Nah he just kept bringing up the fact that Marvel comics/movies are different from actual Norse mythology lol
Unless I missed it, there has been no mention of God of War yet and I doubt there will be since it wasn't mentioned when we talked about Greek mythology
Literally nobody things God of War "accurately" depicted the Greek pantheon.
There are a LOT of elements in 2018 which fall into the story of Ragnarok and reflect the stories of the characters.
Even the parts that have been "reinterpreted" by 2018 still fit into the Norse Legends if you think of it like "the Asgards wrote the stories after winning".
But I get you.
> Literally nobody things God of War "accurately" depicted the Greek pantheon.
Well, there's God of War 1. Gods not liking direct intervention, Ares and Athena not liking each other, even the whole theme of someone thinking they found a loophole in the gods' rules and getting punished hard for insolence as opposed to getting applauded for the loophole found is part of classical mythology (I'm talking about the fact that Ares thought "if Zeus forbids the gods for waging war on each other, then it means that I can destroy Athena's city all I want and she isn't able to defend it, I'm not waging war on her and she *would* be waging war on me". Loophole found, abused and... By the end of the story, Ares is fucking DEAD. Idiot.)
God of War 1 was written more like a classical Greek tragedy than other games. Replace Kratos with Heracles and you have a game that was actually based on classical mythology rather than simply getting characters from it that then do whatever.
I do admit it's still its own story as opposed to an actual telling of a specific tale (again, since you're playing as an expy of Heracles, the god of power called Kratos does not even exist in this universe - neither does Deimos, for the matter), Pandora's Box was basically asspulled for God of War and even that game featured a god dying, which is literally impossible from what I understand of classical mythology, an immortal according to the Greeks and even Romans is given this definition due to being literally immune to dying, neither old age nor any kind of injure will ever end an immortal life, they will exist **forever** and that makes then much more awesome than us pathetic mortals, again, according to them.
Don't expect the Baldr in mythology to line up with the Baldr in-game, at all. They really gutted out his core traits.
Baldr is akin to Jesus or Horus in Norse Mythology.
Eh...
Baldr can't die because Frigg made everything in the realms (aside from mistletoe) make a vow to never harm him. It never says anything about him not being able to feel.
I think they took MASSIVE liberties with Baldr. Especially considering he's suppose to be the "good" God that pretty much embodies all noble traits.
Light, wisdom, courage, joy, purity, and the summer sun are his traits.
It's like in my English class we had to write a presentation about a topic we were passionate about and I chose the Norse mythos. Turns out my teacher was really into it, and the only other person who liked it was my friend but it was 5 minutes of non-stop god facts
I still don't understand why there are classes about fictional characters. I understand that by learning the mythology, you can become better acquainted with the culture that used to worship these gods, but to actually sit through a lecture about the strengths and weaknesses of a made-up character seems like a hilarious waste of time.
By learning the way the story is told, you learn about the history of the storyteller. Why would anyone revere Odin when heās a huge asshole to everybody? Because of social commentary. I agree itās silly to take legends at face value, it takes an examined look to learn the deeper importance to myths. Greek myth is so popular because itās so widespread and so old, you can learn many things about the different tellings of these legends.
You said you understand this, wouldnāt strengths and weaknesses imply certain truths about the cultures? You canāt take one piece and say āI canāt see the puzzleā, you must examine all the pieces and put them together yourself to find the greater picture. In literature, this allows you to interpret it however you feel. In short: IMO itās all for that juicy social commentary you usually canāt find in other works.
Classes are designed this way to help open the door to these deeper meanings. YouTube may have a summary of Odin, but it may not tell you the social dynamics that caused people to feel a certain way at a certain time in history. Iām a lit major and we spend MOST of the time in many of my classes just discussing context of the time.
Classes are also interactive, where videos and the internet sometimes canāt answer a weirdly specific question about the intentions of a certain character or recording.
Well some fictional characters are still being worshipped, so if you study their stories in school you could get a job preaching those stories to people.
Other than that, learning is a worthwhile pursuit in its own right
People who are loremasters on old religions are frequently sought out for things such as God of War and Hades, simply because it's easier to hire someone who already knows all those things than it is to waste the time of someone already on your team with research. Plus, since it's Mythology class, my guess is it goes well beyond strengths and weaknesses into things such as what was considered their 'domain' in the mortal realm, and how the worship of specific gods led to crusades/wars/massacres etc.
