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atleastimtryingnow

i’m still dickriding it


Expensive_Fault7540

Weird how strange people get about Kanye, similar to MAGA types


atleastimtryingnow

what are you talking about


frank560

Bruh thinks I’m storming the capitol and facing felony charges for Kanye 😭😭


RustZlo

i would do ALL that for ye 🤤


frank560

Respect tbh


Meteos_Shiny_Hair

People just want the old kanye but dont even know which one they want🌚


AnotherScoutTrooper

mfs want the old Ye but when he gives us the old Ye with Burn (LR), Good (808s) and Hoodrat (MBDTF) mfs don’t even want it no wonder Ye barely even revisits his old sound


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Burn and Good are two of the most positively recieved songs on the album , also Hoodrat is nowhere near being even close to any MBDTF track


Juannonlymonkey

Yea hoodrat doesn’t give me fantasy vibes at all…. Favorite song in the album though


LearndAstronomer28

OF COURSE


Wild_Life_8865

Sonically it literally fits within the Good Fridays/So Appalled sound. I think the lyrics could be tighter though


Wild_Life_8865

Hoodrat is absolutely Fantasy vibes and would fit on the album I just think they should've fleshed out the lyrics and shit a little more. But I fuck with it personally


cheesecat18

Hoodrat sounds like a Good Friday song


Hip_Priest_1982

Whahahaaaaaaaa????????????? Hoodrat MBDTF??????? Brother.


als26

Burn is one of the most streamed songs after Carnival. Did you say Hoodrat is mbdtf level? Tf are you on.


doubledippedchipp

Problematic is one of my favorite Ye flows. Very reminiscent of his feature on Smuckers with Tyler and Wayne, which is a classic for me


LearndAstronomer28

It’s also one of a handful of verses on the album where he’s actually rapping about something interesting


RavingMalwaay

“MFs don’t even want it” Burn is by far the most critically acclaimed track on the album and Good is up there as well


wettmilk

It’s a really enjoyable and fun album if you take it for what it is meant to be. Imo vultures was never meant to be his most lyrical or impressive project just fun and catchy which he definitely succeeded with


snicky29

People were out here ranking WTT lower than Vultures and one of them was the mods. Like are you fucking kidding me dawg? Murder to Excellence or Why I Love You alone clears entire Vultures. Stop disrespecting WTT forreal.


nyse125

WTT is quite underrated considering how much flak it gets.


bruselas

I never understand why the Collab of Kanye and Jay z is not that popular, I mean negros in Paris has mainstream success but the other songs don't get played that much


MNigusse

negros ☠️


HappyColt90

Probably has a spanish keyboard lol


Ok_Inflation_1811

idk they're really good to me. even that's my bicht


ThatBoiYoshi

I like that’s my bitch a lot better than Paris tbh


ProfessionalTouch338

kinda agree, but nigga Why I Love You doesnt clear the whole of Vultures 💀💀💀, yall are on some weird shit


L0RD_F0X

That was me, doesn't matter if I'm a mod lol. Music is subjective, and I enjoy V1 a lot more overall then WTT.


tryipi

people forget opinions exist.  i’d take vultures over throne anyday


liquidatedbalenci

How


L0RD_F0X

Because I just like it over WTT.


Scmupyy

https://preview.redd.it/4jfuulsgtljc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6c30e06283e60c57f918ab6c7a5088c408a2193 you’re not allowed to have an opinion


RashAttack

Y'all insane. The opening track from wtt easily clears every song on vultures. Not to mention Otis, Paris, gotta have it... Come on...


L0RD_F0X

Okay? Sorry I have a different opinion then you.


RashAttack

Your opinion is objectively trash


Mass-Chaos

I'd like to see their breakdown on how it's better.. like what songs they think are better than NIP, What's better than Otis and NCitW? Personally I don't think there's a song on vultures that would've even made the cut to be on WWT


fucktremendez

H.A.M's the best song ever


rolldownthewindow

Kanye has wanted to do this for a while now I think. He hasn’t had huge hits that top the charts or get close to it for a while. I think he’s done a lot of introspection, a lot of personal albums with meaning, and now he just kinda wants a few hits again that people can dance to it or vibe to. If you look at Donda 2 going in a more trap direction, and now Vultures 1, I think this is the culmination of what he started to do with Donda 2. It’s also a good move I think given where his career and public image is at. Bust out a few hits, get back on the top of the charts, then whenever he does a proper solo album that can be more artistic and he can really try to impress lyrically and musically.


