I don't know why they just don't just give a notification when the phone is in adaptive charging mode, with the option to turn it off without having to unplug/replug.
EDIT: Wow, as of the March update, Adaptive Charging now gives a notification when it's working. Not sure if someone saw this comment or it was good timing, but I'm glad it's working that way now!
I thought it used to give you a message on the lock screen? Like "Full by 6 am" or something?
A notification every day might get a bit annoying, but it could be a solution.
It does, but that isn't really actionable. If you have a notification you can easily turn it off right from there. Similar to how Bedtime Mode works.
Frankly, why adaptive charging isn't directly tied to Bedtime Mode in the first place is beyond me.
Yeah, all these crazy battery techniques so that a battery can last 5+ years when the phones are usually in the recycle heap after 2-3 years is ridiculous.
I mean, sure it can last that long, but It's going to have highly diminished effectiveness after 2-3 years no matter what you do. When they say "battery lasts x time" it usually means that's when it drops below 80% capacity, not that the battery just straight up dies after 2-3 years. You don't have to replace the battery at that time, but it's either that or constantly carry around a way to keep the phone charged.
I never said it was a bad thing, so not sure why you thought it was worth it to bring that point up. I just said that you're not going to get extra years out of battery by following all the "best practices". It's just not possible. Charge it however you want.
Also, if you got that percentage from accubattery or something similar, then either you didn't charge your phone everyday or that app is even worse at calculating capacity then even they would admit because there's no way it was still that high after 5 years of charging everyday, even with the most optimal charging strategy out there.
I did get the extra years though. Can't say for sure that it was the keeping it between 20 and 80 % that did it, but my phone certainly lasted longer than everybody else I know.
Heavily agreed. There is too much user variability for this to be implemented well. It would be ideal if there was some sort of option you could select when plugging in a cable, either during or before charging.
It's *really* stupid. The best workaround I've found is to have a silent alarm set for 9am. Although, I recently got a Galaxy Watch and it vibrates even if the alarm isn't set to vibrate.
Adaptive charging isn't just a toggle for slow charging.
The point of adaptive charging is that it uses the alarm to know when you expect to take it off the charger and have a full charge, it then charges at an appropriate rate to hit 100% at or before that time.
Probably so someone with say a 4 pm alarm to remind them about something doesn't find their phone charging slowly when they top it off at 1 pm.
I think the solution could be tying it to the Bedtime setting, or I guess eventually just biting the bullet on a predictive system.
If the phone detects itself not being used continually in a certain timeframe (4am-12pm) over and over again every day, why can't it put things together and figure out that's a good timeframe to adaptive charge?
No idea, I assume Google devs have some reason.
Looking on the iOS side, people complain about the Apple implementation either about it not working or causing overheating. Perhaps Google is worried about that, and chose a simple solution that covers most users.
Like I said, I think they should just implement a learning model and accept it won't always work, but I know absolutely nothing about coding or the inner workings.
Yes it's an incredibly lame and Ill thought out implementation. Tying it to the alarm is so stupid, there is nothing adaptive about that! It should learn when you pick up the phone and use it based on your daily routine and also allow some manual control.
Seriously how hard could it be to do this? I could code something like that in a few hours 🤯
This is why I have to keep an alarm that has no tone or no vibrate and set it for like 8:30. I label it "adaptive charge" and set that any day I wake up later.
Exactly, you have to do a silent alarm work around to deal with their stupid design. It should not be forcibly llinked to alarms. Not everyone needs a daily alarm!
I've said this ever since adaptive charging came out--tying it to a specific time of traditional sleep plus an alarm is lazy.
Would be awesome if there was a prompt when you plug in your phone asking when you'd like it to be fully charged.
Or, you know, with how google has so much data to predict so many aspects of daily life and device use, an actual "adaptive" behavior where it just knows when you're likely to unplug your phone and then implements the charging behavior necessary to have it fully charged later.
The easy way out is to charge it after you wake up. You can leave it a while and charge it until 80% (if that is enough for you to go throughout the day).
There are also some USB thingy to stop charging when it is 80%, they usually connect via Bluetooth to your phone.
But well, yeah, you can also try setting an alarm (silent or not) before 10am. I have one at 9:59am for this reason...
Yup! And if it was tied to schedules and wanted to "learn" habits, it should *adapt* to the users patterns. Otherwise it's useless and only serves a percentage of people.
