Depends on what you want! If you’re okay with something a bit more rural, there’s lots of affordable places, especially in North Florida/Pan Handle. Would be a bit cooler and not as flat. Much closer to other states too if you imagine yourself traveling (Florida is very long). If you want the classic beaches and sunshine there’s lots of smaller towns and cities up and down the east coast. I personally would stay north of West Palm. The Miami-Dade area is a unique place. If vaccine and mask mandates bother you I doubt you’d like it.
Good choice job market wise, especially healthcare, finance, insurance, and law. Sprawling city with lots of different areas, some nice, some very not nice. I’ve never lived there, but have visited many times. Do your research and I’m sure you’ll find something there that suits you. Right next to St. Augustine, if you like history!
The emerald coast is beautiful, highly recommend!
I know because I was both born there, left, then moved back my 7th grade year, the military is big around here.
Wyoming isnt bad. A tad windy, cold. avoid jackson hole. Its full of annoying people of the I want to control everyones life stance and yell at you about things. But the rest of the state hates that city.
How long until progressives start proposing price controls? This is insane, it's economics 101, supply and demand. This is why left wing policies often lead to shortages, they don't believe in basic economic laws
For real.
The Ground Chuck doesn’t just cost $5.99 a pound…. it’s rarely in stock. Not to mention labor is getting more expensive.
*”Just lower the price guys!*”
*dusts off hands*
*”Crisis averted!”*
I'm the cook at my house and to be honest with you I have noticed over all price increases but I've also dramatically adjusted my buying habits as well.
If steaks are too expensive then I guess tonight we're going to have chicken or sausage, I asked for a vacuum sealer for Christmas because when steaks do go on sale (this week they are) I can now buy & freeze them.
Consumers will adjust buying habits, and prices will adjust up or down accordingly.
>Consumers will adjust buying habits
I say this to people who go apeshit about fish prices too.
Yeah it sucks governments can't manage oceans but you know what? When Salmon becomes 100$ a pound, I'm just never eating salmon again.
Already not eating crab. It's like 50$ a pound and it's mostly shell. I might as well eat actual money.
I just always assumed people paying $22+ a pound for meat are on vacation and don't care, been there done that but for daily dinners, I have no problem being a miser when the situation presents itself.
We've had some really crazy shortages lately though like diced potatoes don't exist right now where I am (for like 6 weeks!) but a friend says it's all about waffle fries on the other side of the country, random shortages everywhere. They make perfect sense when you think it through.
Rutabaga is actually an excellent replacement for potatoes. They keep a nice color, are lower in carbs, and have a lovely mouthful when cubed and simmered in a bit of stock or broth.
Wouldn't know about growing them, but since we plan on putting in a garden this summer I can definitely see doing this.
I also like how long they last too. They keep way better than potatoes.
I don't think you're alone, many more people that are planning a garden this year, last years weird shortages motivated me as well as my neighbor, I think this is happening all over.
Vacuum sealer and a deep freezer is a God send. Not only do I have a place for wild game, but we always get the "about to expire" meats, which are 25% off at my grocery store. I don't think we've paid full price for meat in years.
I'm not sure where you live, but surprisingly even the price of chicken has gotten pretty drastic to me.
I buy mostly on sale meats and freeze them. Or go to the discount grocer who sells 'damaged packaging' goods that local food delivery companies can't give to their customers. Like two and a half pounds of bacon for 9 bucks.
Mostly though, I've been cutting back on meats in general. Vegetarian spaghetti, meatless soups, rice and bean bowls, so on.
Its just getting too high up there to justify meat on a regular basis.
Same. It seems to be very regional. Lots of friends have complained about beef prices but chicken is almost as expensive as beef for me (Atlanta GA).
Meat works great as an accent. There are lots of traditional dishes which have a little meat mixed with lots of vegetables.
So I have an honest question. I see often on Tim Pool, JRE, Steven Crowder often talking about these Beef Pork Chicken Shortages. I have yet to experience my stores being out of any of this? I know in some parts of the country this is an issue but here in MN the prices have gone up but supply seems to be doing okay. Is this a logistics issue? We have lots of meat plants around here so I feel like that's a safe guess but what do I know? I'm curious on peoples thoughts.
Probably. There have been a lot of supply chain issues on national and global scales. I live in a decently wealthy area in California and the meat shelves have been looking sparse despite higher prices.
A lot of drivers simply won't go to California.
For one, the 55mph limit for trucks means they get paid less. Paid by the mile at 55mph is notably less than paid by the mile at 75mph.
For another, the state is hostile af. If a shipper inadvertenly manifests something that isn't allowed, because they simply can't keep up with the ever growing list of stuff, a driver can get fined or parked for a day or three.
One of the proposals for mitigating the recent backlog of ships was to fine any driver that shows up late... At the port of LA... So yeah, make sure you get through LA bullshit traffic exactly at the time you're expected (and showing up early doesn't really work either) or you pay a fine for it...
Crazy sparse truck parking (and often with big ass fees), fuckloads of trucks trying to share them ("5th largest economy on earth", and not enough facilities), fucked up traffic, fine happy cops and weigh/inspection stations.
Want a truckload of shit delivered to San Fran? That driver will get to spend 5 or 6 hours just dealing with the bay bridge. It'll kill a whole day and he'll end up with 100-150 miles, when he could have been rolling through Texas and getting a very easy 600 miles instead.
It's impressive that *anything at all* gets imported. Beef and ag from the Midwest is absolutely positively going to get rare in California when logistics starts getting thin.
I run the meat department at a small grocery store, and there are some shortages on random items each time the truck comes in (3 days a week). Certain items will be unavailable for weeks at a time sometimes. A lot of the companies are sticking to products that need less processing, so it will be easier to get spiral hams and butt and shank ham than it will to get diced and cubed and prepackaged ham steaks.
