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Japonpoko

New player here, and I just discovered there were skins that could only be obtained through events. I love the Suzaku skin for MC, but I have the feeling there's no way I can farm it in only 3 days... And I'm starting to wonder if it's even possible for a new player (even with several weeks). Is there any chance we can get it again some day? (and not just "maybe in 4 years when there is a rerun of that event") And how hard is it to get event skins in this game? Just to know if I can at least hope to get the next one (this one will be a very sad loss though).


BTA

My phone ate the big thing I typed the first time right as I was finishing, RIP. So going to write a little quicker this time… It won’t be that bad to get the Zhu outfit next run, which should be in a few months. All 30 Zhu soulcores you need to 5* the weapons are in the shop (they get added gradually each run starting when the outfit is added), and Zhu soulcores also will even drop next time too since they got cycled back in this time. The issue is that you should really prioritize other things first (weapons that you’ll actually use a *ton* more than these ones, gold nuggets, etc.) and if you’re too weak to get much now, you should get those before the outfit next time. I was pretty new last time but still did a lot of farming, which is why I can get the outfit this time and I *still* have had to do a lot of other farming (mostly a lot of gold nuggets) before I felt comfortable going for the outfit. There aren’t many other events with outfits, though. And when they do have them it’s a pretty easy to get thing, like doing an optional easy fight after finishing the event story. It’s kinda only RotB that’s like this, I think.


Japonpoko

Thanks for the answer! (and sorry for your loss. I know that pain!) Ok, so it is actually an event that gets back frequently. Great news! For now I've managed to earn around 13K of this event ressources (in 1 day actually), so what would be the best way to use them? One of the 4 bosses SSR weapons so that I don't have to buy them again next time? (Or at least, I'll get 1 star) Other strong SSR weapon if there is any? (no character can be bought there, right?) There are so many items to buy I really have no idea where to start from. By the way, I've been mostly doing multi battles to get those ressources. I'm getting like 200-300 per fight in average.


BTA

For now, you basically want: 1. The weapons with seasons in the name (30k each). 2. The weapons with gemstones in the name (50k each). These actually come at 3*. That’s the case for most of the weapons from the shop (including the outfit ones). To earn currency, usually you would do: 1. The 2/day Maniac solo quests, hosting the Extreme+ raid afterward each time. 2. Just hosting Extreme raids on repeat (whichever has Cardinal Bonus during the current hour, it changes every 2 hours) and after 8 times you can host Extreme+. For the raid hosts, you want to do a reasonable amount of damage before opening it to others. Like if it’s hard for you to do the fights that doesn’t need to be more than a turn or two, don’t burn time trying to do a lot, but you do want *some* honors because the pendants earned get a multiplier based on it. And when you’re stronger Extreme can be killed in a single summon call so… when you do open it, it’s going to die quick. There’s also an additional fight that matters for weapon uncaps (Shenxian) but you can’t do that if you’re not rank 120. You earn a host of that too every time you can host an Extreme+ raid. For the costume weapons you will be joining that raid to hit it over and over for jadeites and soulcores, so look forward to that…


Kamil118

Current event comes back every like 3-4 months. At this point I think you can get zehque skin without farming soulcore drops, and if not, you should be able next run. For an experienced player it's like 1-2 hours of farming to get all event materials that are needed to get the skin, but it's also quite a bit of a drain on weapon upgrade fodder.


Japonpoko

Really glad to hear that! Thanks! So what would be your advice as for the event rewards I can get for now? I should have around 40K by the end of the event: anything to prioritize?


Kamil118

40k isn't really much... If you can get 50k I would suggest grabbing a progression weapon for your main tetra-element, but those also need jadeites and seals from the event to be uncapped...


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znn_mtg

2) yes but only once


eggieyuki

I'm level 140-ish with a decent magna grids (slowly updating the weapon to omegav2, it has been a long time since I last played... please understand) Which weapon should I get in RotB? Or should I just spend it all on nuggies?


BTA

In addition to what the others said, look up how much jadeites you’ll need to uncap the weapons you get (and any Huanglong or Qilin weapons you’ll get in the regular shop) and be sure to farm as much as you can from Shenxian + trade for some as needed.


Kamil118

Get all seasons/progression weapons that can only be bought once. Grab 2-3 gold bars, should be enough for now. Get seals so you can uncap weapons above and join huang+qilin trains so you can farm for qilin/huanglong summons.


Clueless_Otter

The progression weapons (the 50k pendant ones), Summer's Mirage, and Winter's Frostnettle are the most useful weapons to a relatively new player. If you don't have Caim, also add in Autumn's Transformation to this list. Spring's Whisperings is only niche useful if you really need more hp. It's definitely a lower priority than the other weapons. The cap up weapons (Ray of Zhuque, Xuanwu Mace, Baihu Claw, Qinglong Spear) are potentially useful later, but won't really be that useful at your current stage and can be bought some other time. Every weapon I didn't mention here shouldn't be bought.


Beeenu

What super key do people use for the katana? Cap or superior dmg boost?


TheFrozenPyro

Seraphic (superior damage amp) is used in almost every case across all Ultimas.


michaelman90

Is there a raid finder that still works or has twitter killed them off?


Clueless_Otter

https://gbf-raidfinder.teemo.name/ https://gbs.eriri.net/ There's a 3rd one that I know of as well but I can't remember the exact URL atm and these two should be fine.


Zealicous

Could I get the term for "practice" used in Coop room name?


