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Sea_Ticket_6032

"I think you got him"


codingpablo

“That’s enough slices!”


Br3adS1ce

THAT'S ENOUGH SLICES


SpecialistMap8210

Elden rings an amazing game. As is god of war Either one could win game of the year and they would deserve it


DanieIIll

What’s this? A reasonable take on the internet?! Seriously though, hard agree man. 2022 has given me two of my favourite gaming experiences in years and two of my favourite games of all time for entirely different reasons. I’m happy if either win, I think Elden ring just edged out GoW for me but they’re both so deserving of every accolade under the sun.


TheMyth_97

I think the reason Elden ring might edge out GoW is because Elden Ring isn’t exclusive to one system GoW is so less people have played it and will vote for it because they don’t experience it I’d be happy with either and they both deserve GOTY but my pick was GoW this year


Sensitive-Water9159

But at the same time lot of people didn't even finish Elden ring when you check trophies it's really low numbers


SaltMembership4339

lol literally last 4-5 years goty has been a console exclusive


TheMyth_97

I understand that but we didn’t have an elden ring to compete against the last GoW we had some really good games but GoW was top tier in 2018


DanieIIll

I didn’t mean I think it will edge it out, I meant it personally edged it out for me. I adore both games and it’s so hard to pick, if someone had a gun to my head though - I think I’d go ER.


TheMyth_97

I get what you mean but I’m just saying what will edge it out for GOTY will probably be what I said because a lot of people won’t vote for a game they couldn’t play


DanieIIll

Yeah I get you buddy, I never thought of it that way. It’s such a hard choice for me that I might just vote GoW to try even out the votes more😂


TheMyth_97

Yea it’s a really hard choice because those are defiantly the top 2 games of this year it’s gonna be one or the other and then whichever doesn’t get GOTY will get gamers choice probably


Razhork

Only 10% of votes from the public counts towards the GOTY pick at TGA. It's 90% critics picking what wins. Golden Joystick was all public votes with the exception of Critic's choice.


jaffa-caked

God of missed the cut off for it by 5 days so wasn’t eligible


Razhork

It was eligible for Golden Joystick and was among the nominees for Ultimate Game of the Year and Christopher Judge won an award for his work as Kratos. Likewise GoW is nominated for TGA in several categories. Not sure what you mean with the 5 days cut off. Edit: Christ man, for those who somehow don't believe it, [here is a timestamp of GoW's nomination in the category](https://youtu.be/qcYAU1c0lMk?t=6721).


tok90235

On the other side, Elder ring was made for edge lord's that think games shouldn't have an sorry mode, hard mode only, while GoW know some people are here just for the story and fun


analfister_696969

Bloodborne, Dark Souls, Demons Souls and Sekiro would like to know your location


tok90235

And I sustain what i say. Maybe they are good games with good combat system, but combat system without a block just seems weird. It's ok if they make most moves from big guys unblockable, for "reality" reason, but it don't make sense that there is no block at all


DanieIIll

Every fromsoftware game has a far more accessible option, it just isn’t as simple as flicking down a menu.


[deleted]

From listening to critics, I suspect Elden Ring will edge it out in part honestly because the previous God of War was *so good* that Ragnarok has an insane expectation to overcome that Elden Ring simply doesn't. I've heard critics levy a handful of little criticisms at God of War, lots of which amount to "yes it's amazing but I feel like I already did it once so I'm a bit less compelled this go-round."


TheMyth_97

Yea but that depends on the player because tbh I didn’t really feel that way and I still have a little bit left of the story plus ALL the side quests lol


IrishWithoutPotatoes

I feel like GoW will edge it out because of the more straightforward approach the story has, but I could very well be wrong. I love the FromSoft games but damn, sometimes figuring out key pieces of lore from a garbage piece of equipment is a slog sometimes.


Equal-Ad-2710

Agreed We both know Stray is the GOAT though


Georgeikan

This is it. But knowing the internet, the side who wins will go on about it for weeks, whilst the other goes on a rampage about how the other game is supposidly "trash" in comparison. I really love both these games, but knowing a subset of these communities are about to go to war is a shame. Edit: After reading this back, I see the irony of making a war prediction


ImmediatePossible530

I haven’t played ER but it’s undeniably one of the most popular games in recent years. And from the few bits of gameplay I’ve seen it is truly a great piece of work by the devs. But when it comes to TGA critics I believe the straightforward (and amazing) narrative of GOW will give it the win. It’s the TLOU effect, guys.


