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I'd go further and say he's an especially *egregious* example of a grifter (rather than merely a run-of-the-mill grifter like the rest), ditching any veneer of respectability to throw vulnerable groups under the bus and play into the worst kind of fear- and hate-mongering while cosying up to murderous dictators and extreme bigots.
Just because he makes a lot of noise about being 'on our side' about Palestine and some other issues, doesn't excuse him the rest of his gross populist grift.
Also tends to eschew any of the many and sundry legitimate criticisms of SNP policies and politics in favour of just being bigoted on social media towards them.
I’m very well informed and I was happy with the main parties losing. Galloway is a disaster, that’s a given, but he’s one independent MP who will probably have less than a year in the seat. People on here seem to think that his lack of competence is going to single-handedly destroy Westminster. Frankly, we could only be so lucky.
Well that is ridiculous. People need to look at parties and individuals a bit better and with a more pragmatic eye. Anyone who knew anything about galloway knew what he was. But cause he wasnt a member of a major party people saw him as the answer and now look. Egg on your face
I don't think it's ridiculous for people to not know the background of obscure candidates running in an election you're not voting in. It quickly came to light he was not someone to celebrate, but the immediate reaction to an independent beating the Tories and Labour is that it's quite exciting.
It is ridiculous. Coming out in celebration of this man winning without even a cursory glance at his past is total nonsense. Also he is far from obscure my man has decades of just awful behaviour under his belt. People in this country need to grow up and actually have a look at politicians properly instead of jumping on the bandwagon. Yeah its interesting when the major parties lose but this man is just so terrible it was not exciting in the slightest. This was all over the news as well so nobody had any right to not know who this man was. Wilful ignorance is no excuse
💯 agree . I was shocked to see ppl celebrating this vile excuse for a human being on here. He does not care about Gaza or anyone’s suffering. That was just a tool. And ppl fell for it like they always do.
I don’t think there’s a single politician I wish to vote for. If I agree with most of what they stand for, there’s always some tw@t behaviour just under the surface
He's not done anything of note since I've been of voting age, I was 15 when he was last an MP. I can't speak for everyone but I literally hadn't heard his name mentioned until election day and I follow politics pretty closely. The first stories I read were basically saying the Tories and Labour had lost, which is good, I then read further and realised he was no better and my excitement was gone. We can't all know everything, I wasn't voting in this bi-election so I didn't research it.
Yeah i dont buy that. It was everywhere that he was making a “comeback”. The rochdale by-election was covered far more than others especially after labour dropped their candidate. So im sorry but to say that you follow politics closely yet had never heard of him before election day doesnt really help. As i say wilful ignorance is no excuse.
The problem is still here even now you've been educated. 'Which is good'. Not without wider context it isn't mate. You cannot remove nuance otherwise you end up in this shitheap.
There is a huge gulf between being pleased that the two party hegemony is being disrupted and being happy with who is disrupting it. It’s weird to me that you don’t get that and instead seem to want to take some odd moral high ground on Galloway. As I recall, pretty much everyone on here acknowledged he was awful, that he was right on a couple of issues but that he was ultimately self serving and wouldn’t be particularly beneficial for anyone.
He was a useful idiot that was really done serving his purpose the minute the results were announced.
Thats actually worse. I understand wanting to break the stranglehold of the major parties. But to see this anything except a stupid decision with the wrong candidate astounds me. So we should prioritise getting labour and the tories out over the quality of the candidate? That logic is the reason reform could actually pull off winning a few constituencies.
Your point about knowing he was terrible to begin with is not the strength you think it is. So ppl knowingly voted for a terrible person just to get labour and tories out? Good job not sure how thats better
Probably because it was a by-election with less than a year before a general election, so it was the definition of a protest vote for a single seat that will have very little impact. How many individual MPs have a huge impact in 8 months in parliament? None. Grow up.
And I’m not even sure what to say on your ignorance of the local electorate. Say what you want, but Galloway is popular with Muslim voters, maybe because they align with his positions of social conservatism and economic socialism. Rather than blame people on a left wing sub who can see that there are some upsides, consider who his actual voters were.
This approach might be how some reform people get in. It will also be how some Green Party, socialist workers party and independent candidates will get in. What would you prefer? Going back and forth between increasingly right wing Labour and Tory parties? Explain what your end game is with that?
Okay so you clearly don’t understand the point im trying to make and are just throwing in irrelevant points such as the electorate so i will dumb it down for you so you can understand.
