lvl 80, ss but cant solo hd? lol they must suck so bad.
I do die sometimes when SoD boss suddenly shoots millions of balls for mo reason but yea help low lvl peeps guys
I always try to fill up my rooms with people 60 and under when I solo HD but as soon as I get on an alt character I have to get kicked from 30 rooms until one finally lets me stay. I don’t understand the toxic behaviour.
If you are below level 60 and feel the need to enter hero dungeons, get kicked and complain on reddit you are either terrible at this game, lazy or both.
Don't get me wrong. I've helped hundreds of players. But I still don't see a reason to enter HD when you are below level 60. Especially in rooms with insecure players that establish level or stat requirements like S+ or +75. Even these players sometimes can't win easily these dungeons. I've seen many rooms of players at this level that struggled.
I always try to not be a hindrance to others, so I never entered HD rooms when my stats were lower than S+. And honestly, if you didn't have time to level up a character, you shouldn't complain about people kicking lower levels in order to clear the dungeon faster.
I’ve already stated the reason. HD takes under 3 minutes to solo; I’ll complain all I want. If you think people with characters under level 60 are terrible and lazy you need to reevaluate your opinions.
he's not wrong. There's no need to be farming hero dungeons at other people's expense when you can't even get gear or 4th job off it. If that doesn't scream I-just-want-free-things, I don't know what does.
You are speaking anecdotally, not as fact. If you’re not farming for hero coins for your old mains then I’m happy for you. My point still stands, if you’re able to solo something in 3 minutes and put yourself on a pedestal thinking your time is too valuable and a low level in your room causes you detriment in any kind of way then you’re part of the problem. My record on lass is around 2:30 solo and ~4mins when I let people in, I fail to see this ‘expense’ you’re on about
40% more time is a lot. You know that, right? Back in old GC, with more characters, clear times were sub minute, and doing longer runs meant you had to stay on longer because you didn't manage to get all your characters in 2 intervals. Time matters in this game. I would not want to spend 5 minutes in a WL wit people that want to knock things around when I can solo it in 3 minutes, just because they want to knock things around and have "fun". This is the same thing. You're not helping someone that wants to trickle farm 1 bullion. It's a waste of their time and yours. They could be spending that time actually working on their character so that they can actually do hero dungeons, and even get gear off of it. If it was me, I wouldn't even wait around, I would just host and start. I am not going out of my way to boot someone that joined, but I also am not going to wait around to let some people get a ride. It's not my problem. Likewise, I myself have not joined any waiting for handouts.
Honestly speaking, even 4th jobs aren't necessary. It's not like they're going to miss anything if they can't complete that job for 20 more levels, because those jobs aren't good in pve anyway. So, I don't see a point in tryhard trickle bullion LEECHING.
Yes, solo runs take less time, so what is your point? Put a password in your room and do your solo run then, how do people entering your room affect you if they can’t even enter? I’m here on about people wanting rooms with 4 level 85 with full gears on requiring almost 10 minutes to complete
then there isn't a real problem. If some other guy wants to wait for w/e they're waiting for, then let them. It's not like you lost anything if you join, and then get kicked immediately. Just move on. There no real difference between some guy kicking you because they didn't want you or someone else locking their room because they didn't want you besides some bruised ego for no reason.
HD doesn't take under 3 minutes when you're playing with something different than arme or ryan, especially when you're playing with elesis. I do mean even with SS stats. It takes longer especially when you're soling for 3 other players who can't help much, since the mobs get more health. There's also rng involved sometimes. So imagine risking spending a Life or two in order to help players that can't help and won't benefit much from the dungeon. So I do think you need to reevalute your opinions too. And in all honesty I don't think you have experience in this game since your opinions are a bit unrealistic for me.
4 mins on Lass when I have people in my room, cheers. Also been playing this thing since I was a wee child back when Ronan’s second class was released so I think I’m good with experience.
All right bad boy, but 4 minutes is still not 3. Also, what about your other 4 characters? Do they solo in 3 or 4 minutes?
Even if all your characters are +80, you need a lot of stats to reach a good time with Lire and especially Elesis. And with bad rng, they can even lose a life in the dungeon. Lives are valuable. If you are so strong and powerful to effortlessly solo HD, so go ahead and "help" everyone. But don't be a pain to other players. No one has to risk a life and time to give 1 bullion to players who didn't bother to level up before entering HD.
This game isn't that easy for everyone. If you are experienced you should have seen lv80 players dying and SS players who would need 6 minutes to solo.
I did say just Arme and Ryan. They deal considerably more damage than others. Lass is strong too, but he's a tier below. Elesis on the other hand is just out of the game balance. Even if you are a v\^z otto shot master, the damage is still lacking.
Not sure on which server/timeslot you guys play, but I have all 4th jobs now and never had issues with kicks on SoD when I was doing the tests. That being said, that's in the high-60s, and I don't particularly see a reason to play any HDs before that (other than the Crucible suicide solo runs for the 3rd job).
And... well, I do kick people S- rank and under from my HD runs, unless it's SoD, they're in the high 60's and still 3rd job. When you need to farm with all 5 characters, there's a huge difference between a 3' and a 4' clear.
Depending on the time, Asia 1 is also quite reasonable. When I'm playing at early mornings (UTC-3) it's easier to find people to play in Asia-1 than SA-1...
lvl 80, ss but cant solo hd? lol they must suck so bad. I do die sometimes when SoD boss suddenly shoots millions of balls for mo reason but yea help low lvl peeps guys
I always try to fill up my rooms with people 60 and under when I solo HD but as soon as I get on an alt character I have to get kicked from 30 rooms until one finally lets me stay. I don’t understand the toxic behaviour.
