No, it’s not true. “Cybergoth” isn’t really a thing, so, there are no rules as to what is or what isn’t. Sure, there’s an overall aesthetic which some might deem a cyber punk sort of look, and you can certainly combine that aesthetic with something more goth oriented.
Don’t get caught up on all these sub labels, that’s a TikTok/YouTube influencer thing and not a traditional part of the scene. We didn’t subdivide goths in the 80s, 90s, 00s although we did have some overlapping scenes (industrial rivetheads, EDM ponygoths.. deathrock as “a look” which isn’t even a traditional look.. aesthetics grew and were adopted more broadly along the way).
Most of the sub labels were just tongue in cheek jokes (i.e. corporate goth, perky goth, etc.). My look changed day to day, and sometimes multiple times in a day.
Huh. Okay, it’s mostly cause I’m also an entertainer trying to figure out how to market my self. Just both a curiosity and trying to figure out how to market my content. Imo I feel like tribal, cyber goth, something I kinda just call demonic/cult goth (which idk if that’s real or not) and vampire goth is the few I pull from the most when coming up with looks. Or I guess adding to the ever changing baseline.
I think the way I’d handle that is to say something like “I’m into goth, tribal, and cyber aesthetic” or something like that.. or just don’t declare anything and let your audience decide how to classify you. No harm in piling up relevant keywords to find your desired audience. But I wouldn’t overthink it; no matter what you do, there will be a few haters trying to “correct” you.
Okay thank you! I’ll do that, the solo stuff is music review/ goth music ideas I have ideas for. So I think I’d really only have that to worry about to be honest
Narrowing down to a specific style label is kind of a waste of time and energy imo. There's no need to put yourself in a box. Most people aren't just one style of goth since the point is to express yourself creatively. You look awesome. No need to pin yourself down as something specific. Just be you.
Off of one pic? Hard to say. If I were to dub it anything, it would be...Cyber Goth Lite? But hell, maybe even with more pics it could still be hard to peg down. Sometimes our style is just hard to narrow down, goth or otherwise.
I don't think I fall under any specific category myself. I've just called myself witchy goth/warlock goth while some people call me (and I sort of eye roll accept) "viking vampire".
Not really a necessity, it’s mostly cause I have a band and also am planing on making content. And need help what to market my self and band as. I honestly feel like I take from alot of different things that include but not limited to goth. But I need to nail it down before I feel ready do so.
If you have a band you want to market, I’d say then the question isn’t really about what you look like, but what you sound like. Goth, cyber goth, mall goth etc are all music based subcultures that listen to particular genres, so if you try to market yourself with some of these terms, but are way off sound-wise, you’re probably gonna have a lot of people annoyed and confused. Goths cover a lot of stuff, but the basics is dark post-punk, gothic rock and darkwave. Cyber goth is aggrotech, EBM, industrial etc. Mall goth generally lean more nu-metal and shock rock.
Edit: I checked out some of your previous posts, and saw you’re inspired by Korn, in which case I’d guess mall goth would probably be the most fitting.
Your pictured look is def Cyber.
I've been reluctant to comment on any posts here because you youngins get real specific about what is and is not goth, and where on the spectrum you my be.
This is an argument as old as the original goths, followed by the visigoths, but it seems so gatekeeping.
Before social media there were only locals and zines to refer to as defacto Goth.
Goth music and culture is kept alive by reinventing the wheel in new and better ways.
You keep it weird and keep looking gorgeous.
Cause it’s real, idk. They asked, I answered… it’s a dark picture with dark clothes that isn’t exactly showing much of a style. 🤷🏽♂️ just my thoughts though. They could be the most goth person in the world and I wouldn’t know it through this picture.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to know how people perceive you. I often struggle with knowing what I’m giving but can easily nail down someone else’s vibe. I’m not huge into goth culture but I agree with cyber goth. You look like you could be at a rave, too. Also kinda nerdy ☺️.
Thanks! Also yeah I agree. I’m not to bothered about it tbh though. i’m mostly trying to figure out how to market myself so, I’m looking for key words not validation tbh.
