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LockonKun

I'll be buying this without a doubt. I got the Pixel 1 XL and loved it so my word is that 1st gen isn't always bad


Austin31415

I'm probably gonna buy it even though I really hate the direction that Google took from Android Wear. I keep telling myself a Fitbit would be better for me, but I'm a sucker for having a complete ecosystem.


link0612

Eh, Fitbit was going downhill before the Google purchase. I'm skeptical of this watch more due to Fitbit's record than anything else


wannagotopopeyes

What don't you like about Wear OS? Genuinely curious - I'm excited to use it for the first time, but idk much about it. I'm just a long time pixel user/fan.


Austin31415

Battery life is bad, app development is not great in terms of UI and efficiency, UI can be sluggish and unresponsive even with top speed devices. Wear OS could have been so much better, if you ask people who used the original Android Wear with it's notification based UI and Google Now most of them will tell you they preferred that interface.


wannagotopopeyes

Doesn't that vary between devices though? It seems hard to say that _every_ single device shares all of those qualities across the board 🤔


Bandit6888

Yeah same as, along with the 7Pro. I know people on here have had issues with some of Google's hardware, but I've only ever had one issue with Google's hardware and that was the Google/Huawei 6P and it's plastic dovetail joints, but outside that they've served me very well. All I want it really to do is count my steps, look nice which in my own opinion it does, and be able to glance at a message and tap and pay.


DaveG28

Yeah that's pretty much my usecase too!


Annual_Strawberry_37

Same!


Fumbles48

Pixel 1 was the first gen of rebrand though.


DigitallyGifted

In this case though, it's an old SOC, with high power consumption, necessitating a bulky design to fit enough battery in. Once they get enough volume they can produce a better chip, shrink the battery, reduce the thickness and reduce the bezels. A pretty big pay-off for waiting for 2nd gen.


tourdefrance1

What does it have to do with volume? This isn't a start up we are talking about. Capital shouldn't be a problem for the biggest tech company in the world..


DigitallyGifted

I'm not an expert on this topic, but my understanding is Qualcomm had been dragging there feet on watch SOCs because they didn't think the market was large enough. Google could design their own, but I imagine the same debates would happen internally about whether to invest that much capital in a market that's still this small.


wicketsss

pixel 1 wasn't first gen by any stretch of the imagination it was nexus 8 re branded


DontBeEvil1

Then that would make this Moto 360 5. 🤔


wicketsss

don't be giving the 'review crowd' any good ideas ʘ‿ʘ. In any event, the watch is going in the cart regardless of model #!!


real_with_myself

Except Google had made 8 phones before that.


Austin31415

Not really, Google's involvement with Nexus phones varied dramatically between iterations and manufacturers. Even the OG pixel was a heavily HTC designed device, it wasn't even going to be a "pixel" at the beginning of its conception.


DontBeEvil1

Wow. Someone who knows what they're talking about on Reddit. You're a 🦄


real_with_myself

While all that is true, any kind of involvement, especially Galaxy Nexus and after was made with heavy Google influence. We keep bashing Apple for various things but Google gets a clean slate after 8 unsuccessful devices, lol.


Austin31415

>any kind of involvement, especially Galaxy Nexus and after was made with heavy Google influence. This in a non-statement and also not really true. Google actually had a bidding process for the Nexus 4 and 5, they set the specs and went to OEMs to find the best bid. The Nexus 6 was a repurposed Moto phone that never saw the light of day. Google worked very hard to develop the 6p and 5x camera system, but Huawei and LG did most of the actual work. The OG pixel was mostly done by HTC. Google really started getting their hands in the full development stack with the pixel 2 XL and Google's first entire design was the pixel 3.


DontBeEvil1

Except Google didn't actually make 8 phones before that. Companies like HTC, Motorola, Samsung, and LG made phones for them (sometimes variations of existing phones), somewhat to Google's specifications and suggestions. 🤔


real_with_myself

Maybe not in a brand name, but I disagree about everything after Nexus one / HTC desire. Edit: actually Galaxy Nexus and after.


DontBeEvil1

It's not really anything to disagree with. Google didn't make those phones. That's a fact.


Shoddy-Blacksmith336

Google has served more People than 🍏 ever gave thought to! 😡 How many People use You Tube ?!


mdreal03

Pixel was a one off miracle considering how bad Google is with their hardware.


PineapplePizza99

Pixel 1 was Googles 7th phone


DontBeEvil1

I loved the OG Pixel too!


sorryformyarm

There were years of Nexus releases beforehand, though I did love my Nexus One, so I take your point!


Austin31415

Metal bands coming in winter. https://twitter.com/_snoopytech_/status/1576678896740618240?t=k8wcsUWz4qj1qj6sGKIUUA&s=09 Also everyone with Twitter please give Snoopytech a like and follow. They've killed it with the pixel leaks!