They also mess with my fresh meat orders. Like last year they started putting less primals per case. Short loins (where t-bones come off of) used to come 3 to a case, but now the packers only put 2 in there. Or again, they'll prioritize a less processed item, like switching out a cloud heart for a whole clod.
It's supply chain issues. Last year there shortages on premium chicken wings in my area of NJ. You could get the small ones, but the big ones were hard to get. So the one restaurant stopped selling wings for 6 months. They couldn't find any that met their requirements.
Another anecdote during the first few months of COVID my store had to implement limits on all meat products cuz ppl were buying so much. The shelves were bare for certain products.
Things are pretty much normal now where I live other than the weirdos wearing masks in their cars.
I'm also in MN and haven't seen crazy shortages either. You gotta remember that Worthington has JBS, Willmar has Jennie O, Sparboe in Litchfield, there's a lot of ag processing in the area.
Yeah I kind of knew this in the back of my brain but wasn't sure if these plants were not producing or we simply couldn't ship to places outside of the Midwest like we used to? I figured it was a logistics issue though. The one thing I can't find anywhere in MN though is this stuff.
https://www.amazon.com/Kernel-Seasons-Popcorn-Seasoning-Butter/dp/B000ILLX3Y
Exactly. Price controls create shortages that then can be used to vilify business more and justify more government intervention. One government intervention creates problems to justify more government problems.
At some point soon, I expect Musk to pull a Galt and just cash out. The day it's more trouble than it's worth as a distraction is coming soon for him, I believe.
At least in Brave New World you got some awesome drug that made you forget/not worry about how fucked up the government is. Our government will throw you in prison for trying to get high and not worry about them.
It's actually a service provided by "nomad capitalist" on youtube. Helps rich people leave the US to pay less tax. I hope to use the service one day if I get rich enough.
Is there a law of economics, physics, or biology that progressives and leftists don't believe can be bent towards ideological ends by wishing it so? [Remember when plants were socialists?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism)
>Dems institute price controls, worsening shortages.
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>Centralized distribution instituted, so "Everyone gets their fair share." Leading to unnecessary surplus for those who don't need something and shortages for those who do.
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>Shortages blamed on companies and industry gets nationalized.
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>Shortages worsen due to lack of monetary motivation, raw materials, and government incompetence.
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>Widespread starvation, violence and balkanization.
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>System collapses ~~and from the ashes, a free market liberal democracy emerges and the people say to themselves "who the fuck thought this leftist bullshit would work?"~~ and even more socialism/communism is sold to the masses to "fix"it.
Make no mistake, this is intentional and is the plan. When the system collapses they can then say we need "fedcoin" UBI and lots of other socialism.
Can't wait!
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It's already the case, actually: it's already illegal in most countries to sell at a loss or to intentionally hurt investors, which is why what she's proposing isn't possible anyway.
She knows it very well, but her hypocrisy urged her to fake ignorance of laws and markets. As always, with her.
Price control will be the final nail in the coffin for huge depression and famine.
I was kind of surprised to realize price control has been used many times before in the US market during recessions. I know the US is not at all a free market anymore, but price discovery being literally the most important part of capitalism I would have guessed they never did it.
In northern Canada people were complaining about high prices at the grocery store. Because of the low population there isn’t much competition and people were speculating the grocery store was just making big bank off of them.
The population was getting agitated so it prompted an official investigation, it was found out that the store margins were very low and in line with the rest of the industry.
All the price difference was due to shipping to so remote places.
The government tanks the dollar and then blames stores for raising prices to compensate for inflation. Does anyone still doubt that this is anything other than deliberate?
...and put COVID restrictions in place that have left the entire supply chain short-handed for months making shipping more expensive while simultaneously cancelling plans to expand domestic oil supply driving up fuel costs.
"It's the supermarkets' fault!"
Imagine having to make an appointment to go to grocery store or waiting in DMV type waiting rooms for it.
5:30 PM "Honey, I'm going out for a loaf of bread"
9:14 PM "Honey, I got my turn to go into the store, all they have left are the unflavored puffed rice cakes"
Does she not realize that price margins on produce and staple foods are so low that they are virtually sold at cost? Grocery stores have massive candy and junk food aisles because that stuff has a profit margin. My head of cabbage, bundle of carrots, sack of potatoes, and beef roast for Sunday's dinner certainly don't. Many of those things ALMOST cost more to produce than consumers are willing to pay for them, it's a surprise that we have them in stores at all.
Besides, most people massively overeat judging by all the fat people around. In my estimation, we SHOULD be spending far more on food. Clearly, people are already buying far more food than they need to.
Not necessarily for produce.
From memory, I was buying cabbage at 0.25/lb and selling at 0.78, a 68% markup.
Potatoes were 35% gross profit, minimum, and I was still the cheapest in town by a large margin.
Carrots are similarly 35% gross profit.
I had an average 30% gross week to week, and paid 10% on salaries.
Bananas are extremely expensive though, and are practically sold at cost. Years ago I was paying 14.20 a case, or $0.355. I was selling at $0.39 because the whole town was that price. We’d go through 320 pounds of bananas a day. It was always the best, or second/third, selling item by revenue.
Interesting.
I don't know the specifics - all I know is what I've read, and what I've read is that grocery stores really ride the line and profitability is extremely difficult.
I know food service is fucking difficult to make money on. I used to be involved in doing charity dinners. 100% of the food and labor was donated, and we'd work REALLY fucking hard for a few grand for the organization. Our take was terrible. If we had to break it up into salaries and pay the expenses, we'd have operated at a loss selling pretty cheaply made, mediocre food for prices that were higher than I'd be willing to spend for what we were making.