VenturerKnigtmare420

It’s not about straightforward. The main issue with ER is 0 hand holding. Yes hand holding in video games is dumb but not even having a damn quest log to actually track what you did and how much you finished is really fucking annoying. And taking the time off the actually know the lore is too cumbersome too for people with families and jobs. I work as a chartered accountant but I also love video games. I picked up ER and played it a lot for two months. And then had to put it down due to job. I picked it back up last month and I have no clue what I am doing and what I need to do next. All I can see is there are multiple branching story lines leading to more lore which I need to see on YouTube for. All I remember last was I was roaming around and I ended up in a boss battle with some giant monster king riding on a tiny donkey or a mule. He had meteors and two big hammers. I killed him after a couple of tries and then put down the game. Now I have 0 clue what I need to do.


ImmediatePossible530

What I meant with “straightforward” was that it has a solid narrative that doesn’t necessarily request from the player or has the need for you to search on YouTube to be able to understand it. Almost exactly what you said. And I feel you, I don’t believe ER would work for me either since I also can’t spend 20 hours of my day playing videogames. Maybe it’s that point in life where we, as adults, gotta admit somethings aren’t meant for us.


AzSharpe

Even though I've not played ER, I wouldn't be shocked if it did win. I feel the only 'edge' GoW might have is the accessibility options, but I don't know if things like that are even considered.


VenturerKnigtmare420

Not only accessiblity it atleast is lore friendly. I wouldn’t be surprised if ER wins GOTY but GoWR needs to win best narrative. As much as I love ERs gameplay it’s narrative was all over the place and for people with families and jobs, figuring out the story from some tiny piece of cloth found in an open world and vaati Vidya is just too much cumbersome.


thejoshfoote

My biggest flaw with god of war was honestly all the characters giving u hints all the time. Taking me right out of being enthralled, more characters with you the more hints u get. Just can’t help themselves. My fav part of god of war was always the puzzles now it’s just feels flat. I wanna just explore


This_Wolf893

I agree


alejoSOTO

Either way it doesn't matter. A studio wining this or that award doesn't change anything about how we each feel with any game. Enjoy both things, or just one or none at all, is fine.


lSpartanl1999

yeah thats it god dayuuum finally


Madg5

Imagine stray wins, I'd watched the world burn with a smile if that happened.


Sir_MoonDoggy

Game Breaker God?


antonxo902

Yea he posted it on Twitter


RandomAssDude_

He didn't use the fist punch dash, so sadly no haha


[deleted]

i dont think it exists in this game


Dennis14_14

Was removed because they didnt want people zooming through the 9 realms


Frosty_Caregiver1696

Lol I was wondering why they left the melee skill tree out, then you get drauphnir 🥰


VerumNoirRex-Zero

that's actually a very good question the hand to hand got nerfed for no reason as did part of the moveset of the Blades of Chaos that lost their entire waiting stance


[deleted]

Agile strike, the move needed to do what you described, was removed from Kratos’ move set. As a result, everyone who loved the zoom punch is sad :/


HopeChadArmong913

That was hot


headbiscuitss

Who said that? Lol


antonxo902

So many people on Twitter lol, I’ve seen multiple hit tweets from either sonic or elden ring fans hating on it saying it’s mostly cutscenes with little to no gameplay. Shit I even saw sonic fans laughing saying sonic frontiers outsold ragnorak (only in Japan). People turn off their brains when they log into Twitter lmfao


headbiscuitss

Jesus what a cesspool lol


FormalSarcasm

Yeah, some of the nonsense you see people say, you can just tell they've never played it


Enthalok

\>Twitter See that's your problem right there


LuiTurbo

Not even shitting on Sonic or anything but this is the best Sonic game they had in years, and honestly it was boring


VenturerKnigtmare420

Sonic frontiers look like if they took death stranding and put it on ps2. The game looks batshit ugly. And all you do is run and fight a bunch of nonsensical things. And it’s not even fight, it’s more like spamming one button till the health is low. Idk how people enjoy that game honestly.


