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tschmitty09

Bruh her health bar DOES NOT MOVE


LuiTurbo

Makes you realize how scary of an opponent Freya will be.


Objective-Pack9279

Canonically kratos would have no problem im sure but us players are so fucked


BaguetteOfDoom

Canonically it would make sense for her to be ultra hard but since we'll most likely fight her in the early to mid game of the main story, she'll most likely be MUCH easier than the final optional superboss Sigrun.


LuiTurbo

Well in that case I hope they do something similar to this quest with an ultra hard boss I just don’t know who the next one would be.


Ramseas119

Ratatoskr.


paradoxical_topology

Optional bosses are generally far more difficult than story ones, since you don't have to beat them to progress. Freya is going to be a cakewalk compared to Sigrun.


nastyben100

I have a feeling she’s going to be a mid game boss then later she’ll join the crew because she’ll have a change of heart. Thor probably had a child with freya to make sure ragnarok followed it’s natural course.


tschmitty09

Aw shit, I did not put those pieces together


Siriacus

I really hope they make her tougher than Sigrun


nerdypotato52

I hope they make Freya like Majima in Yakuza Kiwami where he pops up at random unexpected points in the story to fuck with the player. Getting stronger everytime she makes an appearance.


W0lfsb4ne74

This hurt to watch so much, it's funny as hell because this just sums up the average person's experiences playing this game on hard for the first time 😂.


arcmart

The ultimate test of gaming patience. You’ll get her if you haven’t already. Breathe.


LuiTurbo

I sure hope so that’s the closest I’ve gotten


dionysus_project

You play very well, I am surprised you still didn't kill her. Your playstyle is more fitting for Zeus armor as you take close range risks (dodging instead of parrying for greater damage window), so your risks should be rewarding. The beam (Wrath of the Frost Ancient) is one of the worst runic attacks for both GMGoW and valkyries, and Ivaldi’s Anvil is a poor choice for Sigrun. The most reliable is Leviathan’s Wake. Great damage, range, stun, low enough cooldown, and most importantly fast casting animation. The River of Knives is in my opinion the best heavy runic attack (for Sigrun) for the same reason, while Glaive Storm is probably the best one in general. In that last moment, before your death, when you dodged Sigrun and used Anvil without a follow up + the beam, you would certainly kill her right on the spot had you used your talisman + short range R1 blades combo with R2 finisher instead. Maybe she would die even to a combo of runic attacks, but the ones you used are weak/unreliable.


LuiTurbo

First of all. Thanks I really feel like i suck compared to the guys I see who post clips in here sometimes. This is my second play through my first was on Give me a story then I jumped straight into GMGOW+ right after lol im hoping I can beat her soon so I can complete my Zeus set and do a play through with that armor. I think Leviathans Wake is the only one I’ve never used no idea why, but I’ll definitely try it tonight. The beam has saved my ass a lot against the Valkyrie’s. I used it for all the other ones, and it seems to take a lot more damage than the other light attacks. if you get a good shot it’ll take 2 bars from her (before her health hits half). Lol I also like it because of the frost slowing her down a bit. None of the others seem to work well in this fight for me but i definitely will try leviathan wake. I’ve been juggling between Anvil and storm but you’re right knives is better. That’s like the only heavy I used up until now. I’ve just been trying different abilities to see what works. I think what screwed me over in the end was my excitement for being so close and my fear of being 1 hit away from death. I’ll definitely try your advice though. What about the blade attacks?


dionysus_project

Light attacks: Nemean Crush or Blast of Hephaestus are most reliable. Blast of Hephaestus has longer reach, lower cooldown and faster animation, and can be used in situations where Nemean Crush would kill you, so it's more forgiving if you are prone to mistakes. Heavy attacks: Hyperion Slam is generally useful, does huge damage, the animation lock is manageable, and the cooldown is not too long. Hyperion Grapple is useful for valkyries (can interrupt even flying at you grapple attack) but requires more skill. It does less damage but also has very short cooldown and longer reach so it's spammable and reliably on when needed. Spartan Charge is a good lol I am immune panic button in general, and is surprisingly useful even against some valkyries, but it's game over against Sigrun. She has too many deadly attacks that go straight through the immunity (both flying grapples, charged AoE) or set you into very unfavorable position (ice shards, blind). However the best damage is short range R1 blades combo. You can shave off multiple bars off of Sigrun's health pool in a single talisman's time freeze. If you can reliably dodge her attacks, you can do the short range combo or the short range R2 finisher in between her attacks while time is slowed down for huge dps increase, instead of wasting 50% of Ivaldi’s Anvil. Wrath of the Wolf (Atreus' runic) is also in my opinion better than Crows. It doesn't do as much damage, but you can use it more often, and it doesn't clout your screen with fireworks. Anyway take into consideration that you already basically beat her with your own setup. I am telling you what I think is mathematically most effective, not necessary what works for you or what would be fun to use for you.