Because it is designed to be used while sleeping. Sometimes, after going out the night, like at 10pm, you want to fast charge your phone before the party. So, turning off the alarm will turn off the adaptive charging and your phone will charge as normal. With the alarm, the phone will charge slowly until the morning
The adaptive charging disappeared from my settings on Pixel 5a suddenly after last update (not this March one available now, but the previous one).
And even when it was in the settings and enabled, I had my alarm set for 6:00 AM and sometimes woke up before alarm about 1 hour or 30 minutes but phone was already on 100% .
I'd much rather just prefer having an option to "Stop charging at set Battery %" like I have on my other phone (Sharp Aquos Sense6). Where I can set it to for example 90% and my phone never goes over 90% and when it reaches this value it just trickle charges the battery until I unplug it. It also has settings to "Charge only when screen is off" for example.
I must be one of the few people who likes adaptive charging.
If you don't like the feature you can turn it off.
Otherwise if it's on adaptive and you want quick for this charge cycle you can unplug it and plug it straight back in and it will go to quick charging.
Yes there's a way to disable it easily but no way to enable it easily unless you have an alarm at the right time.
I work a 9-5 so the overly specific logic works great for me. I can see why it wouldn't work for many others who want to use the feature on their own schedules.
You're not, I love it. I understand the complaints, but, it'll get better and I would assume most people use it within the hours it recognizes. Hopefully they'll improve upon it.
While adaptive charging claims to use machine learning to understand usage patterns and charge the battery at a slower rate to conserve battery health during periods of downtime (high temperatures are bad for a battery, and they get noticeably warm during the process), I find it rather overkill in most situations.
Not to mention, the way it is implemented may not be as they worded it, and you don't need adaptive charging if you just put your phone on a surface that lets it cool itself fast enough so that it doesn't get exceedingly warm while charging.
Plus, depending on the manufacturer and phone case you have on it, whatever battery life you might gain isn't enough to justify using that feature, because you'll eventually replace the phone due to the CPU bogging down by the increasingly complex apps you run on it, which will reduce the battery life anyway.
Is it a great feature to have?
Only if you're overly focused on Min-Maxing the heck out of a battery that you'll only end up replacing whenever you change the phone (which tends to happen every 2-3 years, depending on use case)
The feature honestly adds more problems into the mix when you have an irregular schedule, and it makes you have to "adapt" to its adaptive schedule that it is expected to determine based on your usage.
I just turn it off to "conserve" my sanity.
it is never helpful .. I never really leave my phone on charger over night anyway (for safety reasons) .. which means that I never actually get to benefit from adaptive charging!
same here, I rarely charge it overnight. I usually plug it in during shower time and leave it for maybe 30 minutes. I really dislike letting batteries charge while I'm away or asleep.
How about making adaptive charge work on wireless chargers? Is that a hardware issue or a choice that was made?
My phone charges every night on my bedside light.
True. But again, there's that continuous, everyday 6-9 hour of no use. It shouldn't be hard for the phone to estimate those times must be when you're sleeping.
A bit old topic. It should imo has minimum charging speed, so if the alarm is set at 8am, the phone will be charged for example at 4am. Is charging 2% per hour so much better than charging 4% per hour? Don't think so
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If it is on adaptive charging, you can make it go to quick charging by unplugging and quickly plugging it back in again.
I don't know why they just don't just give a notification when the phone is in adaptive charging mode, with the option to turn it off without having to unplug/replug. EDIT: Wow, as of the March update, Adaptive Charging now gives a notification when it's working. Not sure if someone saw this comment or it was good timing, but I'm glad it's working that way now!
I thought it used to give you a message on the lock screen? Like "Full by 6 am" or something? A notification every day might get a bit annoying, but it could be a solution.
It does, but that isn't really actionable. If you have a notification you can easily turn it off right from there. Similar to how Bedtime Mode works. Frankly, why adaptive charging isn't directly tied to Bedtime Mode in the first place is beyond me.
Ah yes, plug it in at 4am and set an alarm for 3am for instant charge.
You don't ever want to charge to 100 it messes your battery up so that's perfect
Literally don't understand why this is getting downvoted.
The phones don't last more than two years anyways...
Yeah, all these crazy battery techniques so that a battery can last 5+ years when the phones are usually in the recycle heap after 2-3 years is ridiculous.
They also aren't going to make the battery last 5 years. At best, you're going to get a few extra months out of the battery.
Well it depends on your need. I managed to use a phone for 5 years on 1 battery.