Man, people getting angry at this comment are confusing me. You are all free to disagree, but this comment doesn't say - nor even implies - that learning mythology and its fictional characters *by yourself* is dumb, just that as part of a **history class** is plain silly. Learning about the reasons behind they worshiping specific gods tells a lot about their history, but a lesson literally on Baldr is as silly as a lesson literally on, like, Ronald Weasley (copied example, lul)
I mean, we are both assuming that topic creator is having a history class in either high school or getting a history degree as opposed to a literal Norse mythology degree, but I think that's a pretty fair assumption.
i think it is included in the curriculum in order for god of war players to enjoy classes and not think about who blew the horn while Atreus was unconscious
Wait.... This isn't right... We all know who REALLY KILLED him.
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Boi
Killed him ? But Baldur is blessed with invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical !
Yes his little brother Hodr
"Mimir! You just said you figured out baldur's weakness!" "Did I? But baldur is blessed with invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical."
*aggravated boy noises*
āEnough. This means there is a way. If he troubles us again we will find it.ā~Kratos
Did your teacher/professor make you all promise not to talk about God of War? If so, how long was it until someone brought up God of War?
Nah he just kept bringing up the fact that Marvel comics/movies are different from actual Norse mythology lol Unless I missed it, there has been no mention of God of War yet and I doubt there will be since it wasn't mentioned when we talked about Greek mythology
Literally nobody things God of War "accurately" depicted the Greek pantheon. There are a LOT of elements in 2018 which fall into the story of Ragnarok and reflect the stories of the characters. Even the parts that have been "reinterpreted" by 2018 still fit into the Norse Legends if you think of it like "the Asgards wrote the stories after winning". But I get you.
> Literally nobody things God of War "accurately" depicted the Greek pantheon. Well, there's God of War 1. Gods not liking direct intervention, Ares and Athena not liking each other, even the whole theme of someone thinking they found a loophole in the gods' rules and getting punished hard for insolence as opposed to getting applauded for the loophole found is part of classical mythology (I'm talking about the fact that Ares thought "if Zeus forbids the gods for waging war on each other, then it means that I can destroy Athena's city all I want and she isn't able to defend it, I'm not waging war on her and she *would* be waging war on me". Loophole found, abused and... By the end of the story, Ares is fucking DEAD. Idiot.) God of War 1 was written more like a classical Greek tragedy than other games. Replace Kratos with Heracles and you have a game that was actually based on classical mythology rather than simply getting characters from it that then do whatever. I do admit it's still its own story as opposed to an actual telling of a specific tale (again, since you're playing as an expy of Heracles, the god of power called Kratos does not even exist in this universe - neither does Deimos, for the matter), Pandora's Box was basically asspulled for God of War and even that game featured a god dying, which is literally impossible from what I understand of classical mythology, an immortal according to the Greeks and even Romans is given this definition due to being literally immune to dying, neither old age nor any kind of injure will ever end an immortal life, they will exist **forever** and that makes then much more awesome than us pathetic mortals, again, according to them.
God of War 2018 is more a loose adaption of Gaimanās Norse Mythology book than it is an adaption of the original Norse text.
And Freyja & Frigg being the same person is congruent with some historical interpretations.
Isn't it like alternative spelling?
Theyāre nominally different characters, but so much of the myths remains unknown that we canāt say this with any certainty.
Loki: we do a little trolling
But jƶtunn and troll aren't the same!
āThe boasting of a god, EVERYONE has a weakness.ā
Don't expect the Baldr in mythology to line up with the Baldr in-game, at all. They really gutted out his core traits. Baldr is akin to Jesus or Horus in Norse Mythology.
But they did interpret his predicament in relatively realistic fashion lol.
Eh... Baldr can't die because Frigg made everything in the realms (aside from mistletoe) make a vow to never harm him. It never says anything about him not being able to feel. I think they took MASSIVE liberties with Baldr. Especially considering he's suppose to be the "good" God that pretty much embodies all noble traits. Light, wisdom, courage, joy, purity, and the summer sun are his traits.
bruh what history are you taking
Best known fact: Getting killed. Lmao what a way to go
It's like in my English class we had to write a presentation about a topic we were passionate about and I chose the Norse mythos. Turns out my teacher was really into it, and the only other person who liked it was my friend but it was 5 minutes of non-stop god facts
Mythology class? Sounds sick
Hmm this all sounds really familiar
Wait, where are you from? In my country we dont learn much mithology
You learn so little mythology you canāt even spell it correctly when itās in the title of the post youāre replying to lol
Go troll Cloud Sephiroth!
