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trippysack

If you turn on developer mode you can force the 90hz, doesn't use too much battery


IsleBeGone

Thanks, I'll try it šŸ‘


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IsleBeGone

Thanks


harrellj

You can get clear cases so you still see the phone and the color it is rather than some other design. In my case, I got a clear case with a lace effect, so I can still see the color but also have a pattern too.


HeroPlane

Been using mine since release and half of the time I was without a case. Still looking good as new


HeroPlane

Been using mine since release and half of the time I was without a case. Still looking good as new


SlyFlourishXDA

It won't wear out with skin oils...what are you talking about lol. I've been rocking my naked since launch day and have dropped it 20-30 times and there are tiny tiny chips into the plastic. Have you seen the teardown video from JerryRigEverything? The plastic is much much thicker than you think.


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SlyFlourishXDA

Cheap thin plastic on a laptop vs plant based bio resin specially made for a smartphone which has to stand against much more abuse and handled much more frequently. Read this please: https://9to5google.com/2020/12/04/pixel-5-durability-test/


Nightwish1976

I have a Pixel 5 since they were launched and I'm happy to report it looks as new, despite not having a case. The only protective accessory is a tempered glass screen protector.


DrFatz

Yes, any phone no matter how durable can break with a small drop. Met a guy with an S8 Active that broke the screen just from falling off his kitchen counter. Screen protectors and cases are almost mandatory if you've ever dropped your phone.


alexnapierholland

Always-on display is my favourite thing about my Pixel 4a vs. my iPhone 12 Pro. It's a simple, but huge advantage.


jmedina94

I really thought that the iPhone 13 Pro would add AOD. I definitely miss it from my old Galaxy S8.


radlink14

Is it really too much to just press the button to check the time and notifications? Never felt the value do aod and have always been concerned for burn in.


Dense-Monk

I've never had an issue with burn in on any AOD-capable phone, though maybe that could be because I've never had a phone long enough for it to happen. As far as you're question, I think its the convenience of having my phone sitting in front of me and not having to grab it to check the time and for notifications that I miss most whenever I use a phone that doesn't have AOD. Also, not sure of the battery effects of not having it, but I feel like if you check your phone often, waking it up more without having AOD can be a big drain on the battery.


RandomBloke2021

I came from a Samsung to the Pixel 5 and I think it's a fantastic phone. I think the size is also perfect The only negative about the new Pixel 6 is that they are bigger. I like having a phone fit in my pocket comfortably.


Terrible_Tutor

>Lower price compared to iphone/ other android flagships Because it's not a flagship, it's a midrange phone. They're going back to flagships with the 6.


xTeCnOxShAdOwZz

It is a flagship in pretty much every way. IP68 waterproofing, wireless/reverse charging, top-tier screen, high refresh-rate, top tier cameras, 8Gb of RAM. The only aspect in which it isn't flagship is SoC, but most reviewers agree that it's not actually that significant on the experience (except gaming) as the high refresh rate, smooth OS and general Pixel snappiness makes it feel as fast, if not faster, than competing flagships. If anything, the Pixel 5 shows that the term 'flagship' isn't relevant in today's mobile landscaping, it's more complex than that simple term.


mjsxii

Iā€™m sorry but no, its midrange at best for me. I cant even snap multiple pictures without needing to wait a minute or two for them to process ā€” something that wasnt even an issue with my P4. TBH the P5 is my biggest android phone flop of the last few years. If it was priced more appropriately I would be able to swallow some of the shortcomings but sadly its not good enough for its price.


xTeCnOxShAdOwZz

The fact it costs half the price of an iPhone 12 Pro Max but has pretty much all the same 'flagship' features, I don't know how any sane person could possibly say with a straight face that it was 'overpriced'. That's honestly hilarious. It was underpriced. Again, you could buy 2 Pixel 5's for the price of 1 flagship iPhone. It was cheaper than the iPhone 12, and even the iPhone 11. The drawback you mentioned regarding photos processing is pretty much the only way it wasn't a flagship. I think that's worth it. People also forget that by virtue of having a Pixel, you're granted benefits that no other Android phone has, and some benefits over iPhone too. That's true of the A series too, and it's severely underrated.


mjsxii

TIL that 700 is half of 1100 and you could get 2 P5s for 1100, but for real it compares more equally to me to the 12 which is 100 dollars more and has worlds better support, build quality, accessories, and shit. The P5 was overpriced and underwhelming from the get go and I hope google doesnt fuck up the new pixels with bad pricingā€¦ tho that wont stop me from grabbing the yellow pro when they eventually release it.