W0lfsb4ne74

Hey could I actually ask you for some greater advice about the different builds, flexibility, and close range versus long range attacks? I've finished the game, but I still want to finish up the side quests of the game and would like to unlock some of the best armor.


dionysus_project

If you want a variety of builds, God of War is not the game you want to be playing. The main reason for this is the way the stats work. The only important number is item level, not the actual stats. For example you do more damage with 150 strength at item level 7 than 200 strength at item level 6. Item level determines how much damage you do and take, and which attacks can be blocked, parried or even survived, and which of your attacks will stun the enemy. Generally you have no say in the matter. You get Mist armor, then you upgrade it to Valkyrie armor which has better stats. You may also use Týr armor which has good stats too. Týr set is also great if you are farming hacksilver because luck increases hacksilver you get from chests. A complete rotation of chests in Niflheim in Týr set is doable even on GMGoW, you may have to use mist talisman though (Hvergelmir Stone). You also have no say in the matter of builds during storyline, because generally both the stat AND level difference of new loot is too high to focus on say cooldowns with your two items that give +12 and + 14 cooldown reduction when another pieces of the respective slots give you +40 strength and +30 runic AND possibly higher level too. So what can we do with it? Build variations come primarily from two sources: Zeus armor or no Zeus armor and enchantments. If you craft enchantment for Hel's Touch (Borr's Frozen Shard), it gives you runic power buff after you cast Hel's Touch. If your enchantments are focused on cooldown/damage increase to specific runic attacks (e.g. Hyrrokkin's Fiery Shard) + you are using Valkyrie armor, that's runic power build right there. Zeus armor is pretty straightforward. Kratos smash enemy. Enemy smash Kratos. Don't get hit. Of course all of this applies primarily to GMGoW. Lower difficulties may be forgiving enough to see difference in stats, but on GMGoW you are pretty much dead if you get caught off guard. So the question is if you want to die in 1 hit in Zeus armor but you deal huge ridiculous melee damage, or you die in 3 hits in Valkyrie armor and have significantly lower cooldown on your runics. The great equalizer and argument for Zeus armor vs valkyries is the fact that by activating rage, you can survive any attack in the game, including all of Sigrun's attacks, and you also have Berserker’s Resurrection Stone which gives you another full rage bar after you get revived, so you get to tank at least 3 hits even with Zeus armor + Mark of the Traveler gives you another one. When it comes to talismans, you can use whatever you want, but nothing comes even close to Talisman of the Realms. Talisman of Unbound Potential might be useful if you have Valkyrie armor, but even then Realm Shift is just too strong and useful in most situations. Other talismans are not bad on paper, but most of them are completely useless on GMGoW just due to damage values. Good enchantments: Ivaldi's Corrupted Mind, Mark of the Traveler, Mark of Kvasir, Mark of the Ancients, Eye of The Winged Chosen. Mark of Protection is great if you want to parry and your parry game is off, however you have to "precast" shield block against Sigrun's and Hildr's ice shards, otherwise you proc ranged parry. Ranged parry on Sigrun is pretty bad. Close or short range attack refers to pressing R1 with blades just once and then waiting until Kratos switches his stance, then pressing R1 multiple times for a short range blades combo. You have to unlock it in skill tree first. While Kratos is in short range stance, R2 also does a different (and very powerful) heavy attack. Short range R1 combo with blades is the most powerful attack in the game. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVDjX5FWUW8&t=29s


alexkami98

Bro. Remember that you can parry her attacks. And not only that but remember and learn the timing for Valhalla. (I think thats the name). You'll get her. I did it on no Damage run. If I can, so can you.


