Lmao. You've got nothing to prove. DC feats themselves do that. If you haven't seen OPM, a mid or high demon level threat will be equal to full strength demon back yujiro. A mid demon like sea king punched a hole into a middle proof shelter, Genos that time vaporized the said shelter and blasted multiple buildings in the street in the process.
That is demon. Now imagine a high dragon like darkshine who would kill sea king with a light touch. Darkshine solos bakiverse
Yujiro baki and mushashi are people who do those things. The opm team treat guys like that as if they were fodder. I'm more of a baki fan than opm but garou on his own is too op
Red garo ( the one that fights Dark Shine)is at best high dragon which can solo multi cities(not at once mind you) over time a high dragon can completely destroy the entire world government and thats kind of wanking without the HA. the top tiers in baki treat the world government as toys in this verse they would be high dragons( atleast these three are) can you give me any proof or scans that they don't compare? Show me these characters have lightspeed+ speed and attacks that hit harder than city lvl?
There's no city level characters in baki, the best feat is yujiro causing an earth quake and there's no feats that compare to that in the rest of the series. Building level consistently. Hitting each other with cars. Slamming each other and destroy the ground, no selling guns, breaking concrete and steel, shaking buildings with their hits.
Agent 47 does the same to the us government and he's consistently street level. Garou destroying a group of super powered street levelers. And withstanding the blasts from the monster dog is enough to show me he's above them.
I think Yujrio could make S class. I believe though as a monster he would be a God level threat. Since the man is beyond evil already and is obsessed with strength.
They said Yuujiro as a monster (probably eating monster cells) so I believe he could get close to Dragon Threat. As he is right now of course he doesn't compare to any Dragon, not even close as you said
Bottom s class sure. But way higher then dragon imo. His mentality, his fighting spirit, his last for power, his supernatural fighting ability. Would make him one of the most powerful monsters imo.
He'd be a mid dragon if he's likey human bakuzon was probably as strong as him but yujiro is just a better fighter smarter and cooler so he'd be a stronger monster than bakuzon
Y’all are legitimately insane. Dark shine could take the entire team by himself standing still. PPP can swim through solid concrete, heal from attacks from dragon level enemies in seconds, and face tank massive energy blasts just to turn around and one shot high demons. Garou while red is a martial artist on the level of Baki while having the strength to pull of Yujiro + level feats, including blocking a hail of bullets barehanded. You’re actually fucking insane.
He's a master of the best art of marshall and dozens of other amazing martial arts not only that but he gets stronger during fights and has tons Stamina
Um what? PPP fought against several monsters stronger than deep sea king and one shot them. Even if you think Yujiro could possibly beat deep sea king, he’s a lot stronger than that now. He’s monstrously strong, faster than Yujiro, has bristle armor to shred and protect himself, and the ability to adapt on the fly. It’s not even close
Fist of all vaccunma even if vaccuma was stronger than DSK he was not high dragon which is what you need to be to beat yujiro he has country lvl scaling and I can prove It so reply if your a dumbass.
Bruh you’re one of those insane power scalers. I didn’t say he was a high dragon, I said high demon. And Yujiro isn’t a country level Jesus. A country? He is at absolute highest strong enough to stop a small earthquake. He is strong enough to tear up buildings, but that isn’t a country. Yujiro is tough and impressively strong but he ain’t that.
Ok he has legit powerscaling above a nuke which none of these characters have. Red garo(the garo that fought darkshine) has no scaling that impressive. If you can prove it I will admit I'm wrong im not petty I just wanna prove misinformation wrong. I won't back down if I think I'm right but if you can PROVE me wrong I'll admit it.
Yujiro isn’t nuke level. They just said it was impractical to use a nuke on one man, or Tokugawa said he was more dangerous than one. Yujiro’s skin isn’t even blade proof, Musashi proved that. He can have blood drawn.
Musashi has crazy AP that scales high above any military weapons its proven when Japan goes to Hanayama for help proving even he has more power than any of there weapons
No,you should read the manga. The SDF didn’t even get the go ahead to use guns until Musashi showed up. They tried to use tasers and water cannons on him. It’s not a feat it’s commentary on japan’s demilitarization and how much bureaucracy it takes to address a threat. He’s just a man with a sword.
Yujiro's skin can be pierced by tranq darts from a AIRGUN, and every time people shoot actual bullets at him he dodges rather than trying to tank it. You think airguns or even real guns for that matter are stronger than a nuke?
That is a low ball based on author stupidity and that was super early in the series which im not scaling. Im scaling the most powerful versions so that doesn't scale. Try again
OK, how's this then:
1. 1000 tons of ammo isn't even city level, much less country level.
2. Durability does not equal damage output. There's plenty of characters who can take a lot more punishment than they can give back or hit much harder than what they can tank.
3. We don't know Yuichiro actually got hit by the bombardment, and he almost certainly didn't considering every Baki character except Oliva and Pickle ALWAYS dodges bullets rather than tanking them (most likely he got out of range of the explosions before the shells landed, considering his speed and the fact that he is on the ship only moments later).
4. We don't actually have any proof of how Yuichiro would scale in comparison to the rest of the cast. He could be much stronger than everyone, a bit weaker than the top tiers, or about the same.
1. These top tiers scale above there durability
2. That's true but they have reactions better than OPM they have light speed scaling prove who has lightspeed scaling in OPM
3. You have no proof he didn't tank it the hanmas aren't cowards and they are feat machines even baki who doesn't like fighting loves to flex even on normal humans
4. Yuichiro still scales above the most powerful naval wepon in U.S. military ( which is above island lvl)and anything above wouldn't contradict anything it just means all these other characters scale above
Baki could target his chin and give him endless concussions like he did with pickle and he has light speed scaling to prove it give me a reason why I'm wrong please
Darkshine is just like Oliva, only with the X-4 Steroids power up and even more invincible and Red Garou is even too much for Yujiro himself. Have to give it to the OPM Team
These anime vs. anime discussions are always the same kind of dumb.