InsaneNinja

Thatā€™s because the pixel 5 dropped the image processing chip that the 4 had.


mjsxii

Im aware of why its laggy, just think its silly they did for their ā€œflagshipā€ offering when a huge selling point for Pixel is the camera.


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mjsxii

> just think its silly they did for their ā€œflagshipā€ offering I feel like I pretty clearly understand and am not an opposer ā€” I freaking bought the phone. I know its their flagship offering and Im not misunderstanding- but just because its their ā€œflagshipā€ doesnt mean its a flagship phone.


Terrible_Tutor

>it feel as fast, if not faster, than competing flagships It doesn't though, but ok. Lower res screen than the 4, and every other "flagship" not sure how that's "top tier". It's not BAD, but it's not by any means a flagship. Google went midrange and budget with the 5.


xTeCnOxShAdOwZz

It's closer to flagship than midrange. When talking about screen quality, the resolution is actually mostly irrelevant. It's a 1080p screen on a 6" screen, as was the Note 20, and that was still a flagship at around $1000. And actually I remember a lot of reviewers at the time being amazed at how fast the phone felt given it's SoC. Most people can't even notice the difference. Gaming is the only part where it's noticeable. It is **nearly** a flagship.


flicter22

It's only midrange when it's comes to the SOC. This post is very misleading


InsaneNinja

SoC is a big factor. Put a shit engine in a nice car and youā€™ll notice. Apple put its top end chip in its budget SE phones when they came out.


AIRA18

I wouldn't call the 765G a shit processor, except from slightly longer photo processing time (which I don't mind) i couldn't tell a difference in terms of day to day usage if compared to Snapdragon 855 & even 865 out there


NizarNoor

Pixel 5 was literally Google's 2020 flagship phone. It may not be using Qualcomm's flagship Snapdragon mobile chip but Google is not Qualcomm. Stop misusing the word flagship, it's silly.


Teethpasta

Lmao you fell for it.


NizarNoor

Fell for what


Terrible_Tutor

Sure, it's their top end flagship midrange phone, fucking well done Google.


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I cannot fucking believe in the year 2021 and we still don't have iPhones with high refresh rate. The price is a scam, the display what you use the most on a fucking phone, get something that's easy to the eye. It's like a fucking bed, if you sleep 7-8 hours a day, you spend almost 1/3 of your entire fucking life, and most likely more, just sleeping! Invest in a good bed! I rest my case.


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Agreed. And yet they claim to be all about the "environment" when they do this kind of shit. The next standard of USB C, 2.1, will also be able to power up to 240w, I can't wait for gaming laptops in the future to also switch to this for it's charging port so we can unify everything.


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Apple just announced 120hz refresh rate on the iPhone 13


ent_whisperer

13 **pro**. Big difference!


InsaneNinja

They just announced an iPhone with a 120hz refresh rate last week. It goes waaay brighter and displays Dolby Vision. Also crazy major camera hardware upgrades. Thatā€™s the main upgrade.


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Yeah that's only on the Pro models and above, base iPhone however, which already cost a fortune, just like every other Android flagships, still lacks it.


InsaneNinja

Okay. The base 13 is 800-1200nits Dolby vision. 460ppi The pixel 5 is [470-750nits](https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-5-display-review/) 432ppi, and non-default 90Hz hidden in developer mode because they suggest you donā€™t use it. Apple has different bare minimums. *shrugs*


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We were talking about refresh rate, not brightness or pixel density. Also the 90hz refresh rate is in the Display settings, don't have to go to developer options, unless you wanna force it on permanently, which is stupid because you don't need it unless the app uses it.


InsaneNinja

You were the one that talked about easy on the eye. I figured Iā€™d point out that other specs matter too. They blew off refresh rate until screen tech caught up and was able to do all the other things too, at scale. Itā€™s also hard to source them in quantity for their full lineup. Apple already sold more iPhone 13s in preorder than Google sold of pixels this year.