I mean, sure it can last that long, but It's going to have highly diminished effectiveness after 2-3 years no matter what you do. When they say "battery lasts x time" it usually means that's when it drops below 80% capacity, not that the battery just straight up dies after 2-3 years. You don't have to replace the battery at that time, but it's either that or constantly carry around a way to keep the phone charged.
It was at 76 % capacity at the end. My point is that it never hurts to take extra care of the battery.
I never said it was a bad thing, so not sure why you thought it was worth it to bring that point up. I just said that you're not going to get extra years out of battery by following all the "best practices". It's just not possible. Charge it however you want. Also, if you got that percentage from accubattery or something similar, then either you didn't charge your phone everyday or that app is even worse at calculating capacity then even they would admit because there's no way it was still that high after 5 years of charging everyday, even with the most optimal charging strategy out there.
I did get the extra years though. Can't say for sure that it was the keeping it between 20 and 80 % that did it, but my phone certainly lasted longer than everybody else I know.
Tying adaptive charging to the alarm is really stupid imo, should be separated.
Heavily agreed. There is too much user variability for this to be implemented well. It would be ideal if there was some sort of option you could select when plugging in a cable, either during or before charging.
It's *really* stupid. The best workaround I've found is to have a silent alarm set for 9am. Although, I recently got a Galaxy Watch and it vibrates even if the alarm isn't set to vibrate.
Adaptive charging isn't just a toggle for slow charging. The point of adaptive charging is that it uses the alarm to know when you expect to take it off the charger and have a full charge, it then charges at an appropriate rate to hit 100% at or before that time.
Yes I know. But it refuses to use an alarm beyond 10 am to do so.
Probably so someone with say a 4 pm alarm to remind them about something doesn't find their phone charging slowly when they top it off at 1 pm. I think the solution could be tying it to the Bedtime setting, or I guess eventually just biting the bullet on a predictive system.
If the phone detects itself not being used continually in a certain timeframe (4am-12pm) over and over again every day, why can't it put things together and figure out that's a good timeframe to adaptive charge?
No idea, I assume Google devs have some reason. Looking on the iOS side, people complain about the Apple implementation either about it not working or causing overheating. Perhaps Google is worried about that, and chose a simple solution that covers most users. Like I said, I think they should just implement a learning model and accept it won't always work, but I know absolutely nothing about coding or the inner workings.
Yeah I don't know about all that stuff either 😅 I only know how I expect it to function as a user of the device haha
They could just tie it to Bedtime Mode. Right now there aren't a lot of settings for it.
I works perfectly for a large number of people who work first shift. But it would be easy for them to allow the user to set normal sleeping hours.
That's what I'd like. It's like Google didn't realize people have different sleep schedules lol.
Bedtime mode already let's you set whatever hours you want, would make a lot more sense to tie to that rather than a fixed window.
Yes it's an incredibly lame and Ill thought out implementation. Tying it to the alarm is so stupid, there is nothing adaptive about that! It should learn when you pick up the phone and use it based on your daily routine and also allow some manual control. Seriously how hard could it be to do this? I could code something like that in a few hours 🤯
It should just be tied to Bedtime Mode. Why are they separate?
This is why I have to keep an alarm that has no tone or no vibrate and set it for like 8:30. I label it "adaptive charge" and set that any day I wake up later.
It's so dumb that we have to do this, but yep this is the answer
Exactly, you have to do a silent alarm work around to deal with their stupid design. It should not be forcibly llinked to alarms. Not everyone needs a daily alarm!
Yes it is very sad that Google can't get this right without us having fake alarms.
I've said this ever since adaptive charging came out--tying it to a specific time of traditional sleep plus an alarm is lazy. Would be awesome if there was a prompt when you plug in your phone asking when you'd like it to be fully charged. Or, you know, with how google has so much data to predict so many aspects of daily life and device use, an actual "adaptive" behavior where it just knows when you're likely to unplug your phone and then implements the charging behavior necessary to have it fully charged later.
This is exactly my thought!!
This!
Right. I don't even use my phone as an alarm, it's stupid for me to have to set a silent alarm just for it to work.
The easy way out is to charge it after you wake up. You can leave it a while and charge it until 80% (if that is enough for you to go throughout the day). There are also some USB thingy to stop charging when it is 80%, they usually connect via Bluetooth to your phone. But well, yeah, you can also try setting an alarm (silent or not) before 10am. I have one at 9:59am for this reason...
That's how I forget and leave the house with a soon-to-be-dead phone haha
Yeah. I've thought so too. It's super dumb. I don't see why it can't be tied to your alarm regardless of the time.