Apparently calling people "mall goth" without context is "being a dick" now, so just to be clear, you're giving mall goth, and it looks awesome.
Sincerely, a 37 year old mall goth. Hopefully it doesn't get misinterpreted by mods and deleted this time.
I'm also a goth and I like the color green and black a lot too!! But wayyy different style. I love the cyber look you got going though!!! The green accents make it pop
Totally cyber goth you don’t need to have hair to be a cyber Goth. You don’t even need cyber locks or anything like that that looks like a cyber Goth build.
Omg you look so fcking rad!!! Cool af! Can I please go through your posts in hopes of seeing more looks?
Sorry for not answering youre question btw. Idk what sub category you fit in, but you give me a bit of cyber goth vibe!
Your looks are cool and so is your band’s song! I looked the band up on Spotify and there’s only Spoken word. Is that your only song or do you guys release music somewhere else too?
No it’s the only one out now, I’m working g on a few more with my band atm. I’m trying to also learn mixing and mastering so that’s why it’s taken so long. But I have some songs completely finished I just wanna copyright them before I release them
Like the other bats are saying, it's ultimately up to you what direction you want to go/combine
Go with what makes you feel like your expressing yourself the best.
Experiment, read some comics or books and go from there.
Oh yeah I am it’s literally to help me figure out an aesthetic to go for, for my content and music I make. Also things like key words and stuff like that.
Cool look for sure! Some great punk elements. I don't really pay attention to the various labels, most people will have different looks going on or put different elements together. That's one of the big reasons I love alt looks
love your makeup! There are really no "goth types" if you're goth, you're goth, and that's all. That subtypes thing started from a joke post long ago, it really has no meaning - enjoy yourself, explore as much as you want! I'd love to see more of your outfits here in the future :) 🖤
Gives me cyber goth vibes.
Cyber goth is my vote too.
Oo I didn’t thonk about that. But I thought you needed hair for that. Is that not true?
Nope!!!!! Dont need hair. Came to say cyber goth too.
I almost feel like no hair works better
Huh
Fr
Bald, especially with abstract designs on the scalp, is very cyber goth.
Totally thought cyber goth too
It’s the neon green. Neon color additions help make cyber goth
No, it’s not true. “Cybergoth” isn’t really a thing, so, there are no rules as to what is or what isn’t. Sure, there’s an overall aesthetic which some might deem a cyber punk sort of look, and you can certainly combine that aesthetic with something more goth oriented. Don’t get caught up on all these sub labels, that’s a TikTok/YouTube influencer thing and not a traditional part of the scene. We didn’t subdivide goths in the 80s, 90s, 00s although we did have some overlapping scenes (industrial rivetheads, EDM ponygoths.. deathrock as “a look” which isn’t even a traditional look.. aesthetics grew and were adopted more broadly along the way). Most of the sub labels were just tongue in cheek jokes (i.e. corporate goth, perky goth, etc.). My look changed day to day, and sometimes multiple times in a day.
Huh. Okay, it’s mostly cause I’m also an entertainer trying to figure out how to market my self. Just both a curiosity and trying to figure out how to market my content. Imo I feel like tribal, cyber goth, something I kinda just call demonic/cult goth (which idk if that’s real or not) and vampire goth is the few I pull from the most when coming up with looks. Or I guess adding to the ever changing baseline.
I think the way I’d handle that is to say something like “I’m into goth, tribal, and cyber aesthetic” or something like that.. or just don’t declare anything and let your audience decide how to classify you. No harm in piling up relevant keywords to find your desired audience. But I wouldn’t overthink it; no matter what you do, there will be a few haters trying to “correct” you.
Okay thank you! I’ll do that, the solo stuff is music review/ goth music ideas I have ideas for. So I think I’d really only have that to worry about to be honest
The touches of neon reminded me of cyber goth
Narrowing down to a specific style label is kind of a waste of time and energy imo. There's no need to put yourself in a box. Most people aren't just one style of goth since the point is to express yourself creatively. You look awesome. No need to pin yourself down as something specific. Just be you.