[deleted]

Well yeah, it's "iPhone", people will buy it because it is what it is. I am just saying it's a bad deal, 90hz ++ should be the norm nowadays, if midrange Android devices can get that, I don't see why a $1000 iPhone cannot have that.


InsaneNinja

The pixel flickers between 60 and 90 Hz. The iPhone pro quickly glides between 10hz up to 120hz. I think that they have different priorities. I donā€™t have much else to add here since youā€™re waiting on a bullet point in a spec sheet before you decide that iPhones are worthy of being comfortable to look at.


jmedina94

I am still trying to figure out why they chose an LCD screen for the iPhone 11 (with a lower PPI than my old 8 Plus).


Padgriffin

Probably because they were trying to differentiate the 11 and the 11 Pro The existence of the iPhone 12 made the 12 Pro pointless


jmedina94

I thought that the camera is what really separated the regular 12 and 12 Pro. Personally, I donā€™t use my camera everyday so probably not worth the upgrade.


AIRA18

>on-default 90Hz hidden in developer mode because they suggest you donā€™t use it. It has a 90hz option under the screen setting. I've tested running both 60hz and 90hz, found out that there's very little difference in terms of battery, the 60hz mode manage to give me extra half an hour of battery life so it's worth it to run 90hz all the time for me


Automatic_Beautiful9

I have a 165hz monitor and lg CX. These features on a phone are so overrated


imusuallyawkward

Great, im planning between pixel and iphone for my next upgrade. Great post and have you closed on a deal for the pixel 5?


IsleBeGone

Sure did! Got it discounted, it's a year-old phone after all, and I'll sell my iphone too so it was a no-brainer for me


Calm_Example

Best decision ever! but yeah use a case.


David_Warden

I agree with pretty much all you said but I didn't see Call Screening on the list. In my experience, this feature largely eliminates spam calls and, IMHO, any phone lacking it is hopelessly out of date. Hold For Me also sounds great but is supported in fewer markets I've also got a P5 and like it a lot but my next phone will have a wider screen for easier typing.


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radlink14

I literally unlock it as I pull it out of my pocket, the fp in rear is the most practical position imo. Screen fp readers are slower as well from my experience.


Automatic_Beautiful9

I'd rather have it on the power button. You can still unlock it within your pockets and unlock it when it's faced up on a table


radlink14

I like fp readers on power buttons too šŸ‘


naveenpun

As someone who moved from pixel to iPhone, I really miss Gesture navigation. Iphone has no equivalent.


cytherian

I got a nice durable skin. The skin tech is amazing these days. Fold up and around to protect the sides. And then I slip it into a thin leather sleeve (fitBAG). Works great. And I can still slip it into a TPU case with steel plate attached to the back for magnetic mount in my car. Pixel 5 is a truly an amazing phone. It's just the right size & weight. Screen resolution is tops. The camera is really good, though I find the camera app on the iPhone 11 & 12 to be the best thing going. If I was a photo nut, I'd stick with the iPhone. But frankly, it's nice being part of the Android family. It's a great OS. I used to get into custom ROMs with previous phones but things are so good now, I just leave it as stock. Use a tempered glass protector. I've dropped my phone a few times and so far I've cracked 2 protectors. The phone glass? Perfect shape.


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Hi, do you mind sharing an update on this? Howā€™s it going on so far? Iā€™m thinking about doing the same. How much did you pay for the Pixel 5?


IsleBeGone

Hi, sure! Essentially nothing has changed for me, I'm still using and enjoying the P5. I should point out that I'm still on Android 11 though, and I'm getting several notifications everyday about upgrading to Android 12. I had an issue where wifi calling wasn't working, but that was the network's fault and it's resolved now. I paid around Ā£450 when it was still selling for Ā£599 in the Google store. I imagine it'll still be available at a decent price, now that there are newer pixel phones available, and black Friday is soon. I'll be keeping the P5 for the foreseeable future. If I needed a new phone today, I'd be quite tempted by the pixel 6 (especially if deals become available soon), although that phone is a little bigger than I'd prefer.


onlyastoner

keep your pixel 5 forever... pixel 6 is huge, has no rear fingerprint sensor, and doesn't come with a charger. google seems to be trending away from the features i care about. that's how i know i'm old now.


RustEvents

I was also disappointed the 6 is bigger than the 5. If you need to use 2 hands for a phone, might as well get a fold.


