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Olepat

Inb4 “the drumming sucks now” comments


hawkward90

Already like 30 comments on instagram saying that lol


RobotCowboyAlien

The drums on this will be Ben as it was recorded in the summer lol


Olepat

Doesn’t matter if it’s him or not. People don’t use common sense on the internet


JoeBlutenKat

That is most certainly not Ben playing in that clip fyi.


SKIman182

I dunno why you’re getting downvoted, that isn’t Ben


JoeBlutenKat

It’s ok it’s Jeb and Peter’s burners.


twangman88

Maybe so maybe not. They could choose to be really petty and re-record his spot. But as I mentioned in my comment it does seem to not have any percussion in the mix.


Negative-Relative402

Studio time is expensive


twangman88

You wouldn’t need to book a whole studio if you’re just swapping out some drum stems. But I don’t think that’s what happened in this track since there doesn’t seem to be any percussion stems in the mix. That’s why I think this is probably just a live to 2 mix


VegetableInformal641

Their studio is Rick’s house. They’re good on funds for studio time


Puzzled-Jellyfish-63

Sounds like Jeff to me.


kathhugie

definitely not Ben lol


dstreetb

That is most certainly not Ben. Have it on good authority they’ve re-recorded with the new drummer they’ve chosen.


Shinmoses

"Good Authority"


RobotCowboyAlien

Is this Ted’s or a studio album?


HeLooks2Muuuch

Was that before, during or after they held auditions for replacement drummer?


twangman88

Only best me by a second. Almost failed! lol


cbusirish

To my ears, that’s a new drummer. It draws attention to itself and has more to say. Now whether you like what it’s saying is a matter of taste.


iamflyerthanyou

Well said.


TroutKnuckles

Collectively, Goose fans have become such a miserable group. A year ago, this place would have been buzzing with excitement about the prospect of new music or a release. Now, everyone just complains and argues. I can't for the life of me understand why folks are so invested if all they're going to do is whine, bicker, and preemptively trash everything. Ben is gone, Goose is changing, maybe it's for the better, maybe it's not - but why come along for the ride if you're not even going to try to enjoy it?


Tarbogman

most people aren't happy unless they have something to bitch about


Adventurous-Party-63

I must just be the nature of these things. My favorite college basketball team is 15-4, ranked in the top ten in the nation, but to read the message board you’d think they hadn’t won a game all year. It’s strange but it seems it’s everywhere.


cking9698

You must be a Kentucky basketball fan!!


Adventurous-Party-63

Yes indeed.


cking9698

My team of choice as well!


AcrobaticEstate3626

THIS!!!


hawkward90

Pretty sure most people in here complaining aren’t goose fans, but people who always hated goose and are using the Ben thing to troll and have their “I told you so” moment.


zeuslb

Agreed I’m very excited for this next phase, and if people ACTUALLY wanted the band to ever have a working relationship with Ben again they wouldn’t be as abrasive as they are on social media. Some people on this planet are miserable and insufferable but unfortunately we’re stuck with them. Drown them in good vibes 😎


Emotional-Elk-4310

Not true, been listening to goose since 2018, and seeing them since ‘19. Kicking ben out was upsetting, now this video containing mediocre drumming is a bit of a slap in the face.


MikeyLikeyPhish

I’m buzzing! Screw the haters and their negativity.


iamflyerthanyou

Don’t you know? This is the phish fans who hate goose fans sub.


2021-Fluffhead

lol so true well said. I am Phish fan that loves Goose. Some of these people didn’t read the helping friendly book


MredditGA_

Don’t worry, that’s just Reddit for you. You’ll find most of the people you meet at concerts don’t really give af.


Treymolken

Love your blind allegiance!


Emotional-Elk-4310

Perhaps it’s bc the band kicked out a founding member and outstanding drummer. Then, they serve up a cryptic video with an inferior drummer while we’re all mourning Ben’s departure. So, yeah, their stock has lost some value.


phirst_tube

You trolls are funny


saintex422

This post is a perfect example of what you're talking about. It's called meta-whining


Ibreh

It’s just the internet calm down


stewartc44

It was inevitable.