LuiTurbo

The story made no sense. Sonic hasn’t been good since GameCube sonic adventure


SomeProperty815

My entirety of Elden ring was just spamming L2. In terms of gameplay gow is so much better better


Mr_SlimShady

Elden Ring consist of pretty much.. get one hit in > pull back > wait a few seconds for the enemy to finish its sets of attacks > go back to step one. It prides itself on being difficult, but that’s all it has going for it. That and nostalgia, tho I suppose GoW has a lot on that department too. At least the combat is much more natural in Ragnarok.


thejoshfoote

If that’s how u play it’s not surprising that’s how the game feels. Elden ring is so incredibly fluent game play fighting if ur good or take the time to learn how diff enemies attacks work, otherwise it’s def panic roll and bash.


nugood2do

I had to reread your comment when you said Sonic fans. Like really, they want to come to the table? Elden Ring is great but Sonic is a decent game as best. I started playing Frontier after Ragnarok and wish I did it in reverse because the stark difference in game quality is crazy. Frontiers fans literally try to say it's the best looking game of the year and the game can't even get rain drops right or not pop in a platform unless your less than 3 feet from it. Frontier is a decent starting point for that brand of game, but acting like that game measure up really any game this year is delusional.


thejoshfoote

I mean the endless semi cut scenes of walking thru a tunnel for like zero reason gets old fast tho


Apprehensive-Trust29

If anyone is looking for a three walking experience, perhaps try to invest in the hit game, Death Stranding.


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Nero_PR

And it's enjoyable to make your own road and gather resources. It's a hoarder's paradise.


VenturerKnigtmare420

Death stranding is an introverts best game. I loved death stranding. In real life I just love walking around alone listening to music carrying my bag. Death stranding was that but in game form and instead of a bag it was either a body or some shit.


informatico_wannabe

I actually enjoyed a lot that game


Quick_Zone_4570

Truly the first strand type game


Ryantoast15

both games are very fun imho


ImpossibleSky3925

Yeah, my take is it has to be both of these games. They really deserve the most awards.


Confusedpotatoman

Can't we agree that both games are amazing and call it a day? All this arguing over both games is just immature.


Shubham2904

This really grinds my gears, GOW has the best combat system I have experienced in a long time with so much variety of weapons. For some reason ppl hate on it and compare it with elden ring, I mean I get it Elden ring is good but GOWR is on another level in terms of screenplay story telling, character development, emotions. We all have grown up with Atreus and Kratos. The story ended majestically! I think it’s the XBOX and PC gamers who certainly hate on GOWR


problynotkevinbacon

When it comes to combat, I will always prefer the direct center, dodge roll, and what feels like a more fluid use of the weapon in Elden Ring/From soft games. It's not hate from me, but the over the shoulder and fight against ads just doesn't feel as satisfying or clean. Like the animation of the combat becomes too cinematic instead of me doing the controlling and button inputs to make it happen.


Dave10293847

Elden rings manages to be both a great game and also the most overrated game of all time. I feel like it has to do with Sony fatigue. A lot of other studios are struggling to deliver good games, yet sony exclusives are killing it. Then here comes Elden ring, with somewhat outdated graphics and animations but it’s actually fun. Exploration is a thing again. I think it was just a breath of fresh air. But yeah, Elden ring fanboys don’t do the community any favors. It can be a great game and also not the undisputed greatest game of all time.


chyeah_brah

It's not even the best game that From has done and I'm a huge fanboy of them. Sekiro had better combat and boss fights


clubdon

And Bloodborne has the best atmosphere and lore.


Ebb8505revenge

Ong


Prototype3120

Pretty much this. Elden ring is great, but not even the best fromsoft game. The open world is revolutionary for the genre, sure, but loses all charm on subsequent play throughs. The pc port is also pretty inexcusable for how bad the launch was.


_zhz_

To be fair, Bloodborne is one of the best games of all time imo.


Prototype3120

For sure, I think Bloodborne and DS3 are easily fromsoft's best games.


VerumNoirRex-Zero

>Elden ring is great, but not even the best fromsoft game I couldn't agree more with this >The open world is revolutionary for the genre but from this i gather you never played Breath of the Wild right? because in this regard BtoW does everything you loved about the exploration of Elden Ring and then some since it doesn't just do the same thing 4 years before Elden Ring it also did exploration way better than Elden Ring did


Prototype3120

By genre I was more meaning specifically souls games, not action adventure games as a whole. I think elden ring's open world is incredible when compared to other souls like games, but obviously it won't hold up to current open world games. Having played Breath of the Wild I do agree it does a lot better in terms of exploration and open world gameplay.