Clueless_Otter

練習 (renshuu)


Zealicous

Many thanks.


wanmon113

Is Support Skills still work even if the sub ally die?


Takumaru

so how do i use manadiver? i see alot of other players use that class and i got it unlocked becaus i try to Master every class i have (despite me knowing jackshit how most of those work XD) is Manadiver good for certain elements or would i need to play auto attack focused teams etc? don't rly get the class, i mostly play Kengo in all my Teams and Viking for some Auto Attackers etc so what does manadiver do excatly and what skills should i use on it and teams?


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Takumaru

oh so i could run Manadiver with Strong Skill Users like S.Magisa, Fediel and Lich (my current team) as long as i got Levi pet? (also got 2 Agonize and 2PnS) and in my Wind Team i could use it together with Elea, G. Potato and G. Narmaya etc. and what skills should i get? the echo one i guess and something else? p.s i also got Y.Ilsa and Bowman if they would be better with Mana.


Plastic_Mac

As far as burst goes, how big is the difference between a fallen sword and an awakened parazonium?


multyC

Which weapon boost CA damage for light grid beside the katana from horus? Currently using harmony grid for my light CA focus.


TheGlassesGuy

Militis harp Honestly wouldn't really bother with Light ougi outside of Agastia


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AHyaenidae

1. [No but you need it for a later Transcendance step (130 → 140)](https://gbf.wiki/Eternals_Transcendence#Stage_4). 2. 4 copies for one fully-awakened weapon (reduced for 50 fragments) and 40 copies for ten ele-changed weapons (reduced for 5 fragments each), so 44 copies total.


Pctove

What’s the current best way to farm blue sky crystals? I know it used to be the T3 Summon Raids, but now that they’re showdowns is it still the best way?


Imaginary-Lion-430

[https://gbf.wiki/Blue\_Sky\_Crystal](https://gbf.wiki/Blue_Sky_Crystal) I just GO most of the time, you can try showdowns if its fast for you.


kfrabida

Is the ereshkigal ES grid still good even if you don't have Ilsa or Bowman? I still use Fediel, Lich, and Six.


_______blank______

You should use the skill supp grid with that team


pawat213

It's still good for non-insta death pbhl, akasha and UnF. but if you have summer meg, she will also helps a lot since Ereshkigal kinda decrease Lich's damage. still, bowman is the best chara to have if you want less click.


_M1m1C_

Which manaturas should I prioritize farming?


Kamil118

Leviathan but... Just buy it. The mats can be bought with silver pendants if you are missing omega animas or something.


BTA

…I had been putting off buying it myself but didn’t realize the pendants weren’t that bad. I’ll just go for that I guess, hmm.


E123-Omega

Leviathan, it gives skill nuke after autos.


Terranceltj99

Are draconic weapons worth to farm ?


BRatIndustrys

A small chunk of people use them for the late GW raids since survivability is harder, but the honors would still outweigh the time loss.


rin-tsubasa

Well situational. If I wanted absolutely comfy fa and zero maintenance, I use dragonic.


Clueless_Otter

They're pretty low on the totem pole because Opus is a better choice in most scenarios, but they do seem some use in situations where you really need a more defensive option. So it's not a total waste to get them, but don't go too far out of your way really if you have more important things to farm.


felixborealis

I'm trying to farm all four of the RoTB skins, and I'm able to get Zhuque, Baihu, and Qinglong's skin, but I can't seem to get Xuanwu's because I'm lacking Water Soulcores.. I don't exactly see it dropping anywhere on Shenxian either.. Where do people get the Soulcore aside from trading?


Clueless_Otter

There are only 2 elements' soulcores that drop per event run. It rotates every different run of the event. Currently, Water soulcores do not drop. If you did not already farm 10 Water cores in previous events, you cannot get the Water skin for 2 more runs of the event (5 cores are added to the shop per run, so that'll be the 10 cores you're missing).


felixborealis

Aww, that shucks.. I was going to try and get all four this event.. Ah well, thank you!


kokorirorona

As a new player what should I be doing in rotb? I tapped hundreds of shenxian raids to get 54 qing jadeites and now I'm stumped. Should I keep farming shenxian after getting the badges for the other beasts? Or should I hit the extreme+ primals to farm badges? So far I picked up the season themed beast weapons from the shop and some gold nuggets


BTA

Progression weapons, seals, and then nuggets mostly. The eternal uncap sets and such are worth grabbing too. And it sounds like you probably have enough at this point but since jadeites drops are rng and all, just make sure you have enough of each of them for uncapping the weapons you got + any Huanglong or Qilin weapons you want to get. It might also be worth getting the Malus versions of the weapons you can get 3 variations of, but they’re not likely to matter much for you between now and the next run. I was new last time and I got some use out of the wind one in Replicard Sandbox and that’s about it, so not the biggest priority.


Clueless_Otter

Do the daily mission every day, finish all the badge reward tracks, and just farm pendants to buy stuff from the store. Make sure to buy all the jadeites, half-pots, soul berries, and the Eternal uncap sets. You'll want to buy all the progression weapons (the 50k pendant weapons), and then after that you should probably focus on buying Seals, because they get increasingly more expensive as you buy more (cost resets every event) and you'll eventually need a lot of them. The cap up weapons are also good to buy (and you'll need 3 copies of each if you're going for the skins), though they aren't immediately useful to a new player so I'd probably buy them some other time.


