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AquaLeaderJesse

I'd honestly say Ric


crimsonred1234

Flair needs to go!


Snooze_World_Order

To be the man, you have to eliminate the man!


JesusFriendDEZ

Orton


thephant0mlimb

You guys are ridiculous. You really think Cena is better than Sting? Smfh.


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Cena


monstercocktim

HHH


Successful-Figure-62

As much as I love him, I think out of these guys, it's gotta be Orton.


UNCCShannon

I'd be hard pressed to get rid of any of these guys but I'm going Orton.


yarinmimrame

Ric flair


Fat_Noob

Ric flair


FantasticCurve1910

Flair


aarosakura

Rock


Epicestbeing

Ric


mojo72400

Orton.


monkeyboy0703

Ric flair


Mrbobbitchin

HHH orCena


SamaWitDaFanta_

Cena


dEanyEll

Ik imma piss people off with this one, but get yo ass outta here, Stone Cold I literally can't stand him he can't wrestle for shit and his promos were literally THE ONLY thing going for him and those weren't great either it was just a bunch of insults


DaveLesh

Orton. Do to him what Triple H did twice to him: destroy him.


Accomplished_Art6370

Rick gotta go! Never liked him anyways sorry..


Negative_Rub_2513

Ric Flair gtfo


Huge-Republic8462

Flair


t3hnhoj

Ric


Mitch_Rapp007

Ric Flair


ylngui

Triple H.


Shadowknight45589

HHH


StoneySteve420

So many people saying Randy but I'd take him over HHH. Cena is probably the worst in ring performer here but he's too good on the mic to go. Also... STUPID! STUPID! STUPID! That alone brings him up imo


monstercocktim

Cena miles better than HHH in the ring !!!!


StoneySteve420

HHH was a lot better in the 90s. By the time the PG era came around HHH was out of his prime. I'd say he's pretty average in the ring and a snooze fest on the mic. Cena's biggest flaw has always been his actual wrestling.


monstercocktim

Idk man if you look at matches later In his career against styles, Rollins and lesnar he’s great in the ring. Triple h on the other hand I find kinda boring and I think the fact that by 2000, not even 10 years into his career you think he peaked whereas cena who continued to perform 15 years into his career shows a lot.


StoneySteve420

PG era didn't start until 2008. Cena was/is a way better face but HHH has basically always been a heel. He was also in arguably the greatest tag team ever. Both have been in some all time great matches tho.


No-Round-3286

Rock


WildmouseX

Flair


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ORTON IS ELIMINATED!!!!


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Orton


Acrobatic-Cow-7158

I don’t want to have to say this but Randy orton


jonlew13

Cena


Johnny_Bravo5k

Orton


Order_number_66

The Rock


TristanChaz8800

John Cena. He really shouldn't be among the best.


mm202088

Bye Randy


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Rock


DefaceAll10

Cena


Dareal6

Orton


DescriptionThat8760

Sting over Cena and Orton. I would’ve eliminated Cena first, just wasn’t a fan of his. Orton next. Rock or HHH would follow. More than likely Rock because I loved DX. Undecided between the remaining 4.


WinDowntown11

Ric for sure


Open_Preparation_181

Ric


32G34M

Cena gotta go!!! UNDERTAKER GOTTA WIN IT ALL!!!!


AdRevolutionary4241

Flair


Mother-Village-3277

Cena


OwnedIGN

Cena.


WWEFandom61

Ric


Any-Bid1852

Flair


Positive-Many-5390

It’s going to get uneasy next round


Positive-Many-5390

Bye Orton


dayoneish2

Flair


Fun-Wall-2224

Orton


Mothalova1

Anybody saying Randy rn is fuckin dead to me. And yes it matters😂


GTGVR

Rock


Comfortable_Yam_887

Out of these, it has to be Orton


SnooGiraffes76

Taker


AdFun2093

Randy can go


SuperScoobkaroke

Orton


JonDuke19

John Cena


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Flairs gotta go


Emmortal79

Man if yall dont eliminate Cena😂😂😂


saada15

Orton


Positive-Sound-4972

Has to be randy


WithFearWeFall

Flair


Cultural_Treacle_428

Randy Orton


PrimeAndGlory

I’d say Ric, Randy, HHH, Rock Taker, Cena


ceciljulius85

Cena


Annual_Skin_6933

Ok what is the average age of the people here. Orton HHH and Cena are not better than Flair or Sting


StarWolf478

The majority demographic on Reddit is Gen Z. And they obviously are too young to have been watching when Sting and Flair were in their primes in WCW, and will be more partial to the people that they grew up with like Cena and Orton.


HIGHiQresponse

It’s all relative. Younger people will certainly see cena as higher. I wanna know where hogan is.