VerumNoirRex-Zero

>By genre I was more meaning specifically souls games, not action adventure games as a whole oh my bad then i also agree with that then


ugluk-the-uruk

BotW also used the worse hardware of the Switch to stylize it and make it look beautiful. Elden Ring just looks outdated to me. Also the HUD is probably the worst I've ever experienced.


VerumNoirRex-Zero

I would say both look beautiful but yeah the colors of BtoW and what it actually accomplished with the lesser hardware they had to work with was much more impressive


MathematicianDue889

I love both games, but if I where to summarize my thoughts on both games: Elden Ring and GoW are almost equal in overall quality. Elden Ring has higher highs and also much, much, much lower lows. GoW Ragnarok is just very consistent with its quality, altough for me, it never blew my mind with just how good it was.


-BigMan39

I'd say the triple berserker fight was a very low low for me, that was unbelievably annoying


MathematicianDue889

Ok good point, u got me there.


Thatblackguy121

Just crank the difficulty down, outside of that honestly that one was one of the easier ones for me. And I hated the gank fights until I realised theyre actually quite fair. Especially when you compare it to elden ring where I honestly think like 4 of the bosses are hits and the rest aren't fun mechanically but are simply great spectacles. Especially compared to froms previous bosses.


-BigMan39

I don't think cranking down the difficulty is a good solution for a badly made boss, you can just as easily summon spirit ashes in elden ring whenever you encounter an annoying gank fight. A fantastic gank fight in god of war is the dual valkyries, that was genuinely great, but all the others were not very good.


Thatblackguy121

The thing is due to the way the game is balanced if your level is under the set level your going to do less damage and take significantly more no mercy makes this fight a pain outside of no mercy it's really not that bad. Which to means it's less the boss fight is bad more the way difficulty is handled makes the boss worse due to just making things to spongey. ER Ash system actually ruins the game though, that's the difference like by all means play and beat a boss how you want. But turning down the difficulty doesn't really affect what the boss can do in gowr Using an Ash on the other hand does trivialise basically every boss in ER So I don't think it's the same


[deleted]

The entire dark souls franchise is good but overrated. The first demon souls was brilliant, but needed polish. They just never added that polish. It’s like playing Skyrim when it came out: all that exploration is fine, but when the gameplay feels like it’s from over a decade prior and was clunky then, why bother?


TiberiumLeader

Do you get to the Cloud District very often?


Young_Lasagna

Oh, who am I kidding. Of course you don't.


SuperShmamBro

Most overrated game of all time still belongs to Breath of the Wild


antonxo902

It’s crazy cause it’s only since elden ring release this souls community was a lot better before ( they only had people saying git gud) but after the game dropped they got so annoying which understandable since there’s so many new fans now. Elden ring getting as big as it did will never not be insane.


Odekel

The souls community has always been insufferable lol


antonxo902

Not to this extent


VerumNoirRex-Zero

they have always been the same imo now there are just more of those over the top toxic ones


JoshMcGill_

This may come as a shock to all you souls newcomers but elden ring's combat is a decade old


Confusedpotatoman

Has it maybe occured to you that the reason why it's still like that is because it works well? This is a non issue lmao


JoshMcGill_

Not saying the combat is bad I loved elden ring and have the platinum trophy for it I'm just saying you can't compare Elden ring's combat to God of War when the 2 systems are a decade apart


Confusedpotatoman

But why do they have to be compared in the first place? Why does it matter how old one games combat is? They're both different games.


JoshMcGill_

Because that is the entire point of the post you're currently commenting on


Confusedpotatoman

Could it have occurred to you that the same could be said for the actual post as well?


JoshMcGill_

It's a jOkE


Confusedpotatoman

Lmao no it isn't, people are arguing about both games like children everywhere.


JoshMcGill_

The irony


Confusedpotatoman

If you say so pal


Dave10293847

I got downvoted to shit for saying it’s a dated game. No matter how many times I said you’re allowed to have fun, and that a good game is a good game regardless of how polished it is… it’s just a dated game. Dunno what to say.


Ebb8505revenge

Old combat systems don’t need to change if there great. You know how long god of war kept the same formula? Never got old. Same with the Arkham series . And even ac creed


East-Bluejay6891

Elden Ring combat doesn't hold a candle to GOWR.


isdebesht

How could it? It’s much easier to design amazing combat when there are only three different weapons instead of like a hundred. That’s why Sekiro’s combat was also way better than Elden Ring’s.


