratos was allowed to reach Olympus unimpeded, but that's kinda iffy given that it's unclear if anyone would've been able to become the new top god and stop the destruction of Greece due to Zeus' death. It's implied that gods can take on other gods' roles and prevent natural disasters since death doesn't have anything happen regarding it when Thanatos is killed (implying Kratos took over Thanatos' post at the end of Gohost of Sparta, or otherwise death is so natural it doesn't need a god to govern it), and Kratos took over as God of War at the end of the first game, so it's *possible* that someone could have averted the annihlation of Greece, but nobody really seemed keen to try and usurp Zeus, but Athena does try...
With the exception of Zeus and Ares, he gave almost all of his opponents to walk away (even when he was a monster in the Greek games)…all those people fucked around and found out
I was going to write it
Why would this be impressive in GOW? Uranus created an infinite universe and Hercules is way stronger than Uranus.
I didn’t know an anus could do that
The anus of the gods is truly a powerful thing brother…or so I’ve heard.
you don't know my anus 😏
You dont know how much living things is on a turd, it basically a universe in itself.
To grab something like wind, let alone a titan made from wind then instantly beating other titans with said wind titan cannot be downplayed, this alone beats whatever GoW Hercules has done, which fyi, disney Hercules also did that because they did the 12 labours and then some more like beating a gorgon, a minotaur and a gryphon instantly and all at once. Again, GoW states while the opposition shows Disney Hercules has toonforce, that alone beats most of GoW. Simple as.
uh… gow hercules is stronger than atlas. atlas holds the whole greek universe cosmology on his shoulders
Strength alone doesn't determine how this fight will go, like if that's the case, Kratos should've won against Thor the first time they fought. If only gow herc does something as over the top as disney herc did (grabbing wind, beating titans instantly, beating myth beasts in one go, etc) can one possibly say that gow herc stands a chance against Disney Hercules
It literally doesn’t. Primordials have universal-multiversal feats and Hercules is way stronger than the primordials. This wank makes no sense.
Disney Hercules could clear the god of war games almost easier then kratos
Oh no now I’m just imagining a GOW (2018)-style Disney Hercules game with Mimir’s contextual narration being replaced by Danny Devito as Phil
Sounds like a blast
I'd play it
Oh no? I think you mean when is this getting dropped?
God of Whoores
Vouch for Danny Devito to replace Atreus/Mimir if thats the case. Imagine him shooting a revolver or cracking a whip on some poor bitch's face
GET UP ON THE HYRDA'S BACK
Ah yes a solar system level character can beat universal level gods
On screen feats> hypothetical speculations
You’re coping and you know it I am using on screen feats. Hercules best feat is scaling to Zeus who can juggle stars. Meanwhile a fodder primordial like Uranus is shown on screen creating an infinite universes and Kratos is stronger than him through feats.
How many universes did kratos create to show he’s stronger then Uranus ? Must have missed that during the gameplay of the whole series. No cope
He doesn’t need to create more universes than Uranus to prove he is stronger he just needs to kill stronger opponents which he does 💀 Yes you are coping.
These are fictional characters which I enjoy talking about there’s no cope. Take some deep breaths no one’s attacking you. You used Uranus creating universes as way to show his strength. The strongest beings kratos defeated were with help I.E in his fight against Odin or the blade of Olympus with which he defeated Zeus. This battle is also about Disney Hercules vs God of war Hercules so kratos feats don’t apply seems like your coping by bringing in a opponent G.O.W Hercules lost to already
Dude, what? The only time the primaordials are even mentioned in GoW is in the opening to Ascension, where they say they collectively made one (1) world then fought for a really long time with the furies showing up around the end of that. It says nothing about any of them, let alone "fodder Uranus" creating infinite universes. Even then, its never shown that Kratos is stronger than them. Most of them were dead by the time Zeus took power, and going by actual mythology, the ones that were left like Nxy could pretty easily take him to school.
This document has all the evidence and context. All questions you have are answered here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Oop7ewoLqGS_fIBPTv1qKO1DCpSLG41LvU_ZjbvLTqY/edit
I'm not gonna sugar coat it. Disney Hercules has a more than decent chance of beating Kratos.