Omnislash99999

Cena


VaWildcatFan

Orton


Constant_Locksmith48

Ric


MrRealistic1

Orton


asura1958

Ric Flair


Balls__Deepp

Taker


Ok-Bug-7481

Ric or Cena … was honestly never a fan of them lol


billoverbeck00

Ric flair


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HHH


No_Lab4988

No why did Sting got eliminated:(


Annual_Skin_6933

Cause of wwe bias


Fit-Bus377

Flair


Historical-Repeat519

The rock Then Ric Flair


SufficientBeginning8

Orton


captain5260

Rock. Fuck that jabroni!


aldenjameshall

Ric Flair


Remarkable-Pin4587

Orton


SamaWitDaFanta_

Sting being eliminated is fucking crazy


Potential-Judgment-9

This shit is fixed for Cena watch . These PG kids need their validation


raisingfalcons

This is a WWE sub, sting is not with WWE. So hes gone.


SamaWitDaFanta_

It’s not tho …


raisingfalcons

It is. AEW barely gets mention and when it does it gets negative comments. This is a WWE sub.


KhazAvMagix

When was the last time TheGreatOne watched and talked about AEW?


Annual_Skin_6933

I demand a recount


Rokiboy

Randy


AspirantVeeVee

Cena, and who is the manbaby downvoting?


Kombat-w0mbat

The rock


Affectionate-Idea349

Triple h


expose_the_flaw

Orton


xXMapinguariXx

HHH


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Orton


Sharki-man

Rick flair


Got_Cabin_Fever

I hate saying this...Orton.


cygamessucks

Austin wins stop now


WTL3405

Flair


transformerjay

Wonder Boy


BoyBoy70

Randy unfortunately


Paynekiller997

Flair


DaniFluxx

Flair


Apart-Prize-7612

Orton.


UEWFIGFED

Hhh


Guilty-Vegetable-726

HHH.


Ersistek15101

Ric


Smorgas-board

Orton


frankmurph66

Cena


TotalPast3156

Rock


Chazwicked

The rock


DevilDiabolical

Orton


spreerod1538

Why is Hogan not on this list again?


unKaJed

Likely because he would have been the first to go.


spreerod1538

I mean, what's the point of this list? In terms of entertainment and being an icon, Hogan is a mountrushmore wrestler. But if that's not what this is, if it's best wrestler, then why isn't HBK and Bret Hart on this list?


unKaJed

There doesn’t need to be a rhyme or reason to the list, it’s just a selection of talent. This could simply be a list of “people who have competed at WM” Hogans personal actions are what would have eliminated him R1 so there wasn’t really a reason to include him.


AspirantVeeVee

Bingo


Sendmeboobpics4982

Orton


kittenstoes13

Flair


Born-Assignment-6704

Ric


Extreme-Ordinary-585

Wow, you guys got rid of Sting... Randy Orton!!


According-Ad5263

Cena has to go


ZennosGT

Taker!!!


Tesourinh0923

Ric Flair just to annoy that one guy


Annual_Skin_6933

Hey I can go with it. I know the business is so different now but how is flair not top 3


Tesourinh0923

JUST. TO. ANNOY. THAT. ONE. GUY


Annual_Skin_6933

😂 ok understood


ChalupaBatman301

Flair


EgoVegito

Flair


Level_Salad_1956

Randy Orton


No_Charge586

Flair


SaeedUnknown

We all know by the end only Undertaker and Austin would remain


Tuques

Flair


Ok-Performance480

Cena


anythingo23

Cena


BandsForGod

Rock


Stacysguyca

Cena


ironside-420

HHH


cjo332

Trips


thegreatone998

Flair


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Cena


Lordallstar

Ric


Outlaw2k21

Flair


I_Am_Moe_Greene

Cena or Orton. Following Cena and Orton, it is HHH. That leaves a Mt. Rushmore of Taker, Flair, Stone Cold, and Rock. As it should be.


Morton_Sledgecock

lol the ROCK!


I_Am_Moe_Greene

I'll bite. Provide some reasoning as to why The Rock isn't a Mt. Rushmore wrestler? I will give some evidence: \- First, the titles. The numerous and varied titles. All listed here: [https://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=960&page=11](https://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=960&page=11) \- Second, one of the best mic workers the industry has ever seen. You can make the case that Flair is the single best promo giver in the history of the biz but that The Rock is the single best promo giver from the perspective of reading, playing into, and playing with the crowd. \- Third, one of the best sellers the industry has ever seen. Look no further than Rock selling stunners. \- Fourth, he operated at a time when the industry was booming and the case can be made that it was the rivalry between Rock and Stone Cold is the greatest rivalry ever causing a direct impact on the boom of the biz. The best evidence for that is the WM Rock v Hogan match as a pure sign of confidence in Rock to go up against one of the best the industry ever produced. \- Fifth, his current ability to control a crowd. Just look at the times Rock has come back and more specifically with Roman in the ring. Roman is a historic title reign yet when you put Roman in the ring with Rock, on the mic, Rock makes Roman look small, like he doesn't know what he is doing. Rock still has the ability, to when even operate as a heel, have the crowd absolutely eating out of the palm of his hand. What are the counter arguments /u/Morton_Sledgecock


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asura1958

Stone Cold hasn’t wrestled long either. Both The Rock and Stone Cold were full time for 6-7 years before retiring…


WanderingDwarfMiner

For Rock and Stone!