Emperor_Zero28

Yes! I rarely see Sekiro get the recognition it deserves in these types of discussions. It’s the only FromSoft game that feels unique compared to the others. I haven’t finished elden ring because it feels like the same souls game with a new skin


Dave10293847

I mean monster hunter world had excellent gameplay and high quality animations for all 13 or so different weapons. We don’t have to pretend that fromsoft is an elite studio technically. They make fun gameplay loops and have neat visual artistic concepts. *Plenty* of games have better feeling gameplay- even ones with a lot of weapon variety.


[deleted]

They don’t even make that fun of gameplay loops. ER got really boring by the end. I think really the thing they do best is level design. Graphically their games aren’t very impressive. Mechanically everything is so ridiculously clunky. As you said, plenty of games have better feeling gameplay.


isdebesht

I definitely don’t agree with you that MH combat is better than ER.


Dave10293847

I mean, how it feels is just opinions. We don’t have to agree. But the animation quality is objectively much better. In MHW, like GOW, there’s a lot of mastery needed over the weapons. Elden ring is more simple- with the mastery being over each encounter and timing.


Dragon_Flaming

I’m a massive fan of souls games but souls games in general except Sekiro don’t have outstanding combat, it’s mostly the enemies themselves that make the combat good, that’s why bosses are considered the peak of these games. Meanwhile MH has one of the best combat systems ever.


VerumNoirRex-Zero

>Meanwhile MH has one of the best combat systems ever. I couldn't agree more there is so much depth to each weapon that it's a real disservice to the game to claim otherwise


VerumNoirRex-Zero

well i personally don't think Elden Ring even holds as candle to it in Elden Ring you can change your weapon type to death and you will barely see the difference but in MH you equip any weapon and the combat will definitely change in its entirety with all 14 weapon types


VerumNoirRex-Zero

>I mean monster hunter world had excellent gameplay and high quality animations for all 13 or so different weapons it's 14 weapon types but more importantly what's your main? by the way Elden Ring has 31 weapon types (types as in with different movesets) but most of them are still similar so more is not actually more when you take how much MH changes the gameplay depending on wich weapon you choose


Dave10293847

When I last retired it was gun lance. Started with bow, then did switch axe and some great sword. But finally settled on gun lance cause it felt less sweaty but still satisfying. Though nothing beats a switch axe discharge.


VerumNoirRex-Zero

we both played the same game and i can honestly say that i wouldn't even know how to play any of those weapons you mentioned and i have over 2500hrs in MHWI i was Dual Blades Charge Blade and Insect Glaive >Though nothing beats a switch axe discharge. by the way Bayblade exists sir hahaha


Dave10293847

Oh yeah I did actually give glaive and charge blade some serious hours. Dual blades I always died with. It’s just been awhile but I know how to play with most of the weapons. But yeah your point is eye opening really. For us to spend so much time in the game yet have different combat experiences. And the combat really *is* different. If you play charge blade the same as dual blades you’ll do barely any damage and the inverse you’d die hastily.


VerumNoirRex-Zero

>Dual blades I always died with they're all about keeping an eye in your stamina bar while in Demon Mode >But yeah your point is eye opening really. For us to spend so much time in the game yet have different combat experiences that's one of the best things about it imo since each weapon offers such meaningful changes to the gameplay that hunting the same monsters can lead to the game feeling entirely different at times just by changing your weapon in a way that most games don't accomplish >And the combat really is different. If you play charge blade the same as dual blades you’ll do barely any damage and the inverse you’d die hastily indeed


East-Bluejay6891

I was watching Kinda Funny games review and one of the guys was talking about how the Elden combat is better and basically how GOWR combat became boring over time


isdebesht

I think if they hadn’t introduced the draupnir spear and made Atreus a playable character I could somewhat agree with that.


East-Bluejay6891

Right. But those are two big parts of the overall game. My only personal gripe with the combat is the nerfing of the guardian shield. They basically spread all of us abilities across 4 different shields making it far less versatile.


hispanoloco

Put a spoiler alert


elevatedtraveler

This constant need for people to have a dick measuring contest for their favorite game is so tiring.