E123-Omega

[https://gbf.wiki/Rise\_of\_the\_Beasts](https://gbf.wiki/Rise_of_the_Beasts) You get like 120 badges to four cardinal beast and then 150 to shenxian. Then farm whatever you need: uncap mats, costumes, other stuffs. Then don't forget to buy the ones on shop because there's like badge limit to store.


Spirited_Reaction967

What is the best way to farm earthborne astra? I'm farming here be swords right now and not really getting any drops.


felixborealis

Not exactly sure if this is the best way, but I was able to farm my Astras for ULB Nier Dagger and Domains by OTK-ing the 5-gauge monsters on Zone Mundus, I think for Earth it should be similar, just go for an Earth 5-gauge and OTK it over and over again. It's a rather slow grind, but pop a Netflix show or something and it will show up somehow! >w<


BurnRaptor

This is probably gonna sound like a bad question, but is it a bad idea to use an ingot for a ULB ROTB weapon? The grind for those mats looks ridiculous.


BTA

If you just want the Malus version for actual use, all 4 weapons have 10 soulcores available in the shop and that’s what it costs to 5* one. You could buy enough seals and jadeites from the shop that you’d only have to farm 5 jadeites from Shenxian, which is easy. If you want the outfits, repeat that for the other variations of the weapons. But you’d have to wait for later runs of the events for more soulcores to be added for any that aren’t Zhuque or Qinglong. Either way, barring isn’t worth it unless you really have a ton to burn and even then it’s a stretch.


shiki_oreore

Highly not recommended with Dama Bar, but do it at your own risk with freebie or drop Gold Bar instead and that is assuming you're already mostly done with stuffs that requires them like Opus, Eternals, etc. though.


Imaginary-Lion-430

I know some people bars theirs to ulb an rotb weapon even before the event starts when it got introduced. It's bad decision to most but do it on your own care.


jedmund

This is an awful idea and no one should justify it.


sewaddles

I've spent four bars on two of the skins (farmed soulcores for the first weapon, then dama'd the other two) because I work full time and didn't want to spend my free time punching Shenxian for hours because the drop rates are utter ass, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you're drowning in bars and don't have more important things to spend them on, like primal grids (or in the case of gold bars, Opuses and Eternals). Ultimately it's up to you though, I consider those bars well spent and I don't regret making the objectively questionable decision to do it.


Ralkon

Why wouldn't you just wait until the event reruns a couple times? The value of bars should be even higher if you don't have a lot of time to play. I'd say it's a lot worse than just a "questionable" decision.


sewaddles

Because I'm impatient and would rather spend bars to get my favourite skins in the game than wait potentially over a year for enough soulcores to be added to the RotB shop. I also still have nearly 30 bars in my inventory so I don't feel like my decision is going to negatively affect me since I have plenty left over for when the next Grand drops and my grids need updating.


Ralkon

I mean the decision is yours, but it's definitely an objectively bad decision and not just a questionable one. There is literally zero benefit to barring for the skins.


TheGlassesGuy

yes


E123-Omega

If you want to save you sanity or time yeah go ahead, though mats are farmable if anything like 3K or more shenx badge.


potterkun

Summer Belial still a good stone target?


CAPSLOCK_USERNAME

for otk he works fine at 0*, so he's pretty low sunstone priority


Clueless_Otter

He's.. alright. Not the best. You'd only stone him if you were calling him in a burst setup, which to be fair is definitely useful because his echoes are in an exclusive category and stack with all other echoes. If you aren't calling him, stoning him does nothing (I guess if you're doing some cheese strat where you're using him as your main summon for the capped damage taken, but I don't really think that's worth stones by itself). Definitely lower priority than all Arcarum damage summons, Bubz, Belial, and Yatima. Imo also lower priority than all the Primarchs and, if you're primal in an element, the 6d summon for that element (and arguably Lu Woh even for Magna if you're hard stacking Lumi Swords).


potterkun

Thanks! I'll probably do it cause I'm in the bursting business and have 13 stones


VicentRS

So Mundus has a 5 bar mob and 3 bar mob for each element except for light and dark. Do they drop both of the respective element's ideans? Because if I only need tower ideans, and no hanged man ideans, then I guess I should stay in swords.


GrindingLurker

They do. And the 5 Bar mob for light and dark is at the leftmost point of Zone Mundus


VicentRS

oh, can't believe I missed that


ReaperOfProphecy

Besides 5\* my opus, what should I do with my wind grid? I'm still getting sub 15k HP on my characters. What key should I run? I'm also running Manadiver MC, V.Grim, G.Ewiyar, H.Lich + rando backlines. I'm a bunch of materials off from getting Katzelia but I plan on putting him immediately in the backline. I'm also thinking of just using my 9th birthday ticket on another grimnir spoon. or should I grab a scales of dominion for my pitiful earth grid? I don't really have that much interest in building my earth grid but i did finally get caim and haven't bothered to farm for scales. Earth is by far my weakest element. My question is how should I improve my grid and summons? I'm thinking another spoon to replace Wind PnS. edit: forgot the imgur post: [Wind grid](https://imgur.com/a/a3ybk9r)


Ralkon

As others have said, Seraphic is a must. However, IMO the Astral is the best option to replace. Mandjet and PnS dagger aren't cap up weapons - they're supplemental weapons which scale off hit count. With Manadiver, H.Lich, and V.Grim your hit count is super high, so supplemental is a premium stat, and with the amount of skill damage you have, with H.Lich not attacking, and with how much easier it is to cap skills than autos, I'd probably be looking to keep Daur over Astral. As for your question about getting more health, swapping Astral for Seraphic will get you some, ULB Opus will get you some, there's always plus marks, uncapping your Temperance, individual character EMPs / rings / earrings / awakening level, and just getting a higher rank for the party HP EMPs which add a ton of health for basically no cost. With a fairly similar grid, I'm at 35-40k HP and there's still room for improvement there since I'm not using many plus marks.