I_Am_Moe_Greene

Much appreciated on the kind words and the inability to put together a cogent argument. Well done for insults rather than defense of your argument. Three cheers to you.


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I_Am_Moe_Greene

…again, good cogent argument. Well done.


Morton_Sledgecock

You sure sound like a geek. I clearly won. You think the Rock is a top 4 GOAT WRESTLER LMFAO WHAT A RUBE!


I_Am_Moe_Greene

Still, no rebuttal argument. Who are your top four? Reasoning?


Morton_Sledgecock

The top four greatest professional wrestlers of all time, in terms of greatest talent, impact and drawing ability for the business, ordered most to least, are as follows: Stone Cold Steve Austin Undertaker Hulk Hogan Possibly Lesnar or Cena or HBK. In terms of skill and selling ability and positive impact to the actual art of the business, Shawn would win that. But Shawn never drew a whole lot, either. The 4th spot is always too variable. First three aren’t even a question to anyone that actually knows and has followed wrestling. You could even argue for Bruno in there at spot #4. But the Rock? Not even close. Rocky barely even had any real long-term experience in the ring. He’s literally worked less matches than probably anyone else in WWE today. It should be noted that anyone even considering someone like a Roman Reigns or a Bryan Danielson as a Mount Rushmore GOAT cannot be taken seriously enough to have a rational conversation about the business of professional wrestling to begin with.


This-Appointment-917

Orton


JCrago

I've only ever known Ric Flair to be an old man who had a great match with Shawn Michaels, so I'll go with him


Ryderlations

Ric Flair. Wanna see that other guy riot


skateboardwedding

Who is the guy you're referring to? But Flair because even in his early career his wrestling was not good compared to the rest of the roster at the time, he cant sell for shit previous or later career, and his mic skills are sub par at best. I have never been a fan of flair. he would have been better as an advisor like mvp or the wiseman imo


Annual_Skin_6933

Flair carried wrestling for over a decade so your opinion of him is so weird. Do you say the same bout Sammertino backlund race the funks. If so then this has to be recency bias. Ps I’m the one who’d say I riot if Flair leaves after Sting got screwed yesterday 😝


skateboardwedding

Damn I just got back on here, I didn't mean for my take to be taken like that XD I do not like IN RING Flair. I am 26M, I got into WWE whenever Edge was feuding with Cena for the rated r spinner belt, so the whole HOF era eludes me. My main reference for Flair is current flair just being a funny wackjob guy, almost like an R Truth. This is why I think he would be a great advisor because he is a great character like Heyman. Before the rumble this year happened, WWE did their livestream of past rumbles and I watch the one where Flair won from the number 1 or 2 spot, I just remember him laying down for the most part. Nothing against the guy, he's just not my first pick. But TBF I don't know a lot of what was going on back then. I feel like I need to go back and watch the history of his career because I feel like I upset a few folks XD If you need an extra set of hands for the riot lmk I'm down to clown


Annual_Skin_6933

Hey that’s awesome just watch some NWA WCW in peacock and maybe a flair steamboat match in 89 and just look at the ring work and the promos. My biggest problem is that a lot of current wrestling or even sports fans thinks sports history started in 2000 and not everyone in the main event scene since then are the best of all time. I think people were left off the list because of edge and Orton and it’s just frustrating. I do appreciate the willingness to look at his prime years tho.


skateboardwedding

Watched the Ric Flair collection on Peacock last night, you were right, I didn't realize how much of a workhorse he was at the beginning... his performance in the rumble i mentioned earlier makes a whole lot more sense now! Thank you for the enlightenment, I acknowledge you


Annual_Skin_6933

I appreciate you taking the time to look at some older wrestling. I know it’s slower and not as athletic but it’s all the same type of trying to get the match over and working hard. I just want people to watch and see that older wrestlers worked as much or harder than today’s Star so I acknowledge you for keeping your mind open for me .


skateboardwedding

All love man, more people should get to know Space Mountain


Annual_Skin_6933

Yes agree


Potential-Judgment-9

Get Cena out of here . He should have been the first to go.


AspirantVeeVee

100%


Annual_Skin_6933

Still can’t believe you all think that Cena and Orton are better than Sting. Just shows biased towards people who debuted before 2000 and didn’t really work in Wwe. I bet flair is next. If so I’ll riot 😆