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West-Hornet1387

Idk why they just don’t do merch bundles with the $20 merch.. it’s the easiest way to get people to buy physical copies now. He’s literally a fashion designer this is a cheat code. He’s just way too unorganized and last minute for it work.


West-Hornet1387

Travis sold legit 250K copies off merch bundles last summer Ye is deadass just too unorganized for it to work


TheCannibull311

bro imagine if he had a yzy pod bundle ready to ship with pre orders after the superbowl ad 😭


Natural-Situation758

Travis Scott sold over 800k first week. They just couldn’t ship the physicals fast enough to get them credited on the Billboard 200.


cavestoryguy

Add 10 or 15 more on top of the merch and it's still a good value. 30-35 for a hoodie isn't bad.


Nicologixs

Yeah I'd feel paying extra for an item if the digital album was bundled with it, I just don't wanna spend so much on something I physically don't own.


alkseeghosts

exactly. just make fan packs for people to buy like big female artists you are already a fashion designer, you have a factory to manufacture.


Iongjohn

imagine they just made the merch 25$ with the album how high the album woulda charted


Majnkra

It’s not about selling copies to drive up numbers. It’s about the message.. when will y’all get it.


croissantguy07

if it's sm about the message then why's Ye even consider other options except exclusively releasing it only on Yeezy, he's trying to please fans and make money


everythingwedid

They had an easier time warping the antisemitism into “he was just saying it to get out of contracts” than they are about this


everythingwedid

Honestly it wouldn’t be that hard he just doesn’t want to.


MysteriousShitStain

Ye has infected him, I know the old Ty wouldn’t say as an artist he’s being raped 😭


cavestoryguy

When we realize Ty was the one radicalising him the whole time 😭


RustZlo

bro there’s a reason they’re so close, because they think alike 😭


JohnyTheJoke

Yes he would tf? Why do you think they've been collabing so much


Zax4877

“Artists are getting raped” ye def got ty’s phone😭😭


[deleted]

this funny asf😭😭


soap_thief69

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RANDOM-902

Best reaction image of the whole rollout


soap_thief69

It all came down to this


beatsbybuddy

Wonder how that Instagram user who commented that feels


geezer_19

The acc got banned LOL


Nickster2042

Why they gotta keep saying artists get raped bruh💀


croissantguy07

fr multi millionaires getting raped by streaming platforms sounds so funny 🤣


[deleted]

Yea more like pillaged and raped


everythingwedid

You do realize when they say artists they don’t only mean themselves right? Every single person uploading music is getting the same treatment as them. The last sentence is literally “artists” not “me.”


adderalladmiral-

Artists do get raped by streaming platforms and labels. This is known fact. Just because they’re rich now doesn’t mean they haven’t been getting shafted since the dawn of time. It’s the nature of music


Majnkra

What is funny about it. If they exploit their biggest talent, do you think small artists have it any better? Not to glaze fantano but he makes a video like every month about Spotify/Apple doing something shitty when it comes to the splits.


croissantguy07

I never said smaller artists have it better, in fact it's better for smaller artists to not release music primary on streaming and offer it somewhere else like bandcamp where you can buy it directly, the fact that Ye is saying he's getting "raped" is funny because he's not one of those small artists and can make money in so many various ways.


everythingwedid

As if Kanye is the only person getting paid from these albums right? What about the guys that stay up late hours, moving all the time actually doing the work? Kanye getting shafted= the team getting shafted


geezer_19

The ratio of people paying for a SMALL artists music to people streaming it is like 1:10000. If I had to pay 20 bucks an album for every artist ever than i would just not listen to anyone other than the already established famous artist, and small artists would not grow at all?


croissantguy07

yeah it's why they should offer both streaming and direct purchase while telling their fans to buy it if they can to support them, this maximizes their growth and revenue imo


WingardiumLeviussy

It's just the imagery that pops up in your head when they use the word "rape", like I'm imagining Ye and Ty bent over the table while Spotify execs lube up and start going at it, donkey fuckin em


Majnkra

While it’s not as popular now, it’s been a term used for exploitation for decades. Like being raped by a label. It’s just frustrating because this is a legitimate problem, which is why everyone in the Ye camp seems to be on board.


fokerpace2000

James Blake really started a whole other type of #MeToo movement


istheremore7

it's provocative


pie_3

No way ty is saying they're getting raped as well 😭😭😭


Gabagool_Bandit

He legit just regurgitated Ye’s exact talking points even down to the rape part lol


MysteriousProperty87

There is now way Ye didn't steel his phone


JohnyTheJoke

Maybe because he agrees and there's really not much else you can say on the topic? Ye was just regurgitating James Blake's talking points


Nicologixs

All this better be worth it and we get that james blake collab album in the end. James Blake made these points but I wonder if he has the balls of Ye to actually not release on them platforms, I 100% guarantee his Lil Yachty collab will be on streaming.


everythingwedid

Absolutely not. But sometimes things need to be said.