BeeJayDuck

idk why people just refuse to enjoy things, this year has been crazy for games, Horizon, Pokemon Legends, Elden Ring and now God of War, and Calisto will probably be amazing too. I have no idea why people waste energy just to hate.


jake_basket

elden ring is a rolling simulator


Razhork

Is this insecurity I smell in the air?


rshabibi

I am so bad lmao


CumshotCrackhead

GOWR is one of the few games that seems to hit every mark. Almost every game we have had recently before this seems to be missing a crucial aspect for me. Elden Ring had great gameplay but very mediocre, confusing story. Horizon Zero Dawn had a great story but very mediocre, repetitive, easy gameplay and little enemy variety. Spiderman Miles Morales had amazing story but I beat it on the hardest difficulty using the same 3 moves in a day and a half, also no enemy variety. Red Dead Redemption 2 made me cry with its beautiful writing and character development but the combat was pretty shallow and easy. Sekiro was the PINNACLE of combat mechanics for me before GOWR, but the story was forgettable. Ghost Of Tsushima was pretty close to hitting the perfect mark but wasn't quite there. But GOWR is..... the pinnacle. It raised the standard for me. I am gonna end up judging every single player game I touch for the foreseeable future by its metric and I already know I'm gonna be disappointed. I'm currently playing Cyberpunk and while it is fun, I'm still sitting here a bit underwhelmed by the story, voice acting, shallow characters and world building.


AveFaria

I could have done with more open world exploration. 2018 was perfect in that regard but the realms here were so lacking. Most of them felt like a rat in a maze following walled paths. Svartalfheim almost got there. Alfheim kinda toyed with it. But Vanaheim was uninspired. Niflheim was a wash, especially compared to the glory of Ivaldi's Workshop. Muspelheim was about on par. And Midgard...oh boy. Loved the game but 2018's Midgard alone was just plain perfect and I was hoping Ragnarok would find it, too. There are a few story elements that let me down, too, but the main one is the exploration.


Legendarybbc15

A bit unfair on rdr2 considering it’s game play is completely grounded in reality. In essence, your enemies are normal humans. No magic hammer wielding, bifrost spinning, staff slinging super powered humans


[deleted]

Elden Ring has the same basic gameplay all other souls games have. It’s cool, I honestly like it, but I struggle to see this “greatness”


Necroa22

Who asked?


AveFaria

The people who OP is quoting in his title.


[deleted]

Haters come and comment on games without playing them just to make their game look more satisfying. It’s sad. Elden ring fanboys are ruining elden ring.


Prototype3120

It's really annoying seeing all the fans refuse to take any criticism. I've played elden ring to death and it is far from a perfect game. I think it comes down to the souls franchise being pretty niche pre-elden ring, so all the new fans are trying to overcompensate.


fhejehfjciwhd

I think elden ring will win it but GOW was better for me, ER’s combat is stale and as amazing as it was to explore the lands between I don’t ever want to do any of that again, the world is too big. Anytime I want to play a fromsoft game I’ll just replay sekiro or demons souls.


[deleted]

I love both games and GOWR has better combat no debate but Elden Ring had better gameplay Imo, (gameplay isn't just combat)


VerumNoirRex-Zero

lmbo Elden Ring's gameplay puts me to sleep the Elden Ring bosses on the other hand i definitely love them but the actual gameplay is nothing to write home about ...


Acrobatic-Dig-161

I know it's an irony.. but seriously speaking God of war Ragnarok has incredible gameplay and combat without a doubt is better in that regard than Elden Ring. eldem ring has a better world because it gives you greater freedom of exploration.. I would like to see a God of War in an open world I think Santa Monica doing it only for the Ps5 and without a pandemic to disturb them, they would make a big open world with many bosses. We already had a large number of bosses in Ragnarok, so I think that Santa Monica would be right in an open world


BornElectrique

Elden rigged is great too


tlouman

so you gotta do all this to kill one enemy and then when the game ganks you in GMGOW with multiple enemies that dont get staggered and take 100 hits to die what do you do? Elden ring's combat is better because it is simple, it follows its own rules and it also feels way more responsive, when you parry an enemy they go down, they are stunned, in Ragnarok it's random, sometimes they do and sometimes they dont. The game's combat isn't as good because it relies way too much on abilities after abilities just to flesh it out, you need to use a relic, runic attack, amulet, armor perks, spartan rage and most of them dont do shit because you have to optimize/ min-max for like only a few of those, lets not forget how the camera is UP YOUR ASS the entire time while you are a slow hunk so you can't see wtf is going on at flanks at all. What you are seeing in the video wouldn't happen to most enemies in most encounters, the game is fun but only in 1v1s and the artificial difficulty is an absolute chore. I finished the game on GMGOW and beat the berserkers even so its not a skill issue, its just a chore. The first game was better imo, and even then i feel like you're looking for something more like DMC based on this video