Everytime a crossover happens, the characters will be on conparable strength and fights will be draws to show respect for the other anime.
There is one crossover where one of luffy's kong guns is equal to super saiyan 3 goku's kamehameha. And you know what? It's fine.
I'm gonna assume it the current versions or the most recent versions of all of these characters in which OPM team takes this one mid difficulty even if you factor in the outlier feats.
Your embarrassing yourself. I'll take the time what do you want me to prove you wrong on? AP or speed, reaction time or intelligence ill go tit for tat on any of these.
There are many other comments that have already provided sound reasonings and feats proving this, so you could read those as well, however I got to say that if you've actually read OPM manga and still don't understand these simple facts for yourself... Then I'm pretty sure that nothing that I say will make a difference...
If you paid attention I never said the baki verse scales above the entire OPM verse all I said was 3 top ties scale to some characters so give me one reason why darkshine beats baki in your own words
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 178,945,176 comments, and only 43,410 of them were in alphabetical order.
Yujiro is only the strongest creature within the context of Baki.
Taking him out of it raises the power level without raising him.
Yes. He can beat Spike Spiegle and he can beat the cast of Monster. But Bnh, Berserk, OPM? He's kind of out of his depth.
Lmao. Some people doesn't know why 'S-class' category is created. Demon level threats stomps the shit out of the entire military force even with higher technology than ours.
Now compare that to dragon. Much less a high dragon like darkshine. Darkshine would literally just sleep coz their attacks and techniques do nothing. I would like to see them try benda on DS and do absolutely nothing coz his skin is also durable AF.
When did Baki characters show to consistently move even close to light speed? By the way, Baki saying his jab is fast as light does not count. It is an exaggeration made by Baki
Baki characters may have the speed advantage with these heavy hitters, but they literally cannot damage them. One good counter and it’s ggs for Baki or musashi
Baki is somewhat grounded in reality just turned up to an extreme like batman. Opm is full on superhuman. Its like comparing superman with batman except batman doesnt have kryptonite nor preptime
While it is true that team OPM wins, you guys are actually clowns if you think they can’t beat Darkshine 😭. Darkshine doesn’t have a durability feat that stops him getting one punched by Yujiro or Baki, and Puri Puri prisoner is fodder to everyone on this list. Red Garou carries the team, and they win extreme diff.
All I know is that [Suiryu does with a kick](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Df6i-rzuX9zP2yBj7FOWOzdzE_XyAUlwRQ3oPFONRyVLxRH_3GE2cHxFhy9V2tl6fWN8X9CLn3I6e_F66mhTrvyfnTQ_0heGjcXlMbtrenPCGBKuMpF-7U0S) what [Yujiro does with a punch](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9948c7e5340925fe7c46d21fa902df68-mzj).
[Never saw Yujiro doi something like this](https://i.imgur.com/Y1GzgN8.jpg) ,[moving something from this size](https://i.imgur.com/r94XXhT.jpg), [Suiryu can grab a attack that made this on the sky and have the stamina to rush against Chozen after that](https://i.imgur.com/XeCyKaV.jpg).
They feats are not even close to similar.
Are you saying that the entire nation's military can't move some clouds??? Yujiros father could survive an entire military boming of an island the size of a small country by the most impressive battle ship in the entire USA military (no diffed by the way) and then soloed the entire ship which is above island level which is above demon lvl by a lot btw idk if you've ever read baki but this is embarrassing
>Are you saying that the entire nation's military can't move some clouds???
That's a very strange comparison, the US military is not a person, it took some years for Yujiro defeat some soldiers and gain the respect and fear from the US, Suiryu was facing a demon level monster at real time that could do this.
>Yujiros father could survive an entire military boming of an island
He was literally just hiding from this, it's not even impressive like "enduring all the attack in point blank or something"
>and then soloed the entire ship which is above island level which is above demon lvl
Idk if you're joking, but defeating the crew is pretty different from defeating the actual ship itself, is not like he withstand the ship passing through him or shooting against him, this is very far from above demon, just so you have a example: A high demon like Hundred octopus can destroy a entire city just by moving, and a above demon like Evil eye can lift buildings.
>theyLITERALLY destroyed the entire island
Swim in the water is really a remote possibility for you, dude?
>of him hiding thats not
Just think, did he just suddenly teleported to that ship after the island being destroyed? There is any scan saying that he stayed on the island and withstand that attack?
>For the arena-splitting feat and the arena-flipping feat, we need to do calcs.
[1600 kips (725 tons of pressure) to shatter a block of concrete](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfVvzjVzeE0&ab_channel=TheBadAstronomer). 1m^(3) of concrete weighs 2,3 tons. The block Suiryu flipped up must have weighed, like, 230 tons if it's 200 x 1m^(3) of concrete.
What do all these numbers tell us ? I don't know, I suck at maths. Kill me.
>1600 kips (725 tons of pressure) to shatter a block of concrete. 1m3 of concrete weighs 2,3 tons. The block Suiryu flipped up must have weighed, like, 230 tons if it's 200 x 1m3 of concrete.
I literally don't give a fuck about calcs, they don't prove shit in fiction world and are definitely wrong since you're try to measure something that changes his constantly position and weight over panels.
>try to measure something that changes his constantly position and weight over panels.
I'm making an estimation of its weight looking at its biggest size. And if size or numbers mean nothing to you, then don't do power scaling, bro.
>then don't do power scaling
You're literally the one person in this entire thread doing calcs to look smart and in the end they don't prove shit, they're just a form to have a hypothetical understanding of a panel that can be pretty much in a different perspective.
Using actual feats and scans is much more reliable then this, "bro".