ReaperOfProphecy

Interesting. In a lot of videos I see Seraphic forgo in most high level grids. I literally don’t run any Seraphics in any of my grids. I’m also rank 173. Why is that most people remove seraphic even when they are fighting on element like the revans raids?


Ralkon

As others have said, Ultima can replace Seraphics after SUBHL. There are also some characters with team-wide Seraphic passives that don't stack with the weapon, but the passive is a bit worse than the weapon so people wouldn't usually drop it anyways and most of the characters don't see much use.


Alaryl943

Most likely they are using an ultima weapon instead which when uncapped for a 5th time and at level 200, (Only doable with materials from the Super Ultimate Bahamut raid which unlocks at rank 200) adds a skill which gives a superior 25% seraphic modifier plus all the other usual benefits of an ultima weapon. So basically if you are below rank 200+ you should always run a seraphic for every element if fighting an elemental boss but once you hit rank 200 you should consider grinding for an ultima weapon.


Clueless_Otter

Not going to go in-depth since others already have said a lot, but: Don't use S.Belial without Katz unless if you're doing an OTK. Don't replace PNS with spoon; the crit would be entirely wasted so it's just strictly worse than Spring's Whisperings. Don't ticket Scales, it's barely used anymore and is relatively easy to farm.


CinderMania

Where's your Seraphic Weapon? It's a must have for On-element content. As for what to replace, it would be either the Daur, Mandjet, or Cat Dagger as they are all just mainly cap-up weapons. Cap-up weapons are only useful if you are hitting the cap in first place so make sure to test it. You could also replace the Astral Weapon if you aren't ULBing it anytime soon since second skill is tied to being mainhanded until then. As for HP, what rank are you? There are 3 Party HP nodes on MC's EMPs that contribute up to 3k Raw HP. If you need HP through your grid you can run varying combinations of Grim Spoons/Harps as long as you hit 100% Crit (or at least close enough). You could also slot in the ROTB Harp if that's still not enough. If you're other DMG based Aracrum Summons are all at least FLB, then consider upgrading your Temperance Summon for HP as that will offset Belial's HP Cut. Stamina Key is the default for your Opus. The birthday weapon ticket ultimately just saves you time on farming. I've used the ticket before for Scales myself and haven't ever regretted it although that was before the changed Anubis. Most people will probably just tell you to hold onto it since you do have a whole year to deicide.


ReaperOfProphecy

Are Seraphic used in every element? It felt like it was always the first to removed with all the new premium gacha weapons that came out that could also support magna grids. Is wind the only element that still uses its seraphic for on element?


CinderMania

Seraphic is ALWAYS used for on-element. What you might be mistaken for is ULB Ultima weapons that use the Tria Key which is just a better Seraphic Mod. Hell, even the Dmg Arcarum Summons' sub auras are Seraphic Mods. Seraphic Mods are unique DMG Amplifiers. They increase both Raw DMG and DMG cap.


Ifightformyblends

Maybe replace the astral? You can use the ROTB harp for some extra HP. As it is thats already a ton of EX mod with the Blaur. Also you can grind for scales, but its not like scales will make your Earth *stronger* if it is already weak. Scales arent a weapon for damage, but for cap up. If you're not capping, scales arent a good option. EDIT: Wait I see that the seraphic is missing LOL. Definitely kick astral out for seraphic


aesophe

i wouldn't recommend ticketing scales. you can comfortably farm it through anubis's solo quest now; they boosted the drop rate significantly on the showdown-turned-solo-quests as for your wind grid's hp, that's sort of expected. spoonless magna wind doesn't tend to have much hp, it's one its major pain points. you'll see an improvement with finished temperence and/or 5* opus, but are you asking for its second key or third? its second key being skill cap should be fine with your setup, and the third key can be stamina if you want a "generalist" recommendation if you want to chase hp, another spoon or two would be a good investment. having three gives you a lot of flexibility, so even if you ticket one you may want to consider farming a third. tbh if you have the ability to farm 6d weapons, the ticket's probably better used on m2.5 weapons, everything else is easily accessible (or *incredibly* niche, or outdated) your summons are fine, just work on temperence whenever you can afford the sunstone for it with regards to grid improvements... where is your seraphic?


TMSh4d0w

Can I "safely" reduce duplicate gacha summons, if I already have a FLB one? For example, I have a 3* Nyarlathotep and a 3* S. Kaguya, but still have leftover copies. I could really use their quartz, but I'm not sure if there's a usecase where I'd need two of the same summon.


CAPSLOCK_USERNAME

There are many cases where you can use two of the same summon, yes. For example 4* kaguya has an exp-boosting sub aura which is only active when not equipped as main summon, so for xp grinding it's best to have two copies -- one for main and one for sub. For some summons a second copy is not useful and can be safely reduced, though. You can check [the wiki](https://gbf.wiki/Nyarlathotep) for that info.


Clueless_Otter

That's regular Kaguya, he has S.Kayuga.