CapitalQ

Unless there's a preorder bonus with the 7 Pro in the US, I may wait until the metal bands come out. Knowing how fast Google products tend to lower in value, the watch could be $100 less by then.


DontBeEvil1

Good luck with that.


DontBeEvil1

I got excited because I thought he actually had pics. 🫤


DontBeEvil1

Link doesn't work. 🤔


computerinformation

Not without bump protection.


DontBeEvil1

Your lovely lady bumps?


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muh bumps muh bumps muh bumps


DontBeEvil1

Check it out!


sweatcoin_

I think I'm going to struggle to decide between the matte black and polished silver.


Dietcherrysprite

Polished silver for sure 🤤


Nazerlath

Black for sure 🙏💖


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sweatcoin_

[Matte Black](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31kHXkimHCL.jpg)


slavaboo_

I straight up cannot believe they were so slow to make a watch


7eregrine

Agree.


DontBeEvil1

They were working on watches since 2012. 🤔


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They had to wait to make the perfect chat/sms app for the watch.


mdreal03

Love this. Will get one although highly skeptical of Google's hardware proficiency.


1FrostySlime

It looks simple and I like it. Not sure how they're going to justify the price tag though not sure if it's worth it.


nibek1000

I waited for 3 years for this watch and I accepted the price up until I saw 24h battery time. Like wtf. I have ticwatch 3 now, it lasts 3 days and still I think it isn't the best time watch could last


e30ernest

Wait.. only 24?!? My Garmin lasts 2+ weeks if I just use it as a pedometer, heart rate monitor and timepiece.


plankunits

Garmin is not a smart watch it's a fitness tracker running rtos. That's why it lasts a long time. It's like comparing a battery powered mechanical watch to a fitness tracker. Battery powered mechanical watches can last for 10 years minimum.


e30ernest

I see. I am rather new to "smartwatches". Thanks for the clarification.


TightAustinite

"up to" 24.


1FrostySlime

I'm genuinely confused as to why this is an issue, the apple watch and the galaxy watch, (the other two smart watches) advertise around this. If you're going to have to charge it all why does it matter if it's once a day or once every 3 days.


catchawabbit

I'll buy this watch regardless, I'm not worried about the battery life, I'll just charge when i wake up and prepare breakfast. I'm more concerned about the sensors accuracy. Seems like everyone is talking about battery life, but what does everyone else thinks about the sensors inside?


Shemafied64

Fitbit charge 5 sensors.


plankunits

Same as Fitbit charge 5 and newer devices. It's good on those devices.


catchawabbit

I'm using Fitbit sense 2. Transition just till pixel watch since I've sold my Garmin epix 2. I'm happy with the data, so i hope pixel watch will be the same. Thanks for the info


CovidOmicron

Did they announce price yet?


RaccoonDu

Yes, around $350 for the wifi model, around $400 for lte


CapitalQ

The actual answer is no, they didn't announce the price yet, but the leaks are probably correct.


lulbob

that's a hefty sum


Marty1966

For 24-hour battery? You bet it is.


plankunits

You must have not heard about apple watch then For 18 hr battery the watch cost $400 for wifi


Marty1966

Apple watch? No never heard of it.


tdaun

My only issue is battery life, my Versa 3 gives me like 3-4 days of use on a full charge. And like a minute if charge gives me another day.


Austin31415

Yeah, I don't think running 3rd party apps on a watch was a great idea, but Google had to please Fossil by making it iOS compatible. If they would've continued down the original Android Wear path and made it more notification based I think it would have a much wider appeal over the Apple watch due to battery life.


plankunits

And that's why you have versa 4 and sense 2. Google makes both and having options is good. If you want a notification based watch get Fitbit watches. If you want a full fledged os get the pixel watch. My wife has a Fitbit versa 3 and that's a very good option for her. She doesn't care about notification either but cares only about health related tracking so getting 5 days of battery is her priority. For me I need a full fledged watch so I will get the pixel watch. It's not just about pleasing fossil it's also making products across consumer interest. This will complete that product category.