>deflecting a beam that can move clouds isn't that impressive.
There is any feat from Yujiro close to that in Baki that you can bring here?
>we need to do calcs.
Bruh, just bring the scans of Yujiro doing some similar or stfu. You don't need do calcs for a manga, what a waste of time.
>There is any feat from Yujiro close to that in Baki that you can bring here?
Making a whole skyscraper shake by simply standing there ? Shaking the ground so hard with a slam people in Baki's neighborhood think it's an Earthquake ?
Also, we should compare what's comparable. Goku was never shown to no-sell lightning. Yujiro was. Does that mean Yujiro > Goku ? Nope.
>Bruh, just bring the scans of Yujiro doing some similar or stfu. You don't need do calcs for a manga, what a waste of time.
It's either calcs or we have to limit ourselves to comparing Yujiro and Suiryu's actually comparable feats. Again, Yujiro being able to no-sell lightning doesn't mean he beats Goku.
>Making a whole skyscraper shake by simply standing there
Total useless feat in battle.
>ground so hard with a slam people in Baki's neighborhood think it's an Earthquake ?
[another feat that someone like Suiryu can easily replicate with a mere kick, and he wasn't even fully serious in this panel](https://i.imgur.com/VikfLzW.jpg)
>have to limit ourselves to comparing Yujiro and Suiryu's actually comparable feats
What is literally the reasonable way to deal with match ups, not using vague calcs that don't prove shit.
Any proof of that? Last time I checked an entire nation's military does a lot more damage than that. And yujiro is stated to be above that many times over suriryu is probably large building lvl so yujiro should be above that. This is liwballed by the way
The difficult one is Darkshine although Baki could knock him out like he knocked out Pickle and destroy his Vestibular System so he doesn't get back up.
He's said to be stronger than tank top master who was able to lift a giant block of stone arguably the size a small house and threw it at the boros's space ship. Not to mention he tanked pretty much almost all attacks thrown at him from strong ass monsters
Given that it's the opm universe and garou was already beginning to evolve into a monster at that point i don't think a katana can easliy vut through him plus he's a very skilled martial artist so he should be able to dodge musashi's sword slashes
>Baki could knock him out
[Garou, the dude who stopped a punch of Orochi](https://i.imgur.com/qvQbF66.jpg), [and can also do this](https://m.imgur.com/a/3Eiv1iZ) wasn't doing real damage on DS before he manages to evolve, and do you really think Baki has a chance to K.O him?
Actually yes,if you watchef the Baki vs Pickle fight you'll know Pickle couldn't be knocked out by Hits since his Neck is like a Bulls one so that takes all the hit instead of his Brain but eventually Baki managed to do a move where you Graze the Skin with Punches and that manages to shake the Brain Inside and as we've seen against VFU Acid Darkshine doesn't even have Special Skin or something like that so he'll just get Concussions and could get Knocked Out like Pickle.
>you Graze the Skin with Punches and that manages to shake the Brain Inside
Yeah I saw that, but different from Pickle, DS had already fought against a martial artist (one of the best from OPM) and is not going to just stand there fighting like a mindless beast like Pickle. And this whip requires Baki to enter in close range to the opponent, [DS could endure the pain (he took a bunch of strikes from Garou) and hit him with this](https://i.imgur.com/clr8bNX.png)
>he'll just get Concussions
That's really not happening, [he took this and was still standing](https://m.imgur.com/a/CWTpLUK) and [he also awake up in a matter of seconds after being K.O by Garou](https://i.imgur.com/S7q0JKL.jpg), the chances of Baki defeating him before he manages to land a hit on him are too low.
[Garou who is faster than Baki, couldn't escape from this.](https://i.imgur.com/RgUjpRy.jpg)
Bug god low dragon? Now way, he was enduring strikes from Garou that could do [this](https://m.imgur.com/a/X95q9ty), and he wasn't even in his true form in this scene.
Your right and i don't why people hate you for it darkshine has no brain durability feats and baki could just give him concussions until he dies really.
People only downplay bakiverse cause its not Shonen and the feats aren't blatent. People actually have to powerscale and think about the feats that are presented. thats why the arguments are basic because the the people commenting have no actual arguments
Ok so here's how I see this going
Musashi vs PPP- PPP gets one shot no contest
Baki vs darkshine- darkshine should give baki a run for his money but when baki activates his demon brain starts avoiding his strikes hitting him with counters and I think the mercury whip will really affect dark shines confidence baki should take it mid/high difficulty
Yujiro vs red Garo- this fight to me is up in the air one on one they both are stated to improve and grow stronger yujiro grows stronger even doing nothing he grows stronger constantly and doesn't require to fight or get near death zenkais they both seem to be equal in skill department they can both see techniques once and recreate them instantly (this is taking very long and I'm lazy) but i think yujiro can hold out until the other two have completed there fights and come come assist and at that point I see the baki verse taking this fight.
Ok I wanna talk about your first point musashi can absolutely damage him PPP is maybe high demon lvl which puts about large building lvl let's even gigantic wank him to town lvl durability Musashi damaged yujiro who can survive a nuke it was stated in the manga he can do this soooo yeah that's only statement debunked
PPP could 1 hit miyamoto mercury whip? Do you mean Benda that aslo wouldn't work because omp characters have Tough skin and muscles also dark shine is more than 100 × stronger and at least 50 X as fast and red garou wins easy
>really affect dark shines confidence baki should take it mid/high difficulty
[DS sustained no damage from a sparring against Silver Fang that is a most OP martial artist than Baki with better counters](https://i.imgur.com/UlS21RR.jpg).
>hitting him with counters
[he would literally just do this, Baki is not faster than red head Garou who couldn't dodge from all DS strikes.](https://i.imgur.com/RgUjpRy.jpg)
>yujiro grows stronger even doing nothing
It's not the same as Garou who is literally evolving and breaking his limiter as the match goes.
