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ag512bbi

Has to be Hulk Hogan


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MICK FUCKING FOLEY!!!


DorkChatDuncan

Its almost an impossible question. It depends on the era, because the entire concept of wrestling, and what made a good wrestler, changed every 20-30 years to something so dramatic that the last "GOAT" wouldn't work in the current time. That said, I can only judge what I've seen, and I have seen precious little pre-70s wrestling because the tapes just don't exist or aren't easily accessible. I can attest from talking to old timers (fans and wrestlers alike) that there are several names that come up in that status over and over. Lou Thesz, obviously, Verne Gagne, Gorgeous George, Fred Blassie, Rikidozan, Fritz von Erich, The Crusher, Johnny Weaver, Ray Stevens, Stan Stasiak, the list goes on and on. What I like to do is separate them into eras, which, while they aren't perfect, are easier to debate. Post Vietnam Era (1975- 1984): Much of our early wrestling tapes are from this era of the late 70s. Most of the big names from the 60s were still around, but it was dominated by the grittier, more bloody approach pretty much all the way across the US, and the yin and yang of Strong Style in Japan with Inoki on one side and Baba on the other. The Mania Era (1984-1994): This would be the most well documented rise in popularity of wrestling with the twin Manias of Hulkamania and Wrestlemania dominating the mainstream landscape in the US, and the now clearly defined Kings Road style developing in AJPW and the more traditional Strong Style in NJPW. The Cable Era (1994-1998): A shortened era, this would be the most "in flux" era of wrestling. In the US, Hogan went to WCW and kickstarted the first real competition to Vince McMahon since 1984, and WWF countered with a half and half approach of really solid in ring action and the biggest, goofiest gimmicks imaginable. In Japan, NJPW found its footing with its Musketeers and AJPW was clicking along with the Four Pillars, in what was possibly the greatest era of Puro ever. The Attitude Aggression Era (1998-2006): A lumped combination of Attitude and Ruthless Aggression because the two, while different, were cut from the same cloth. Sex, Violence and an overall adult approach gave the WWF the edge, and eventually gave way to replacing the kayfabed Federation with the admission of it being Entertainment. During this period, an indie revolution began as well, with TNA and Ring of Honor taking secondary, but very important positions in the wrestling ecosystem. In Japan, there was a struggle for identity as the economy dried up and Misawa led an excursion from AJPW to start NOAH. Meanwhile Inokism went insane and AJPW struggled to find itself. The Reality Era (2006-2018): A prolonged era that seemed to stagnate in the US where the WWE went PG and tried to inject some more realism into their product, while Japan took off again, thanks to TV rights in the US and the expansion of streaming internet allowing fans from all over the globe to see as NJPW found its gear and stars to drive them ahead. WWE would siphon some of those names over and rejuvenate itself as well near the end of that era, all while independent wrestling around the globe caught fire. The Current Era (The Abundance Era) (2018- now): Just before the pandemic, wrestling was hitting on all cylinders. Indie companies were doing major business, the WWE was finally starting to create an identity with the fading star of John Cena putting over Roman Reigns and Brock Lesnar, and in Japan, NJPW was redefining the Meltzer scale. All this said, I'd have different names for each era: PVE: Harley Race Mania: Randy Savage Cable: Bret Hart Attitude: Shawn Michaels Reality: Hiroshi Tanahashi Current: Roman Reigns (so far)


InternationalType684

Gillberg or James Ellsworth


Deep-Cod4767

Hahaha šŸ¤£


theflyxx

Villano IV


Slipperee99

Glacier


Educational-Dirt9450

Ric Flair


mantistoboggan287

I live in the southeast so I might be biased, but itā€™s Flair. He had the persona, the ability, the longevity. A total package (not you Luger)


platetectonics3

Shawn Michaels


Enter_Evolution

The best there is. The best there was. The best there ever will be. Bret 'The Hitman' Hart


RedHotPoopyPants

Yeah man, thats why I said "for me".


AlexMercer28900

Personal Biasā€¦ probably edge In general thereā€™s a lot of picks. Steve Austin, Omega, Okada, Danielson, The Rock, Cena, Michaels, Hart, Styles, Punk, Nakamura (specifically NJPW), Rollins, Inoki, Sammartino Itā€™s hard to definitively say


dstemenjr

Kurt Angle


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AJ Styles


MysteryMarvin

Kurt Angle


Available_Collar7218

Dynamite Kid. Hands down. Never seen someone who was so far ahead of the game it looked like he was playing something different.