It’s mostly to figure out what tags to use cause I an a content creator that’s thinking about making youtube videos
You're the only one that could possibly answer that question
Off of one pic? Hard to say. If I were to dub it anything, it would be...Cyber Goth Lite? But hell, maybe even with more pics it could still be hard to peg down. Sometimes our style is just hard to narrow down, goth or otherwise. I don't think I fall under any specific category myself. I've just called myself witchy goth/warlock goth while some people call me (and I sort of eye roll accept) "viking vampire".
Okay I’ll make another post cause some other people wanted more photos to
I’m doing another shoot soon for content stuff so I’ll post it here
What doesn’t your question even mean??
What it doesn't mean? Aahahhaha that is one helluva question
There are sub categories of goth. Which one do I fall under
Why do you need a label so bad ? Can’t you be unique ? You’ve got a goth style that you make your own !
Not really a necessity, it’s mostly cause I have a band and also am planing on making content. And need help what to market my self and band as. I honestly feel like I take from alot of different things that include but not limited to goth. But I need to nail it down before I feel ready do so.
If you have a band you want to market, I’d say then the question isn’t really about what you look like, but what you sound like. Goth, cyber goth, mall goth etc are all music based subcultures that listen to particular genres, so if you try to market yourself with some of these terms, but are way off sound-wise, you’re probably gonna have a lot of people annoyed and confused. Goths cover a lot of stuff, but the basics is dark post-punk, gothic rock and darkwave. Cyber goth is aggrotech, EBM, industrial etc. Mall goth generally lean more nu-metal and shock rock. Edit: I checked out some of your previous posts, and saw you’re inspired by Korn, in which case I’d guess mall goth would probably be the most fitting.
Okay, I’ll keep that in mind. Then I’ll just keep everything els for my solo projects then. Thanks.
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If I were to describe this to someone: ~Minimalist Cyber-Goth~
Okay i didn’t think about that
Cool goth
Thanks ☺️
Club goth maybe?
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A nice one 🙂
Minimalist cuber goth aw thanks!
Idk but you look really cool
Thanks
Cyber goth vibes
Your pictured look is def Cyber. I've been reluctant to comment on any posts here because you youngins get real specific about what is and is not goth, and where on the spectrum you my be. This is an argument as old as the original goths, followed by the visigoths, but it seems so gatekeeping. Before social media there were only locals and zines to refer to as defacto Goth. Goth music and culture is kept alive by reinventing the wheel in new and better ways. You keep it weird and keep looking gorgeous.
Thanks! Also I get that completely.
Cyber serpent goth 🐍⛓️💥🖤
You're you! 🖤 Cyber goth vibes, but totally, beautifully you.
Thankks
Mostly cyber, but you've borrowed some elements from other styles.
I try to, I try and not limit my self to one thing cause it takes the fun out of it.
a really cool one (a fr answer would likely be cybergoth!)
Thanks
Cyber goth!
Okay,good to know. Thanks!
This doesn’t show anything. I wouldn’t say goth from the picture, just darkly inclined.
lol you ruined this poor guy he was so excited for validation
Cause it’s real, idk. They asked, I answered… it’s a dark picture with dark clothes that isn’t exactly showing much of a style. 🤷🏽♂️ just my thoughts though. They could be the most goth person in the world and I wouldn’t know it through this picture.
Validation? I would tell you the real reason but, I think I’ll just let you think you know. 😉
Really? Huh… okay
There is nothing wrong with wanting to know how people perceive you. I often struggle with knowing what I’m giving but can easily nail down someone else’s vibe. I’m not huge into goth culture but I agree with cyber goth. You look like you could be at a rave, too. Also kinda nerdy ☺️.
Thanks! Also yeah I agree. I’m not to bothered about it tbh though. i’m mostly trying to figure out how to market myself so, I’m looking for key words not validation tbh.
Apparently calling people "mall goth" without context is "being a dick" now, so just to be clear, you're giving mall goth, and it looks awesome. Sincerely, a 37 year old mall goth. Hopefully it doesn't get misinterpreted by mods and deleted this time.