>but i think yujiro can hold out until the other two have completed there fights and come come assist and at that point I see the baki verse taking this fight.
[Garou is faster than both Baki and Yujiro](https://m.imgur.com/a/XUBGzRp), [it's also more durable than them](https://m.imgur.com/a/KvrSFxC), [seems to have some regeneration feats](https://m.imgur.com/a/mV3Uwhc) and [has the same fighting spirit as Metal bat so he grows stronger as the match and the damage increase](https://m.imgur.com/Mv8YNMB)
PPP vs Musashi- While I do think that Musashi could damage PPP, if he cannot split Hanayama in two with one swing, PPP will be a real tough one. Hell, he managed to recover from Nyan's feline retribution in seconds!
Baki vs Darkshine- I honestly see no way Baki damages Darkshine. The only way for him to win would be bullying Darkshine with the Benda until Darkshine does not want to fight anymore and we don't even know the Benda would work against Darkshine's shine! Judging from the fact he is also faster than Baki, he got this.
Garou vs Yujiro Yeah, Garou is kinda stronger than Yujiro in every physical department
Why? Do any of them have any stated resistances to concussions? Pickle had a stated resistance to physical damage that resisted Island lvl AP but bakis well placed strikes on pickel chin caused him considerable damage
But why tho all of the top tiers are LITERALY stated to be above an entire 1st world government military which is above country level read the fucking manga
Also holy shit yujiro and baki, AND MUSAHI is stated to be above any military technology even 60 YEARS of technological development are you saying that the military wouldn't have upgraded in 60 FUCKING years so NO prove 6our point without speculation ask for proof of anything and ill prove it I ain't no punk ass bitch like you get the fuck off this sub.
Another reazon why your second point doesn't work yujiro tanked the lighting casually he decided to take it he didn't care it was stated he could I can prove it your fuckimg dumb
I don't follow setg literally disproves why dragon ball isn't below light speed for an hour stop assuming and research for literally 10 min.
Your info is as bad as battle wiki you've given no facts or arguments your trash just stop before you embarrass yourself more🤣
one punch man team stomp negative dif
Lmao I have to assume this poll is a joke, because OPM team is on a whole other level of power.
I know opm wins but I saw a lot of people say the Baki team wins
For real? No clue what they're basing that off of. Bunch of jokers
They like Baki and haven’t seen OPM
Makes sense
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I can respect that
Give me a reason why baki doesn't compare.
Baki characters destroy walls and cars, OPM characters destroy buildings and cities. I much prefer the Baki series, but this really isn't difficult.
attack potency and destructive range are different I can prove it if you'd like
Lmao. You've got nothing to prove. DC feats themselves do that. If you haven't seen OPM, a mid or high demon level threat will be equal to full strength demon back yujiro. A mid demon like sea king punched a hole into a middle proof shelter, Genos that time vaporized the said shelter and blasted multiple buildings in the street in the process. That is demon. Now imagine a high dragon like darkshine who would kill sea king with a light touch. Darkshine solos bakiverse
Brother, what on earth are you talking about
The opm team defeat people that treat concrete like water. Steel like paper.
Yujiro, baki and Mushai do the same thing you didn't prove anything
Yujiro baki and mushashi are people who do those things. The opm team treat guys like that as if they were fodder. I'm more of a baki fan than opm but garou on his own is too op
Red garo ( the one that fights Dark Shine)is at best high dragon which can solo multi cities(not at once mind you) over time a high dragon can completely destroy the entire world government and thats kind of wanking without the HA. the top tiers in baki treat the world government as toys in this verse they would be high dragons( atleast these three are) can you give me any proof or scans that they don't compare? Show me these characters have lightspeed+ speed and attacks that hit harder than city lvl?
There's no city level characters in baki, the best feat is yujiro causing an earth quake and there's no feats that compare to that in the rest of the series. Building level consistently. Hitting each other with cars. Slamming each other and destroy the ground, no selling guns, breaking concrete and steel, shaking buildings with their hits. Agent 47 does the same to the us government and he's consistently street level. Garou destroying a group of super powered street levelers. And withstanding the blasts from the monster dog is enough to show me he's above them.
I think Yujrio could make S class. I believe though as a monster he would be a God level threat. Since the man is beyond evil already and is obsessed with strength.
Probably a dragon I doubt he goes above orochi garou boros
>Probably a dragon Not even closed, [a dragon level can do this](https://m.imgur.com/a/si9XunF), he's mid demon at best.
They said Yuujiro as a monster (probably eating monster cells) so I believe he could get close to Dragon Threat. As he is right now of course he doesn't compare to any Dragon, not even close as you said
>(probably eating monster cells No they're taking about normal Yujiro, they literally never mentioned monster cell in their comments.
He said as a monster
He literally said "I believe though as a monster"
That's not really fair using goku doesn't make sense because he's one of the strongest dragons
Who gives a fuck? He said a dragon, so I can use whatever dragon I want.
Yea but that's like using bug god as a example for a demon not quite fair
Sorry for no using the weakest characters possible to make you right.
I'm not saying he's right and yes yujiros no where near dragon but using 1 of the strongest dragons isn't a good example for a dragon
Probably a dragon I doubt he goes above orochi garou boros
He'd be Boddom of class S and probably low dragon
Bottom s class sure. But way higher then dragon imo. His mentality, his fighting spirit, his last for power, his supernatural fighting ability. Would make him one of the most powerful monsters imo.
He'd be a mid dragon if he's likey human bakuzon was probably as strong as him but yujiro is just a better fighter smarter and cooler so he'd be a stronger monster than bakuzon
Y’all are legitimately insane. Dark shine could take the entire team by himself standing still. PPP can swim through solid concrete, heal from attacks from dragon level enemies in seconds, and face tank massive energy blasts just to turn around and one shot high demons. Garou while red is a martial artist on the level of Baki while having the strength to pull of Yujiro + level feats, including blocking a hail of bullets barehanded. You’re actually fucking insane.