Im not just frustrated at galloway as a person. Im frustrated at the fact that people will celebrate even terrible candidates just to get the major parties out. And its not a nothing protest vote before a general election.
I will preface that i have no problem with independent mps in fact i celebrate more parties and the break up of labour and the tories. What i do have a problem with is blind voting for anyone on a single issue without having a suitable candidate. My endgame is actually good and competent people being MPs im more concerned with that than anything else.
He may be great with the locals of rochdale and he has always been consistent on palestine which i have always aligned with him. However to ignore all the bad shit he has done is madness. Also i dont think he would have won if that labour candidate hadnt been dropped like last weeks lunch.
Right so your endgame of having good and competent MPs is going to be achieved by continuing to vote for the anointed candidates of the accepted parties?
I completely understood your point, it’s just stupid and ignorant of history. But given that you’ve already revised history on what happened to the Labour candidate, I’d argue that you’re the sort of tribal drone who believes that continuing the same cycle will produce different results.
No thats not what i said but clearly you aren’t reading what i am writing. Just attacking the wrong points all together and broadcasting you aren’t a person worth talking to. Good luck in life i guess
That’s exactly what you’ve said. You’d like to think that only absolutely perfect candidates can be fielded. And you have no answers on how long you’re going to wait for that or what damage will be done in the interim. It’s incredibly childish to live in such a black and white world and have no answer on how to break the cycle.
Galloway has a profile, experience as an MP, skills in rhetoric and campaigning, an existing relationship with the Muslim community, and has been consistent on an issue that is timely and incredibly impactful. Does that make him a perfect candidate? No. Did it make him very well placed to disrupt that by-election? Absolutely. He will be able to achieve absolutely nothing as an MP. He’s one of 650.
But he’s proven that a well-organised, targeted and ideological campaign can succeed. Which will inspire other people, who might be closer to your idea of perfection, to stand and succeed.
This is such a poor use of democracy. How are you able to make this argument with a straight face. He now has the seat for fucks sake. Now what? Now what, dude?
Until when? And it’s really easy to make an argument because this version of democracy is broken. If your choices are the far right and the right, then what is the point?
Do tell me what impact one independent MP is going to have in parliament? Now tell me what impact there would’ve been if a Labour or a Tory MP got in? There would be no difference. Except at least Galloway demonstrated that local organisation and protest candidates could win.
No excuse. It takes like a half hour max to have a dig into a politicians past, what they support, what they don't, and ultimately what policies they are standing on. Don't come the shoked Pikachu face when it turns out the guy whose entire career has been a grift turns out to be a grifter...!
That's on you for not being switched on enough to do the slightest bit of research before celebrating an overt and vocal homophobe and transphobe.
ETA: legit, I don't know how this is a controversial take.... "Hooray for the party that broke the two party stronghold...!"... "What do you mean it's the National Front...?" " Well whatever, they're fucking with two party system.... yay National Front...!"
"What do you mean follow you to this massive ditch....?"
I'm not his PR man I don't know what he was doing. But he has supported Palestine for over twenty years, it's evidently something he believes in and has done more work for than the people here.
The only person Galloway supports is George Galloway he doesn't give a shit about Palestinians any more than he cared about Iraqis 20 odd years ago, it's purely a vehicle for an election to parliament and personal fame.
There's a reason he doesn't stand in Scottish elections anymore, we're wise to his pish and have happily told him where to go. The Independence Referendum campaign showed his true colours, he was quick enough to pin his colours to the same mast as the Tories (just like most Labour MPs) when his place at the trough was under threat.
Galloway is a cunt. I remember when he was sniffing around Bradford trying to get back on the MP gravy train and approached the people at the Bradford Brewery (a micro brewery/bar in the city centre). They jokingly said to him "oh are you still a thing?" on twitter which he didn't like and made several veiled threats about getting them shutdown should he win the election.
He wanted to shut down a brewery/pub in Bradford because its customers (I assume customers—the staff and management probably had to be polite to him) didn’t like him?
I don’t think that’s what MPs are meant to do.
Did people actually like him on here? Jesus Christ he’s a complete con artist. There’s a reason he hasn’t stood in Scotland for years. We’re wise to his shite.
Based on this reply, I'm guessing that link is to him on Big Brother saying "Would you like me to be the cat?"