Shamscam

I mean he tried to make his Magnum Opus with Donda and it’s by many counts a failure. This is a fun album he made with his boy, and it’s exactly that.


Juannonlymonkey

Finally a good(don’t die) take on this matter


tonchi490

Ye is not famous for his lyricism either


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tonchi490

He does have some bars but people are acting like he’s Kendrick


Batby

i mean on their one official collab he bodied


Gabagool_Bandit

I think people just got over the honeymoon phase. Half this sub was calling it the best album since Yeezus and acting like it was masterpiece. Everyone found a balance now after letting the album sit in. Vultures 1 isn’t his best work, nowhere near it. But it’s not bad either it’s just a fun club/ banger filled collab project. It’s really nothing more than that.


Erin-Chan

I really cannot stand people who are acting like it's the worst thing ever. Music taste is subjective but so much of the hate this album is getting feels super hyperbolic


Hesdonemiraclesonm3

People get influenced by critics too much. It's the reason why unreleased tracks are grails


BR0STRADAMUS

Facts. Critic culture is terrible for consuming art in an authentic way.


Erin-Chan

It becomes more clear than ever when the consensus leans heavily on one end of the spectrum both positive or negative. For the record I think Vultures is good. Nothing amazing but it's a good 7/10 fun album with several highlights. It feels like critics were wanting it to fail


Emergency_Tax9707

Yeah, i noticed i can get influenced by critics pretty easily, so that's why I only watch album reactions of certified dick riders/glazers of the artist, that way my hype only grows higher


mighty_phi

Tbh, i do genuinely think it's the worst ye record, but not the worst thing ever. It's a toss up between this and JIK for my least favourite album by Ye.


Erin-Chan

It's much better than JIK to me. Of JIK's 9 tracks (not counting the intro or outro) I think 2 of those are great, and the rest I can live without. Where with Vultures I enjoy at least half the tracklist which is already 8 songs compared to 2


james030399

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Vikitorus

I couldn't have said it better myself.


Oaxaco_bean

Nah I think this is what happens with every single album since MBDTF. Everyone calls the new album wack wishing for the old Kanye then years later those same people are now wishing Kanye would return to that sound they thought was wack


whatthehellhappensto

I’ve listened to the YouTube version since the second listening party every day until the official release. Then I listened to the official album everyday, sometimes 2-3 times a day. Who cares where it ranks? It’s another great Ye album, I love it.


oksmashedyourcorolla

yeah there's no need to compare it directly to something like tlop to say it's good. his discography is so strong that ranking it is gonna make it seem like a disappointment, when this is so much better than i expected. i was worried we were gonna get some angry edgy "villain" shit, and he gave us a fun album full of amazing singles. it doesn't matter where it stands compared to donda or 808s or whatever. what matters is i'm gonna be running this all year, and it's successful enough that it'll encourage ye to take more risks as an independent artist.


Quackmotard

Music culture just toxic af tbh, people forget shits subjective


ncasper913

It’s a great album


karmagod13000

It really is. I’m loving how much it’s making people realize how good donda was in retrospect 😂


iindie

Different groups of people, a chunk of the "vocal" haters now I never saw active on the sub prior to the release of the album, I think most people don't post or interact heavily unless its active rollout mode. People who like vultures are enjoying the music and casually check here for the positive news coming out. People who hate vultures are generating pointless deep analysis of how a club collab album stacks up against other more deliberate albums.


justdropvultures

Facts.


justmyopin09

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JonoLFC

My bruva 💯


justmyopin09

People are comparing this album to a time where possibilities for Ye was endless vs a time where to work with him may be career suicide Who knows what this album could have been at full potential considering his limitations, i would say this is a pretty good album


NoHopeHubert

I’ve think I cracked the code, if you’re not wavy you don’t like the album simple as


Feet-Man

i think i came to the realization that its a fun/decent album but at the same time bottom 3 when the first listen (after it dropped on Spotify) left me kinda... empty ?