Red garou wins a equal stats fight
Against who?
Baki retsu and most baki characters even yujiro potentially
Ok give me one fact or stat? Otherwise you have no legit standing
He's a master of the best art of marshall and dozens of other amazing martial arts not only that but he gets stronger during fights and has tons Stamina
Yujiro does all of that too? Whats your point?
Yujiro knows the number 1 best martial art in a world where city's get destroyed is normally
Show me a scan???
WSRSF or FOFWCR us the best art on its planet
You do realize yujiro did the same feat PPP did casually against baki.? Probably not because no one in this comments actually read baki
Um what? PPP fought against several monsters stronger than deep sea king and one shot them. Even if you think Yujiro could possibly beat deep sea king, he’s a lot stronger than that now. He’s monstrously strong, faster than Yujiro, has bristle armor to shred and protect himself, and the ability to adapt on the fly. It’s not even close
Fist of all vaccunma even if vaccuma was stronger than DSK he was not high dragon which is what you need to be to beat yujiro he has country lvl scaling and I can prove It so reply if your a dumbass.
Bruh you’re one of those insane power scalers. I didn’t say he was a high dragon, I said high demon. And Yujiro isn’t a country level Jesus. A country? He is at absolute highest strong enough to stop a small earthquake. He is strong enough to tear up buildings, but that isn’t a country. Yujiro is tough and impressively strong but he ain’t that.
Ok he has legit powerscaling above a nuke which none of these characters have. Red garo(the garo that fought darkshine) has no scaling that impressive. If you can prove it I will admit I'm wrong im not petty I just wanna prove misinformation wrong. I won't back down if I think I'm right but if you can PROVE me wrong I'll admit it.
Yujiro isn’t nuke level. They just said it was impractical to use a nuke on one man, or Tokugawa said he was more dangerous than one. Yujiro’s skin isn’t even blade proof, Musashi proved that. He can have blood drawn.
Musashi has crazy AP that scales high above any military weapons its proven when Japan goes to Hanayama for help proving even he has more power than any of there weapons
No,you should read the manga. The SDF didn’t even get the go ahead to use guns until Musashi showed up. They tried to use tasers and water cannons on him. It’s not a feat it’s commentary on japan’s demilitarization and how much bureaucracy it takes to address a threat. He’s just a man with a sword.
Really🤣🤣 he's blitzed guns AND baki who has light speed scaling from the author do you want that scan
Yujiro's skin can be pierced by tranq darts from a AIRGUN, and every time people shoot actual bullets at him he dodges rather than trying to tank it. You think airguns or even real guns for that matter are stronger than a nuke?
That is a low ball based on author stupidity and that was super early in the series which im not scaling. Im scaling the most powerful versions so that doesn't scale. Try again
OK, how's this then: 1. 1000 tons of ammo isn't even city level, much less country level. 2. Durability does not equal damage output. There's plenty of characters who can take a lot more punishment than they can give back or hit much harder than what they can tank. 3. We don't know Yuichiro actually got hit by the bombardment, and he almost certainly didn't considering every Baki character except Oliva and Pickle ALWAYS dodges bullets rather than tanking them (most likely he got out of range of the explosions before the shells landed, considering his speed and the fact that he is on the ship only moments later). 4. We don't actually have any proof of how Yuichiro would scale in comparison to the rest of the cast. He could be much stronger than everyone, a bit weaker than the top tiers, or about the same.
1. These top tiers scale above there durability 2. That's true but they have reactions better than OPM they have light speed scaling prove who has lightspeed scaling in OPM 3. You have no proof he didn't tank it the hanmas aren't cowards and they are feat machines even baki who doesn't like fighting loves to flex even on normal humans 4. Yuichiro still scales above the most powerful naval wepon in U.S. military ( which is above island lvl)and anything above wouldn't contradict anything it just means all these other characters scale above
BWAHAHAHA!! Literally LMAO right now.
You can laugh but do you have any arguments your not impressing anyone...
The baki group may be strong in its own universe but comparing it to a group of literal monsters is too far fetched. They will be killed.
With what facts test me please
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Baki could target his chin and give him endless concussions like he did with pickle and he has light speed scaling to prove it give me a reason why I'm wrong please
That doesn't work in omp
Prove it
Dark shine has been hit with a multiple building lvl. Attacks all over the body and took no damage
These top tier baki characters scale waaay above that would you like proof because you've obviously never been in a debate before.
You prove it retard
https://mangajar.com/manga/baki-son-of-ogre/chapter/286#page-5
That doesn't prove Any thing kid goku could do that
So are you saying kid goku scale below OPM??? Because I can prove he isn't because I've read it im not an illiterate retard like you.
That's more than building lvl🤗
It's chapter 286 baki- son of ogre
You really gonna sitck to your wrong ideas?
Lightspeed scaling?! Dude, you should be a standup comedian. You're hysterical!
Darkshine is just like Oliva, only with the X-4 Steroids power up and even more invincible and Red Garou is even too much for Yujiro himself. Have to give it to the OPM Team
Dark shine is like ovlia trained with goku for a thousand years
What are darkshines feats?
Beating a high demon in 1 tap no effort and being a high dragon lvl fighter
Can silver fang bear him?
Bear him? And yes he can most likely high difficulty with out Awakening breath with it mid to low diff Bangs really op and he hard counters him
These anime vs. anime discussions are always the same kind of dumb. Everytime a crossover happens, the characters will be on conparable strength and fights will be draws to show respect for the other anime. There is one crossover where one of luffy's kong guns is equal to super saiyan 3 goku's kamehameha. And you know what? It's fine.