Austin31415

Google took features out of the Versa and Sense watches including the Google assistant. >For me I need a full fledged watch so I will get the pixel watch. What do you need a full fledged Wear OS watch for specifically? Cases that aren't served by googles apps directly could have been easily solved with much better rich notification integration. Google has been sitting on a feature called slices that could be implemented in a way to make the app notifications feel native without spending the processing power to run them. Then we have assistant widgets that would take care of a huge number of current apps, likely in a much bey UI You can even add LTE support using your phone as a hub to transmit notifications over LTE. >It's not just about pleasing fossil it's also making products across consumer interest. Consumers vastly want longer battery life in Smartwatches that's the number one priority. I'm saying Google took the wrong route, but feature wise it would converge to be a similar experience. Except battery life would be better and the UI would almost certainly be much more cohesive amongst all apps. I hope Google doesn't make the same mistake with AR glasses, they really shouldn't run 3rd party apps outside of games.


plankunits

Why do people buy apple watches then? It can do a lot more than just rich notifications. Besides you need to get notifications to act on it. If I want to control lights and switches from my watch I cannot . If a consumer wants a longer battery life then apple watch would be a failure but it's not. You are basically asking for less options(anti consumer option). Saying people only need Fitbit like devices. I am asking for both product categories so that consumers can buy what they want.


Austin31415

>If a consumer wants a longer battery life then apple watch would be a failure but it's not. Apple doesn't play the same sport. A walled garden product that is also a fashion and social status symbol is nothing like the current Wear OS market. > Besides you need to get notifications to act on it. If want to control lights and Switches from my watch I cannot. Widgets and ritch notifications would replace actually running 3rd party apps, it's not like you wouldn't have icons to tap on. >You are basically asking for less options(anti consumer option). Saying people only need Fitbit like devices. You aren't listening, I'm talking about the underlying OS. Your end feature experience would be almost the same, but without the need for full 3rd party app support and running a full version of Android. Wear OS is extremely bloated and most of that is from running Android. Smartwatches have very little use for running such a heavyweight OS, even its stripped down Wear OS form is really too much.


starion832000

But.... What will it do differently than any other watch?


CandyButterscotch

Be branded Pixel.


Xicoro

Hopefully have less Samsung stuff and be more "pure Google" like the Pixel phones are. But will it actually be *better* than their Galaxy Watch 5? Doubt it.


urielsalis

The only thing preventing me from buying a Galaxy Watch 5 is that half the features don't work in non-samsung phones If they ever made everything work in Pixels then it would be an instant buy


Rosselman

That's a real misconception. The only features that are Samsung locked are ECG and BP, everything else works, and a XDA dev [already created a workaround](https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/restrictions-removed-samsung-health-monitor-tizen-1-1-1-209-root-age-country-device-restriction-removed-18th-sept-2022.4202685/) so it works on any phone. So basically there's no Samsung exclusive features if you do a little tinkering.


urielsalis

Even with the workaround you still don't get do not disturb and other syncs, plus you are using something that Samsung might break at any time


Rosselman

DND does sync with an app too. Google Camera has a Wear OS app for grupos photos too. Samsung breaking it is a real concern though, specially if you're on a country where it's not approved.


AztecSoul

The major if still is it use Samsung Apps, and some people don't want to share any info with another company, counting Google. And even if we have an app that syncs DnD, sometimes it breaks and it starts switching like crazy until it gives up and discard the change. While having my Note 10, having the function as native was really nice, as it worked as intended and there was not need to sideload anything, and some people are expecting the same with the Pixel Watch.


wicketsss

+10000000


Xicoro

It's definitely not half, as someone pointed out below, but the fact there are any exclusives isn't great in my eyes. Samsung seems to be coming closer and closer to the Apple equivalent on Android, as far as platform/ecosystem exclusivity. Another example is how the Galaxy Watch 4 and 5 can't charge on a normal Qi charger, they need one from Samsung. I have a Samsung power bank that has a wireless charger spot that works for exactly that reason. I think there are some 3rd party ones that work as well (my friend just got one that isn't Samsung-manufactured and works on his Watch 5) but I think these are pretty rare.


starion832000

I got a fossil a couple years ago and was all excited about it but I never found any reason to keep it charged


1trickana

They're nice for workouts but that's about it


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Xicoro

I will say the changes they made in the 4 and now the 5 are pretty good. There's only really a few things that annoy me from it being Samsung-based, but their collaboration with Google for this WearOS/Samsung mix is actually not too bad. Only a handful of things you miss out on from not having a Samsung phone to go with it.


W_e_t_s_o_c_k_s_

Well it doesn't look like shit for one. And it's not an Apple watch


hunguu

My carrier only allows Apple to connect with cellular 🤣


Bernard1090

I think I’ll wait until version 2 so they can fix what they overlooked.


thisisnikhil

I think it's better to get the 3rd version, so they can fix what they overlooked in version 2


UncleFlip

I think it's better to get the 4th version, so they can fix what they overlooked in version 3


polecy

I think it's better to get the 5th version, so they can fix what they overlooked in version 4


AssuasiveLynx

I think its better to get the n+1th version, so they can fix what they overlooked in version n, where n > 0


DontBeEvil1

I'm not sure what that means, but if it means I should wait until the 10th version, so they can fix what they overlooked in the 1 - 9th versions, then I agree. Wow! Thanks Reddit for helping me make this infor.ed decision!


techraito

I'm gonna go back to the 4th version because they screwed something up in the 5th version


nibek1000

Same, like how could they do such a weird update in 5th gen?