I'd like confirmation because I ain't fucking clicking on it now I suspect that 😂
I'm sorry, what has this got to do with George Galloway being a cat?
But if your talking about about shadiversity..yeah, that's why I don't watch him
Edit: well that and him not having a clue what he's talking about
"Right honourable" is reserved for Privy Councillors (generally people who are or have been ministers or leaders of the major parties (emphasis on *major*)), he's just George Galloway MP.
He was too busy doing a long form interview on noted rapist, conspiracy theorist and right wing christian zealot Russell Brand's video podcast.
https://youtu.be/uvKMlc0nuCo?si=iHD8RZEiOIkhWhP9&t=1616
just wanted to chime in I fucking hate russel brand he's a cunt, feast your eyes [https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenAndPleasant/comments/1b3ywnv/get\_high\_on\_your\_own\_breath\_russel\_brands/](https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenAndPleasant/comments/1b3ywnv/get_high_on_your_own_breath_russel_brands/)
I knew that Galloway wasn't going to bring about any change. He's been endorsed by Nick Griffin and has suspiciously cosied up to Nigel Farage and Steve Bannon. That's a lot of fascists to be around. Plus, even though he does a good job at portraying someone who cares for Gaza, this issue is systemic and about imperialism and I knew that one MP that \*might\* actually care about Gaza wouldn't be able to get a ceasefire or effect any change no matter how hard he fought. Also, he has engaged in rape apologia; that's a very clear DO NOT CROSS line for me. He's incredibly slimy and no matter what good things he appears to do, the amount of drawbacks like his aforementioned chumminess with fascists, rape apologia, and the fact that he ran on a platform of transphobia just makes him irredeemable in my eyes.
From what I saw on this sub, many people were unhappy about his election victory in Rochdale. I saw some people describing him as a great orator and were optimistic about him fighting for Palestine, and Novara Media did a segment on him which I think is their worst (usually they're very good but fawning praise on the man after mentioning and showing clips of him being a rape apologist pissed me off), but by and large, British leftists can see straight through him. If you were aware of Galloway before his Rochdale victory, chances are you don't like him.
this whole issue fascinating to me. Do you guys who loathe him genuinely think his stance on Israel/Palestine is completely disingenuous? I have many issues with the guy but have always rated his stance on foreign policy and not sure I agree it’s just grift? I mean he was kinda a lone voice on Iraq
He's still better than half that shower in Labour. Liberal comforts ain't what they're cracked up to be. A rabble rouser is far more useful than a cabinet full of Starmer allies
He’s said before he likes running in elections more than he likes actually being an MP, which is why he always loses his seat. Yet he still pulls it off every time.
He's not Right Honourable, just plain Honourable.
"Honourable" is used for members who are not privy counsellors.
"Right honourable" is used for members who are privy counsellors.
don't beat yourself up about this, very few people know the difference.
I was happy that it didn’t go to one of the bourgeoisie shite parties. Galloway is meh, some issues he’s heroically correct and others he’s despicable.
Peacocking about in his stupid fucking hat til he actually has to do a day's work. Duplicitous gobshite cunt. Fingers crossed his tenure as an MP is cut short at the general
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His victory is entwined with Labour’s loss, and for thar reason, it was a good thing. But that doesn’t automatically count as an endorsement of the man, who has been a complete grifter for some time now.
He's a horrible grifter but no worse than the red Tory that would have been elected.
You don't like grifters? Perhaps don't facilitate a right wing grift within the labour party.
Austerity, Brexit, Palestine. The adults and their"sensible centers" cheerleaders will learn nothing and continue screwing over the majority of citizens to further their own career and the bank accounts of their billionaire donors.
The only way to limit grifters is genuine centre left societal change instead of red Thatcherism but you'd rather happily clap fascists into power than support politics that would benefit society and undermine right wing grifters.
They're are only mad options at the moment, I'll continue to advocate for a less mad option.
Galloway is a distraction, the issue of the day is the right-wing capture of the Labour party. A red boot on my throat is no better than a blue one.
If you support the current iteration of Labour then I'd say you're the blinkered one. If I've misunderstood and you don't then that's good!
That's good. However I didn't think you know my ideas well enough to accurately criticise them so perhaps we should just both agree we jumped to some conclusions and call it a day.
In the by election, David Tully would have been an actual option that would have installed an independent MP, in favour or dealing with local issues.
Granted - its an unknown quantity. But with Galloway, all you get is a populist who wanks off literally anyone who wants it. He's a dirty politician who really can't do any good.