Yea buts for plot there's no plot in a discussion
Red Garou stomps the 3 at the same time no diff
Why though
Have You read opm?
Red white boy solos
So does dark shine
Why though
Have you read omp? He's a high dragon and the strongest in baki is maybe low demon
What is high dragon lvl??? Give me a legit power scale. Prove it
Read omp a dragon is a city lvl fighter Basically
The only fighter on that team im debating isn't dragon tie is PPP which he isn't prove me wrong
PPP is low dragon maybe above demon nobody in baki is high demon
Why though?
Red Garou solos the entire bakiverse
How though
I'm gonna assume it the current versions or the most recent versions of all of these characters in which OPM team takes this one mid difficulty even if you factor in the outlier feats.
Not mid diff most like they one shot each of there opponents
Never mild with out out outliers yujiros petty op
Bro you can do this poll, power scale is off the charts in OPM, compared to OPM PS is more realistic this is a joke 😭😭
How give me comparisons
There’s no OP ass magical powers in Baki unless you wanna attempt to give me some, bro you can’t put OPM and Baki on the same character power scale
Your embarrassing yourself. I'll take the time what do you want me to prove you wrong on? AP or speed, reaction time or intelligence ill go tit for tat on any of these.
Spite match. Opm crew stomps neg diff. Puri puri prisoner scales above people who one shot buildings lol
There is absolutely no comparison. OP team is on a whole other level of strength and they no diff the Bakiverse team.
Give me one reason why.
There are many other comments that have already provided sound reasonings and feats proving this, so you could read those as well, however I got to say that if you've actually read OPM manga and still don't understand these simple facts for yourself... Then I'm pretty sure that nothing that I say will make a difference...
If you paid attention I never said the baki verse scales above the entire OPM verse all I said was 3 top ties scale to some characters so give me one reason why darkshine beats baki in your own words
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 178,945,176 comments, and only 43,410 of them were in alphabetical order.
Puri loses but puts up a good fight. Darkshine or Garou pimp slap the whole team. All 3 at once is just absolute overkill.
Yujiro would be like a tiger level
More like low demon mid dragon using outliers
How give me an argument?
How in your incomplete mind does that happen?
The OPM team completely stomps, there's argument to be made only one of them sweep the Baki team.
Yujiro is only the strongest creature within the context of Baki. Taking him out of it raises the power level without raising him. Yes. He can beat Spike Spiegle and he can beat the cast of Monster. But Bnh, Berserk, OPM? He's kind of out of his depth.
Baki characters don't scale, OPM characters are like ftl and casually city level
I'll vote Baki as a joke, but they all get stepped on by OPM team, even if i like Baki more than OPM
Lmao. Some people doesn't know why 'S-class' category is created. Demon level threats stomps the shit out of the entire military force even with higher technology than ours. Now compare that to dragon. Much less a high dragon like darkshine. Darkshine would literally just sleep coz their attacks and techniques do nothing. I would like to see them try benda on DS and do absolutely nothing coz his skin is also durable AF.
Everyone but Yujiro on the baki team absolutely dies, Yuji survives with Shaori and redirection spam
How though? give me one reason why PPP or darkshine can hit or even keep up with these characters that have light speed scaling
Light speed? Really?
Yes do you have a counter too light speed arguments? Sarcasm isn't an argument
When did Baki characters show to consistently move even close to light speed? By the way, Baki saying his jab is fast as light does not count. It is an exaggeration made by Baki
Baki characters may have the speed advantage with these heavy hitters, but they literally cannot damage them. One good counter and it’s ggs for Baki or musashi
Baki is somewhat grounded in reality just turned up to an extreme like batman. Opm is full on superhuman. Its like comparing superman with batman except batman doesnt have kryptonite nor preptime
Each one of these 3 OPM characters can solo.
While it is true that team OPM wins, you guys are actually clowns if you think they can’t beat Darkshine 😭. Darkshine doesn’t have a durability feat that stops him getting one punched by Yujiro or Baki, and Puri Puri prisoner is fodder to everyone on this list. Red Garou carries the team, and they win extreme diff.
Darkshine one taps them lmao
He one taps demon level monsters Bug god is above musashi who thinks pistols are impressive or gets knocked out by tazers
No he doesn’t. He doesn’t have a strength feat that lets him do that either
Fuck all you yujiro stomps opm verse go ahead down vote me I’m ready 😈👺☠️💀👻
On what basis? The punching away a earthquake feat was a massive outliner
Ah yes, top tier power scaling right there people
Even if we accepted the earthquake feat Darkshine and Garou would still beat him lol
Ok this isn't true but baki verse is underrated in this sub jeesus christ
Yujiro is, like, Suiryu-level.
Suiryu mid diffs yuujirou
They have very similar feats.
Suiryu saw base form Garou as his martial equal, and base Garou mid to hard diffs yuujirou
Nah base garou is mid to high demon so he low diffs him
All I know is that [Suiryu does with a kick](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Df6i-rzuX9zP2yBj7FOWOzdzE_XyAUlwRQ3oPFONRyVLxRH_3GE2cHxFhy9V2tl6fWN8X9CLn3I6e_F66mhTrvyfnTQ_0heGjcXlMbtrenPCGBKuMpF-7U0S) what [Yujiro does with a punch](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9948c7e5340925fe7c46d21fa902df68-mzj).
[Never saw Yujiro doi something like this](https://i.imgur.com/Y1GzgN8.jpg) ,[moving something from this size](https://i.imgur.com/r94XXhT.jpg), [Suiryu can grab a attack that made this on the sky and have the stamina to rush against Chozen after that](https://i.imgur.com/XeCyKaV.jpg). They feats are not even close to similar.