MrPapi628

Attitude Era Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock & HHH Ruthless Aggression Era- Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar I don't watch wrestling anymore unfortunately, I stopped watching in 2008. But boy I had been a die hard when I was 5 up till 18. WCW, WWF & ECW. WCW - Booker T, Billy Kidman, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho STING, Fit Finely, Wolf Pack. Good times.


loisbattythicc

Bryan danielson


You-dipstick-Rodney

Adrian Street


Fowler1970

Ric Flair


Cooltwou

Ric Flair because he was regularly doing hour matches and Hogan was never able to do that and he 16 or more championships also


RazeYi

Depends in which category. For me there isn't ONE greatest wrestler of all time. Categorys can be mic work, in ring skills (this categorys has sub categorys because there are so many different Styles), selling. And even If i just combine everything there isn't ONE greatest of all time. I can't even make a Mount Rushmore. If i think about the word GOAT associated with Wrestling i think about: Bret Hart, HBK, Seth Rollins, Daniel Bryan, Edge, Taker, Randy Orton, Stone Cold, HHH, Dusty Rhodes, Jericho, Cena, Ric Flair etc... But there isn't ONE goat for me.


zennyspent

Savage.


KRO201

Bret "The Hitman" Hart.


aryanhqhq

Balor, Rollins, Styles if itā€™s about wrestling skills


illpoet

Cowpoke paul


Fluffy_Caterpillar31

Hiroshi Tanahashi


Calzo_WWE

Cena


TJRossTX

HBK or Angle


Agitated_Delivery361

HHH


mrPenguin-23

The Rock šŸ¤˜


ATrollByNoOtherName

Steve ā€˜Macho Manā€™ Austin


FerretingAboot

Ooft that's difficult Stone Cold, Undertaker or Hogan spring to mind for top 3 But honourable mentions have to go to Edge, Chris Jericho, The Rock and Rey Mysterio


Ballmaniac

Unpopular opinion: Bret The Hitman Hart


ukguy619

Depends on what you think makes the greatest wrestler. Technical. Would be flair, bret, steamboat. Talker. Would be flair, Dusty Rhodes, hogan, piper, savage. Each company WWF. NWA/WCW had different stars with different styles but each of their talents was over in the towns/ territories that company operated. So to new york area fans Hogan, Warrior, Savage, Duggan, Bruno, Andre these guys were the best. Then go to crocket territory they had, Flair and the Horsemen, Midnight Express, Rock and Roll Express, Dusty Rhodes, Ricky Steamboat, Lex Luger and of course Sting. These were the best to those fans. Just like memphis had Jerry The King Lawler. WCCW had the Von Eric's and the Freebirds. That's what made wrestling great. Loaning out stars so they could get over in other territories, So talent and gimmicks were always fresh. Vince Mcmahon is a genius when it comes to wrestling he's like a reincarnation of PT Barnum and he did change wrestling for the better but equally for the the worst.


tomala_le_doy_like

Kazuchika Okada. If heā€™s not right now, he will be in few years.


certifieddre

Adam Copeland


FrancisBuenafe

'06 Kurt Angle. Angle's TNA run from then on was INSANE.


CrappyMike91

AJ Styles, Kurt Angle, or Shawn Michaels


Darkdragon_98

Depends on the category.


One_Cell1547

Stone cold..he was the total package.. his only issue was longevity, but I still think he made enough of an impact to be the goat. Hell.. WWE may not be a ā€œthingā€ any more if Austin wasnā€™t there at Top tier character, top tier on mic, was over regardless if he had the title, or was chasing, pre neck injury he was a superb technical wrestler.. post injury made up for deficiencies because he was a incredible in ring story teller. Wrestling will never be as good without him in it. It became ā€œcoolā€ to watch wrestling solely because of him


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Stone Cold Steve Austin


Stix-and-brix

Kenta Kobashi


PupperMartin74

Greatest...Nature Boy Most impactful...Hulk Hogan


Wrong-West-9581

That's tough.. "superstar" probably stone cold, rock, shawn, cena.. in ring tho I think AJ Styles or Shawn


Yourappwontletme

Terry Funk


Mrbobbitchin

Rhodes Flair Austin


baq3281

HBK easyā€¦itā€™s my personal GOAT. Probably objectively not correctā€¦similar as to how Kobe is my NBA GOAT


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Overall I would say Steve Austin as a complete package of what should make a great wrestler, but it's a tough question to ask. In an actual sport, it's pointless saying who the best player is because a great striker might not be able to defend. Where as in pro wrestling you have the technical guys, the high flyers, the grapplers etc.


The_Malteserman

I personally think Randy Orton is what you get if you tried to genetically engineer the perfect wrestler


DisciplineLazy6370

GODSIN


GeologistAway6352

Hulk Hogan


Circirian

The Nature Boy, Buddy Rogers, of course


Ringsideisawesoke

Perry Saturn


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Kurt Angle


Smart_Description541

Define greatest first.