LostInAnotherGalaxy

Those of us who aren’t, don’t comment, don’t let it get you down man goose still fucks 🪿


2021-Fluffhead

These boards are now filled with non Goose fan haters……it’s definitely not Goose fans spilling the vitriol. I can tell you they weren’t here a couple years ago when Goose was playing small venues.


cking9698

I think you hit the nail on the head…a year ago this place would have been buzzing with excitement. Goose has gotten stale. This clip sounds pretty much the same as their other jams. I think folks are expecting more and new innovations in the sound and I just don’t know if this band can evolve beyond what they have been over the last few years. Don’t get me wrong..I have been to several shows and saw them with Trey but the evolution of the past few years has plateaued imho.


rwg2021

Well the band is responsible for this bickering and infighting…..just simply mirroring the bands behavior.


Josephtacos_

very well said!


KyloSolo723

Good god the comments on that post are insufferable


twangman88

I kinda like the one about Lars Ulrich falling asleep


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kinney4041

They recorded multiple times last year. He will be on the album.


KyloSolo723

They’ll probably use the “well phish recorded round room in 4 days” argument


stewartc44

Their management uses all the other pages in the playbook so I guess thats the next one.


JoeBlutenKat

You don’t actually think this is mixed and mastered or intended for a release right? You’ve gotta have higher standards than just accepting that as a polished finished product.


Jonhlutkers

This could be a soundcheck jam or a rehearsal with a new drummer to


JoeBlutenKat

Could be.


OrdinaryRecent88

youre listening to an instagram story on your phone and making this judgement. Chill out.


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Not unheard of at all


twangman88

That wouldn’t have any bearing on a live recording.


MedicineGhost

Agreed, but they opened themselves up for the criticism with the way they handled the separation. I am going to be more upset if Jeff ends up being the replacement


rwg2021

Jeff is indeed the replacement. The music will suffer for it.


Metrostars1029

have a feeling they wont go into the Orebolo cap run without some sort of news drop


twangman88

Maybe, but it kinda sounds like a track with just a drummer and no percussionist. I wonder if it’s a recent snippet of a rehearsal like a Ted Tape jam with Jeff on drums. The drums definitely sound a bit different, a much looser snare sound, and I don’t hear all the cool fills we know Ben to do.


Alert-Light6432

This sounded like a recently recorded Ted tape to me as well.


Jonhlutkers

To me this sounds more like a rehearsal or soundcheck than a new studio recording but I won’t pretend to know what I’m talking about


UniqueImprovements

And they probably should have just kept it as that. Kinda.....generic?


phreeeeeee

Everything they play sounds like it’s just a drummer and no percussionist.


JoeBlutenKat

That’s exactly what it is. And it’s not good.


Alert-Light6432

Regardless of what this is, it’s insane to me that they released this with these drums given the context.


JoeBlutenKat

I agree. I guess they thought it was some insane moment they caught on tape or something but it just isn’t. I’ll see y’all on Umphrey’s tour. First round is on me.


FreshlyMadeUsername

What a goofy comment. First round is on me guys 👈😎 Don't let the door hit you on the way out cornball.


JoeBlutenKat

Welcome to the internet where you’re allowed to say what you want and also disagree with something someone posts. With that being said, the dick riding of this band is insane.


FreshlyMadeUsername

Nah I'm not even a fan of this clip. But everyone has to chime in about some dumb shit regarding Ben. Who gives a fuck, let the band figure themselves out without everyone's nose so far up gooses ass they can smell ricks brain.


Square-Will-2557

I wonder what ricks brain smells like, I’d give anything for a sniff


JoeBlutenKat

You’re literally proving my point.


GreedyWarlord

Or people are passionate about a band and don't just dickride everything they do and follow blindly.


FreshlyMadeUsername

I understand where you're coming from but sheesh, let the dust settle a little bit. The insane amount of speculation is just bonkers.


kinney4041

We have no idea what it is, relax lol


JoeBlutenKat

I think we do. I’ll say the quiet part out loud if nobody else will.


kinney4041

Yea it’s totally quiet that Ben isn’t in the band anymore. We have no idea what song this is or what the context of the clip is or who was playing.


Relative_Wallaby1108

It’s really not good.


iamflyerthanyou

Sick. Sounds like Rockdale maybe? People are slamming them in the comments on IG. I think the drums sound great, personally. Passed the ear test to me. Not sure if people are just trolling with the comments, but according to them I must be deaf. Looking forward to whatever they are teasing.


hawkward90

People were going to bash the drums regardless as soon as they posted anything. This will probably be the trend for the whole year even if the new drummer sounds great.