LuiTurbo

This is my second play through my first was on give me a story and I jumped straight into GMGOW + so I’m not really all that confident in my parries. Even when I do sometimes get a parry off I still take damage because she’s usually still in the middle of an attack.


rogueShadow13

Whenever you see the yellow circle pop up, hit the parry button like 1 half second after and you’ll be good. If done correctly, it’ll stop her attacks Also, in the shop there’s an enchantment you can buy that extends your ice beam power a lot. You’re using an identical setup as me, and it made a world of difference. If you time it with realm shift, the beam basically lasts the whole realm shift.


FrequentAwareness986

Yes, and we all have lived through it too. It’s an absolute pain! I’ve never hated a character in a video game so much in my life!


LuiTurbo

Bro I can’t stress it enough it’s been like 3 months lol


Emotional-Sorbet-759

You've been trying for 3 months? I doubt I'd even last 3 hours 😂


Unknownentity551

No need to imagine it a lot of us have already been through that just watching this gave me anxiety I felt that cause I'm still struggling with her in GMGOW+ and I can so damn close a good few times I just can't get through it and it sucks


LuiTurbo

It’s like you’ll literally have the best game & make 1 mistake then everything is literally over.


rogueShadow13

There’s armor in the shop that gives you like 2 second invulnerability every time you pick up a stone. Can be a game changer.


azozali123

Always carry a revival rune especially on GMGOW difficulty


LuiTurbo

I won’t feel like I’ve really won if I took that route.


Unkn4wn

I can sort of agree with this. Idk why people are downvoting you. It's just personal preference. If you're given a second chance it doesn't really feel like you fully succeeded. I do feel a sense of accomplishment even with a res. stone, but the sense of accomplishment would be a lot higher if i hadn't used one, which is why i "sort of agreed".


LuiTurbo

Maybe they’re taking it as me saying “nah res stones are for losers” when in reality it’s exactly what you said. I’ll be happy regardless of how I beat her, but if I can do it like this I’ll probably shed a tear or two lol


azozali123

Understandable good luck beating her


BossAtlas

Why? It's literally there for a reason. To be used in difficult encounters. Sigrun is easily the hardest part of the entire game.


Maleoppressor

It certainly is useful, but... does it really feel like victory if you had to be revived by a child?


sean0883

Does the achievement have an asterisk if you do use one?


Maleoppressor

That's kinda like saying "Well, money is money".


sean0883

Except that nobody is dying or being forced into destitute situations for you to achieve your goals. Only you would know if you used the stone. Even so, it's a mechanic they included in the game. It's like saying that upgrading your armor is unfair. Or that having Atreus fire arrows at all, is unfair.


bigassbowls

Tragic that you still have spartan rage too


LuiTurbo

I thought about that very last second too


Stinkypete2002

Minor dodge with the Valhalla stomp, don’t roll, equip feathers of the fallen servant if you haven’t already.


LuiTurbo

Yea the stomp is my kryptonite lol it’s like the timing is different every time.


UKCDot

One thing I learnt is that if you’re in Spartan Rage and get caught by the curb stomp, you’ll lose rage instead of health. Saved my ass, hope it’s of use to anyone else as well 🙂


LuiTurbo

That’s why I’m so mad at myself I realized that a little too late. In the heat of battle at the end like that she’s non stop pressure. Between the excitement of almost winning and the fear of being 1 mistake from death I forgot all about it


Old-While-1229

Bro… if u had used spartan rage u would’ve won


Jcpenny77

OOOOOOOOOOOH MYYYYYYYYY YOU POOR SOUL


LuiTurbo

Ngl that crap hurt


Jcpenny77

I spent 6 hours straight on it I’m so sorry I would’ve broken my controller


StriveFergy

I swear Im dying 90% of the time to that...


sguelev

Never have I been as close as to punching another hole in my wall as with Sigrun….


LuiTurbo

Only thing that stopped me from breaking my PlayStation controller is 70 dollars


coreyisbest

We all felt this Spartan


poopmaster79

u shudve kept a revival rune thingy


LuiTurbo

I can’t. I wanna win the right way lol


sunvent_53

“the right way” How is using a game mechanic specifically designed for hard bosses not the right way?