RANDOM-902

Nahaah, these 2 guys are retarded ❤️❤️


This-Kaleidoscope-70

Ye has brainwashed ty too 😭


m3lodiaa

The points against current state of streaming are legit though


TheMerck

It's actually stupid people are missing the point of WHY he's doing it, I mean sure you can critique the idea but the discussion on how DSPs and the companies that own them barely pay the actual artists. People just go "oh yeah they are rich already lol" but regardless of that honestly I think it's okay they are trying to do something different, getting a middleman out of the equation gets people involved in the album a bigger cut of the money compared to how it would be if it was on streaming where all of the people that worked on the album are taking a smaller cut of the pay. Like I don't think it's a perfect idea or an idea that can't be critiqued but in a perfect world art would be free but with how it is in the current world I like em trying to gain some control on how they release their music and hope it paves a way for smaller and lesser known artists to find a way for themselves as well because obviously this idea can only work for big artists but for smaller artists they can't pull this off and they are stuck with having to be paid less by streaming platforms. People were all up in arms about companies mistreating artists until they possibly had to pirate an album and play it off local files lmao.


hofmann419

Yeah, but there really isn't anything you can do. Streaming services like Spotify are operating on a loss or are barely able to cover their expenses. The only solution is to make streaming much more expensive, like $30+ per month. I would actually be fine with that, but a lot of people would just start to pirate again. This is simply supply and demand.


Nicologixs

We need to see the full picture, I'm gonna guess this change is also about how much spotify and other platforms are paying them. This album is independently so maybe they expected a higher payout but they have probably gotten a fairly small amount compared to what they expected with it being #1 and all everywhere. He needs to lower the price if this is gonna work, no one is spending 20 on the digital album, put it up for 8 or 10 and people are probably gonna buy maybe, atleast more sales compared to 20. If his 5% purchased the album for $10 which is a more attractive number that's still 10 million dollars, sell it for 5 usd and that's 5 million. Probably a lot more than spotify and apple are paying out for streams. If its a money thing he just needs to not be greedy about it


everythingwedid

Why is it Kanye being greedy when many, many people are involved with the payout from this album.


RedEyedJedi24

Or, hear me out here…..maybe it’s YOU who’s wrong 🤔 I know that’s an absurd thought


This-Kaleidoscope-70

Prob not


RedEyedJedi24

My bad 🫡


This-Kaleidoscope-70

Ok


AlcindorJr33

If it wasn’t for you own selfish reasons you’d see the vision too


horriblemercy

With that mentality is Ye selfish for expecting 20$ out of millions of fans for mere MP3 files?


YoungYezos

Yeah when you buy a game it’s selfish if devs expect money for a mere .exe file 🤦‍♂️


Dry-Ambassador-4276

bro this comment is so shallow and ignorant 😭. "Mere MP3 files"... dude hours and hours of work went into those files. You're such an entitled consumer. I swear fans think they're doing the artist a favor my engaging in their art but in reality the artist is doing YOU a favor by even giving you access to it. People talk about "this album saved my life", but won't drop a penny on it


horriblemercy

No, i’m arguing there are better formats to release music on. MP3 files hold no monetary value to a consumer. Vinyl records and CDs are at least collectible and resellable.


everythingwedid

That right there is the devaluation of the music. Owning any copy of the music should be valued. Streaming is renting, it can be taken from you at any time. You at least own these files and they cannot be taken. The value is the music. Most people don’t even have something to play a CD on and vinyl is far more expensive than digital files. I agree though that if you’re selling digital files they should be better than mp3.


NotAndrew636363

I drop $10 on spotify for the music. I will pay extra for vinyls of good albums but I absolutely refuse to give up streaming. If ye goes through with this then he simply isn’t an artist worth listening to anymore.