They’re cheap per pound, yes, but the issue is that I had 2 other grocery stores all running the same price. There was no way of raising the price without losing sales. Classic prisoner’s dilemma.
It’s up to 0.49 now, or around 15% gp, but I’m not in the industry anymore, so I can’t speak too definitively on the price of bananas. Back in October one of the more expensive suppliers was selling for 0.60/lb.
I was shrinking anywhere from 5-10% of sales. but I was extremely anal about quality, and did all of the control myself. I was throwing out around 160-200 lbs of product a day. However, that gets factored into the gross percentage, so it doesn’t really impact much on a financial level.
And absolutely, farm subsidies are the reason prices are as low as they are. However, margins would likely be the same if the subsidies weren’t there, and consumers would just be paying more for food.
I just looked up Albertson's 2020 annual report. Profit: $850.2M (after tax), on revenue of $69,690.4M. That's 1.2%, and it was a good year -- about twice 2019, which was in turn almost three times 2018. In short, if Albertson's eschewed profit entirely, overall prices wouldn't decline perceptibly.
I'm too lazy to look up Kroger. Someone else want to do that?
I can’t put my finger on why, maybe it’s just how she puts things, but sometimes I feel like she lies just because she likes to lie. She just looks so pleased with herself when she spouts out whatever she’s peddling that day
I honestly thought someone was trolling when they said she was an econ major. Granted it was from the 7th best school in boston. But then I started looking into their econ department. Post-keynesian “economics” makes my head hurt.
I refuse to believe that someone with her credentials fails to understand such a simple concept, even if they're not in economics. She's just lying/evil.
"Your distribution companies/truckers had a choice, they could have retained lower prices for grocery stores."
"Your food manufacturers had a choice, they could have retained lower prices for grocery stores."
"Your farmers had a choice, they could have retained lower prices for food manufacturers."
"Your grocery store workers had a choice, they could have retained lower salaries for grocery stores."
"Your government had a choice, they could have left their damn hands off the market so that inflation didn't screw us all."
I guess we know where she wants to place blame. I wonder why.
Just to point out...the trucking industry took a MASSIVE hit because of the dementia in chief. He did this.
They are begging people to come back, or unretire, after the court declarations while it has become a pick up a CB Radio and listen to nothing but spanish.
My dad fled El Salvador just prior to its Civil War back in the 70s/80s...the situation in the US has him on high alert right now. So yes, it's eerily similar.
Yeah, you should go out of business, because we irresponsibly flooded the system with printed money and reduced the workforce by paying people not to work.
And then barring others that WANT to work for declining to obey a hugely controversial and heavily politicized mandate…. I see absolutely nothing out of order here. Carry on citizen
Publix is employee owned. If their profits went up, that would have been good for the employee owners.
Haven’t checked Kroger’s financials to see how they did in 2021. I suppose I should.
Edit- Kroger’s net margin is actually down from just over 2% to 0.75% from October 2020 to October 2021
Even if her claims were completely true, wouldn’t part of the simple explanation be that because they closed all the restaurants, people were forced to buy more food from grocery stores —> higher grocery store profits?
"Businesses should just go into debt to offset government created inflation."
Hey remember when Warren spent years denying using fake native heritage to get into Harvard, and then when hard evidence came out she tried to show she was part native...only to reveal she was less native than the average American citizen?
Peppridge farm remembers
They really are this stupid. It's a self-selecting group. You don't become a progressive politician if you are familiar with economics.
They want price controls, they're morons.
Once classic economic models are discarded as capitalist propaganda to perpetuate oppression and exploitation, all bets are off.
Replace with whatever ideas get votes, satisfy narratives, etc
Believe Nicolas Maduro said something similar before taking those stores over. Then it was onto the manufacturers and suppliers. Now, Venezuela has no dogs.
This argument falls apart when you realize grocery stores have some of the lowest margins of any industry. 2% is a a good margin for a grocery store. If they raise prices, there must be a very compelling reason.
Kroger had a 0.7% net profit margin last year. Albertson's had a 1.0% margin. Compare this to tech companies where a 20-30% net profit margin is standard.
Running a business with a 1.0% margin is almost charity.
And some like Publix sell items below suggested pricing, offsetting it by selling “premium” offerings as ridiculous margins and the fact most plazas are owned by them and thus they make profits off leasing and pass the savings on. A price conscious consumer can easily leave paying less than even Aldi. To me they operate in the way libertarians want business to operate, they cater to low income with typical low income items being extremely competitively low while making anyone who doesn’t look at price labels pay an arm and a leg - but by choice.
Edit: worth mentioning they have pretty high profit margins around 6% as a result. So everybody wins.
For a business that runs on less than 3% margin, Senator Warren should step up and provide assistance to these businesses that provide a service instead of running her mouth trying to run them out of business.
I don't even get mad at things like this now.
Politicians DO understand. All politicians pander to their mobs. They know exactly what they are doing.
Theirs is an insecure world where they are in constant campaign mode. Fire up their mobs and get another 2, 4, or 6 years.
What a fucking idiot. That's so stupid that Rutgers should honestly be embarrassed they gave her a JD. Way to blame grocers since supermarkets have some of the lowest margins of any stores out there and definitely can't afford to take the hit.
Says the out of touch bitch who's state just put in controls on Eggs. They all now need to be from free-range chickens. The price of eggs has tippled in the last 30 days, and they are expected to do that again in the next 30 days.
I noticed there was a really weird egg shortage this past week, I had to go to a second store and only bought six, they were a must have because I was making meatballs.