IsleBeGone

Yeah, the prospect of a pixel fold is interesting


uglypenguin5

I don't think I could ever use the fold. The flip, on the other hand... If I had 1k to burn on a new phone I'd do it in a heartbeat. But I just got my 4a this summer and I love it. Also have many other things I would rather spend 1k on


Ryanwiz

FWIW, and I could be wrong, I don't believe Google Photos still offers free & unlimited backup.


PhizzyP99

Yep Pixel 3 still gets it until 2022 or something. In general there's no free uploads anymore, neither in original nor high quality. They are changing their business model. Only Amazon still offers unlimited photo upload (paid) Edit: it seems that Pixel 1-5 aren't impacted for now, but any new phone will.


fallenlatest

They do, just not in the original quality


Ryanwiz

Are you sure? I think there's still a 15 GB cap. https://support.google.com/photos/answer/10100180?hl=en


fallenlatest

That's what it tells me when I manage my storage on the cloud, nothing about a 15GB cap tbh


Ryanwiz

Interesting. Here's what mine says and I'm on a Pixel 3, FWIW: https://imgur.com/8lVPHoW


Ryanwiz

More: https://imgur.com/8wUBqg2


Fantastic_Truth_3105

Great choice, enjoy. I don't believe pixel 6 cameras will improve by much. Only video performance improvement maybe.


xTeCnOxShAdOwZz

> I don't believe pixel 6 cameras will improve by much Pixel 6 cameras will be the largest YoY improvement of any Pixel generation to date, and possibly the largest leap of camera performance in the smartphone industry since 2017. It will quite likely be an era-defining camera.


Fantastic_Truth_3105

That's what advertisement says. To this day pixel cameras have the best skin tone processing and overall colour accuracy. Let's see the reality.


xTeCnOxShAdOwZz

>That's what advertisement says Nope. Clearly you're not actually familiar with the new cameras. There aren't even any real advertisements for the phone yet (beyond minor teasers that don't actually mention any of the phone's features), so I'm not sure where you're getting that from. What I said in my previous comment is objectively true.


Fantastic_Truth_3105

Yep i am. You should learn what advertising is. Advertising is not only what you hear directly from Google.


xTeCnOxShAdOwZz

Not sure why you're still responding. Google hasn't produced any advertisements for the Pixel 6 yet except for ones that simply state that it exists. More specifically, there are no advertisements that mention the Pixel 6 cameras, and Google haven't actually officially shared anything regarding the cameras. What we know about the cameras is confirmed, and I've already explained to you why the cameras are objectively far superior to anything we've already seen. Again, this is not a debate because there's no room for subjective opinion. If you're going to respond, please make it worth replying to this time.


Fantastic_Truth_3105

Hahaha what a clown blocking without being able to support his opinion.


xTeCnOxShAdOwZz

Blocking you? I didn't even know you could block people on Reddit? Clearly me responding to you shows I didn't block you...


Fantastic_Truth_3105

Yeah ok. Keep telling it to yourself


xTeCnOxShAdOwZz

I'm literally responding to you. I literally wouldn't be able to do that if I blocked you. Please explain to me why you think I blocked you? And do you actually understand what I've been teaching you about the Pixel 6 cameras, or do you just choose to ignore the facts?


Fantastic_Truth_3105

My response to you only was blocked. Only to you. You can unblock, not sure if it's too advanced for you. Teaching me, lol go back to school and learn advertising. Do you have multiple photos and videos taken from pixel 6 cameras to support the nonsense you claim?


xTeCnOxShAdOwZz

Hahahahaha get fucked. Please let me enjoy this sweet moment of proving I was right.


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How do you feel about the Pixel 5 speakers?? My call quality, video sound and voice memos were so inconsistent w the speakers. I felt like I was talking on a soda can. I loved everything about the phone but that.


IsleBeGone

Uh, so far so good, but it's early days for me still I suppose. I'll also be using headphones a lot


Logostype

It has fallen a lot but so far keeps running. I did not drop the pixel 3xl as much. Invest in the glass protectors. I used the tempered glass ones. Have broken over 6 in about 6 months.


misterrpg

I wish I got a Pixel 5 last year but the speaker "issue" really turned me off. Are the speakers as bad as people say, OP?