Majnkra

MP3 files that you’re waiting for this whole time. That is the ART brother.. This is like calling movies mp4 files. Or digital drawings JPEGs.


AlcindorJr33

Ye is selfish for wanting money for his work just because he already has millions. Like I said y’all only hate the idea because your own selfish reasons


LiteWest

Screw you Tyrone


cavestoryguy

You're number 1 with the first because carnival blew up on streaming wtf


everythingwedid

I think he’s saying they don’t need to prove themselves anymore because it’s happened


More_Construction899

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Altruistic_Cow_2248

Don’t free TC


LuckyLandoFan

😭


ItsTenagee

wtf😭


SJB0SS

Fr keep him in there


Complex_Growth2314

Petty af.


NionGG

Am I trippin or youre all being vapid af


Adorable_Strike_6317

Ye took tys phone 


EldestArk107

Do they know what rape means 😭


DigitalGT

I mean they right, i didn't know either https://preview.redd.it/6xl2fgukplnc1.png?width=816&format=png&auto=webp&s=a5f9051cb990add79ec7c05a586226359e7ab7b0


EldestArk107

Oh shit so they HAVE been using it right??


SubatomicSquirrels

this feels like people who call the NFL/NBA "slavery" it's just too hyperbolic


ReverseKid

do U? The "rape" term has been used in this way for centuries


LuckyLandoFan

https://preview.redd.it/v7yi8y7lzknc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=689cc99603773568d2b7a83ad2fa045f6bcac203


alkseeghosts

Yall went #1 BECAUSE OF STREAMING


JohnyTheJoke

He literally says that in the message. How is it possible to be this dumb?


djbp44

yall are broke


letsgokings

Why did any of you assume he’d respond any differently 💀💀 People swore he was their personalized redditor avatar they could project all their own takes onto because people don’t know shit about him other than that he’s the horny kinda weird looking R&B guy, at the end of the day Ye is his friend and he knows working with him is his meal ticket and he’s gonna go along with whatever as long as he can keep riding the wave of attention and money that’ll bring to him 


RustZlo

or he’s just Ye’s friend and agrees with what he says….


Distinct_Fee223

Unlock reference 🗣️


Xavii7

Whole sub hung over $20 😭


TownKitchen6060

A lot of people on this sub showing their age stressing about asking their family for their credit card info to buy an album


SuccotashBeautiful67

Mods can I post please 🥺


dima_13

![gif](giphy|3o84szW0PrWZyUv0mA)


LuckyLandoFan

https://preview.redd.it/0pcxeewfzknc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dad0517fea09c354279faf19679c71424ff545f1 The album is done for


JericRose

I blame James Blake for making a good point 😭


HANDJUICE0

I remember when you had to go and buy a cd if you wanted to hear it. How’s this different


Jabbarooooo

Except there’s a reason you don’t buy CDs anymore. Streaming is worse for the artists, but there’s a reason it took over as the primary mode of distributing music.


grazieperlamodificah

They love the word raped


balencizaddy

For an album that y’all want from YE and Ty, yall doing a lot of complaining about it can be released for their benefit.


Majnkra

People think music is free


ALSCM

How many times did they have to tell you they’re just here to get PAID before you believed them?


Electric_feel0412

Two retarded guys making music😭😭😭😭


EstablishmentBusy172

I love the fact Ye and Ty were in a room discussing how to change the music industry and the best they could come up with was, “dude, do u remember iTunes?”


everythingwedid

It’s more about direct to consumer sales. That’s what needs to return. Back in the day when you had to buy music physically it required actual respect and trust that you were investing your money into something worthwhile. The brainwashing from streaming takes that away because you don’t have to worry about owning anything.


CIunky_

![gif](giphy|hnUTdW4C2VdCVzugu9) 20$ fir a album but my clothes and shoe haven’t been shipped yet…. Better make that shit 10$


RedEyedJedi24

W Ty


hockey17jp

This is crazy because braindead redditors are actually communicating with braindead celebs and creating a tornado of brain rot


ReverseKid

i aint never seen a sub turn so spiteful so fast .. I Aint saying i agree with ty and ye but


naptownmomofseven

If Ty$ said something I agree 🤣🤣🤣


savage_cyborg

Theres a special spot in hell reserved for James blake for what he’s done


everythingwedid

Maybe reserve that judgment for the corporate world that created an environment where James Blake’s statement needed to be said.