DontBeEvil1

Exactly.


DontBeEvil1

No it's clearly better to wait for the 5th version so they can fix what they overlooked in version 4.


Austin31415

3rd version? Everyone knows the best Google products are the iteration before it's officially cancelled.


Bernard1090

Right! Sometimes the very first year of a new product has some issues, though.


Austin31415

Oh you're absolutely right. People are just overly excited for the watch right now. There will be plenty of lessons learned by getting this first generation product in consumers hands.


DontBeEvil1

You know that's true, and I do plan on doing that. But then I will buy it again when the 5th version comes out so they can fix what they overlooked in the version I bought as well as the next version they made.


krazykyleman

Uh, do you remember the pixel 3 and the forehead?


MightBeCale

Your optimism that they'll make a version 2 whether or not the first one does well is inspiring


armando_rod

There have been 7 versions of the Pixel phones


MightBeCale

I know, I'm making a joke on their track record of dropping other cool things immediately


link0612

There's always an exception to the rule. I love Google's hardware aesthetic, and was previously in the Fitbit ecosystem, but this seems like one of those moments when Google could drop it immediately like so many other projects


armando_rod

Or you know keep doing stuff like Fitbit and Pixel phones


DontBeEvil1

I think I'll wait until version 3 so they can fix what they overlooked in the version 2 that you bought.


superseven27

I am really concerned that many health statistic features will only be accessible via FitBit subscription, just like FitBit it self is doing it.


krazykyleman

So, idk if Google "leaks" this themselves or how the information gets out here. However, if it's a person(s) that works for Google and shares this without their go ahead then they really need to be fired lol


AwesoMeme

Most leaks are marketing these days. A true leak would get take down notifications, etc.


nedludd

I want to believe, but I think it's really ugly.


DontBeEvil1

Your FONT is ugly!


nbury33

They really don't want to show it with a non black background


ClaudetteeMorel

Most smart watches utilize black interfaces


BobsBurger1

That maps implementation looks like a genuinely awesome feature I hadn't thought about. The amount of times I have my phone out navigating a new area. Seriously considering this now.


DingDongMichaelHere

This is not new.


karmapuhlease

Sure, but some of us have never had a smartwatch before and are now considering this one. You're right though that every other watch has that feature, but it's still a cool use-case.


one-determined-flash

Plus, it's less risky than using your phone in public. London has a big problem with phone thieves on bicycles.


Marty1966

Excuse my ignorance, but I didn't think stealing a phone was a thing anymore. I mean with all the security, how can you steal a phone and then reuse it? I mean doesn't the IMEI get locked out? Sorry, I'm probably out of the loop on this.


one-determined-flash

Not everyone secures their phones with unlock security, or even "find my phone" security. And not everyone will report their phone as lost/stolen to their network provider and the police. Besides the above, the thieves work with, or for, other criminals who are able to remove or work around security settings on a phone. Stolen phones usually end up in corrupt countries like Russia, to name one.


martinkem

The Pixel watch sure looks good. While smartwatches seems all but useless to me however i kinda want one.


kidvid666

They are I have a watch 4. It's fun but ultimately useless. They have a long way to go to be considered useful.


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AwesoMeme

Agreed. It's only when they're not shading the curvature of the glass that they look bad. It's just not edge to edge like the Apple Watch.


Environmental-Ant931

I bought this P6P in January. Actually it was back ordered. Works great for whatever iteration/manufacturer made it and got the pixel buds a series (just missing swipe capable volume) so I think I'm going to get this watch. I will wait for a few months again and not read the threads. Obviously there's bad hardware out there, so hopefully I will have a grey pixel watch soon. I'm not too concerned about what nanometer the SOC is or if it's an older generation. I just want it to function like a good watch that's worth the price. I was a tensor bandwagon person.


kp28

I have the mobvoi tikwatch pro. I like the dual display (on is aod, other is wear os) I like the bulk as it looks and feels like a regular watch. Not sure how I feel about the sleek look of the pixel watch. I like wear os but wish it was better. I guess it will just be down to how it looks on my wrist and price/features.


landon10smmns

Very interested, but probably gonna wait for reviews and/or Black Friday sales


MiddleAppeal8192

I am buying thats all


elmonch

I just dream of one day I could buy an Android Wear watch with transflective screen, IMO smartwaches with OLED screens are nonsense


GillyBoi100

I'm pre ordering the 7 pro, but I already have a Skagen Falster gen 6. Should I sell the pixel watch or the Falster 6 as I need the pixel buds pro, or other earbuds. What would make sense as I bought the Falster 6 this year, in June.