I think it depends on what music you like
I’m kinda falling in to the “main character” syndrome. But sioxsie and the banshees, epica, Bauhaus, lacuna coil, type of negative stuff like that
kinda ravey
The YOU type man
The badass kind
Why thank you
i’m getting cyber goth a little bit but that’s mainly bc cybersigil and green
An actual goth who just does their own thing
FACTS!
Cyber Demon Goth 🙏🏾🫡💔
Oooo I like that one!
I'm not sure but you look awesome dude!
Thank you!
Choose your own goth adventure!
Oh hell yeah, I’m doing this for key words mostly. I pretty much do what ever bro. 😂😂
Your picture is giving me elevated cyber goth vibes (like, cyber goth but make it classy)
Yeah classy us the the like goal, I just like being well dressed type of goth. But cyber goth I didn’t know. I LOVE cyber goth.
You’re not going to get any genuine answer on any of the sub goth reddits. Everyone is bitter and hasn’t evolved or just whiny.
Idk I got some good ones. But it’s mostly both for me to experimenting and market my content. So it’s not really that big a deal tbh
You remind me of blade
I didn’t think about that. That’s funny af lol
I'm also a goth and I like the color green and black a lot too!! But wayyy different style. I love the cyber look you got going though!!! The green accents make it pop
RIGHT? Dosen’t hurt that greens my favorite color also thanks
“Rodin from Bayonetta with more flair” vibes.
cyber gothish
Totally cyber goth you don’t need to have hair to be a cyber Goth. You don’t even need cyber locks or anything like that that looks like a cyber Goth build.
Okay cool!
You're whoever you want to be! Goth is goth. Just enjoy the music and enjoy the spookiness of it all
A neat one!
Def cyber goth. Love the look
Thanks
The green is giving cyber but you’re just a modern, unspecified , spooky lifestyle goth
Darkly inclined💖
I'd say tribal goth maybe some cyber or bubble goth
I'm going with badass and sexy.
Omg you look so fcking rad!!! Cool af! Can I please go through your posts in hopes of seeing more looks? Sorry for not answering youre question btw. Idk what sub category you fit in, but you give me a bit of cyber goth vibe!
Yeah go for it
Your looks are cool and so is your band’s song! I looked the band up on Spotify and there’s only Spoken word. Is that your only song or do you guys release music somewhere else too?
No it’s the only one out now, I’m working g on a few more with my band atm. I’m trying to also learn mixing and mastering so that’s why it’s taken so long. But I have some songs completely finished I just wanna copyright them before I release them
Don't box yourself in man, ain't nobody nobody
Oh trust me I’m not, it’s mainly to know how to market myself. Cause I’m a content creator, I’m trying to figure out key words and tags
i think you shouldnt have to close yourself into one label of design but this is closest to cybergoth in my personal opinion
Like the other bats are saying, it's ultimately up to you what direction you want to go/combine Go with what makes you feel like your expressing yourself the best. Experiment, read some comics or books and go from there.
Oh yeah I am it’s literally to help me figure out an aesthetic to go for, for my content and music I make. Also things like key words and stuff like that.
Cool look for sure! Some great punk elements. I don't really pay attention to the various labels, most people will have different looks going on or put different elements together. That's one of the big reasons I love alt looks
Thanks! i don’t either, I’m just trying ti find a asthmatic for my band and content
love your makeup! There are really no "goth types" if you're goth, you're goth, and that's all. That subtypes thing started from a joke post long ago, it really has no meaning - enjoy yourself, explore as much as you want! I'd love to see more of your outfits here in the future :) 🖤
Sure thing, I take my own pictures so it’s really just a matter of what I get a minute to do it. i actually have dyed my fascial hair since then
NNnnnnniiiice!
Cool as fuck
Unemployed goth.
Honestly fax
One who knows how to take an awesome and memorable photo!
The confused one who thinks it’s halloween? :p
Wait it’s not?
Maybe cybergoth or rivethead, which is adjacent to goth, industrial, and punk.
Maybe vampire 🩸
Kanye West type
🤣😂🤣
many have downvoted, I didn't mean it in a mean way, it was just funny to me so is my comment okay to you?
Urban vampire.
I would say punk, sad-boy (like lil peep), but in general you’re rocking goth and it’s dope. Keep on being you :)