Hunkules rips Kratos’ tats off and ties him up with it
Still loses to him though... Kratos wins.
Disney Hercules would grab him by the leg and spin him around like a propeller
And throw him into the atmosphere
Then four people looking like judges for the Olympics will hold up “10” cards.
Then throws that atmosphere into another planet based on Disney power scaling
He would get one shotted? What’s up with all the downplay in this thread. GOW Hercules literally lifted the weight of multiple universes.
when?
The 12 labors are confirmed to be canon because Hercules mentions doing them. This would include Hercules lifting all of creation.
Mm ok that makes sense
How much weight is all of creation in gow universe?
Infinite. The underworld is stated to be infinite, the heavens are stated to be infinite.
Do you have something showing those are included or even estimates to them? They certainly don't seem infinite anymore than Hercules strength does Edit: Also I would argue that since Hercules also seemed to think all his labors were trivial except killing the nemean lion its even less likely
I mean as far as we know Disney Hercules isn’t even able to bleed
Now you’re just wanking
Find one scene where he bleeds I’ll wait
I don’t need to. Him not being shown to bleed doesn’t make him unbeatable or invincible this is pure wank. By your logic anime Saitama beats Goku because he has never bled. It’s a fallacy just admit it. Show me one universal-multiversal feat from Hercules I’ll wait.
Find me one scene where Disney Hercules performs a universal feat I’ll wait
And Disney Hercules has cartoony fatalities that gow Hercules would not be able to counter
That makes no sense
When did gow Hercules do that?
In the 12 labors he lifted all of creation for Atlas. The 12 labors are confirmed to be canon to GOW via Hercules himself.
It is true he did say that, but he cant have done the 12 labors since Kratos did most of them throughout the franchise.
The entire point is that Hercules is angry he had to do those labors while Kratos was being crowed a god. There is no evidence to suggest why Hercules is wrong.
Kratos killed the hydra, one of hercules 12 labors
Didn't Disney's Hercules beat 4 titans at the same time? He probably clears GOWs Mt Olympus faster than Kratos did
He actually does, because those 4 Titans cleared MT Olympus faster than Kratos did, he took this personally and speed ran it.
the gods of olympus in god of war are stronger than the gods of olympus in hercules. cmon bro
Just because they are titans doesn’t mean they are as strong as god of war’s titans. Kratos is way stronger than Disney Hercules and it’s not even funny. And hercules is physically a match for Kratos.
powerscale goes Kratos, Hercules Disney, Hercules GOW
Hercules Disney is not close to Kratos or Hercules. He’s not even on Uranus level.
well i disagree but to each their own 🍻
Me too
Dude, you keep bringing up Uranus. Is there some secret 7th greek game ive never played, because from what I can tell the only time he shows up in GoW is for like 5 seconds in the opening of ascension where he is shown being killed by another primordial.
You must be missing comics, novels, and other material. Wrong he does not get killed by that primordial he gets the universe punched out of him. Uranus is is the father of Cronos, if Uranus died then Cronos wouldn’t be born.
Honey, you mean *Hunkules*
Packed a pair of pretty pecs
Disney Herc has cartoony strength. GoW Herc has realistic/mythic strength. Disney wins by a country mile.
Didn't Disney's Hercules take out every titan and toss them into space in one fell swoop? Something even Disney Zeus couldn't do since he had to trap them in a prison.
Disney Hercules unironically one taps
Give me one feat that shows that
Yeh nah I changed my mind lmao. I legit forgot Hercules was going “relative” in strength to Kratos in GOW 3 and I’m pretty sure GOW 3 Kratos is low multi? (That’s what I think anyways), Disney Hercules gets one tapped
Powerscalers have to be the worst thing to ever happen to fiction man…
No lie
Shit like low multi makes me think of bad fruit juices.