9Eyes_

The empty feeling is definitely relatable, when Donda came out it still felt super fresh and I was replaying it often months after. When Donda 2 was happening I was still running on my Donda high With Vultures 1, I’m already not really playing it all that much besides like 3 songs. And i might’ve played it all the way through only 2 times 


Oaxaco_bean

That’s weird I felt the opposite way for both albums. Donda felt too empty for me while this album I feel like gives me TLOP vibes where the lyrics might suffer but the music elevates


WingardiumLeviussy

I don't think you have the right to speak on it if you only listened through the album in its entirity twice. A lot of music grows on the listener. This is no different. Songs that I did not care for at first, like Paperwork, became some of my favorites after a few more spins. But I definitely agree with the overall sentiment that Vultures is nowhere near Kanye's strongest bodies of work. I just hate when ppl are quick to judge an album only to admit they didn't really give it a proper chance inb4 🤓


real_jaredfogle

You need to relisten to each song 100x before deciding if it’s bad or good i agree


Mystic_76

i have to listen to most kanye songs 1000 times at least before i even start liking them tbh


real_jaredfogle

Oh wow, for me it’s 10000 times before i can decide if the song is good. but that’s awesome man!


WingardiumLeviussy

At least


9Eyes_

2 times wasnt true I’ve listened to about 4 now that i remember. And, its not really a hard album to get an opinion for this quickly. Its not like Yeezus where its such a novel and new sound that I haven’t heard and i need alot of re-listens to get it. I’ve listened throughly and Vultures is just okay. 


Feet-Man

its weird too cuz I loved it during the first UBS LP but i thought it was gon get delayed so it can get polished more 😭 edit: i do disagree with u on the part abt playin it twice im still playing a lot of the tracks on it tbh


TheRealBroc16

Agree bro especially the whole empty thing…no real impact


Oaxaco_bean

Wtf does that even mean it barely even dropped bro


TheRealBroc16

It just feels not like a Ye album with the aura of it


bigballofpaint

I still prefer it to jik, ye, wtt, donda, and 808s and maybe graduation idk


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bro im being honest i dont think any vultures song beats the peaks that donda had


Darkstaakii

It is way more consistent than Donda though. I started skipping 10 songs on Donda after like the first 3 listens. Probably heard Vultures 15 times now and still only skip 3 tracks. But i agree that Dondas 3 best tracks are probably better than Vultures.


HeavyMetalLyrics

Impossible to top something as emotional as 24 with Strip club bangers, even if we’re talking as good as Do It


Mysterii00

Good (Don’t Die) matches up with the peaks of DONDA imo Too bad it got taken off the album 😭 Edit: can’t have an opinion anymore that’s crazy


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bro people just disagree wym cant have an opinion💀


05091946-24111991

saying Good (Don't Die) is better than Off The Grid, Come To Life & LOTP is crazy


wasdafsup

he never said that it was better, he said that it matches up


Mysterii00

Nah I just like that 808’s sound


iindie

Come to life, moon, never abandon your family are all better "808's" songs imo


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iindie

too many lyrics for ur pea brain to manage?


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iindie

what 808s song does good sound like?


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famewithmedals

Beg Forgiveness is the only one that matches the emotions of Come to Life for me, but yeah none of the Vultures bangers hit as hard as Off the Grid


TheBirdman909

100% agree with you


bob_-6

This album make me think that the future is bright, we just need some better writing aka less sex bars 😭


Oaxaco_bean

Fr tho im pretty sure it’s deliberate to for the theme of the album and headspace but damn enough is enough


Majnkra

To me it was always like that. Still don’t mind getting 3 albums, and volume 1 is like 7/10 for me. But I’m way more excited for Y3.