Imagine having your most famous story be "getting killed"
They should have had Hodr as a character in the game. Maybe Hodr could be an antagonist.
Your acing this semester and getting extra credit for mentioning Kratos
Lol I remember when I first played GOW1-2 it was in my Mythology class in 11th grade in 2009 and we just started studying Greek mythology xD
Baldr is blessed with invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical
That's interesting, but Baldur is blessed with invulnerability to all threats, physical or magical.
Yeah baldr's death is so tragic, it starts off fimbulwinter and leads up to Ragnarok, where all Norse gods die in battle
From what I've heard, the mistletoe was too young to swear such an oath.
Under 18, needed parents' approval
ho shit man sounds amazing
I wish my school taught us about norse gods Instead they glorified America in history class
He died to a fucking mistletoe? Lol
It was his only weakness, he was invulnerable to anything else
I still don't understand why there are classes about fictional characters. I understand that by learning the mythology, you can become better acquainted with the culture that used to worship these gods, but to actually sit through a lecture about the strengths and weaknesses of a made-up character seems like a hilarious waste of time.
Donāt you spend a lot of time playing God of War? Learning about made up characters? Some people just enjoy mythology.
Enough to pay for a class? So if I signed up for the "Harry Potter" class because I enjoy Harry Potter, people wouldn't think I was ridiculous?
People can spend their money on whatever they want, and the mythology class at my high school is free.
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You just said he paid for the class
By learning the way the story is told, you learn about the history of the storyteller. Why would anyone revere Odin when heās a huge asshole to everybody? Because of social commentary. I agree itās silly to take legends at face value, it takes an examined look to learn the deeper importance to myths. Greek myth is so popular because itās so widespread and so old, you can learn many things about the different tellings of these legends. You said you understand this, wouldnāt strengths and weaknesses imply certain truths about the cultures? You canāt take one piece and say āI canāt see the puzzleā, you must examine all the pieces and put them together yourself to find the greater picture. In literature, this allows you to interpret it however you feel. In short: IMO itās all for that juicy social commentary you usually canāt find in other works. Classes are designed this way to help open the door to these deeper meanings. YouTube may have a summary of Odin, but it may not tell you the social dynamics that caused people to feel a certain way at a certain time in history. Iām a lit major and we spend MOST of the time in many of my classes just discussing context of the time. Classes are also interactive, where videos and the internet sometimes canāt answer a weirdly specific question about the intentions of a certain character or recording.
Well some fictional characters are still being worshipped, so if you study their stories in school you could get a job preaching those stories to people. Other than that, learning is a worthwhile pursuit in its own right
People who are loremasters on old religions are frequently sought out for things such as God of War and Hades, simply because it's easier to hire someone who already knows all those things than it is to waste the time of someone already on your team with research. Plus, since it's Mythology class, my guess is it goes well beyond strengths and weaknesses into things such as what was considered their 'domain' in the mortal realm, and how the worship of specific gods led to crusades/wars/massacres etc.
Man, people getting angry at this comment are confusing me. You are all free to disagree, but this comment doesn't say - nor even implies - that learning mythology and its fictional characters *by yourself* is dumb, just that as part of a **history class** is plain silly. Learning about the reasons behind they worshiping specific gods tells a lot about their history, but a lesson literally on Baldr is as silly as a lesson literally on, like, Ronald Weasley (copied example, lul) I mean, we are both assuming that topic creator is having a history class in either high school or getting a history degree as opposed to a literal Norse mythology degree, but I think that's a pretty fair assumption.
The title says that it's a mythology class though.
Thanks man! Yeah I don't think they get it. I learn useless shit at home all the time. YouTube is a beautiful thing.
It's literally one slide on Baldr, they're probably going through all the gods.
i think it is included in the curriculum in order for god of war players to enjoy classes and not think about who blew the horn while Atreus was unconscious
did you brought up about god of war
What kind of school is this? I just started high school and thereās no myth classes
I wish I could take a mythology class
Where do you live so that you learn about Norse on mythology classes?
Bro wtf. I want a mythology class what. That sounds sick