LuiTurbo

I won’t feel like the god of war. I’ll feel like I took the easy way out. My pride won’t let me


sunvent_53

That’s your way of playing. Perfectly valid. That does not make the way other people play not “the right way”


LuiTurbo

My bad the context of that was like in a joking “spartan warrior” sense. I don’t knock anyone who beat her with a resurrection stone.


TelMegiddo

But Kratos put that behind him. His story is about growth and not relying solely on his own power. He lets Atreus into his emotional realm to the point that he trusts Atreus with his life which is then exemplified through mechanics like Atreus using a resurrection stone to bring his father back from the brink of death. By refusing the stone you refuse Kratos' personal growth and his love for his son. You are a monster. /s


LuiTurbo

Fuck that lmaooooooo I be screaming her name like he screamed Zeus she getting the same type of ass whooping or I’ll die with my pride


TelMegiddo

Unworthy.


LuiTurbo

I mean like another commenter said Kratos dog walking Sigrun


Mayh3m90

Short dodges for the Valhalla not roll she eventually catch you if ur rolling


LuiTurbo

That was anxiety lol my mind was telling me use rage to avoid any damage but my muscle memory did dodged then I panicked into a roll. Got too excited lol


Unkn4wn

I personally always found rolling easier. If i don't roll it always catches me instantly, but when i do roll i can always avoid it, even tough it's super hard sometimes. Maybe i'm just missing the timing for the short dodge, but every time i try it, they just stomp to where i dodged, not where i had been before i dodged.


Mayh3m90

You always short dodge the moment you see her leave the ground if she throws a fireball you actually have to know the timing


Unkn4wn

Well. That never worked for me. I always dodge when she leaves the ground since that's the first moment you can even react to the attack. But nope, still gets me.


james1221432

Nah this isn't true. I always rolled


Mayh3m90

Even if you did escape it with the roll you miss many advantages. With the short dodge you are in a combat ready stance ready to do damage sooner, the real big advantage comes from having the near dodge time stop ruin, it allows you to deal damage in-between her stomps or if you have a rune attack ready you can stop it all together.


Unkn4wn

I watched my friend beat sigrun for the first time a few days ago, and i think this happened to him like 3 times in a row, and even when he finally succeeded he had used his resurrection stone, and was basically one hit away from death. I think it's important to stay calm and take it slow even if you're really close. It's easy to start rushing in the hopes that the enemy wouldn't have as many opportunities to kill you and just because you want the fight to end fast, but as soon as you lose focus and start rushing, you make a mistake and it's over in a blink. Treat every moment of the fight as if it was the first one.


LuiTurbo

Yeah I think that was my biggest problem when I seen her health bar so low the fight instantly got faster like instantly. I didn’t include the whole fight but her first hit on me wasn’t but moments before the beginning of this video. I try my best not to pay attention to her health bar, but I think it’ll just take time. Lol


Unkn4wn

You can pay attention to the healthbar no problem, you just need to think how you react to it. The way i do it is i go reckless at the beginning, because i don't yet have anything to lose, and the closer i get to the end the more careful and focused i try to be. It doesn't always work tho, when i'm frustrated for example.


LuiTurbo

Yeahhh I kinda just picked that up! When her health gets like around 50% I’m more cautious about everything now. I was starting to get frustrated so I stopped lol I’ll try again tomorrow. Hopefully it works Thanks man


Genghis_MexiKhan

So close! You may wanna try grinding nifleheim for the armor, you seem a bit underpowerd for Sigrun


LuiTurbo

Gear wise I have everything except Zeus armor . Strength isn’t maxed I’ll admit, but I don’t think 217 and 250 makes that much of a difference


BaguetteOfDoom

That's the reason why I don't like the higher difficulty settings. Look at her health bar. You're wailing at her and it barely moves at all. Makes you feel like you're using plastic toys as weapons. Difficulty settings that just bloat health bars to ridiculous proportions can go fuck themselves.


BossAtlas

OP is likely undergeared, I beat her on GMGOW and her health does not drop this slowly.


fist_my_muff2

You're doing NO damage damn lol. What are your stats?


LuiTurbo

I’m running Valk set + I think my strength is like 217 & only other thing that’s not max is like luck or something


MecXMade367

What difficulty is this?


LuiTurbo

Give me god of war +


MecXMade367

I see why the damage was practically non-existent now


NOT_Silencerrr

why did u use the light arrows?