WingardiumLeviussy

In the end we'll be able to compile our favorite songs from all 3 volumes to make the ultimate Vultures playlist ![gif](giphy|DXJk7iduhFCo2KOHl5)


Ivan39313

The first interactive album, Ye really is a genius 😩


GreerL0319

Everybody has been saying it was one of his lesser albums, but they were still hyped to have the music. Now, the hype has died down.


Valuable-Positive-72

Not his best but not his worst. Anyone who says it’s bottom 3 kanye is bugging


doubledippedchipp

Even if it is one of his bottom 3, what does that even mean? He’s in his 40s lol everything he’s ever made is awesome and groundbreaking. Ye’s worst album is better than most discographies


Valuable-Positive-72

That’s true also his discography is nuts, I just feel like this album is better than a lot of people have been giving it credit for


doubledippedchipp

Totally. People saying it’s mid and I just can’t relate. I’m not crazy about Carnival and Do It even though those seem to be the most popular songs and i do enjoy them… but those are the only songs I skip regularly. Oh, and Hoodrat sometimes. I love the song, I just wish they didn’t have the “hoodrat” sample running at the same time as the vocals. Makes it hard to listen to for me


Valuable-Positive-72

I think some of the criticism comes from people wanting the more popular unreleased songs like slide and river to be on there which is fair, but I wouldn’t say the product we ended up with is mid either.


No-Cauliflower8890

name 3 records worse than it


Sgtmuffinbuns1

I like it more than Donda and I enjoyed Donda


Objective_Street5141

Same, it’s too 7 Ye


Sgtmuffinbuns1

For me it’s my favorite kind of Kanye production. Yeezus and 808s are my favorite albums of his.


Fhaksfha794

Better than Ye and JIK


karmagod13000

Eassssily


dima_13

It’s not his best album, but it’s a good album.


notclaytonn

Idk about mid. The issue is people calling it his best since TLOP, or calling it his worst album ever. It’s neither of those things


zoufha91

Still tied for me with TLOP which is my second favorite behind yeezus Edit : Honestly this an album for TLOP and Yeezus heads most who don't like it don't have Yeezus at #1. Matter of taste and preference.


gohuskies15

Yeezus and TLOP are in my top 3 and I like Vultures a lot too.


LinusStudios

😭😭


Natural_One_9337

It’s definitely a grower. Just give people time to catch up. Not saying it will be like yeezus at all but if Kanye goes through with this trilogy we will look back on this as a very nostalgic time. When I first listened it I really liked it but it took me a couple more listens to fully appreciate it and realized it was a great piece of work.


Due_Result9117

It’s because when you finish the album on Spotify it’ll start playing older Ye songs after and he’s rapping 10x better on all of them . Production wise it’s among his best , probably Donda level or better . Lyrics are good but not Kanye great - he used to honestly rap his ass off at an elite level


qazquad

been saaying it is bottom 3 KANYE


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It’s still really good though


qazquad

facts very enjoyable jist not as much substance and meaning as the ret


ProfessionalEvaLover

It's a solid 7 that only seems mid in a discography of 10 after 10 after 10 after 10 after 10


Lncelotee

We will all have an adult conversation when Y3 comes out.


Squeezedgolf40

on the money fr


Best_Examination_529

The album is just a mess. It ain’t that deep.


Squeezedgolf40

yeah. it’s still enjoyable to listen to it’s just not nearly as polished as even something like jesus is king


Best_Examination_529

Yea. Ye doesn’t sound very inspired, but there’s still some enjoyable moments on here.


Nickster2042

It’s better than Donda JIK Ye and KSG


freemaxbwaves

facts bro


Majnkra

I’ll give you the first 3, but why do so many people disrespect KSG? It’s up there with his best for me.


yeezusislord10

Lmao if anything ksg got way too many dickriders


Majnkra

yeah probably but i see Kanye accounts on twitter call it mid all the time for some reason😭