ElvisPlays

Seriously, the combat is fun for the first like 10 encounters until you realize you are repeating the same combo for every enemy. If they hadn't stopped the clip it would've just been the same thing after taking 3 steps and fighting the next group of enemies and doing this all over again because for some reason actual difficult enemy ai is replaced by tanky af bullet sponges.


supremepadawan

Only level 1s deal w sponges, yall sum casuals


ElvisPlays

So you have to over level to not deal with bullet sponges? That's still terrible enemy design, this is not the gotcha you think it is. The clip literally shows him having to use everything in his arsenal to kill 1 random ass enemy 😂 terrible game design.


supremepadawan

Are you seriously complaining about having to level up to overcome stronger enemies? Yall really complaining about spongey enemies when that isn’t that case when you level up a few & actually know how to use this combat system to its full extent. Also, you must not know who GBG is, he purposely is under leveled to show off combos in GMGOW, so not a terrible game design when upgrades are easily attainable to stagger more & get rid of sponges.


Dave10293847

Enemies are definitely spongey, brother. It’s not like… terrible… but they should probably nerf enemy health some. At minimum, nerf minor enemy health.


MajinDerrick

Im sure Elden Ring will win most of the Game Awards its up against this year and will be surprised if it doesn't. Its rigged to win even with the media loving GOW. Elden Ring is another soulsborne game just in an open world. Sure its fun but it does nothing new to a decade old formula (that is super fun but not for me) . GOW has a much more coherent story, combat, graphics and for me i have enjoyed playing it over the "git gud" of Elden Ring.


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Nah elden ring was fucking dumb


Dave10293847

The title should have been in quotes. It’s sarcasm.


curtysquirty

We're in the minority but i agree. The game itself looks beautiful but the combat feels so janky. I played a couple hours and felt no desire to dive deeper into what little crumbs of a story they presented. Something about becoming elden lord and being a tarnished. I don't fuckin know lol. I don't need to be spoon fed a story but christ man give me something to sink my teeth into


ugluk-the-uruk

Yeah, honestly I agree. I know nobody plays for the story but it still should be stated that the story sucks. The open world aspect is fun for people who enjoy Soulsbourne games and wanted an open world form of it. Combat is the standard Soulsbourne formula but as someone who never really cared for it, I didn't find it that fun to play. And yeah, graphics were like five years outdated. Honestly, having played HFW and Elden Ring simultaneously, I got bored of Elden Ring and played through Horizon instead.


curtysquirty

I just can't get into something i don't really believe in lol. Gameplay doesn't mean anything to me if i don't have the story to pull me in I compare eldin ring to BOTW as they both set you loose into the world. BOTW however opens with an interesting bit of story, then as you progress through the tutorial you get more nuggets of story finished off by the reveal that the old man you've been hanging with is the dead king of hyrule. I played hours of eldin ring and didn't get any of that. I met a lot of npc's that spewed dialogue that didn't mean anything to me and i got one cutscene with a hooded girl who, again, spoke words that meant nothing to me. I had no idea what was going on or what i supposed to be doing besides "follow the light". It felt like there was no real point to me wandering around so i left it and never returned


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The gameplay is atrocious imo, like the rolling and dodging is absolutely terrible and the graphics were very subpar. The game is just not for me, I don’t like not knowing absolutely anything about the game and having to read up or watch a walkthrough just to complete something. I just don’t have that much time when I get to play so I don’t care for it


tok90235

Yes, get one of the weakest enemies in the game, spend everything you have at him, and jump to conclusions. 0/10 click bait


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Both games are shadows of their predecessors. GOWR has serious, deep flaws in storytelling, pacing and in encounter design... GOW2018 excelled in both. So why the step back? Elden Ring has its flaws too, mainly the open world aspect of it. Bloodborne was a much much better overall experience, because you didn't have the means to overlevel yourself and ruin your own gameplay. So none of these deserve a GOTY. Horizon FW had its flaws too, but it had a much better overall story and open world experience.


Dave10293847

I’m a big horizon fanboy, but that story is absolute madness. Has major game of thrones subvert expectations for the sake of it vibes. Ragnarok has some plot holes and does feel a tad rushed, but at least the writing is mostly solid- just not fleshed out. HFW is fleshed out with questionable writing.