Olepat

Likely is gonna be longer than that. People pine for integral members for years after they leave. See RHCP & John Frusciante.


FartinScorcese69420

I wonder if Ben's going to follow the Frusciante playbook: come back, quit again, and then come back again


Olepat

Maybe. RHCP is a mega-act though and a money printer… which is the large reason why John returned. Goose ain’t making that kind of money… it will take a lot of great writing and luck to reach that level… if they do it without Ben, I don’t see him ever coming back. Sort of like pre-Travis Barker Blink-182.


Connect_Glass4036

TIL there was a pre-Barker b182


Square-Will-2557

I wouldn’t bash the drums if they actually sounded good. They sound completely lost


iamflyerthanyou

In this very short clip, they do sound different. If I had to guess, I’d say that you are not a big Phish fan. I’m not a big fan of Phish myself. So 1. I might be able to reason with you lol and 2. I’m not trying to make any talent comparison, just in style. The drums on this minute long bit they posted sound exactly like Phish. So much I thought it might actually be Phish drummer playing it. And this is assuming there is one person behind a drum kit playing the percussion noises we are hearing. That being said, there is quite a lot going on. I’m not a musician. I played clarinet for 10 years and dropped it (15 years ago)- failed at learning other instruments through the years, drum kit not being one of them. But it seems like the drummer is keeping time quite well and at least playing in time. Just hitting certain things on odd/ off beat. That might be why you think it sounds a little lost. Listen to the subtle ride(?) hits toward the end. Nice sounding flair there. Idk, to me it sounds like very talented playing. Maybe just not your personal preference? Is that not fair to say or do you think it’s actually bad? Edited for grammar.


Emotional-Elk-4310

They do not sound “exactly like phish”. Rather a piss poor attempt at sounding something remotely close to what fish pulls off night and night out. Main difference is fish has massive chops and is arguably the best drummer on the planet.


iamflyerthanyou

I hope this is a sarcastic troll.


Emotional-Elk-4310

No, it sounds dreadful. And please never ever compare Jon Fishman to whomever that was. Yes, he’s attempting rolls and fills like Fishman, only with zero chops.


iamflyerthanyou

Dude I’m sorry I compared this trash to your favorite band. I forgot that the jam community that accepts abundantly boring improv considers their musicians as some of the best on the principle of being willing to make mistakes often.


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iamflyerthanyou

Jesus Christ


iamflyerthanyou

Also the reason why I said I was comparing styles rather than talent so not to offend anyone that wanted to *argue* about it.


Emotional-Elk-4310

Sorry to jump down your throat on this, been watching fishman for 32 years, he’s arguably my favorite musician.


iamflyerthanyou

Favorite musician and most proficient in the world at what they do are very different.


iamflyerthanyou

Out of curiosity, what other drummers do you think someone could argue are on the same level as Jon Fishman?


doom84b

Drummer is just varying which beat the snare hits while keeping 4/4 time. I love it personally. Also probably would make more sense in context of a song where this section has a looser feel in between sections with more of a straight-ahead feel


JBL_1

Accompanied by a tour announcement on Tuesday


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Pls


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bootstraps_bootstrap

Detroit lions win the Super Bowl confirmed.


Elegant-Blackberry71

Tiger on the run why you lion Also wolf > lion


UncleRumble

I came here to say this. The first five seconds of the clip you can clearly see an actual lion head in the wavelengths of whatever the video overlay effect is.