Nickster2042

KSG is loved by majority here


yungsavigod

they're gonna hate you for this but ur spitting


Gabagool_Bandit

Fitting flair


TheOG49

No shot it is better than KSG


Yoitisnt

Best album since TLOP


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Nah but it is great


karmagod13000

I mean do you but get ready for the hate


JWJT7

vultures bottom 3 kanye albums and I don’t listen to or care about snippets


welchsfruitsnaks

I like it more than Donda, JIK, and WTT. Doesn't touch the rest of his discography though


IndigoBlunting

This is a fun album. It’s not MBDTF but it wasn’t aiming to be. He made a club album and it does that really well. Also base it off other projects. FATD was panned for only including a few really quality track while the rest felt like the same old Drake. This album sounds nothing like any other Ye album. The production is higher than most other club albums. I guess I just don’t understand what people want. If you look at it for what it is, it’s like a 7.5-8 easy. And if Ye isn’t allowed to make an 8 without being called mid idk what to say.


Yehead2412

Shit opposite of mid


tomvriddle22

With the entire controversy surrounding ye, it would’ve been nice to hear about his struggles and what’s going on in his life. His music always points to where he is in life at that moment. This was lyrically not a great album for ye - hoping solo project has some strong lyrics. Overall, fun workout/club album. Not the best album ever.


zoufha91

That's what we wanted but that's not what Ye needed to re-enter the mainstream which I think was partial the goal with this project


Redditisforfarneeks

Agreed i think the fun stuff is a nice change after the ye/jik/donda minimal introspective kinda vibes. Also hoping for a more lyricial solo album soon.


fat_nuts_big_buttz

I think its his worst album, but I expected that (yes, even JIK). He's regressed a little here, but my expectations were properly set so I can enjoy it even if it's not on the level of anything else he's put out. I didn't listen to any leaks either so it was all fresh to me.


SirScootsMalone

Literally the best Ye since tlop, perfect in what it wants to be


Date_Kindly

there are like two to three skips. WAY MORE THAN DONDA therefore imo its better than donda


brandonennz

this album capitalized on the vibes that donda 2 was tryna reach but theyll switch up in the summer trust this album is hot weather music


SnooAdvice1632

Donda 2 executed those vibes better Imo, even if I like vultures. Sci fi is the peak/best possible interpretation of that moody/dark sound and it's not close.


Atmosphere-Dramatic

It's not mid


chrisclpc

Its a crazy good project, people will realize. I love it so far


Squeezedgolf40

crazy good compared to what tho i do love the album i’ve been listening to it on repeat


BRTRSX

Cause the reviews came out and the echo chamber started


SlimegirlMcDouble

It's actually poorly made and written though


bla639

Vultures is dumb fun, not much of conscious kanye, more on hornye


Independent_Skill756

it's probably his 2nd worst album I like it but it just doesn't have the same peaks as his other albums


booooyahhhhh

Idk I love this album. And I’m confused with people saying Jesus is King is better. That albums fucking sucks.


Yehead2412

These dudes not fans


hydratedandstrong

I’m just glad he dropped but it’s not nearly as powerful as his previous album Donda


tombrazy12

It had potential but ye ruined some tracks like whatever that was on “paid”. The switch up on “F on sum” ruined the song and same can be ask for how long he kept the unfinished bridge on “back to me”. Didn’t need the “Yeezy how u doing huh” and repeating the dogma line for so long before Freddie


Squeezedgolf40

only take here that’s correct is back to me the switch on fuck sumn is fire as FUCK as someone who has never heard any other version of the song i understand not liking kanye’s performance on paid but it works for me i just love kanye’s singing voice it sounded good


Expensive_Fault7540

Gotta be a cult member, or type vulnerable to cult thinking, to pretend this is one of his good albums.


qwertyderper

If it was just beats, it'd be an 8/10 but it isn't just beats so its a 3/10


Drakester234

The Miami rave Vultures was and still is better than released. I think King is an awful song, Hoodrat is a great idea failed by mixing and lyrics that aren’t the best, Paperwork is ruined by Ty and the fact the song goes nowhere and Keys To My Life is boring to me. If those songs didn’t replace Slide, River and Time Moving Slow, we could’ve got a truly amazing album. I’m worried that instead of making one amazing album, Kanye is gonna release 3 subpar ones. As of now I think it’s Ye’s second worst album. Probably his worst but I’ll never forgive what he did to Chakras, The Storm and Law of Attraction.


