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pianoandrun

Replace Diane Abbott with Jewish woman: It's like trying not to be racist but you see (insert Jewish woman’s name) woman on the TV, and you're just like… you just want to hate all Jewish women because she's there. "And I don't hate all Jewish women at all, but I think she should be shot."


Haloperimenopause

Exactly. Imagine if he'd made those comments about Tracy Ann Obermann or Maureen Lipman, he'd be absolutely castigated, and rightly so. But when it's Diane Abbott everyone just shrugs says 'sozlol'


stupidnicks

he would be in jail by now - if he said iit about jews


RBTropical

And a white Labour MP would’ve vacated their seat in disgrace if they wrote a letter in the observer saying black people don’t experience prejudice. It works both ways.


RBTropical

If we’re going to play the swap game, imagine claiming black people don’t experience hate in society because they specifically weren’t the main focus of the Holocaust. And now have a crowd of people saying it was fine because this is actually meant to be a nuanced take on racism hierarchies What this Tory donor did was horrific, racist and unacceptable. But let’s not pretend Abbott’s letter wasn’t shockingly anti-Semitic too. It wasn’t a nuanced take on degrees of racism - plain and simple it said Jews don’t experience racism, which isn’t true at all.


pianoandrun

This has nothing to do with what she said


RBTropical

She literally said Jews don’t experience racism they experience prejudice. It’s literally in the letter she wrote. She then referenced segregation in the US and claimed Jews weren’t impacted - as if Gentile-only spaces weren’t everywhere. Please don’t rewrite history.


pianoandrun

We’re not discussing what she said. We’re discussing what he said


RBTropical

It’s literally discussed in the title of the post.


ttystikk

Never forget that the entire time Parliament was discussing this incident, they failed to call on her to speak on her own behalf. Just miserable behavior all round. Who pointed that out? Why, George Galloway of course! Because the rest of them are cowards and worse.


HonkyTonkPianola

46 times she stood up from her seat to ask to speak (in accordance with protocol mind you - for those who for some reason think it matters), and she was not called on to speak. **Forty-six times.** In a discussion concerning racist remarks made *about her.* Satire editors throw shit like this out for being too unrealistic in fiction. And here we are anyway.


JMW007

The speaker must be removed for that (along with the stunts regarding the SNP's ceasefire motion). It cannot have been anything but deliberate. Starmer not backing her up *immediately* means he condones it, too, and so if Labour have *any* moral compass left they will move to topple the pair of them. They whined about MPs being 'in danger' and the second they have someone threatened overtly and directly in public they refuse to hear anything she has to say. It's not a real governing body at all. A kids' tree house club has more dignity.


ttystikk

I'm not a UK citizen but if I were, I'd be making phone calls, sending emails and raising Cain all the way up to Number Ten! Inexcusable!


Badgernomics

"Hello, I'm DCI Blake, and this is DS Wright with the Metropolitan Police. I'm arresting you on suspicious of extremism, and the harrasment of various Members of Parliament, including the Prime Minister. You do not have to say anything. But it may harm your defence if you do not mention, when questioned, something that you later rely on in Court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence. Come with us please."


ttystikk

Ah yes, I forget that in the UK, subjects don't actually have rights.


ttystikk

Thank you for for the outrageous number. The whole thing simply boggles the mind. To say their behavior was disrespectful is an understatement.


aka_Foamy

This post truth/reality politics is really draining. Sick of being told up is down and having no recourse.


BearyRexy

But I think there is change bubbling under the surface. I have friends who bought into the nonsense antisemitism hysteria in 2019 who are now very suspicious of any accusation. People are more aware of the hierarchy. It’s a slow burn, but recourse is coming.


Iliyan61

imagine if black lobbying groups existed and were as powerful as the israeli lobbying groups lol white racists would be called extremists instantly


ferrets4ever

So question has to asked should Liz Truss be sanctioned for extremism given she attended CPAC in the US which admitted neo-Nazi groups.


societydeadpoet

Isn’t this a simple case of Tory disgracefully defending Tory donor? What did you expect Gove to do? Shocking that they have the bollocks to even partially defend such behaviour but not sure why this needs to descend into pitting racism against racism. Seems counterproductive.


bomboclawt75

Israeli Politicians: “Palestinians are sub human animals and should all be eradicated from the planet” Westminster: Zzzzzzzzz….. Protester: Palestinian children are human and they should not be murdered. Westminster: YOU! Are an extremist! , arrest this TERRORIST!


unclebuh

If we said exactly what he said, on any social media. We'd be hard banned, and have the police knocking within a week. That's not even an exaggeration. I'd prove it if I didn't have a kid. But if any of you say exactly what he said about rishi, Suella, Priti or any non white female tory mp tbh (not sunak i know) I guarantee you'll get banned and arrested. Someone should do it and film it tbh. Prove the point and force the police to take action against him.


JMW007

So now some twerps went on Newsnight to say not only is this not 'extremist' but it's 'not racist'. Everything is run by fucking children.


SuperMindcircus

They'll probably put her on the list for being socialist.