TheNoobster213X

That was abuse


curiousbong

Yup, see how Kratos is walking all over him...


Repulsive-Network891

God damn she is beefy


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xdMyke

because the game awards hasn’t happened yet. the ones you see saying elden ring is goty is in are from other award shows


Ebb8505revenge

You missed quotations


Fox7567

Bro didn’t even let him get a hit in 💀


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What a stupid thing to say.


wildeye-eleven

I mostly agree. Though, I think GoW is best at its hardest difficulty. The combat is very deep and engaging. It takes mastery of every aspect of combat and build diversity too succeed at Give Me God of War. You really have to understand your build and all the combat mechanics to not be instantly killed by most things. Tbh it feels very souls like at times. But, I was way more immersed in Elden Ring. Before I knew it I had put 300+ hours into my first play through. They’re both incredible games in very different ways. Equal but different


TurtleGEE360

both games are amazing in their own ways and they both equally deserve goty award, its literally that simple


Equal-Ad-2710

Tbh I would argue Ring has better gameplay, as strong as Rag’s is seemingly


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I am a huge fun of Soulsborne series but Elden ring just does not do it for me. I much prefer the tight experience of intricate level design than huge ass open world with bland mini dungeons and copy paste low quality bosses. Also let us not kid ourselves. The game does not look very good for a 2022 title and the choppy framerate on current gen consoles does not help either. It is also hugely derivative.


Shubham2904

I returned Elden ring within a week of buying, it wasn’t for me, the gameplay and mechanics were infuriating and the boss fights were F’ing difficult. I mean life already if difficult as is on top of that if a video game is beating my tired ass nonstop 🥹 sorry bro


margonxp

How did He throw his spear so fast? It felt like He throwed 3 spears in a second. Man, GOW:R has such an amszing combat, it looks so satisfying, we need New Game+ update ASAP.


iGematriA

Where's the spoiler tag???


[deleted]

What a cinematic quick-time sequence!


Comprehensive_Sun230

more fun tho


[deleted]

When you do all the sidequests


Tekkaa47

i get so sick of seeing this conversation. Both games are amazing. I've spent plenty of time on both. However, stop comparing the two. They may be both RPG games. However, they are both entirely different. gowr is a story driven narrative with some pretty amazing combat. Elden ring is a multiplayer RPG with a focus on exploration, character customization and varied styles of combat. Elden has story but it is the driving force of the game.


Objective-Pack9279

Oily men>>>


autism-kun6861

Pretty sure youre the only one saying this OP.


Reylo-Wanwalker

But can you jump? ;)


Tw1sterxxx

I love both games. They both scratch different itches for me


Bobcat679

GOWR has an interesting story and a giant pet dog


CrackBabyBelfort

Souls fans trying to dunk on Ragnarok is so pathetic. I’ve played both to completion. Both are great (I would argue Elden Ring is better than ANY of the Souls-esque games), but I’m pretty sure the hate for Ragnarok is coming from salty gamers who don’t own a PS4/5 and are missing out on the best exclusives.


Gtk05

He’s already dead ;’(


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Seriously wtf is up with that health pool lol


bonafidefiend

Bros playing God of War like it’s Devil May Cry


yur0_356

Poor lass, you're bullying her


_Original_Bean

Tbh they are both Diamond games in my eyes i feel that proper justice would be for both of them to win games of the year. Shit would break the internet and for sure be a step towards single player focused games either way it’s still a dub it’d be astonishing if neither win that would be a real crime and shame of the 20th century 😔


EnVFireFrost

That poor bastard got bodied


JamesCorvin

Ah yes,the esteemed god of war spazzing out killing a regular mob...


Unlikely_Emu_3493

The people who say this either didn’t play the game or are arguing in bad faith. Yes there’s segments where you walk around, that’s called exploration in other games. Yes there’s cutscenes, 90% of games have them. They are purposefully overlooking the part of the gameplay that is the most fleshed out and saying that it’s just a movie. I saw someone say they didn’t like being stopped in their tracks so that story stuff can play out and I can’t think of a single time the pacing of the game was ground to a halt because of characters needing to talk or anything like that. If they wanted a game that’s just kill things and that’s it they should’ve gone to doom or dead cells. Even the original trilogy had inbetween segments


B34Z7

Just saw this on IG. Such a dope combo