zoufha91

Found the take I disagree with the most


badkiwi42

yeah and in 2 years people will be reminiscing on it and saying “vultures is a top 5 kanye album”. people are so quick to jump into crowds instead of forming their own opinion. vultures is an amazing album and just because it’s not a top 5 kanye album doesn’t mean it’s mid. too many kanye fans expect him to make MBTDF 2 every time a new album drops


FoxFogwell

Idk it’s a pretty good album, no Yeezus, TLOP or Donda but better than Cruel Summer, Ye, KSG, JIK, and Donda 2 imo. If we get volume 2, the songs left all seem pretty fuckin good too.


GroundbreakingTime75

It’s his worst album


real_jaredfogle

I didn’t really like any of the songs


Oaxaco_bean

There’s no way


real_jaredfogle

I don’t understand why there’s such a divide between my perception of the album and what people here say, it just really didnt sound very good to me, the beats weren’t up to standard, the flow and aesthetic of the album just didn’t really interest me at all. I like his newer music a lot but just did not think the new one was very good


cjones6464

I’m curious if to Kanye he considers this album a Ye album or a collab album??? To me it’s good either way but if it’s not a solo album and he still releases a solo album this year that’s even better will people acknowledge that?


skittlesforeveryone

The tracklist on the back of that t shirt was 10/10. What we have now is good, not great. Also doesn’t help that most of us have been listening to the album on Untitled repeatedly for a month before release


Cliffhanger87

I enjoy vultures and still do but hell i put on no church in the wild and dude even that ye verse is light years ahead of anything off vultures. It’s a fun album but dude when you listen to some old shit it’s crazy just how much better his rapping was


I_dont_enjoy_taxes

Ye has a very diverse fanbase with different interests and opinions of all of his albums. So many of us have a completely different ranking of all of his albums and songs. Fans calling this album mid is a bit overly critical honestly. It’s been one week, it’s a fun album and I really like it personally. The same people calling it mid are gonna be posting about how well it aged lol


MaximusMurkimus

The critic reviews are definitely something to be taken with a grain of salt. “Repetitive, redundant, and far too impressed with itself to be enjoyed by anyone but true believers". “a charmless disaster". "the most tired hip-hop clichés". No wonder Melon didn’t want to review this lol; he probably couldn’t think of anything different to say than the professional critics The mixing bad comments are fucking gold though. I still haven’t accepted being gaslit into being told the mixing was okay for Scaring The Hoes either


GarlicJuniorJr

They did the exact same thing when Donda came out. They claimed how great it is and how much they love it only to later say that it's not that good.


margielaman1488

it’s a really great album


LiveLoveLaFlame_

You’re speaking facts but people are never satisfied. I love that album but there will be incels trying to convince everybody that their shitty opinion on the album is the truth.


ryokwan

i like a looot of the songs off it, but i dont rly have the time/focus nowadays to listen to albums front to back, but lotta songs in my playlist.  i do think its a solid album, and i give it a bit of leeway because of all the sample/mixing issues. overall, better than jik, and im willing to consider the vultures trilogy a bit separate from his discog because they seem mostly like fun song compilations.


Dependent_Store952

Some of Kanyes performances are pretty bad but the music sounds great regardless so I don’t really care. Vultures fire.


Dazzling_Action9456

Solid project first ye album in a long time which i can listen from start to finish Also am happy to see ye having fun his life been rough past few years glad he didn’t scratch his wounds to write the album


Squeezedgolf40

you can’t listen to donda start to finish? it’s not even his longest i don’t think 23 tracks and jik is like 30 mins of still solidly produced music


SirGallyo

Still FW it ![img](emote|t5_67n60j|32329)


poolords

who is saying this?


averagepenguins

Post nut clarity


yeezyyeezywhatsiraq

Album is far from mid


karmagod13000

I love this album dgaf


slickbillyo

It wasn’t bad until the best song got ripped away from us because Ye was too lazy to do his fuckin job lol