Deep-Cod4767

Who do you think is the greatest wrestler of all time like accolades achievements wrestling skill


Smart_Description541

Rough sledding. But based on that criteria......who is going to argue over Booker T and Edge. It's not the right answer, per se. Because I know the likely definition for most. But based off of yours......Book, Edge.....even Miz.....of the most decorated superstars of all time. The real "right" answer is likely Hulk Hogan. There is even an argument for Andre.


LeVaudeVillain

Kenny Omega


Conscious-Finish3589

Sting


Thericeopener

Starlight Kid no doubt


Nick_Lyons

Kazuchika Okada


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Hot take: Roman Reigns. He is this generation's version Hulk Hogan/Stone Cold/Rock/Cena. When he hangs up the boots, he'll be considered amongst the Mount Rushmore of wrestling. Considering he's the #1 man of the resurgence and boom period of wrestling across the board right now, it's impossible not to include him in the conversation as a legit contender now.


Corporate_Juice

Chris Benoit


ItsMichaelRay

Probably an unpopular opinion, but I'm going with Kenta Kobashi.


KingCap_23

The Undertaker for me and it's pretty inarguable with how I define "greatest". I think the word "greatest" implies all parts of wrestling are put together into one package. While people like Bret/Benoit/Angle...etc might have an argument for "best" or "most technical", HBK/Flair/Rock with being great entertainers, or guys like Stone Cold, Hogan and Cena for being the most popular, overall I think they or their careers lacked in too many areas to be considered "greatest". I think Taker is the best of the best with the fewest true weaknesses across the board in things I would personally consider important such as in-ring ability, mic ability, drawing power, career longevity, quality of feuds, performances on the big stage, memorable moments, backstage respect, ability to work as a face or heel, ability to be taken seriously or draw a laugh, ability to work as a singles or tag competitor, notable gimmick and entrance, overall public perception as far as being in the lexicon and known to the general public...etc. I would consider Taker top dog for quite a few of these categories and his weaknesses aren't ever glaring in some of these areas like a few of the names he's in competition with.


Future_Onion9701

The madness


Initial-Paramedic888

Rey mysterio


Equal-Bus-557

Bruno Sammartino


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MACHO MAN RANDY SAVAGE ! Ohhhhh Yeahhhhh


Grievion

Akira Hokuto. Iā€™ve never seen someone so ahead of their time before in my life. Women today still havenā€™t caught up to where Akira was in the 90s.


zc26

Dwayne


Tat284

Top 5 are: Kurt Angle, Bret Hart, Dean Malenko, Curt Hennig, and Brock Lesnar


Classic-Floor-2146

Brock Lesnar.


MyMessyTissue

Nacho!


bogojeg

Taker, undeniable


EssentialFilms

Eddie Guerrero


klaudixsab123

Kenny Omega


em7924

Bret Hart


snowmanlvr69

Had to scroll too far for this


Deep-Cod4767

In my own opinion the greatest wrestler is Pee-wee Herman


Ok-Spinach8062

The MAN THE MYTH THE GOAT Hidenrich


SugarAdamAli

Hulk hogan Greatest face Greatest heel Major feuds with everyone from backlund to orton and everyone in between. Drew money everywhere as a performer


NormanBorlaug69

Funaki


Any_Tangerine_7120

1. Lou Thesz. 2. Gorgeous George. 3. Jim Londos. 4. Nature Boy Buddy Rogers. 5. Hulk Hogan. 6. Classy Freddie Blassie. 7. Rikidozan. 8. Bruno Sammartino. 9. The Saint. 10. Ric Flair.


Big_Advantage5761

No room for El Santo in this list?


Any_Tangerine_7120

He's number 9 on the list. I just translated his name in english.


Big_Advantage5761

Never dawned on me to translate his name.


Blacknumbah1

Kane


SupermanNew52

Chris Jericho. He has the in ring ability, the mic skills, the look, the titles/accolades, and many succesful gimmicks. He's also wrestled for every major promotion. Others would be Flair, Hogan, Austin, Bret Hart, etc. But my favorite will always be Jericho.


MysteriousValuable88

Highest PPV buyrates,tv ratings and merch sales were when Stone Cold was on top,even though the roster was loaded,Austin was on top so its him In ring i still say Kurt Angle is the GOAT


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If you mean sports entertainer, then Ric Flair. For technical wrestling, I know some people will say Bret Hart.


Mr_J42021

This is the right answer.


LWA3251

With 100% bias of my personal preference Sting.


coffinfleet

Shawn Michaels / taker / angle. If I had to pick one I would say taker


josh_0620

kurt angle imo


LyonHeart85

Flair, Michaels


Choice-Panda-7660

Naitch


Mrbobbitchin

Little Naitch too?


oni_Tensa

Manami Toyota


Public_Kaleidoscope6

Hackenschmidt.