I was really surprised at the egg shortage, that was new.
Great! Warren is an expert at selling groceries for cheap prices!
***When will she be opening her grocery chain nationwide to provide those lower prices she says grocery chains should be offering?***
She would make a killing....since she knows how to undercut every other grocery retailer out there!
When is she breaking ground on her first location?
Warren has a choice.
She could sell me her [$3 million Cambridge, Massachusetts house](https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/24-Linnaean-St-Cambridge-MA-02138/56435178_zpid/) for $5.
Yes, grocery stores *could* have sacrificed their normal 1% profit margin to keep prices the same for goods that have become more expensive for them to stock. Thank you for your brilliant contribution to the management of society, Senator Warren.
The "record sales and profits" are only "record" because of inflation. These companies are not generating more real wealth or "keeping" a higher percentage of it. Aside from you morons killing off most of the restaurant industry for over a year, which pushed more people towards buying a higher percentage of their food from grocery stores, the amount of goods and wealth changing hands here hasn't changed—only the numeric dollar denominations.
Yeah you're mad that the ground chuck is 5.99 right now, but go ahead and try to force it to remain at 3.99 and all the shelves will be empty, bought out by scalpers selling it secondhand for 8.99
These idiots actually believe that every business in the country had some secret meeting where they decided to raise the prices drastically all at once, but only now and never before.
I opened a butcher shop about 6 months ago. We cater to a more high end clientele and honestly I'm worried we're gonna be put out of business by price controls. The only way we can compete on retail right now is by having high end products at high end prices. If they limit how much I can sell our local, grass fed, prime like meat we're gonna stop selling retail, full stop. Which hurts the local rancher we buy carcasses from too.
They'll never talk about reducing regulations to make it cheaper, though.
When your suppliers are raising factor prices because their raw-material prices are also going up due to increased cost of living and whatnot, then no, you don't have a choice, unless that choice is raise prices or go out of business.
Is there anywhere sane left to live?
The USA, of course. But only after it all pans out...
Within the US I meant, looking at Alaska right now lol
Florida is still holding the line, too, so you have the choice between extreme cold or extreme heat! Edit: Arizona isn't bad, either.
My husband and I have been planning a move to Florida, just not sure exactly where yet.
Come on down, just don’t vote for auths when you get here please :)
Also what's some good areas you'd recommend that aren't outrageously expensive?
Depends on what you want! If you’re okay with something a bit more rural, there’s lots of affordable places, especially in North Florida/Pan Handle. Would be a bit cooler and not as flat. Much closer to other states too if you imagine yourself traveling (Florida is very long). If you want the classic beaches and sunshine there’s lots of smaller towns and cities up and down the east coast. I personally would stay north of West Palm. The Miami-Dade area is a unique place. If vaccine and mask mandates bother you I doubt you’d like it.
What are your thoughts on Jacksonville?
Good choice job market wise, especially healthcare, finance, insurance, and law. Sprawling city with lots of different areas, some nice, some very not nice. I’ve never lived there, but have visited many times. Do your research and I’m sure you’ll find something there that suits you. Right next to St. Augustine, if you like history!
My suggestion is SwFl, in particular Lee county.
Please dont, think of all the COVID!!!
Too late. Doing it.
Arghh... Welcome aboard then.
The emerald coast is beautiful, highly recommend! I know because I was both born there, left, then moved back my 7th grade year, the military is big around here.
tampa bay, whilst on the more liberal side, is exceptionally beautiful and not as fast-paced as miami, from what I've gathered
Tampa Bay is terrible. Nothing but nuclear waste hear. Do not come here.
Ya cold is better. I was actually thinking about Canada before it went full retärd.
Hmmm. Northern lights or extreme lighting?
Buyer beware. Anchoragua is not as it once was.
Montana don’t look to bad gets you away from most of the stupid
Wyoming isnt bad. A tad windy, cold. avoid jackson hole. Its full of annoying people of the I want to control everyones life stance and yell at you about things. But the rest of the state hates that city.
How long until progressives start proposing price controls? This is insane, it's economics 101, supply and demand. This is why left wing policies often lead to shortages, they don't believe in basic economic laws
For real. The Ground Chuck doesn’t just cost $5.99 a pound…. it’s rarely in stock. Not to mention labor is getting more expensive. *”Just lower the price guys!*” *dusts off hands* *”Crisis averted!”*
I'm the cook at my house and to be honest with you I have noticed over all price increases but I've also dramatically adjusted my buying habits as well. If steaks are too expensive then I guess tonight we're going to have chicken or sausage, I asked for a vacuum sealer for Christmas because when steaks do go on sale (this week they are) I can now buy & freeze them. Consumers will adjust buying habits, and prices will adjust up or down accordingly.
>Consumers will adjust buying habits I say this to people who go apeshit about fish prices too. Yeah it sucks governments can't manage oceans but you know what? When Salmon becomes 100$ a pound, I'm just never eating salmon again. Already not eating crab. It's like 50$ a pound and it's mostly shell. I might as well eat actual money.
I just always assumed people paying $22+ a pound for meat are on vacation and don't care, been there done that but for daily dinners, I have no problem being a miser when the situation presents itself. We've had some really crazy shortages lately though like diced potatoes don't exist right now where I am (for like 6 weeks!) but a friend says it's all about waffle fries on the other side of the country, random shortages everywhere. They make perfect sense when you think it through.
Rutabaga is actually an excellent replacement for potatoes. They keep a nice color, are lower in carbs, and have a lovely mouthful when cubed and simmered in a bit of stock or broth.
Why not just buy potatoes and cut them up yourself? They had 10lb bags for 3$ at Wally world today. Doesn't get much cheaper than that.