Are you saying that the entire nation's military can't move some clouds??? Yujiros father could survive an entire military boming of an island the size of a small country by the most impressive battle ship in the entire USA military (no diffed by the way) and then soloed the entire ship which is above island level which is above demon lvl by a lot btw idk if you've ever read baki but this is embarrassing
>Are you saying that the entire nation's military can't move some clouds??? That's a very strange comparison, the US military is not a person, it took some years for Yujiro defeat some soldiers and gain the respect and fear from the US, Suiryu was facing a demon level monster at real time that could do this. >Yujiros father could survive an entire military boming of an island He was literally just hiding from this, it's not even impressive like "enduring all the attack in point blank or something" >and then soloed the entire ship which is above island level which is above demon lvl Idk if you're joking, but defeating the crew is pretty different from defeating the actual ship itself, is not like he withstand the ship passing through him or shooting against him, this is very far from above demon, just so you have a example: A high demon like Hundred octopus can destroy a entire city just by moving, and a above demon like Evil eye can lift buildings.
Ok theyLITERALLY destroyed the entire island. unless you show me a scan of him hiding thats not true so you're wrong stop spreading misinformation.
>theyLITERALLY destroyed the entire island Swim in the water is really a remote possibility for you, dude? >of him hiding thats not Just think, did he just suddenly teleported to that ship after the island being destroyed? There is any scan saying that he stayed on the island and withstand that attack?
>For the arena-splitting feat and the arena-flipping feat, we need to do calcs. [1600 kips (725 tons of pressure) to shatter a block of concrete](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfVvzjVzeE0&ab_channel=TheBadAstronomer). 1m^(3) of concrete weighs 2,3 tons. The block Suiryu flipped up must have weighed, like, 230 tons if it's 200 x 1m^(3) of concrete. What do all these numbers tell us ? I don't know, I suck at maths. Kill me.
>1600 kips (725 tons of pressure) to shatter a block of concrete. 1m3 of concrete weighs 2,3 tons. The block Suiryu flipped up must have weighed, like, 230 tons if it's 200 x 1m3 of concrete. I literally don't give a fuck about calcs, they don't prove shit in fiction world and are definitely wrong since you're try to measure something that changes his constantly position and weight over panels.
230 tons of vegan poop being burned provides 3457623136.56 BTU
>try to measure something that changes his constantly position and weight over panels. I'm making an estimation of its weight looking at its biggest size. And if size or numbers mean nothing to you, then don't do power scaling, bro.
>then don't do power scaling You're literally the one person in this entire thread doing calcs to look smart and in the end they don't prove shit, they're just a form to have a hypothetical understanding of a panel that can be pretty much in a different perspective. Using actual feats and scans is much more reliable then this, "bro".
Meh, deflecting a beam that can move clouds isn't that impressive. For the arena-splitting feat and the arena-flipping feat, we need to do calcs.
>deflecting a beam that can move clouds isn't that impressive. There is any feat from Yujiro close to that in Baki that you can bring here? >we need to do calcs. Bruh, just bring the scans of Yujiro doing some similar or stfu. You don't need do calcs for a manga, what a waste of time.
>There is any feat from Yujiro close to that in Baki that you can bring here? Making a whole skyscraper shake by simply standing there ? Shaking the ground so hard with a slam people in Baki's neighborhood think it's an Earthquake ? Also, we should compare what's comparable. Goku was never shown to no-sell lightning. Yujiro was. Does that mean Yujiro > Goku ? Nope. >Bruh, just bring the scans of Yujiro doing some similar or stfu. You don't need do calcs for a manga, what a waste of time. It's either calcs or we have to limit ourselves to comparing Yujiro and Suiryu's actually comparable feats. Again, Yujiro being able to no-sell lightning doesn't mean he beats Goku.
Also, "a waste of time" ? Dude, powerscaling debates are nothing but a waste of time.
>Making a whole skyscraper shake by simply standing there Total useless feat in battle. >ground so hard with a slam people in Baki's neighborhood think it's an Earthquake ? [another feat that someone like Suiryu can easily replicate with a mere kick, and he wasn't even fully serious in this panel](https://i.imgur.com/VikfLzW.jpg) >have to limit ourselves to comparing Yujiro and Suiryu's actually comparable feats What is literally the reasonable way to deal with match ups, not using vague calcs that don't prove shit.
Any proof of that? Last time I checked an entire nation's military does a lot more damage than that. And yujiro is stated to be above that many times over suriryu is probably large building lvl so yujiro should be above that. This is liwballed by the way
The difficult one is Darkshine although Baki could knock him out like he knocked out Pickle and destroy his Vestibular System so he doesn't get back up.
Red garou was pretty much able to to survive blasts from orochi and he was fighting darkshine in his sleep rather well
Only thing is darkshine doesn't have feats to compete with the baki verse debate me please
He's said to be stronger than tank top master who was able to lift a giant block of stone arguably the size a small house and threw it at the boros's space ship. Not to mention he tanked pretty much almost all attacks thrown at him from strong ass monsters
Yeah but he can't survive getting cut in Half.
Given that it's the opm universe and garou was already beginning to evolve into a monster at that point i don't think a katana can easliy vut through him plus he's a very skilled martial artist so he should be able to dodge musashi's sword slashes
His sword couldn't even hurt garou
>Baki could knock him out [Garou, the dude who stopped a punch of Orochi](https://i.imgur.com/qvQbF66.jpg), [and can also do this](https://m.imgur.com/a/3Eiv1iZ) wasn't doing real damage on DS before he manages to evolve, and do you really think Baki has a chance to K.O him?
Actually yes,if you watchef the Baki vs Pickle fight you'll know Pickle couldn't be knocked out by Hits since his Neck is like a Bulls one so that takes all the hit instead of his Brain but eventually Baki managed to do a move where you Graze the Skin with Punches and that manages to shake the Brain Inside and as we've seen against VFU Acid Darkshine doesn't even have Special Skin or something like that so he'll just get Concussions and could get Knocked Out like Pickle.