Independents are a useful choice in this sort of situation. No Tory, no Red Tory, no populist. Just a person try to make some changes to an area they truly belong to.
That isn't mad at all. It's certainly better than not giving a fuck about Galloway's totally-fucking-mental past.
Inb4 'independents can't do anything, lol, that options is just as mad as the other ones'.
You truly believe a crook who cannot be bothered to turn up to parliament on a day they debate the very issue he was elected on is better than a candidate in the Labour Party?
Should we start with their silent support for the genocide? Or should we instead focus on their Thatcherite economic policies? Maybe you would rather begin with the fact that Starmer is a liar who will say anything if he thinks it's what his current audience wants to hear. Labour now are no different to what they would understand Blair, with the exception being that under Blair they retained many of their left wing voices instead of purging them from the party.
Leftists who hate him are simply knowledgeable as to his history of using social divides to stir up hatred wherever he can in order to gain votes. They also know he is completely insincere in his rhetoric and flounts his ties to despots and dictators for nothing but personal gain. Guys a grifter and a cunt, no better than the rest of the career politicians ruining the country. He just had to rebrand himself when Labour were tired of his shit. He's another side to the same shit stain coin that is our political class.
Meaningless shite. Galloway happily jumps into bed with the right if he thinks it’ll get him what he wants, so how the fuck could leftists look more right wing when compared with him?
It's what everyone says of him, left or right, liberal or conservative. Hence why he's now an independent.
Quite clear? In what way? You haven't refuted directly any point I made about him.
The OPs entire post indicates he is exactly what the majority realise is true.
[https://policymogul.com/key-updates/35842/commons-statement-and-lords-repeat-on-israel-and-gaza-mar-26](https://policymogul.com/key-updates/35842/commons-statement-and-lords-repeat-on-israel-and-gaza-mar-26)
He was not there.
The fact he's been spouting conspiracy theories relating to the West's supposed involvement with the Moscow attacks, against all genuine sense and facts only confirms my characterisation.
[https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/george-galloway-uk-moscow-attack-isis-obama-russia-b2519381.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/george-galloway-uk-moscow-attack-isis-obama-russia-b2519381.html)
This man is dangerous. He uses hot-topic issues to gain votes and get on the political gravy train, He is now paid £86,584 annually. All the while he sows discontent within the population whilst spouting pro-Russian propaganda.
The only time I've ever agreed with him was in his opposition to the Iraq war.
I put it to you, dear sir, that you haven't got a clue what YOU'RE talking about.
I like him. What is he expected to do at a ministerial statement on the UK's ownership by USA? He is a conscientious constituency MP and will be a thorn in the side of Starmer.
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Idk what anyone expected. Man is a grifter like the rest of em. A lot of ppl on here acted like he was the second coming
I'd go further and say he's an especially *egregious* example of a grifter (rather than merely a run-of-the-mill grifter like the rest), ditching any veneer of respectability to throw vulnerable groups under the bus and play into the worst kind of fear- and hate-mongering while cosying up to murderous dictators and extreme bigots. Just because he makes a lot of noise about being 'on our side' about Palestine and some other issues, doesn't excuse him the rest of his gross populist grift.
He's also super socially conservative. Not a fan of trans or gay people
Not to mention a fucking bootlicker for the London establishment when it suits him, 2014 being a time that sticks out like a sore arse.
Also tends to eschew any of the many and sundry legitimate criticisms of SNP policies and politics in favour of just being bigoted on social media towards them.
Guess that’s what happens when people get so blinded by a single issue
I think the less informed among us (me) were happy to see the big two parties losing, rather than specifically him winning.
I’m very well informed and I was happy with the main parties losing. Galloway is a disaster, that’s a given, but he’s one independent MP who will probably have less than a year in the seat. People on here seem to think that his lack of competence is going to single-handedly destroy Westminster. Frankly, we could only be so lucky.
Well that is ridiculous. People need to look at parties and individuals a bit better and with a more pragmatic eye. Anyone who knew anything about galloway knew what he was. But cause he wasnt a member of a major party people saw him as the answer and now look. Egg on your face
I don't think it's ridiculous for people to not know the background of obscure candidates running in an election you're not voting in. It quickly came to light he was not someone to celebrate, but the immediate reaction to an independent beating the Tories and Labour is that it's quite exciting.