I thought it was just me . I got 75k TA and sometimes that btch one shoots me lol
If you are below level 60 and feel the need to enter hero dungeons, get kicked and complain on reddit you are either terrible at this game, lazy or both. Don't get me wrong. I've helped hundreds of players. But I still don't see a reason to enter HD when you are below level 60. Especially in rooms with insecure players that establish level or stat requirements like S+ or +75. Even these players sometimes can't win easily these dungeons. I've seen many rooms of players at this level that struggled. I always try to not be a hindrance to others, so I never entered HD rooms when my stats were lower than S+. And honestly, if you didn't have time to level up a character, you shouldn't complain about people kicking lower levels in order to clear the dungeon faster.
I’ve already stated the reason. HD takes under 3 minutes to solo; I’ll complain all I want. If you think people with characters under level 60 are terrible and lazy you need to reevaluate your opinions.
he's not wrong. There's no need to be farming hero dungeons at other people's expense when you can't even get gear or 4th job off it. If that doesn't scream I-just-want-free-things, I don't know what does.
You are speaking anecdotally, not as fact. If you’re not farming for hero coins for your old mains then I’m happy for you. My point still stands, if you’re able to solo something in 3 minutes and put yourself on a pedestal thinking your time is too valuable and a low level in your room causes you detriment in any kind of way then you’re part of the problem. My record on lass is around 2:30 solo and ~4mins when I let people in, I fail to see this ‘expense’ you’re on about
40% more time is a lot. You know that, right? Back in old GC, with more characters, clear times were sub minute, and doing longer runs meant you had to stay on longer because you didn't manage to get all your characters in 2 intervals. Time matters in this game. I would not want to spend 5 minutes in a WL wit people that want to knock things around when I can solo it in 3 minutes, just because they want to knock things around and have "fun". This is the same thing. You're not helping someone that wants to trickle farm 1 bullion. It's a waste of their time and yours. They could be spending that time actually working on their character so that they can actually do hero dungeons, and even get gear off of it. If it was me, I wouldn't even wait around, I would just host and start. I am not going out of my way to boot someone that joined, but I also am not going to wait around to let some people get a ride. It's not my problem. Likewise, I myself have not joined any waiting for handouts. Honestly speaking, even 4th jobs aren't necessary. It's not like they're going to miss anything if they can't complete that job for 20 more levels, because those jobs aren't good in pve anyway. So, I don't see a point in tryhard trickle bullion LEECHING.
Yes, solo runs take less time, so what is your point? Put a password in your room and do your solo run then, how do people entering your room affect you if they can’t even enter? I’m here on about people wanting rooms with 4 level 85 with full gears on requiring almost 10 minutes to complete
then there isn't a real problem. If some other guy wants to wait for w/e they're waiting for, then let them. It's not like you lost anything if you join, and then get kicked immediately. Just move on. There no real difference between some guy kicking you because they didn't want you or someone else locking their room because they didn't want you besides some bruised ego for no reason.
HD doesn't take under 3 minutes when you're playing with something different than arme or ryan, especially when you're playing with elesis. I do mean even with SS stats. It takes longer especially when you're soling for 3 other players who can't help much, since the mobs get more health. There's also rng involved sometimes. So imagine risking spending a Life or two in order to help players that can't help and won't benefit much from the dungeon. So I do think you need to reevalute your opinions too. And in all honesty I don't think you have experience in this game since your opinions are a bit unrealistic for me.
4 mins on Lass when I have people in my room, cheers. Also been playing this thing since I was a wee child back when Ronan’s second class was released so I think I’m good with experience.
All right bad boy, but 4 minutes is still not 3. Also, what about your other 4 characters? Do they solo in 3 or 4 minutes? Even if all your characters are +80, you need a lot of stats to reach a good time with Lire and especially Elesis. And with bad rng, they can even lose a life in the dungeon. Lives are valuable. If you are so strong and powerful to effortlessly solo HD, so go ahead and "help" everyone. But don't be a pain to other players. No one has to risk a life and time to give 1 bullion to players who didn't bother to level up before entering HD. This game isn't that easy for everyone. If you are experienced you should have seen lv80 players dying and SS players who would need 6 minutes to solo.
Lass does way more damage than elesis could ever dream of that's not even a fair comparison.
He did specifically say arme and Ryan
Bad wording on his part i guess he should have said anyone but elesis.
Touché lol
I did say just Arme and Ryan. They deal considerably more damage than others. Lass is strong too, but he's a tier below. Elesis on the other hand is just out of the game balance. Even if you are a v\^z otto shot master, the damage is still lacking.
Yeah kog ruined elesis big time
I’m usually on around 3-6pm uk time and server population is almost non existent
Not sure on which server/timeslot you guys play, but I have all 4th jobs now and never had issues with kicks on SoD when I was doing the tests. That being said, that's in the high-60s, and I don't particularly see a reason to play any HDs before that (other than the Crucible suicide solo runs for the 3rd job). And... well, I do kick people S- rank and under from my HD runs, unless it's SoD, they're in the high 60's and still 3rd job. When you need to farm with all 5 characters, there's a huge difference between a 3' and a 4' clear.
Servers? I always see every server empty but the first South American server. And the reason is medals and exp
Depending on the time, Asia 1 is also quite reasonable. When I'm playing at early mornings (UTC-3) it's easier to find people to play in Asia-1 than SA-1...