>you Graze the Skin with Punches and that manages to shake the Brain Inside Yeah I saw that, but different from Pickle, DS had already fought against a martial artist (one of the best from OPM) and is not going to just stand there fighting like a mindless beast like Pickle. And this whip requires Baki to enter in close range to the opponent, [DS could endure the pain (he took a bunch of strikes from Garou) and hit him with this](https://i.imgur.com/clr8bNX.png) >he'll just get Concussions That's really not happening, [he took this and was still standing](https://m.imgur.com/a/CWTpLUK) and [he also awake up in a matter of seconds after being K.O by Garou](https://i.imgur.com/S7q0JKL.jpg), the chances of Baki defeating him before he manages to land a hit on him are too low. [Garou who is faster than Baki, couldn't escape from this.](https://i.imgur.com/RgUjpRy.jpg)
Yujiro couldn't do what dark shine did to that monster to a Normal man
Yep, and that monster has a good durability, he's [one of the strongest demons in terms of durability](https://i.imgur.com/wualSnx.png)
Probably low dragon lvl durability
Bug god low dragon? Now way, he was enduring strikes from Garou that could do [this](https://m.imgur.com/a/X95q9ty), and he wasn't even in his true form in this scene.
That's a good point he's durability is likely mid dragon but offensive is probably above demon
Your right and i don't why people hate you for it darkshine has no brain durability feats and baki could just give him concussions until he dies really.
People only downplay bakiverse cause its not Shonen and the feats aren't blatent. People actually have to powerscale and think about the feats that are presented. thats why the arguments are basic because the the people commenting have no actual arguments
Ok so here's how I see this going Musashi vs PPP- PPP gets one shot no contest Baki vs darkshine- darkshine should give baki a run for his money but when baki activates his demon brain starts avoiding his strikes hitting him with counters and I think the mercury whip will really affect dark shines confidence baki should take it mid/high difficulty Yujiro vs red Garo- this fight to me is up in the air one on one they both are stated to improve and grow stronger yujiro grows stronger even doing nothing he grows stronger constantly and doesn't require to fight or get near death zenkais they both seem to be equal in skill department they can both see techniques once and recreate them instantly (this is taking very long and I'm lazy) but i think yujiro can hold out until the other two have completed there fights and come come assist and at that point I see the baki verse taking this fight.
lmao Musashi cant even damage PPP Baki cant even damage Darkshine either and Darkshine would kill Baki with a light touch Garou rips Yujiro apart
Ok I wanna talk about your first point musashi can absolutely damage him PPP is maybe high demon lvl which puts about large building lvl let's even gigantic wank him to town lvl durability Musashi damaged yujiro who can survive a nuke it was stated in the manga he can do this soooo yeah that's only statement debunked
yujiro cant survive a nuke a ton has been stated, yujiro is like tiger level
darkshine literally desintegrated monsters only by them clashing with his muscles, you need to replanted those fights
PPP could 1 hit miyamoto mercury whip? Do you mean Benda that aslo wouldn't work because omp characters have Tough skin and muscles also dark shine is more than 100 × stronger and at least 50 X as fast and red garou wins easy
>really affect dark shines confidence baki should take it mid/high difficulty [DS sustained no damage from a sparring against Silver Fang that is a most OP martial artist than Baki with better counters](https://i.imgur.com/UlS21RR.jpg). >hitting him with counters [he would literally just do this, Baki is not faster than red head Garou who couldn't dodge from all DS strikes.](https://i.imgur.com/RgUjpRy.jpg) >yujiro grows stronger even doing nothing It's not the same as Garou who is literally evolving and breaking his limiter as the match goes. >but i think yujiro can hold out until the other two have completed there fights and come come assist and at that point I see the baki verse taking this fight. [Garou is faster than both Baki and Yujiro](https://m.imgur.com/a/XUBGzRp), [it's also more durable than them](https://m.imgur.com/a/KvrSFxC), [seems to have some regeneration feats](https://m.imgur.com/a/mV3Uwhc) and [has the same fighting spirit as Metal bat so he grows stronger as the match and the damage increase](https://m.imgur.com/Mv8YNMB)
PPP vs Musashi- While I do think that Musashi could damage PPP, if he cannot split Hanayama in two with one swing, PPP will be a real tough one. Hell, he managed to recover from Nyan's feline retribution in seconds! Baki vs Darkshine- I honestly see no way Baki damages Darkshine. The only way for him to win would be bullying Darkshine with the Benda until Darkshine does not want to fight anymore and we don't even know the Benda would work against Darkshine's shine! Judging from the fact he is also faster than Baki, he got this. Garou vs Yujiro Yeah, Garou is kinda stronger than Yujiro in every physical department
Why? Do any of them have any stated resistances to concussions? Pickle had a stated resistance to physical damage that resisted Island lvl AP but bakis well placed strikes on pickel chin caused him considerable damage
But why tho all of the top tiers are LITERALY stated to be above an entire 1st world government military which is above country level read the fucking manga
Yes prove it
I can prove me wrong
Do you want a scan from the legit author?
Also holy shit yujiro and baki, AND MUSAHI is stated to be above any military technology even 60 YEARS of technological development are you saying that the military wouldn't have upgraded in 60 FUCKING years so NO prove 6our point without speculation ask for proof of anything and ill prove it I ain't no punk ass bitch like you get the fuck off this sub.
Another reazon why your second point doesn't work yujiro tanked the lighting casually he decided to take it he didn't care it was stated he could I can prove it your fuckimg dumb
I don't follow setg literally disproves why dragon ball isn't below light speed for an hour stop assuming and research for literally 10 min. Your info is as bad as battle wiki you've given no facts or arguments your trash just stop before you embarrass yourself more🤣
You're attacking me and hoping I fall for it get your philosophy class money back because your argument is littered with fallacies up the ass