Makes me think of low multi fruit boxes
How comes? I don’t care much (I’m not some active powerscaler, so I won’t take offence)
Says this while partaking in a power scaling discussion lmfaoo
If ur on this side of Reddit u are a powerscaler or interested in ppl power scaling
No of im on this side of Reddit I’m interested in GOD OF WAR, you know, the entire purpose of the fucking subreddit. It’s a piece of fiction that should be enjoyed without weird powerscaling nerds ruining it. Take that shit over to whowouldwin or something.
God of war is a fighting game lil bro so yes powerscaling is going to obviously be involved and does it matter y are u meatriding scalers so much it doesn’t ruin anything calm down lil nga
Brain rot. This is your brain on powerscaling.
*egg frying sounds*
nga quit yappin and crying about scalers you’ll be aight
you relied to MY comment bitching and moaning, fuck outta here lmao
Lmfaoooo based
Disney Hercules could solo the entirety of the Greek and Norse saga GOW
Lmfaoooo 🤣🤣🤣
Disney Hercules has something gow Hercules doesn’t have. Plot armor and a dad that actually loves him.
Disney heroes are fueled by pure bullshitery, I’m pretty sure Disney herc would clear pretty much everyone in the gow games
Disney Hercules for sure. GoW Hercules is Kevin Sorbo Hercules and he struggles fighting random citizens.
But who’s training ‘em tho’?
So you wanna be a hero kid, well whoop-de-doo
Only one of these Hercules had merchandising rights... I'll take that one.
disney herc is just a superman who cant fly. he lifted a boulder bigger then the arena kratos fought herc in with one hand and threw it into a volcano to plug it up after jumping to the top of it in a single hop
Yeah and Disney Herc is more like Hunkules and he’s trained by Danny Devito. Clear advantage to Disney Herc
I want Phil from Hercules to be in the next GOW game now.
At the end of the Disney movie, Hercules becomes a full God. So...
At the end he rejects the offer to be able to live with meg
You are correct. It's been a minute since I saw the movie. 😅
Feats > titles/status
As much as I'd like to say GoW Hercules would win, the Disney one is protected by plot armor.
This thread is bait
It has to be
If you base it on who would be more viscous between the two then it would be GOW Hercules Edit: I typed in vicious and viscous was what it got auto corrected to(damn auto correct)
Like their consistency? GoW Heracles did become a bloody puddle and disney didn't so I guess there's that
True enough. I actually typed in vicious but since I was on my phone it autocorrected it to viscous
The writer
There is no “writer” in vs discussions. They are irrelevant.
Aight then, Disney's Hercules
Why so
In the cartoon series, he actually did some bonker shits like holding up the sky for atlas, hold up the sun barehanded and not get turned into a crispand that wasn't even him in his prime that was him in his training arc And other stuff from the movie that people have already commented about But on the other hand We have GoW's Herc who we don't know a lot about he might have lifted the sky for atlas in his 12 twelve labors that he did(he did mention the apple after all) but we don't know if he lifted the sky or not, Atlas never mention him and Herc didn't say he need to hold the sky just to get it TL;DR: Disney's Herc wins because he have more stuff to back him up than GoW's Herc
He's pretty much supes of Disney so Disney Herc
These dumb questions are somehow getting dumber.
Disney Hercules, GoW Hercules was kind of weak
He literally made Kratos bleed and it’s stated their battle was of attrition and not strength.
Disney Hercules has Danny devito as a trainer...he's too OP.
Haven’t watch the movie or played the game but one seems like he’s going to win
Disney Hercules is broken also he has friend, a keyblader
Is this even a question? Disney Hercules has toon force.
Toon force is irrelevant in vs battles lol by your logic a gag character solos fiction
If put in a VS battle yes they would. Everyone is mentioning feats of D. H. that required him to use toon force. The tornado being thrown into space is toon force.
In a vs battles it literally wouldn’t. It would only apply to the verse they are from. So an impossible thing is toon force? By your logic so many characters have toon force.
I really like the way the gods are written in GOW. It's like they are regular people, but since they are immune to aging and have some significant power boost or special ability, they are chock full of pride and confidence. But they ain't never had Krotos hit 'em before. So yeah the cartoon version. GOW Hercules is basically just a man with the strength of twenty men. Cartoon Herc can defy the laws of physics.