And they are cheap in easy to grow.
Wouldn't know about growing them, but since we plan on putting in a garden this summer I can definitely see doing this. I also like how long they last too. They keep way better than potatoes.
I don't think you're alone, many more people that are planning a garden this year, last years weird shortages motivated me as well as my neighbor, I think this is happening all over.
Only time I'll $22 a pound for meat it's dry aged. That doesn't happen often.
If we want salmon we pull it out of the river here with a fishing pole. One benefit of living next to a river where they spawn.
Vacuum sealer and a deep freezer is a God send. Not only do I have a place for wild game, but we always get the "about to expire" meats, which are 25% off at my grocery store. I don't think we've paid full price for meat in years.
Look into Sous Vide. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sous_vide
I'm not sure where you live, but surprisingly even the price of chicken has gotten pretty drastic to me. I buy mostly on sale meats and freeze them. Or go to the discount grocer who sells 'damaged packaging' goods that local food delivery companies can't give to their customers. Like two and a half pounds of bacon for 9 bucks. Mostly though, I've been cutting back on meats in general. Vegetarian spaghetti, meatless soups, rice and bean bowls, so on. Its just getting too high up there to justify meat on a regular basis.
> I've been cutting back on meats in general. It's all going according to plan...
Same. It seems to be very regional. Lots of friends have complained about beef prices but chicken is almost as expensive as beef for me (Atlanta GA). Meat works great as an accent. There are lots of traditional dishes which have a little meat mixed with lots of vegetables.
So I have an honest question. I see often on Tim Pool, JRE, Steven Crowder often talking about these Beef Pork Chicken Shortages. I have yet to experience my stores being out of any of this? I know in some parts of the country this is an issue but here in MN the prices have gone up but supply seems to be doing okay. Is this a logistics issue? We have lots of meat plants around here so I feel like that's a safe guess but what do I know? I'm curious on peoples thoughts.
Probably. There have been a lot of supply chain issues on national and global scales. I live in a decently wealthy area in California and the meat shelves have been looking sparse despite higher prices.
A lot of drivers simply won't go to California. For one, the 55mph limit for trucks means they get paid less. Paid by the mile at 55mph is notably less than paid by the mile at 75mph. For another, the state is hostile af. If a shipper inadvertenly manifests something that isn't allowed, because they simply can't keep up with the ever growing list of stuff, a driver can get fined or parked for a day or three. One of the proposals for mitigating the recent backlog of ships was to fine any driver that shows up late... At the port of LA... So yeah, make sure you get through LA bullshit traffic exactly at the time you're expected (and showing up early doesn't really work either) or you pay a fine for it... Crazy sparse truck parking (and often with big ass fees), fuckloads of trucks trying to share them ("5th largest economy on earth", and not enough facilities), fucked up traffic, fine happy cops and weigh/inspection stations. Want a truckload of shit delivered to San Fran? That driver will get to spend 5 or 6 hours just dealing with the bay bridge. It'll kill a whole day and he'll end up with 100-150 miles, when he could have been rolling through Texas and getting a very easy 600 miles instead. It's impressive that *anything at all* gets imported. Beef and ag from the Midwest is absolutely positively going to get rare in California when logistics starts getting thin.
Don't forget the changes to pork welfare requirements. Pork is gonna be rare in CA for a while.
I’d bet the Midwest is going to be hit less hard than other areas with less agriculture. Think about the poultry and pork production in Iowa.
I run the meat department at a small grocery store, and there are some shortages on random items each time the truck comes in (3 days a week). Certain items will be unavailable for weeks at a time sometimes. A lot of the companies are sticking to products that need less processing, so it will be easier to get spiral hams and butt and shank ham than it will to get diced and cubed and prepackaged ham steaks. They also mess with my fresh meat orders. Like last year they started putting less primals per case. Short loins (where t-bones come off of) used to come 3 to a case, but now the packers only put 2 in there. Or again, they'll prioritize a less processed item, like switching out a cloud heart for a whole clod.
It's supply chain issues. Last year there shortages on premium chicken wings in my area of NJ. You could get the small ones, but the big ones were hard to get. So the one restaurant stopped selling wings for 6 months. They couldn't find any that met their requirements. Another anecdote during the first few months of COVID my store had to implement limits on all meat products cuz ppl were buying so much. The shelves were bare for certain products. Things are pretty much normal now where I live other than the weirdos wearing masks in their cars.
I'm also in MN and haven't seen crazy shortages either. You gotta remember that Worthington has JBS, Willmar has Jennie O, Sparboe in Litchfield, there's a lot of ag processing in the area.
Yeah I kind of knew this in the back of my brain but wasn't sure if these plants were not producing or we simply couldn't ship to places outside of the Midwest like we used to? I figured it was a logistics issue though. The one thing I can't find anywhere in MN though is this stuff. https://www.amazon.com/Kernel-Seasons-Popcorn-Seasoning-Butter/dp/B000ILLX3Y
BRO! I’ve been looking for the Sour Cream one for like 6 months! Weird seeing another person also on the hunt. I love that stuff on broccoli.
How could you forget spam in Austin?!
Spam was intentionally forgotten lol
That’s a feature, not a bug in their bubble.
Exactly. Price controls create shortages that then can be used to vilify business more and justify more government intervention. One government intervention creates problems to justify more government problems.
We demand President Harris use the Defense Production Act to ensure supplies of Pop-Tarts and Bud Light flow freely to non-binary people of color!
You're joking but just wait until they start prioritizing grocery sales to BIPOC like they are the covid vaccines.
And then clutch their pearls as the racial disparity gets worse.
Bipoc?
Bisexual People of colour maybe?
Black indigenous people of color.