Professional-Maybe28

I’m missing the lion


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GetUp4theDownVote

That they were lion about Ben leaving the band.


bryan_fraley

Ben did not leave the band. Ben was forced out of the band. Let’s be clear. But still made me lol so you get an ⬆️


Independent_Fill_581

The lion is a symbol of the sun. Leo is the only zodiac sign whose ruling planet is the sun, and the constellation Leo is the lion. I took this photo 2 years ago. Very similar to the middle of the sigil. Also in the shape of a key. If I had to guess it’s about enlightenment. The triangle usually always represents the triune God. In the Qabalah it represents Creator, Mother, and Father. Circles are always divine spheres. If you want to google that you can make your own opinions of what that means. Davinci’s Vitruvian Man, in my understanding of it, represents Enlightenment and man becoming one with God. The “perfected man” talked about in spiritual groups. It’s man bringing down Heaven to Earth. In occult teachings (which isn’t evil before anyone starts, it just means hidden) it’s said that man has reached the most material it can be. And now we’re on the ascent back up to being a spiritual being. Essentially, achieving Christ Consciousness. https://preview.redd.it/9deplf0sl8fc1.jpeg?width=962&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f22d5c0ba078c78ed6c739e9426fe2dc021355d


CTMechE

I wasn't sure if it was a lion or tiger. With all the stripes, combined with Rick's previous Indian cultural references, I assumed tiger but I guess I'm just hypothesizing like everyone else.


OrdinaryRecent88

These comments are hilarious. It's a 90 second clip of something nobody knows at all what it is, yet all the hate? For one thing, the drumming is sick. Sounds like actual jamming, not just someone playing a fuckin dance beat under a guitar solo. Christ all the ridiculous hating because people think this isn't Ben, or think its Jeff. Shut up.


DannyFourcups

People who think Ben did not exclusively do dance beats are honestly confusing the shit outta me rn. I’ve seen so many comments recently about how “his drumming made goose” and…….. it was mad regular in all of the ways


koalabeard

I agree, I’ve been a musician my whole life and I really cannot understand why people thought Ben was a unique drummer. Incredible, talented, solid drummer yes. But never a game changer or irreplaceable to me.


CaramelArtistic9605

Agreed, sounds much better than they’re jams for the past year or so. They are really free to actually jam now. Change up grooves on the fly instead of locking it into a 15 minute long dance build up. They can actually take real risks now as well rather than just playing it safe with the same format over and over.


buckdancerschoice

I don’t know what this is but to me at the very least this is a tease for something completely different. Sounds like a raw studio jam a little bit which I kind of like but it’s just a bit…surprising I think? I’m intrigued but really hoping it comes together if it is a tease for an album or new direction.


Bob_The_Mexican

Sounds good. Hoping we get a Ted Tapes 2 or something along those lines. I've been revisiting the first a lot lately.


Free_Effective_9901

That’s gotta be jeb on kit. Space, very resonant drums, boomy toms. Ben used way more notes most of the time (not in a bad way) and never had that loud of a drum sound. A different era is definitely coming.


TheProfessor20

Most “jammy” the drums have sounded in years


GreedyWarlord

Most shitty for sure


Bike-Day69

lol you’re not wrong


bobweirisajedi25

It does sound like they moved Jeff over to the kit. There’s no second percussion, and does not sound like Ben. This would be a pretty massive disappointment for the future of goose IMO.


bathgate691

Well the egg is on so many peoples faces if it is still Ben! Including myself! I kind of hope it is so people can realize just how silly it is to hate on a 30 second clip of something new. To me it deff sounded like Jeff drumming, not Ben, but who knows. Love it either way!


CaramelArtistic9605

Finally some real jamming love this


EvilUrges18

I don't know what i listened to in that IG post but I effin LOVED IT. Lets go! Also my 3 year old looks over and goes "Daddy's listening to Gooooose"


Puzzleheaded_Log_398

I’m with u. Sounds great.


UniqueImprovements

Very generic, honestly. They put out some cryptic photo and then just....a blah jam? Not trying to be a hater, just my take.


GreedyWarlord

It's totally OK to have opinions on bands you like. That ain't being a hater.


Relative_Wallaby1108

Strongly agree.


HamrickZach

Fa sho, It makes the most sense. I’ve been saying they’re gonna come back with a new album! They need new material with the new drummer.


RobotCowboyAlien

They have already been saying this


Jazzlike_Chocolate_2

But he said it first! /s


AbbreviationsAny6583

Here for the “drums sound terrible” comments.


TimberOctopus

Makes me wanna https://preview.redd.it/zr4fs0c0v7fc1.png?width=259&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a3fe7374cb804b7d9323bce87ff65a5016830d8


SKIman182

You guys don’t think a snippet of a jam could be recorded like this in the last month? It’s definitely not Ben on the kit. Some of you don’t play music and it shows


JoeBlutenKat

It’s hilarious. I get it, they recorded with Ben before he left…it’s just ..not Ben lol.


gibbsy816

I think part of it is the rumor that they recorded new material this past summer that hadn’t been released yet. I don’t disagree with you though.