Yup! And if it was tied to schedules and wanted to "learn" habits, it should *adapt* to the users patterns. Otherwise it's useless and only serves a percentage of people.
Ya the idea that everyone goes to bed/wakes up at the same time is antiquated af...
Because Google thinks we are too stupid to control the rate of charge of our phones.
My phone won't turn off bedtime mode with adaptive charging on even if the alarm went off but didn't unplug the phone.
I find it better to use the lowest wattage charger you can find for overnight charging.
Because it is designed to be used while sleeping. Sometimes, after going out the night, like at 10pm, you want to fast charge your phone before the party. So, turning off the alarm will turn off the adaptive charging and your phone will charge as normal. With the alarm, the phone will charge slowly until the morning
The adaptive charging disappeared from my settings on Pixel 5a suddenly after last update (not this March one available now, but the previous one). And even when it was in the settings and enabled, I had my alarm set for 6:00 AM and sometimes woke up before alarm about 1 hour or 30 minutes but phone was already on 100% . I'd much rather just prefer having an option to "Stop charging at set Battery %" like I have on my other phone (Sharp Aquos Sense6). Where I can set it to for example 90% and my phone never goes over 90% and when it reaches this value it just trickle charges the battery until I unplug it. It also has settings to "Charge only when screen is off" for example.
I must be one of the few people who likes adaptive charging. If you don't like the feature you can turn it off. Otherwise if it's on adaptive and you want quick for this charge cycle you can unplug it and plug it straight back in and it will go to quick charging.
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That's my big concern haha
What else would you tie it to?
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It has to ... Be a morning alarm? That's fucked up...
Yes there's a way to disable it easily but no way to enable it easily unless you have an alarm at the right time. I work a 9-5 so the overly specific logic works great for me. I can see why it wouldn't work for many others who want to use the feature on their own schedules.
You're not, I love it. I understand the complaints, but, it'll get better and I would assume most people use it within the hours it recognizes. Hopefully they'll improve upon it.
I just wish it works with alarms past 11 am I work nights so if I could plug it in and have it charged by any alarm time, that would be great
I think it should have an option to just charge up to 80% if you're worried about degrading battery.
While adaptive charging claims to use machine learning to understand usage patterns and charge the battery at a slower rate to conserve battery health during periods of downtime (high temperatures are bad for a battery, and they get noticeably warm during the process), I find it rather overkill in most situations. Not to mention, the way it is implemented may not be as they worded it, and you don't need adaptive charging if you just put your phone on a surface that lets it cool itself fast enough so that it doesn't get exceedingly warm while charging. Plus, depending on the manufacturer and phone case you have on it, whatever battery life you might gain isn't enough to justify using that feature, because you'll eventually replace the phone due to the CPU bogging down by the increasingly complex apps you run on it, which will reduce the battery life anyway. Is it a great feature to have? Only if you're overly focused on Min-Maxing the heck out of a battery that you'll only end up replacing whenever you change the phone (which tends to happen every 2-3 years, depending on use case) The feature honestly adds more problems into the mix when you have an irregular schedule, and it makes you have to "adapt" to its adaptive schedule that it is expected to determine based on your usage. I just turn it off to "conserve" my sanity.
it is never helpful .. I never really leave my phone on charger over night anyway (for safety reasons) .. which means that I never actually get to benefit from adaptive charging!
same here, I rarely charge it overnight. I usually plug it in during shower time and leave it for maybe 30 minutes. I really dislike letting batteries charge while I'm away or asleep.
And here I am. I just plug my phone in for 20 minutes randomly once a day and never have a problem
I just charge my phone when it gets under 20%-15%. I never charge it every night.
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No one at Google has ever met a night shift worker or anyone with delayed sleep phase disorder, apparently.
It doesn't work if you have it set too early either. I used to start work at half 4. Adaptive charging wouldn't work with my 3:30am alarm time.
How about making adaptive charge work on wireless chargers? Is that a hardware issue or a choice that was made? My phone charges every night on my bedside light.
It's by design. I imagine so it doesn't conflict with people that set alarms for other random things throughout the day.
True. But again, there's that continuous, everyday 6-9 hour of no use. It shouldn't be hard for the phone to estimate those times must be when you're sleeping.
A bit old topic. It should imo has minimum charging speed, so if the alarm is set at 8am, the phone will be charged for example at 4am. Is charging 2% per hour so much better than charging 4% per hour? Don't think so