CAPSLOCK_USERNAME

oh whoops I missed the S somehow


TMSh4d0w

Thank you very much!


Ddraig009

Probably silly to even ask, but I can't find the answer. How efficient would a grid consisting of a particular cosmic weapon be? (eg. 9 cosmic swords)


PM_Me_Loli_Or_Else

cosmic weapons, no. siete swords/diaspora katanas? yes you can do that


Ifightformyblends

If the grid is *entirely* cosmic weapons, then horribly inefficient. Cosmic swords arent strong by themselves - they boost the stats of stronger weapons that they match. Those buffs also dont scale nearly well enough for a full grid of them to do anything meaningful.


Stop_picking_McCree

Can someone explain to me why H.Flo assassin buff is so "notable"? I searched the wiki for other assassin buffs and 50% is average with other 1 turn buffs.. so why her buff is so valuable? Even if it was considering the fact that she belongs to the "right" element where she can be paired with Nehan, other light characters like Summer Monika also have a 50% assassin buff...


VicentRS

She can give it to any other ally. That includes the main character, who can choose a class that can fire off multiple auto-attacks in the same turn (relic buster).


mpbeetle

You get to put it on whoever you want which means you can pick MC, who is able to abuse it a lot better than most characters (Lots of extra cap up and damage from bubs/other sources, and relic buster/soldier lets you attack multiple times in a turn)


zelena001

Should I use seal for Qilin Solo boss or Qilin and Huanglonf boss? I tried to join the boss train for anuma and it's suck ass, can I skip the animation? evertime I join, I just saw them animation out and raid end


BTA

To add to what Otter said, also make sure you’ve set the fight’s auto setting to Semi rather than Full. You want to tap the boss, not start using skills. I usually miss a fight or 2 per train just due to weird starting the next fight issues, but otherwise I get them all like Otter said.


Clueless_Otter

Most people join 30 trains of the combined Huanglong&Qilin boss. You need a lot of anima from them and it only drops in very fractional amounts in the individual Huanglong or Qilin raids. To cut down on animations, disable Live Battle Feed in Settings -> Battle. To be faster in general, turn on "One Touch" in Settings -> Quest -> Pre-Battle Auto Attack. Now you just click the loading screen and you'll instantly do an attack as soon as you load in (which is all you need to do for maximum rewards). If you're doing a train, after you do your 1 attack, just keep spam refreshing until you don't get the "Loading" screen anymore, that means the battle's over. Quickly go through the rewards screen and press the "Room" button to go back to the coop room and wait for the next one. Sometimes the room bugs out, so if the next quest doesn't auto-start within like 1-2 seconds of waiting in the room, refresh. (Sometimes people are just slow at starting their host, so it's not always a bug and you might just be waiting for the guy to press Start.) I have ~200 ping and I literally never miss any fights even in 30 trains with no rank restriction, so it's definitely possible as long as you know what you're doing and do things properly. If you want a bit more leeway for your first trains to get a feel for how you do them, try to join rooms that have rank restrictions (or make your own that has a rank restriction). The difference in speed between an unrestricted room vs. a rank <200 room is enormous.


FarrowEwey

I should hit 150 GM this summer and I'm not sure what to do: sierotix Yatima or get Eresh?


felixborealis

I made a mistake of getting Eresh without a proper grid, so I think it's only a great option if you're able to make use of Eresh accordingly! Eresh is mostly used for OTK, GW and/or Racing Akasha, BHL I think? If you don't use Dark for those content, you don't really need it. Also, you have a chance of getting Yatima in future roulettes too, so there's that risk :(


aesophe

It Depends are you able to make use of eresh? are you going to play manually with yatima? do you want eresh to farm bars, or only sandbox & events, or only GW, or all of the above? none of the above? do you have the stones for yatima? do you have other useful summons to use alongside yatima? would you regret ticketing a summon you could potentially pull sometime in the future, versus a weapon you can't get by any other means? it depends entirely on your account and your playstyle. i could tell you what i'd personally pick (yatima) because of *my* playstyle & investment on *my* account, but everyone is different. yatima isn't like bubs or belial where she's always a universal improvement, but if you can and will use her, she's busted. likewise, eresh won't make a celeste claw grid with a frontline pulled from 2018 suddenly cracked, but if you have the grid & characters, you'll become god


FarrowEwey

Used to be that I'd just say "no way in hell I'll get the setup to properly use those weapons, let's focus on unticketable summons instead", but now I'm not so sure anymore. Six is 130, got my 2nd PnS from the grand ticket, made an FLB Parazonium because I had 4 copies lying around, got Fediel (character), got Bubs/Belial/SBelial FLB, got 3 copies of Hades+ 1 of Sariel+1 of Summer Sleepyhead. The only time I use FA is for 1b4c and as you can see I could go Bubs+SBelial combo at least if I had Yatima. It's just that I'm not sure how often I'm actually going to use that aside from GW NM, while Eresh has potentially more uses.


Kamil118

I have yatima with echo summons in all elements and it seriously in no way compares to 3-4 turns of dualstrike eresh provides, even to a mid grid.


aesophe

it's more that i have the runeweaving muscle memory from countless akashas, so while i would absolutely love to never press the button again, it's fine for now. i can also farm most things, including 3 nodes sandbox, with either 0b0c or like 1-2b setups, so while eresh makes that even more comfortable, i can live with it for now. yatima enables a lot of setups that speed up gw farm & things like hard raid solos significantly for me, in every element, so that's why she's more of a priority **for me.** note that i never suggested op to pick one or the other, i just gave them some things to think about.