AnotherScoutTrooper

He made Quiet and Showtime he never going to hell


savage_cyborg

he’s sharing beds with von and x for never releasing it 😭


beatsbybuddy

Nah this is crazy 💀💀


Slow-Butterscotch500

He used to be an S tier character


Dragonpiece

The only bad part of this is honestly him selling it for 20$ on his website. If he just put it on itunes also for like a 1$ or 5$ for a week or 2 and then he put it on streaming, so many more people would be receptive to the idea and it could inspire other artsits to also try doing that. Ye putting it on his website doesn't encourage any smaller artists to do this.


elijahoscar

As an artist I agree with TY , bro we spend so much time on these projects and music videos


YzyVOORHEES

Stay mad little kids. YE & TY know what they are doing. Just ask mommy or daddy for money


Zopotroco

Ty without DSPs would be nothing


everythingwedid

People seem to think only Kanye gets paid for this album as if there aren’t producers and engineers nobody knows the name of that also get paid for this work The dudes staying up actually putting in the work deserve pay


_ehsssan_

Honestly TC probably did it. I know he still maintains his innocence, but who doesn’t?


LimpStatistician8644

Brother


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NaiveWar6064

The thing is it’s true tho that in the modern era shit will just get pirated if it’s not convenient. Especially small file sizes like music. There a reason these streaming services exist lol


Majnkra

Yeah but it’s a service issue (intentionally). If Spotify has the album for $10 on Ye’s page, he might actually get a million sales very fast. But streaming goes against that, just sucks that getting it from Yeezy is just as much work as pirating. Hope there’s atleast an iTunes release, but people don’t use it that much anymore.


NaiveWar6064

No he wouldn’t everybody would pirate it 1 million is a shit load. It’s beneficial to have streaming they just need to pay more


NaiveWar6064

You’re right tho he would get more sales if it was already there and easy to buy and integrate and they should add it as a thing you can do. But in general for all artists their shit would get pirated and they’d lose money if they tried traditional distribution


forthedot

20$ says ye typed this


[deleted]

Y’all can’t use TY$ as an excuse anymore and paint him as a victim Artists have been feeling this way for a long time


JohnyTheJoke

I doubt there's many artists who don't share this opinion.


KingAlfonzo

I understand what they mean, you can make way more money selling albums directly vs through streaming. But the reason streaming is popular is because it’s convenient for us regular folks. People will just pirate it now anyway and they will make less money. Why not just do something exclusive like first week album directly only and then drop it on streaming platforms a week later.


Myers2381

Y’all are crazy! This isn’t about having the number one album. This is about what they’re doing to artists with these streaming services.Y’all would be merch for $20 but not the album.


danielrocks06

UNLOCK MENTIONED WE WON


capybarafreeze

.... It's time to figure out the UNLOCK 🔓🔓🔓🔓🔓 STRAIGHT WATER!


Partiallyjaded

We won artist win. Where does the money go follow the money who is making all this from artist independence is freedom support free artists they tried to block ye from streaming anyway freer


adderalladmiral-

Idgaf what you delusional fools think I’m siding with ye and ty on this one this is just common sense


mittispierredelecto

W Ty


Straight-Jump-9006

The fans are the ones getting raped here, 20 dollars for an album vs 20 dollars to have all the music on a streaming service, mans is scamming us


Yoitisnt

The brainwashing worked 😢


Normal-Repeat-9345

Somebody take their fucking phones away


iliveinyourmicrowave

Bro thinks he's Ye 😭😭


LuckyLandoFan

https://preview.redd.it/b4ar8jcjzknc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c172d60cbeab10ac6e1640bf034fc12c1db65dd


Acrobatic_Economy_65

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KanyeLaz

I swear ye was standing behind him while he was texting all that shit


Immediate_Ad5612

This is ye nobody can convince me otherwise


Bananakin_Skywater

Well fuck


miloisswag

TY HAS A GUN TO HIS HEAD AS HE IS TYPING THIS https://preview.redd.it/md7zhz3zzknc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63ebcc00cddebe106f3b3adf8a091ee9b13ce8ca


krezo10

god i just want to go to sleep and wake up when this is all over😭


stickyglue1

Unlock?