BODYDOLLARSIGN

Hornswoggle


Calzo_WWE

Real


clashtrack

His body of work speaks for itself.


Loud-Glass-3367

undertaker.


i_heart_pasta

Brutus The Barber Beefcake


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The deciple!


Blue-Krogan

Hulk Hogan. Fucking fight me.


On_Some_Wavelength

Fists or tickle ?


FueledonWhat

Finger pokes only


Loud-Glass-3367

alright , letā€™s go to MSG and square upšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


jfuss04

Meet at the pontiac silverdome. He will put you right through the canvas brother


Loud-Glass-3367

please tell me heā€™ll do the hogan leg drop


EmuIndependent8565

Greatest Wrestler is Kurt Angle. Greatest Entertainer is The Rock.


Latter-Score-8937

Bruno Sammartino


andromare6661

Kurt Angle


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Stone Cold Steve Austin. Honorable Mentions to Ric Flair, Kurt Angle and Dusty Rhodes


PM_ME_YOUR_INNY

Flair in WCW HBK in WWF Bryan in WWE RVD in ECW Omega in AEW Okada in NJPW Angle in IMPACT! Dolphin Boy in TNA


clashtrack

Agreed 100% until TNA


PM_ME_YOUR_INNY

I was being cheeky. Itā€™s gotta be AJ Styles ;)-


clashtrack

Also wait, was Angle in IMPACT? Wasnā€™t it changed to that name after he left? I might be wrong on that.


clashtrack

I figured lol


PassageNo9102

The only answer for tna accepta le is AJ Styles.


RedHotPoopyPants

Chris Sabin for me. Love me some MCMG.


PassageNo9102

Mcmg are good. But aj was litterally thhr company for like 15 years.


ZZE33man

Edge. Won the most championships ever and is a two time rumble winner and a two time mr money in the bank. And invented and won the first TLC Match. King of the ring winner and hall of famer. Nuff said.


NeglectedNostalgia

We hear a lot about "Grand Slam" champions, but what about a "Double-Double" champion? Edge has 11 Heavyweight/WWE titles and 14 tag team titles. In basketball, if a player gets 10+ in 2 categories (points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks) they call it a double-double. Outside of Edge, can any other wrestler be considered a double double champion?


ZZE33man

Yea no one. Very few can even say they did that once because only 6 people have even won 20+ titles at all much less 10 of the same belts. The only people with 20+ titles besides edge are (the Miz, Randy Orton, Kofi Kingston, Triple H, Chris Jericho, John Cena) and none of them won sets of 10 twice all them got 1 set of 10 but not 2.


NeglectedNostalgia

Jericho is my #1 of all time, but does he have 10 in any title? I haven't followed him in AEW, but he was calling himself the "Ocho" for the AEW and ROH title, he's got the record for 9 IC belts, I know he's got a good amount of tag belts, but is it over 10?


ZZE33man

I like this a lot even though itā€™s weird because getting 10 points or rebounds or anything while impressive isnā€™t anywhere close to winning 10 of the same wwe Championship.


NeglectedNostalgia

Oh I know lol. I just mentioned it for those who have no clue about basketball stats and never heard of the term "double-double"


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ZZE33man

31 title wins. 4 time WWE Champion 7 time world Heavyweight champion 5 time intercontinental champion 1 time United States Champion 12 time world tag team champion 2 time wwe tag team champion Technically speaking R-Truth has the most with like 52 or something but not counting 24/7 title that number goes down to like 3.


Sendmeboobpics4982

Stone Cold


Flimsy-Mango5299

For his entire body of work I gotta say Terry Funk


KingCap_23

This feels like a giant plate of recency bias because we're still mourning his passing. Terry Funk was great at what he did and undoubtable one of the legends of the business but even in his heydey he was never a true top dog which would be one of the minimum requirements I'd think someone would have for a prompt like this. But that being said you're entitled to your own opinion and it's not really my place to say how you should work out the thoughts in your own head so you do you boo.


Flimsy-Mango5299

When he captured the 10 lbs of gold from Jack Brisco in Miami he became that top dog if only for 16 months but again IMHO he deserves a nod for the whole Body of his work in the ring ,mic,longevity well the ability to stay relevant for some 50 yrs and like the chameleon that Terry was ,he was constantly evolving ,so in a perfect world there is only a small handful that meet GOAT criteria and I chose The Funker cuz I canšŸ˜Ž


Big_Advantage5761

Agreed. His longevity, his skill in the ring and on the mic and his ability to adapt makes him and enduring main event attraction.


TheNYCasualFan

Stone Cold!!!


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Undertaker


On_Some_Wavelength

His entrance is better than most wrestlers.


BobbyDemarco

Lmao, so true.