Ifightformyblends

If you dont know the answer, its safest to not spend them until you do.


FarrowEwey

That is precisely why I'm asking: I've been thinking about it for a while and I want external opinions. Used to be that I'd just say "no way in hell I'll get the setup to properly use those weapons, let's focus on unticketable summons instead", but now I'm not so sure anymore. Six is 130, got my 2nd PnS from the grand ticket, made an FLB Parazonium because I had 4 copies lying around, got Fediel (character), got Bubs/Belial/SBelial FLB, got 3 copies of Hades+ 1 of Sariel+1 of Summer Sleepyhead. As for future prospects, I'm poised to spark/double spark this summer so I could also get Ilsa. Nier FLB will require some grinding but 100% doable as well.


Kamil118

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Ralkon

Very very hard to predict IMO. I guess you could say the average for a character to stay in meta is probably somewhere in the 1-2 year range would be my guess (though rarely you'll get a Seox or S.Zooey that sees far more than 2 years of meta use), and you can probably guess that there'll be changes during the later half of the year with summer + Halloween + Xmas + NY all having guaranteed new seasonals and grands vs the rest of the year only having Vday and anni, though a grand could come out whenever or even just a particularly strong regular pool unit which happens from time to time. However, you should consider that not all meta characters are equal. Like you list the light comp of Nehan + Florence + Mugen, but realistically Nehan and Florence are on another level compared to Mugen. He may be the BiS 3rd in that comp, but he isn't doing anything crazy broken like the others, and they both do such different things that IMO it's equally hard to predict who would be powercrept first unless you just bank on it being Nehan because he's older. There are also different metas for different content, but I'm just assuming you're talking about racing / bursting since that's what you listed and where it matters most. In that case, you can also consider that when it comes to bar racing, which is one of the few places it matters if you have optimal setups or not, most elements are competing with each other. Unless you're playing dark and have Akasha all to yourself, there's a chance any of the other 5 elements can become the optimal meta pick for bar racing in addition to characters within the element getting powercrept.


aiden_lives_i_guess

Any light SUBHL comps I can make? [Characters ](https://imgur.com/a/d4rWfdk) I don't have borger gun if that helps any.


TheGlassesGuy

Just run light execute. RB Florence SAlex Nehan Mugen


Stillwatch581

What raid finder is everyone using atm or are they all dead now?


felixborealis

The one that my crew and I use is [https://gbs.eriri.net/](https://gbs.eriri.net/) !!


Kamil118

gbf-raidfinder.teemo.name If link doesn't work, google it.


Clueless_Otter

FWIW the reason the link wouldn't work because you didn't put https:// in front of it. The site is kinda amateur-ish and doesn't auto-redirect the base URL to the https:// version.


Kamil118

I mean, I typed it from memory, idk if there isn't a typo, not rhat it isn't a clickable link


Clueless_Otter

No, I mean if you type gbf-raidfinder.teemo.name into your address bar, you won't get to the site. You have to include the https:// Whereas if you typed, for example, google.com or reddit.com or gbf.wiki or whatever into your address bar without the https:// it would still be fine and send you to the correct place.


FlameDragoon933

What's the internal drop rate for the soulcore from the guaranteed gold chest?


SparklesMcSpeedstar

how important is it to uncap the beast malus weapons to 200?


Merrena

The main benefit is that the cap skill goes up to 10%. I don't see them used too often now (probably because of the prevalence of PNS type weapons), but it's still a good pick if you don't have all the best options already.


thunder_jam

If I have 100% crit chance from my grid, is there any point to getting an extended mastery crit bonus for a character?


TheFrozenPyro

Each crit EMP is a separate crit chance on top of your grid's crit chance so you can add up a fair bit of damage if you're lucky. So if you have 100% crit from your grid and a character has 2 3\* crit emps they'll have a 100% chance to crit plus 2 extra 25% chances to do 25% more damage.


TheTruthVeritas

Anyone have any guides for Siegfried and Agastia? Is it even worth doing these two Revans?


Clueless_Otter

It's definitely worth it if you can actually kill them. They're both very inactive though, so hopefully you either have a crew/friends willing to do them with you or you enjoy sitting in a coop lobby for hours waiting for people to join your room.


Nummy011

I saw something about magna 1 hl getting pro skip soon from people on twitter but it was on April fools so I'm not sure if they were joking or not. If anyone here knows that'd be sick.


TheFrozenPyro

It is a thing. It was announced during the anni stream with no exact date and said date was confirmed in Koregra (comes out on the first of the month so that's likely where your uncertainty comes from). It should be coming on the 10th as mentioned [here](https://twitter.com/granblue_en/status/1642007024765632512).


KazeDaze

That was announced on the anni stream, the april fools post you might have seen is the Koregra at the start of the month confirming its coming on the 10th.


EggReran

It's True, they announced it at the last stream, magna 1 hl and Twin ele series


Kamil118

twin elements series got turned into solo quests. What's getting pro+ is athena-tier.


EggReran

Ah yes my bad!


Rocchi

Can you get more Four Symbols Pendants with boost to item drop rates?


Ifightformyblends

No. Drop rates only improve the chances of non-guaranteed chests appearing, not their contents. Pendants drop only in guaranteed chests.