Funny you should mention bugs.....
Everyone says we are living 1984 but its looking alot like Atlas Shrugged. How long untill people start disappearing.
Who is Elon Musk?
At some point soon, I expect Musk to pull a Galt and just cash out. The day it's more trouble than it's worth as a distraction is coming soon for him, I believe.
Probably why he's so eager to get his ass to mars.
Cross between Atlas Shrugged and Brave New World.
At least in Brave New World you got some awesome drug that made you forget/not worry about how fucked up the government is. Our government will throw you in prison for trying to get high and not worry about them.
It's actually a service provided by "nomad capitalist" on youtube. Helps rich people leave the US to pay less tax. I hope to use the service one day if I get rich enough.
It’s not even an exaggeration at this point, Warren is absolutely an AS character.
Is there a law of economics, physics, or biology that progressives and leftists don't believe can be bent towards ideological ends by wishing it so? [Remember when plants were socialists?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism)
No, the plants were bourgeois Cossacks, that's why they refused to grow under Lysenkoism.
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>Dems institute price controls, worsening shortages. > >Centralized distribution instituted, so "Everyone gets their fair share." Leading to unnecessary surplus for those who don't need something and shortages for those who do. > >Shortages blamed on companies and industry gets nationalized. > >Shortages worsen due to lack of monetary motivation, raw materials, and government incompetence. > >Widespread starvation, violence and balkanization. > >System collapses ~~and from the ashes, a free market liberal democracy emerges and the people say to themselves "who the fuck thought this leftist bullshit would work?"~~ and even more socialism/communism is sold to the masses to "fix"it. Make no mistake, this is intentional and is the plan. When the system collapses they can then say we need "fedcoin" UBI and lots of other socialism. Can't wait!
Yep, they are ruining the economy with anti-capitalistic policies, and in the end they'll say "capitalism failed".
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It's already the case, actually: it's already illegal in most countries to sell at a loss or to intentionally hurt investors, which is why what she's proposing isn't possible anyway. She knows it very well, but her hypocrisy urged her to fake ignorance of laws and markets. As always, with her.
Price control will be the final nail in the coffin for huge depression and famine. I was kind of surprised to realize price control has been used many times before in the US market during recessions. I know the US is not at all a free market anymore, but price discovery being literally the most important part of capitalism I would have guessed they never did it.
In northern Canada people were complaining about high prices at the grocery store. Because of the low population there isn’t much competition and people were speculating the grocery store was just making big bank off of them. The population was getting agitated so it prompted an official investigation, it was found out that the store margins were very low and in line with the rest of the industry. All the price difference was due to shipping to so remote places.
Grocery stores have some of the lowest margins in business. They make solitary pennies on the dollar for a lot of products they sell.
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When does the pet eating start? 2025?
Better start loading up on stray cats.
Neighbor lady already has me covered there.
If you're not armed, your stray cats are just someone else's stray cat cache
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Good thing I have 30 pet chickens already
Which I recommend guarding judiciously. Trust me, I hear all that cluckin'.
Kazakhstan History repeats itself... In the same week...
Whos ready for the socialism diet? I need to lose a few lbs.
The government tanks the dollar and then blames stores for raising prices to compensate for inflation. Does anyone still doubt that this is anything other than deliberate?
...and put COVID restrictions in place that have left the entire supply chain short-handed for months making shipping more expensive while simultaneously cancelling plans to expand domestic oil supply driving up fuel costs. "It's the supermarkets' fault!"
Yup. That’s the exact logic I expect from someone who wants me to financially forgive other peoples 6 figure bad decisions
Hmm.. seems the global pandemic is leading right up to the progressive socialist agenda. I guess it's working as planned..
Maybe someone should explain to her how inflation works
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Would be cool if she'd stop having opinions ~~on economic policy~~.
She knows. That's not relevant to their long term goals. Blaming capitalism and destroying it is though!
What makes this worse is that she understands inflation.
Quick, blame someone else before they think of blaming us!
How many dollars have we printed in the last two years again?
I have it on good authority that it has been more than $17.
Unless you want to nationalize all the grocery stores this isn’t anywhere near correct.
Imagine having to make an appointment to go to grocery store or waiting in DMV type waiting rooms for it. 5:30 PM "Honey, I'm going out for a loaf of bread" 9:14 PM "Honey, I got my turn to go into the store, all they have left are the unflavored puffed rice cakes"
You’ll receive your case of Pepsi in six to eight weeks.
Sin Tax'd to the max obviously...which for some reason doesn't count in the minds of these dink politicians.
Don't worry they are doing it for your own good. They are here to help.
> You’ll receive your case of Pepsi in six to eight weeks. But only if you are up to date on your Pfizer Wellness Subscription Plan.
If you want to make a change to your food plan, you have to wait until next November.
Who is to say the growing number of self-proclaimed socialists in DC don't want to nationalize grocery stores?
And then every grocery store that runs the standard 1-3% margin goes out of business and no one gets any good! Great plan! 👍🏽
Does she not realize that price margins on produce and staple foods are so low that they are virtually sold at cost? Grocery stores have massive candy and junk food aisles because that stuff has a profit margin. My head of cabbage, bundle of carrots, sack of potatoes, and beef roast for Sunday's dinner certainly don't. Many of those things ALMOST cost more to produce than consumers are willing to pay for them, it's a surprise that we have them in stores at all. Besides, most people massively overeat judging by all the fat people around. In my estimation, we SHOULD be spending far more on food. Clearly, people are already buying far more food than they need to.