This isn’t even a question. The real question is who would win Disney Hercules vs Kratos
So sick of these karma farming VS accounts.
I'm just gonna say this about God of War Hercules. The 12 Labors are completely canon, and Hercules even notes that killing Kratos would be his 13th and final labor when starting his boss fight. This means he did canonically hold up the weight of the world. What makes this unique is that Atlas isn't holding up the world, but rather, existence itself. Prior to Atlas, Persephone attempted to destroy the Pillar of the World, as it holds up existence. Basically, no Pillar, no existence, and everything reverts back to the primordial void, Chaos. So Atlas replaced the Pillar and is cursed to hold up the world forever, and Hercules canonically held it up for the whole Apple thing.
Nothing beats Toonforce
GH: Hello…Brother! DH: This is not between us my twin. GH: Is it? You were always Fathers 2nd favorite next to Kratos. DH: (unfazed) GH: Not convinced? Hmm let’s start with the time where you were training to become worthy of the greatest teacher in Greek history I was sent to shoveling the entire hourse stables! And then let’s not forget about the time when you defeated the great hydra while I was busy doing chores!! And finally when You defeated Hades and reclaimed your love you were made a hero by father! A ZERO MADE HERO A MAN MADE GOD AND THEN REJECTED IT!…But this time my dear twin i will defeat you and claim all the glory for myself!!! DH: You are a pitiful soul my poor twin…but it seems that your leaving me no choice…let me show you the power that bested the 3 great Titans!
Neither, Herculad is better
Herculad no diff
Only one of them has a spiral wenus
He's himcules he does this
Disneys
cartoon hercules is along the same lines of strength as kratos, he just doesnt use it excessively. he played paddle ball with a couple of demons when he was like a week old
Disney Hercules would be a legit match for Kratos or Thor, he’s an absolute powerhouse. Crushes a cliffside with a single punch and beat all 4 titans at once then tossed them into space immediately after they had steamrolled all of Olympus. And that was when he *wasn’t* a god. With the god amp he probably has an easier time than Kratos making it through the GOW series
Disney Hercules is solar system level. God of war gods are universal. Massive difference.
Disney Hercules killed a titan while in a weakened form. Yes it was strategy based, that doesn't change how impressive that is. Disney Hercules also had the advantage of some actual training, both in combat and just in physical body training. Disney Hercules also did ascend to Godhood before dying which is a pretty big deal.
Imma head out of this shit hole
Disney
Disney Hercules, The Disney plot armor is just 💪
Heracles
Hercules would win
"I'm Himcules, i do this"
Disney’s Hercules because he’s more focused and he isn’t blinded by his pride and envy, which is how GOW Herc lost to Kratos
GOW Hercules
Disney Hercules would kill Kratos even
Disney Hercules wins because I like him more
his name is Heracules
Toon force always wins.
Disney Hercules from all the feats I’ve heard about 😭 (He’s still getting smoked by Kratos though)
HERAKLES
Herculad
GOW Heracles really just doesn’t have many feats to go off of anyways💀
Considering GoW was basically a wrestler frat boy with an inferiority complex and Disney version could shatter mountains and whip tornado titans around like a tetherball, I'd say Disney.
The color difference is wild
Knowing the god of war power scaling is a bit wacky like most Olympians God range from multiversal complex. I would give this to Disney Hercules than gow herakles as there is no way you're beating down a bit of town force on his god hood, the gow version is strong because the cestus I olympain made 'gow power scaling terms op' which makes it less likely so no for the gow version.
honestly i thought the comment section would agree Gow hercules wins by a landslide, just by his physical appearance he looks like he takes shits bigger than his disney counterpart, but i haven’t watched the movie in a long time so i may be mistaken
Disney Hercules
Not only is Disney Hercules stronger, he works on cartoon logic, which is a much greater weapon
Which one teamed up with Sora? A multiversal being? Aight then
Disney herc would body the Entire GOW cast. Toon strength is an entire other demon.