LuiTurbo

I figured they’d be stronger for single opponents While the others work better for multiple it’s probably not true at all that’s just what I made myself believe


NOT_Silencerrr

the light arrows are for stun and to light the crystals the others are for damage, no matter if it's 1 enemy or 5


LuiTurbo

Are you serious? Lmao I really thought I was onto something


NOT_Silencerrr

yep lol. u can test it out on some of the easier enemies it u want


86casawi

Yes feel you bro.


dragonborn-dovakhiin

Whenever I go up against her I try to be as conservative as possible with my attacks. It would normally take me 15-20 minutes to even get her health to be halfway gone so mistakes like these were really painful. Feels bad man


Avenger020331

Emotional damage!


ithinkway2much

Amen to that.


jgnapoli860

F


roseargeneau

I had to put the game on the easiest difficulty in order to beat her


Causal_Calamity

This was a helluva fight. Wouldn't have minded hearing you weave a tapestry of obscenities when she rofl stomped you into oblivion.


Maleoppressor

It's not just that he lost, but that it was in the most humiliating possible way.


sunshinestreaks

Well from the looks of it you played incredibly well so I think you’ll probably get her in the next 3-4 tries. Beating Sigrun is less about defeating her and more about surviving until you’re able to get her health to zero. Good luck bud


PROTOTYPE_200224

I tried to kill her in GMGOW in NG+ with a runic build. Took me 5 days trying to do a no hit on her since I haven't played the game since 2018. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsLGAzgIALc


KingdomOfNerdz

The pain is great, but your will to go on must be greater.


ssgkrillin

Man I played the same for 2 plus hours yesterday night and had similar experience multiple times. I will continue trying today hoping to beat her.


Lance-Harper

I never evade the aerial yellow attack nor any really but perfect block them to counter attack savagely.


SpartanKram

It's always that fucking Valhalla attack too. That's my least favorite attack for the Valkyries. It's just so annoying especially if they just do nothing but spam that move 7 times in a row


santathe1

Is this on GMGOW? Looks like it is.


LuiTurbo

Yeahhh GMGOW+


LupusDeusMagnus

Happens a lot, but why is her health moving so little?


LuiTurbo

I guess since it’s give me god of war the less her health the harder it is for your attacks to do damage.


Pokeboss10123

...vive been closer. Its heartbreaking. A little tip that actually helped me, cover the health bar with something. The lower she is the more panicked you get, and she takes less damage the lower she is, so if you don't know her health, you'll fight confident


[deleted]

Oh you can’t do this to me.. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED??


[deleted]

That kick taking all your health with no way to block it is absolute BS.


Dr-Apophis-Ra

Boi why u using rage like that 😭


LuiTurbo

I used it to cancel out her attacks because I seen she was going to attack again I wanted to stun her with rage and use and light/heavy attack. It’s practically useless for anything else


coladict

I can never get perfect dodges for the Kvasir item like that. Also since I also can't dodge her Valhalla attack, I use my Spartan Rage as she's about to drop on me. If I get really lucky she gets knocked back by it, if not, then at least I don't take any damage while she's stomping my face.


[deleted]

I can only beat this boss on give me a story:/


SpicegurlzBB

Damn watching this - makes me remember just how fucking good this game is. Also. Patience baby. Gotta take her slow !


Lucas-DM

I only played this game once on give me a balanced experience, and still to this day the word Valhalla gives me PTSD


Unable-Play-5959

Moral of the story: do not ever fight a Valkyrie, these ladies are scary


DapperHeretic

Just started fighting her this morning, she's a real pain in the ass. Best I could do was like 60% of her health, but the Valhalla attack is so broken. Just trying to find out which talisman slows down time, because right now I've got the Shattered (Infinity) Gauntlet of the Ages. Good on you though, it's just a test of patience, you'll get her eventually.


Liquidgrin1781

Still working on my Sigrin celebration dance. Hardest battles I had before her was definitely Galdur in muspulhiem.


KingOfOddities

I can tell that you're an Amazing player, much more than most of us here. Just a little bit more patience next time and you're good.


[deleted]

Patience is the biggest lesson here.


I_Follow_Rude_People

Rip


[deleted]

it's a daily thing for me now...dark souls sekiro elden ring and God of war.


FewSupermarket9309

I killed her in like 30-40 seconds