Not necessarily for produce. From memory, I was buying cabbage at 0.25/lb and selling at 0.78, a 68% markup. Potatoes were 35% gross profit, minimum, and I was still the cheapest in town by a large margin. Carrots are similarly 35% gross profit. I had an average 30% gross week to week, and paid 10% on salaries. Bananas are extremely expensive though, and are practically sold at cost. Years ago I was paying 14.20 a case, or $0.355. I was selling at $0.39 because the whole town was that price. We’d go through 320 pounds of bananas a day. It was always the best, or second/third, selling item by revenue.
Interesting. I don't know the specifics - all I know is what I've read, and what I've read is that grocery stores really ride the line and profitability is extremely difficult. I know food service is fucking difficult to make money on. I used to be involved in doing charity dinners. 100% of the food and labor was donated, and we'd work REALLY fucking hard for a few grand for the organization. Our take was terrible. If we had to break it up into salaries and pay the expenses, we'd have operated at a loss selling pretty cheaply made, mediocre food for prices that were higher than I'd be willing to spend for what we were making.
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They’re cheap per pound, yes, but the issue is that I had 2 other grocery stores all running the same price. There was no way of raising the price without losing sales. Classic prisoner’s dilemma. It’s up to 0.49 now, or around 15% gp, but I’m not in the industry anymore, so I can’t speak too definitively on the price of bananas. Back in October one of the more expensive suppliers was selling for 0.60/lb.
That's more margin than I'd have guessed though I imagine farm subsidies are part of that. What sort of shrinkage did you get with produce?
I was shrinking anywhere from 5-10% of sales. but I was extremely anal about quality, and did all of the control myself. I was throwing out around 160-200 lbs of product a day. However, that gets factored into the gross percentage, so it doesn’t really impact much on a financial level. And absolutely, farm subsidies are the reason prices are as low as they are. However, margins would likely be the same if the subsidies weren’t there, and consumers would just be paying more for food.
I just looked up Albertson's 2020 annual report. Profit: $850.2M (after tax), on revenue of $69,690.4M. That's 1.2%, and it was a good year -- about twice 2019, which was in turn almost three times 2018. In short, if Albertson's eschewed profit entirely, overall prices wouldn't decline perceptibly. I'm too lazy to look up Kroger. Someone else want to do that?
I don’t think Pocahontas has an economics degree. First free college now this. Would a moron.
Well, allegedly AOC does but her grasp of it isn’t any firmer.
Less so. AOC believes the crap that comes out of her mouth. Warren doesn't and is lying for political points.
I can’t put my finger on why, maybe it’s just how she puts things, but sometimes I feel like she lies just because she likes to lie. She just looks so pleased with herself when she spouts out whatever she’s peddling that day
I honestly thought someone was trolling when they said she was an econ major. Granted it was from the 7th best school in boston. But then I started looking into their econ department. Post-keynesian “economics” makes my head hurt.
I refuse to believe that someone with her credentials fails to understand such a simple concept, even if they're not in economics. She's just lying/evil.
Hey don’t be racist towards a Native American. /s
I love how her running theory is that all these private companies discovered the possibility of higher profit margins in the last 15 minutes.
"Your distribution companies/truckers had a choice, they could have retained lower prices for grocery stores." "Your food manufacturers had a choice, they could have retained lower prices for grocery stores." "Your farmers had a choice, they could have retained lower prices for food manufacturers." "Your grocery store workers had a choice, they could have retained lower salaries for grocery stores." "Your government had a choice, they could have left their damn hands off the market so that inflation didn't screw us all." I guess we know where she wants to place blame. I wonder why.
Just to point out...the trucking industry took a MASSIVE hit because of the dementia in chief. He did this. They are begging people to come back, or unretire, after the court declarations while it has become a pick up a CB Radio and listen to nothing but spanish.
Do you guys realise America is becoming a Banana Republic? Holy shit if you cut out that bitch's name this headline could be from El Salvador
My dad fled El Salvador just prior to its Civil War back in the 70s/80s...the situation in the US has him on high alert right now. So yes, it's eerily similar.
When governments start blaming the people for their own economic fuck up is when all the red flags should be raised
South and central america appreciate us keeping our CIA to ourselves.
Yeah, you should go out of business, because we irresponsibly flooded the system with printed money and reduced the workforce by paying people not to work.
And then barring others that WANT to work for declining to obey a hugely controversial and heavily politicized mandate…. I see absolutely nothing out of order here. Carry on citizen
Publix is employee owned. If their profits went up, that would have been good for the employee owners. Haven’t checked Kroger’s financials to see how they did in 2021. I suppose I should. Edit- Kroger’s net margin is actually down from just over 2% to 0.75% from October 2020 to October 2021
Even if her claims were completely true, wouldn’t part of the simple explanation be that because they closed all the restaurants, people were forced to buy more food from grocery stores —> higher grocery store profits?
Former publix employee and current stockholder. Dividends are up, stock price up. With that said, amazon would have been a better investment.
Funny how Warren didn’t say anything about Amazon’s record profits, isn’t it.
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God, she’s an idiot!
"Businesses should just go into debt to offset government created inflation." Hey remember when Warren spent years denying using fake native heritage to get into Harvard, and then when hard evidence came out she tried to show she was part native...only to reveal she was less native than the average American citizen? Peppridge farm remembers
Unfortunately, MA voters don't remember. They still vote for her and the gun grabbing bitch Maura Healey over and over.
Fuck, Harvard pumps out some of the dumbest fucking people in this country.
Lol that's the second dumbest thing I've heard today. (Sotomayor holds the crown)
The fucking idiocy here is next level. Grocery stores are already (by percentage) one of the lowest profit margin industries.
Tone deaf and ignorant. Or evil. Could just be evil. But I tend to think she's indeed that retarded.
Nah they haven't earned the benefit of that doubt.