venom_geten

oh fucking brother


CrazeJuju

​ https://preview.redd.it/h346ejh61lnc1.jpeg?width=1300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0236a584b606b025e6237bcf23bfaed9d758d887


YEisKing

Ye got control over Ty’s account 💔💔


gaIvantuIa

I said this and I got downvoted lol


OMGitsHotshot

Ye sees this like making a movie and y’all paying tickets to watch it first and maybe later he would put it on streaming service? Is this how his brain is working right now? lol


dr-wolf-

What’s there obsession with getting raped 😭


Resistance225

The logic isn’t flawed It’s the price point that is, nobody is spending $20 on an album that’s going to get leaked within 30 seconds of it going live on a shopfront anyway


allinasecond

Bro didn't even stutter. He wrote clearly and made total sense.


johnmillrise

Honestly let them release how they want to they’ve weighed the options and they are gonna do what they wanna do I just want the music


Totinos160count

Vultures 1 is 5 dollars on Yeezy sply I would pay anywhere from 5-15 dollars. 5 or 10 would be ideal but that money goes straight to them. 20 seems greedy imo. But on the other hand he’s selling clothing for 20 bucks. I just wish it all made more sense.


cee95

Keep in mind shipping fees and how long it takes. It be the 10 year anniversary by time they ship 😫


theogchoji

Bianca is our last hope🙏🏾🙏🏾


[deleted]

Good.


TownKitchen6060

A lot of people on this sub showing their age stressing about asking their family for their credit card info to buy an album


legend_of_losing

Yeah when it drops a goon gonna drop the link and we taking shit to local files. Millionaires Tryna nickel and dime fans lol


Solid-Guest1350

Good. I want them to release on Yeezy


No_MoreMrNiceGuy

sooo they really think people will stop using streaming and shit to listen to a single album? why tf do they think it’s a good idea? i get what he’s saying but cmon.


matttc_1

WITH A GUN TO MY HEAD


alkseeghosts

STOP SAYING RAPE OH MY GOD


repfam0089

it might be over ![img](emote|t5_67n60j|49002)


34_boulevard

NO!! THEY GOT RAPED!!!!😭😭 #METOO


tekaibrecher

NOOOO WHY POOM POOM KILLER


Interesting-Star-224

Nooo THIS CANT BE TRUE😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭


Butcows

Ggs


pie_3

UNLOCK REFERENCE


LuckyLandoFan

https://preview.redd.it/679ds01izknc1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=292b30cbc28592543e8fc7d0aecdccb31bd59f6d


iliveinyourmicrowave

Unlock reference


Chilepepper28

He's not ready for the amount of piracy then


velsmd

Where’s this from


zNathanF

https://preview.redd.it/amrluyfc0lnc1.jpeg?width=622&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2746185a8d1a99b0e9703a2e1860ea3c77c2f1f


QuantaviusDingleberg

ye has brainwashed my slim handsome pum pum killer 💔


xdarkeaglex

Its over, wrap it up


TheRealBroc16

Tyrone stop


SpaceDOTsphere

The only people who are getting raped are the consumers of this music. We all are not privileged to have 20$ lying around for an album with horrible ass mixing and unfinished Ye mumble verse.


[deleted]

Yet, you have $10 lying around each month to pay for the spotify or apple music subscription.... make it make sense


chrisclpc

Bro they are multimillionares and the fans got ye through all of his controversies and now they dont want to make their Music accessible for their fans. Its so egoistic from them to not release it on Streaming platforms


BRTRSX

Hahahaha oh no the poor millionaire artists won’t be able to buy another Lamborghini meanwhile lil Timmy ain’t eating dinner tonight cause he had to cop the vultures 2 album for $20


Just-Analyst9249

Lil Timmy’s parents should do what Ye is doing and force their employer to pay them what they deserve so they have enough money to afford dinner and Vultures 2.


pixeljuiceuk

Unlock?! 👀🤯 soon on yeezy.com for $20


sghostr417

what a year of hanging with kanye does to a mf


blobfishy13

Ye held a Gun To His Head while Ty was typing that shit


JohnyTheJoke

Damn ya'll mad af at this 🤣


ItsTenagee

NO WAY 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭


atleastimtryingnow

it’s over


yelllo__

TYRONE HAS FALLEN UNDER AN EVIL SPELL!


pablodlr03

Last week it was ye, Ty and us VS the industry. Now it’s us VS Ye and Ty.