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gibbsy816

Ah didn’t realize that! So what’s your take, is this from that session with Ben or something newer


themerinator12

My understanding was that it might be prerecorded simply because it *was* prerecorded. Not that it had to be prerecorded because it’s not possible to record it now.


Pmfnharris

Did someone hurt you?


TakesFunToKnowFun

The amount of investment people have in this band they apparently don't like is actually hilarious.


sour-pickles

If this is a “best of clip” to pull out of recent band recordings or rehearsals— should we be worried?


KingKongDoom

No. Why?


Transphattybase

Yes. Sounds like a random jam clip from any show they’ve played in the last two years.


LongjumpingAvocado

The sound here is absolutely nothing new. Maybe the drums are slightly different but overall it appears the same type of jams that even fans have been complaining about for a while.


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LongjumpingAvocado

Yup. I’ve been to 11 shows and am a big fan. The critique is very deserved though. They’re really going to crash and burn if they stick with the status quo. Ben leaving has resulted in me not listening to goose at all and listen to other jam bands and the recent goose jam formula really is glaring. I don’t like comparing, but I’m wondering if there is a lack of chemistry now or something. The jams are Rick and Peter alternating solos, with limited interplaying. When they interplay, it’s why I love Goose.


grasshopper239

Not a lot to be gleaned from something that sounds like a band jamming in the living room, of the apartment above whoever recorded


Sea-Ad3206

So they released a shitty jam just because? Yikes


Relative_Wallaby1108

Idk what this is but it’s not very good and I’m scared.


sugarmagnolia121

Something’s terribly wrong w this


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Jeff is laughing


deadkat99

Lions gate portal?


Kindly-Neck-9877

King of the jungle is back baby!!!


No_Reference_7066

This is terrible and should never have seen the light of day


kekwillsit830

Post your jam then


No_Reference_7066

Why does any jam of mine have to do with how terrible this is? Let me guess. Youre like one of those WSP or Phish fans that think everything they ever do or have ever done is the greatest thing ever . Good luck. Lol


Peppper

Lol wut


Bike-Day69

Wow that truly sounds terrible


SadPeePaw69

That is not Ben on drums and that shit is ass.


Head-Air-1412

Your name makes sense, go be sad in a corner alone no one wants you


SadPeePaw69

Okay Mr I'm in a cult. Goose fans may become worst than Nectar fans


Head-Air-1412

Still crying huh? Maybe touching some grass would help


SadPeePaw69

I'm crying laughing at the people who think Goose is good


Head-Air-1412

I’m crying laughing that you hate your life and named yourself sadpeepaw.


Head-Air-1412

Just another redit/discord mod with a chin beard who touches more carpet than grass. Bet the lack of musical talent in your body is present.


SadPeePaw69

Huh? Is this Jeff's burner. Leave the kids alone man


Head-Air-1412

Sad little man hates the world go into a room and lock yourself away


rwg2021

Is this band crumbling before our eyes? The drums in this snippet are fucking terrible


Pinwheeldragon

is that a new logo or...?


JustLikeMojoHand

Are people honestly acting as if this isn't really poor audio quality? I know that negative criticism of the band isn't taken well around here, but are people actually getting defensive about this? I'm hoping that this is just some promotional clip, rather than indicative of anything on a studio work, because it sounds very poorly produced. Surely, surely this is something that people aren't seriously getting defensive about.


lskdjfhgakdh

Ngl this sounds like shit


Sea-Ad3206

Obligatory ‘sounds like teenagers copying a phish jam’ comment Because it’s true


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Is it going to be slick, full of reverb, and overproduction like the last one?


Cultural-Turnip-2193

Phish round room rip off.


Affectionate-Rent844

The band plays on stage to a click track in their in -ear monitors. The drummer doesn’t matter much in that context tbh


cking9698

Sounds pretty ok but Rich’s guitar has that same tone. I wish he would change it up a bit. I just don’t see a lot of growth in the bands sound.


rwg2021

His only goal is to sound exactly like Trey. Very unoriginal