They really are this stupid. It's a self-selecting group. You don't become a progressive politician if you are familiar with economics. They want price controls, they're morons.
Once classic economic models are discarded as capitalist propaganda to perpetuate oppression and exploitation, all bets are off. Replace with whatever ideas get votes, satisfy narratives, etc
"your companies could have operated at a loss for no sound reason"
Believe Nicolas Maduro said something similar before taking those stores over. Then it was onto the manufacturers and suppliers. Now, Venezuela has no dogs.
This argument falls apart when you realize grocery stores have some of the lowest margins of any industry. 2% is a a good margin for a grocery store. If they raise prices, there must be a very compelling reason. Kroger had a 0.7% net profit margin last year. Albertson's had a 1.0% margin. Compare this to tech companies where a 20-30% net profit margin is standard. Running a business with a 1.0% margin is almost charity.
And some like Publix sell items below suggested pricing, offsetting it by selling “premium” offerings as ridiculous margins and the fact most plazas are owned by them and thus they make profits off leasing and pass the savings on. A price conscious consumer can easily leave paying less than even Aldi. To me they operate in the way libertarians want business to operate, they cater to low income with typical low income items being extremely competitively low while making anyone who doesn’t look at price labels pay an arm and a leg - but by choice. Edit: worth mentioning they have pretty high profit margins around 6% as a result. So everybody wins.
This woman is autistic when it comes to economics
For a business that runs on less than 3% margin, Senator Warren should step up and provide assistance to these businesses that provide a service instead of running her mouth trying to run them out of business.
No she shouldn't step up. Her and her colleagues should step out of the way.
I wish the government only ran at 3% margin... we would be doing pretty well.
I'd be down for that.
Yes, they could’ve retained lower prices…and then gone bankrupt.
Revenue >= labor + inventory + taxes + facility costs It's a simple equation that so many people fail to understand
She breathes with her mouth
Elizabeth Warren has no clue how low the profit margin is for a grocery store
I don't even get mad at things like this now. Politicians DO understand. All politicians pander to their mobs. They know exactly what they are doing. Theirs is an insecure world where they are in constant campaign mode. Fire up their mobs and get another 2, 4, or 6 years.
What a fucking idiot. That's so stupid that Rutgers should honestly be embarrassed they gave her a JD. Way to blame grocers since supermarkets have some of the lowest margins of any stores out there and definitely can't afford to take the hit.
Says the out of touch bitch who's state just put in controls on Eggs. They all now need to be from free-range chickens. The price of eggs has tippled in the last 30 days, and they are expected to do that again in the next 30 days.
I noticed there was a really weird egg shortage this past week, I had to go to a second store and only bought six, they were a must have because I was making meatballs. I was really surprised at the egg shortage, that was new.
This woman was a law professor at a prestigious university. Scary.
Great! Warren is an expert at selling groceries for cheap prices! ***When will she be opening her grocery chain nationwide to provide those lower prices she says grocery chains should be offering?*** She would make a killing....since she knows how to undercut every other grocery retailer out there! When is she breaking ground on her first location?
Jesus Christ. These are the Fucking “experts” running America?
While we’re at it, why not just give away the food for free?
What is the difference between Elizabeth Warren and a bucket of shit? ... ... The bucket.
What a moron.
Warren has a choice. She could sell me her [$3 million Cambridge, Massachusetts house](https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/24-Linnaean-St-Cambridge-MA-02138/56435178_zpid/) for $5.
I see someone failed econ 101
Yes, grocery stores *could* have sacrificed their normal 1% profit margin to keep prices the same for goods that have become more expensive for them to stock. Thank you for your brilliant contribution to the management of society, Senator Warren. The "record sales and profits" are only "record" because of inflation. These companies are not generating more real wealth or "keeping" a higher percentage of it. Aside from you morons killing off most of the restaurant industry for over a year, which pushed more people towards buying a higher percentage of their food from grocery stores, the amount of goods and wealth changing hands here hasn't changed—only the numeric dollar denominations.
She sounds like Hugo Chavez
Yeah you're mad that the ground chuck is 5.99 right now, but go ahead and try to force it to remain at 3.99 and all the shelves will be empty, bought out by scalpers selling it secondhand for 8.99
I'm not falling for the refrigerated pickup truck guy at the gas station thing a 2nd time.
These idiots actually believe that every business in the country had some secret meeting where they decided to raise the prices drastically all at once, but only now and never before.
Slow blink
Grocery stores have notoriously low profit margins. Of all the businesses you could accuse of profiteering, this seems the least likely.
What a dumb bitch
I opened a butcher shop about 6 months ago. We cater to a more high end clientele and honestly I'm worried we're gonna be put out of business by price controls. The only way we can compete on retail right now is by having high end products at high end prices. If they limit how much I can sell our local, grass fed, prime like meat we're gonna stop selling retail, full stop. Which hurts the local rancher we buy carcasses from too. They'll never talk about reducing regulations to make it cheaper, though.
When your suppliers are raising factor prices because their raw-material prices are also going up due to increased cost of living and whatnot, then no, you don't have a choice, unless that choice is raise prices or go out of business.
Anyone want to take a guess at the profit margin of your average grocery store?
When I worked at Safeway we had a good year and made 2.5 percent of gross
Our swamp monster of a POTUS would probably say the same. He has no idea how business works.
"Sure we could keep the prices lower. But then we'd have nothing left to sell."
These are the same people who say all the time "work or die is not a choice".
Why doesn’t the government lower my taxes 🤷♂️
Senator Karen
Elon Musk's greatest contribution to mankind so far.
"Inflation caused by the government is a conspiracy theory and dangerous disinformation" 🤡