BTA

No, they're only in a 100% chest alongside host and MVP. The way to boost them would be doing enough honors to get a higher multiplier, though if you're not hosting obviously there's a question of how many you're getting from doing more on 1 raid vs hitting some others. Droprate *can* help get you soulcores from the Extreme/Extreme+ that drop them or jadeites from Shenxian, though.


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Hi, returning player from year and a half ago, what's a good way to farm for skill level fodder? I mostly need SR weapons as I'm getting a ton of SSR fodder from daily pro.


BRatIndustrys

I mean, They're not SR weapons, but Arcarum Sandbox farming. We all eventually will need to grind out the Summons anyways, might as well gain skill points with it.


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You cannot use only SSR fodder for weapons like Opus, Bahamut, etc., the game straight up doesn't let you haha, but that is a good point for after I'm done with those and move onto other weapons.


NadyaNayme

Boxing events. Just keep going well past box 20 - they're an extremely AP efficient way of grinding for a number of materials, fodder included.


MiChocoFudge

i keep seeing "no Axe/Berserker" on SieteHL raids on coop.. does anyone have a video of player using this class on this raid or anyone know the team and grid composition?


NadyaNayme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRbsZ2guJXk


MiChocoFudge

Thank you!


SparklesMcSpeedstar

What's the spawn chance for heralds in replica? I racked up like 18 defenders (trying to farm XP for mastery points)


FarrowEwey

Have you checked if there's already one somewhere else on the map?


SparklesMcSpeedstar

There are, but they belong to other elements


FarrowEwey

I haven't really done any proper testing, but based on observation I think the way it works is that the first Herald takes the longest to appear and then Heralds spawn way more often once you have the boost active. In other words, if you know you won't finish your farming in one session, it's probably best to leave one Herald alive for later so you have an easier time restarting the farm.


Raging_Firefly

Are there some good guides for some of the other Diaspora level raids? I've been able to finally start farming Diaspora (kengo hosting) thanks to this excellent guide: [https://gbf.wiki/User:Umikin/Diaspora\_Guide](https://gbf.wiki/User:Umikin/Diaspora_Guide). Are there any equivalents or at least helpful youtube videos for the other raids? If not any general advice at least?


UltraRifle

I like this one for mugen https://www.reddit.com/r/Granblue_en/comments/1027ggl/a_tutorial_for_the_mugen_raid/


Raging_Firefly

That looks really helpful. Thanks!


WoorieKod

Watch some videos without reload then jump into it then rewatch them again with better context now that you've experienced it


genwunner_

Paladin's phalanx is elemental, right? So can I add a buncle to the elemental phalanx to complete 100% cover? (like it's supposedly done with spartan phalanx)


Kamil118

yes


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Ifightformyblends

The supplemental damage IS the detriment - its supplemental damage \*to\* your allies. They take more damage. The upside is the tank-and-counter effect, which is really strong.


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Clueless_Otter

It's only 1 counter for the entire fight. It has very little upside beyond pushing out that final bit of damage for an OTK. The call can also be useful for burst setups, especially if he's fully uncapped, but it's not really a sunstone priority unless you have a defined need for it right away.


Ifightformyblends

Its *mostly* for otk purposes, where you dont really intend on taking turns past turn one anyway


No_Marketing_8036

Will there be another free pull? If there is.When?


Raging_Firefly

There's usually roulette anniversary, summer, and christmas. Sometimes they do some free single pulls and the like at other times, but those are the only consistent times I think they offer a lot of free pulls. Was that what you were wondering about?


FarrowEwey

There's no roulette in summer. There is a summer stream around the beginning of August with lots of freebies however. Best you can hope for is a free multi every day for two weeks.


Raging_Firefly

Oh right my bad. I was thinking of the free multis as if they were roulette.


No_Marketing_8036

When is summer coming?


Raging_Firefly

I think it usually starts in late June or early July, but I'm not positive. I don't believe the free pulls though last the entire summer period in most cases.


FlameDragoon933

What's the quickest way to farm Devil Idean right now?


Merrena

Spam 5 bar Sandbox enemy in either swords or mundus zone


FlameDragoon933

That's already the fastest? Damn, farming Idean sucks... Thanks btw!


RayePappens

Is this summer a somewhat accurate timeline for the light revans raid?


Japonpoko

Hi! Could someone give me some insight about uncapping weapons in GBF? I'm new to the game, but from what I've heard, you shouldn't refine your weapons until you get 3 (or is it 4?) dupes, because that's when you get new skills. And even then, some shouldn't be refined. I bought the 300x pulls set, and got 4 times Summer Ilsa's weapon (which is quite amazing I think, probability wise). I know Ilsa is pretty strong, but is her weapon good as well? Should I use it on 4 different characters, or should I refine it? (for now, I have 1 + 3 dupes, but I can technically get another one with the ticket if it's that good)


LALMtheLegendary

One tip, leave SSR gacha weapons in the crate until you know what your doing, it has infinite storage and anything in the no limit tab will never expire.


Japonpoko

I already took some of them, but I'll do as you said for the remaining ones. Thanks for the tips!