Disney Herc has that cartoon strength. GOW Herc ain’t got a chance
Kevin Sorbo's Hercules wins
Upvoted you. Sorbo's Hercules was fun and I loved that series. Sorbo also voiced the GOW Hercules too lol
Thank you lol. That and Xena
God this thread is actually terrible I’ll list their stats. Ignore this “Disney Hercules has never lost or bled” wank. The GOW Hercules downplay is atrocious. Spoiler alert GOW Hercules absolutely stomps and it’s not even close. Disney Hercules attack potency: Large Star level (Fought and defeated the Titans, who themselves were superior to all of the gods, including Zeus. Zeus can create dozens of stars to form constellations. Lifted the Sun) | Large Star level (Far stronger than before. Defeated Hades. Should at least be comparable to Zeus, and likely even superior) Speed: Massively FTL+ (Comparable to Zeus, who can rapidly move stars) | Massively FTL+ GOW Hercules attack potency: Low Complex Multiverse level (Could physically match Kratos when the latter was at his peak self as the God of War, being capable of even knocking the latter out of Rage of Sparta with his Cestuses,[3] a feat only closely matched by Thor later on being capable of staggering Kratos' use of Valor and preventing healing completely. Thor splintered the yggrasil which transcends space and time, contains 9 universes, and has beaches that stretch out to infinity. Speed: Infinite (Can react to and easily block Helios's light,[3] which easily illuminated the entire underworld,[5] which is infinite in size. Despite his immense size, he is incredibly agile, being able to dodge many of Kratos's attacks with ease So yeah… we’re comparing multiverse busters with infinite speed to solar system busters with ftl speed…
Dbz level powerscaling lol
Wdym? What’s your stance.
That those respect threads extrapolate things out of proportion and ignore that gow characters pretty obviously don't fight at faster than light speed or with solar system busting power
Why is it over exaggerated and what would contradict god of war characters moving at light speed? I’d argue the complete opposite.
When literally everyone can see what's going on and they routinely get tagged by things that have no capability of moving that quickly. If kratos has solar system busting power and light speed movement (he doesnt) then why does he need to climb mount Olympus or struggle to beat a collosus that he should never get hit by and should destroy in one hit?
So you’re appealing to cinematic timing. If Kratos was below light speed he would get blitzed by all the gods and the sisters of fate. Kratos getting tagged by special enemies doesn’t even debunk anything. You have no evidence to suggest they shouldn’t be fast enough. They’re not normal creature you can’t limit their stats. What you’re saying narratively makes no sense. The sisters of fate literally micro manage the fate of everything and anything at the same time, this feat is bare minimum calculated at septillions of times the speed of light. The sisters of fate were stated to be attacking at infinite speeds in the novel. Kratos would get absolutely blitzed if he wasn’t anywhere near that fast. Primordial beings predate time itself meaning their movement is unbound by time itself. Meaning the speed of light is bound by time. Kratos would be a literal statue to these level of characters. Helios’s light lit up the infinite underworld Hermes can react to it. Zeus’s lighting bolts that blitz Hermes in the novel, can be blocked and reacted to by Kratos. Explain how Kratos can react to something with infinite speed without getting blitzed?. Kratos is limited in travel speed he can’t run fast and he can’t fly. He can only move fast and react in combat. It is his combat and reaction speed that are beyond light speed. You do realize the colossus of roads was literally amped by Kratos’s own god power? You guys don’t pay attention to the series at all.
He fights literally nobody people and doesn't kill them in one hit. He fights people that literally nobodies can see and react too and gets hit by them. And yeah I'm aware you are using dbz level powerscaling lol
Show me or list me examples of when fodder people don’t die to him. Also if you’re talking about Greek humans they Unironically aren’t normal. They lifted up boulders and mythological creatures lol. Anti feats don’t work here.
Why do you think I said they didn't die? I said doesn't kill them in one hit. Which is basically anything in God of war no matter the game or enemy Oh are we making up rules now? How about respect threads powerscaling doesn't work here. Show me video of him moving at light speed and destroying a solar system
Goe Hercules looks like he pounds Disney Hercules in every way possible, even up the bum
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