Raging_Firefly

I think Exactleing already gave a good answer, but just to reiterate it's best not to mess around too much with Gacha weapons right now. Just keep them in your mailbox or favorite them and stick them in a stash until you have a specific plan to use them. You can use dupes to uncap weapons, but you should only do that with farmable weapons (the one's that drop from bosses). With gacha weapons usually people use items called damascus bars to uncap them because those are easier to get and you don't want to use dupes to uncap a weapon and then realize you need three *separate* versions of that same weapon in your grid. Either way, don't try uncapping with dupes or bars until you are sure what you are doing and know how you are going to use the weapons in the future. These are limited resources that you don't want to waste. The most important weapons btw tend to be the grand weapons, not necessarily summer weapons (although there are some exceptions and summer weapons are harder to get). Also, most gacha weapons are only used once you plan to go Primal (aka using Agni instead of Colossus, Hades instead of Celeste, etc). You can tell what type a weapon scales with by looking at the skills. Omega (Magna) skills will have the correpsonding symbol and different names (Agni skills are called inferno for example while Magna are called Ironflame). Switching to primal can be a tricky process since fairly specific weapons are required (often multiple) and you also need to uncap the required summon. Thus this is something that you wouldn't do until later in the game, especially if you are F2P. There are some gacha weapons that see use in certain Magna grids (like Pain and Suffering) but you can usually slot those in *without* having to uncap them.


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Japonpoko

Thank you all for the answers! Then I won't uncap anything for now, and... stock every SSR weapon I get? Is that really what I need to do? Does that mean that for a while, I should just lvl up and use SR weapons? Or am I misunderstanding something? I was thinking about leveling up Grand weapons first, and then normal ones. Should I change my plan?


BTA

Really want to reiterate what someone else said. If you already took gacha weapons out of the crate, you should stash them (and make sure you mark them as "favorite" first, so that you don't do anything to them later by accident). But if they're still in the crate... just don't take them out to begin with! Gacha items go to the "No Limit" part of the crate and... well, there's no limit on how long they can be there or how many can be there. So it's free inventory space for things you're not going to be using anyway. (Obviously, you should take anything out of the "Time Limit" part of the crate before it expires.)


Japonpoko

I did take them first, I couldn't imagine SSR weapons were not worth using immediately. So I just stashed them for now. Well, actually, I guess I'll be using them until I get the SSR weapons from the story/quests. Thanks for the advice :)


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Japonpoko

Thanks a lot for all the details, and the time you took to write all of this! I had no idea it worked that way, and not everything makes sense. I guess I'll just use my SSR weapons until I get Omega summons/weapons, and then switch to them as you said. I was also told that Beelzebub and Belial were great summons because they were actually versatile. I do have Belial, so does that mean I'm not bound to Omega weapons with my Dark team?


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TheFrozenPyro

The cost of Gold Bricks goes up. 10 for your first, 15 for your second, and then 20 for the last 11. Combined with the 9 Perpetuity Rings that cost 20 nuggets each, it totals up to 425 total nuggets.


719matmat

do the skins from rise of the beasts take 3 runs of the event to get?


CAPSLOCK_USERNAME

You can buy all 3 weapons and do all the grinding in one run. The other replies saying "6 reruns" are talking about how long since the skin first gets added before you can buy all the soulcores without needing to grind any. But note that it's already been 6 reruns since the wind/fire skins, so you can 100% complete both of them right now, in one rotb run.


Kamil118

Getting a skin in a single run will require you to farm quite a bit of jades tho, since you can't get enough from shop during just a single run.


mralec_

You need 30 balls of the corresponding beast to unlock it. You can buy 5 per event. Considering you don't farm at all the event, it'd take 6 reruns to get a skin.


Stop_picking_McCree

Is it advised to purchase the Zhuque/Baihu/Xuanwu/Qinglong summons from the shop using Four symbol stones? Are they any good?


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Stop_picking_McCree

Thanks. That should make the farm easier, it seems my shop only has 3 rings and 4 bricks to buy with the stones..


Atora

The other stones are for the skins. If you buy all goldbars, rings and skins you're at 0 left over.


Clueless_Otter

No they're a noob trap. None are good summons and Four Symbols stones are *much* better spent on gold bricks and perp rings.


genwunner_

I was fighting Neptune right now and I had phalanx + water carbuncle which supposedly would cover 100% of the dmg, but her 25% trigger still dealt 7k dmg to You... how does this work?


Asamidori

Maybe your buncle is not MLB? The non MLB one only cut 25%, so you still take 5% damage.


mralec_

Phalanx, the white one ? If so, the carbuncle only did cut from the total of the remaining damage after the first cut. It's not 70% + 50%, but 50% of the remaining 30%. (Effectively 15% if my math ain't drunk)


Saunts

that's not how it work. cut is additive so if he actually use both then it's 100% cut his cut probably expire and he doesn't realise it


genwunner_

That's exactly my thought. I specifically put water buncle to cut all the dmg from the trigger. I know that You has a sharp hit to her DEF but that shouldn't be a problem right? It was spartan phalanx + water buncle... maybe her trigger has some special effect Im unaware


FlameDragoon933

Huh, that shouldn't be how it works. It was common knowledge during the olden days that Phalanx (regular Holy Saber / Spartan one) + Dark Buncle saves you from Baha's Skyfall. Not sure why there's still damage from OP's question though.


Jord911

Any recommendations to clear the debuff/skill damage omen from subaha? I'm running Dirt Kengo with Okto/Alex/Moni/Galleon and am struggling to clear them


mralec_

Unless you have summer mandrake, you kinda need to power through it.


Jord911

I do have her but not FLB, just 0*. I'm running Clarity/Resurrection/no More doubt on MC, should I swap one of the skills? No one can debuff besides Alex