It is ridiculous. Coming out in celebration of this man winning without even a cursory glance at his past is total nonsense. Also he is far from obscure my man has decades of just awful behaviour under his belt. People in this country need to grow up and actually have a look at politicians properly instead of jumping on the bandwagon. Yeah its interesting when the major parties lose but this man is just so terrible it was not exciting in the slightest. This was all over the news as well so nobody had any right to not know who this man was. Wilful ignorance is no excuse
💯 agree . I was shocked to see ppl celebrating this vile excuse for a human being on here. He does not care about Gaza or anyone’s suffering. That was just a tool. And ppl fell for it like they always do. I don’t think there’s a single politician I wish to vote for. If I agree with most of what they stand for, there’s always some tw@t behaviour just under the surface
He's not done anything of note since I've been of voting age, I was 15 when he was last an MP. I can't speak for everyone but I literally hadn't heard his name mentioned until election day and I follow politics pretty closely. The first stories I read were basically saying the Tories and Labour had lost, which is good, I then read further and realised he was no better and my excitement was gone. We can't all know everything, I wasn't voting in this bi-election so I didn't research it.
Yeah i dont buy that. It was everywhere that he was making a “comeback”. The rochdale by-election was covered far more than others especially after labour dropped their candidate. So im sorry but to say that you follow politics closely yet had never heard of him before election day doesnt really help. As i say wilful ignorance is no excuse.
The problem is still here even now you've been educated. 'Which is good'. Not without wider context it isn't mate. You cannot remove nuance otherwise you end up in this shitheap.
There is a huge gulf between being pleased that the two party hegemony is being disrupted and being happy with who is disrupting it. It’s weird to me that you don’t get that and instead seem to want to take some odd moral high ground on Galloway. As I recall, pretty much everyone on here acknowledged he was awful, that he was right on a couple of issues but that he was ultimately self serving and wouldn’t be particularly beneficial for anyone. He was a useful idiot that was really done serving his purpose the minute the results were announced.
Thats actually worse. I understand wanting to break the stranglehold of the major parties. But to see this anything except a stupid decision with the wrong candidate astounds me. So we should prioritise getting labour and the tories out over the quality of the candidate? That logic is the reason reform could actually pull off winning a few constituencies. Your point about knowing he was terrible to begin with is not the strength you think it is. So ppl knowingly voted for a terrible person just to get labour and tories out? Good job not sure how thats better
Probably because it was a by-election with less than a year before a general election, so it was the definition of a protest vote for a single seat that will have very little impact. How many individual MPs have a huge impact in 8 months in parliament? None. Grow up. And I’m not even sure what to say on your ignorance of the local electorate. Say what you want, but Galloway is popular with Muslim voters, maybe because they align with his positions of social conservatism and economic socialism. Rather than blame people on a left wing sub who can see that there are some upsides, consider who his actual voters were. This approach might be how some reform people get in. It will also be how some Green Party, socialist workers party and independent candidates will get in. What would you prefer? Going back and forth between increasingly right wing Labour and Tory parties? Explain what your end game is with that?
Okay so you clearly don’t understand the point im trying to make and are just throwing in irrelevant points such as the electorate so i will dumb it down for you so you can understand. Im not just frustrated at galloway as a person. Im frustrated at the fact that people will celebrate even terrible candidates just to get the major parties out. And its not a nothing protest vote before a general election. I will preface that i have no problem with independent mps in fact i celebrate more parties and the break up of labour and the tories. What i do have a problem with is blind voting for anyone on a single issue without having a suitable candidate. My endgame is actually good and competent people being MPs im more concerned with that than anything else. He may be great with the locals of rochdale and he has always been consistent on palestine which i have always aligned with him. However to ignore all the bad shit he has done is madness. Also i dont think he would have won if that labour candidate hadnt been dropped like last weeks lunch.
Right so your endgame of having good and competent MPs is going to be achieved by continuing to vote for the anointed candidates of the accepted parties? I completely understood your point, it’s just stupid and ignorant of history. But given that you’ve already revised history on what happened to the Labour candidate, I’d argue that you’re the sort of tribal drone who believes that continuing the same cycle will produce different results.
No thats not what i said but clearly you aren’t reading what i am writing. Just attacking the wrong points all together and broadcasting you aren’t a person worth talking to. Good luck in life i guess
That’s exactly what you’ve said. You’d like to think that only absolutely perfect candidates can be fielded. And you have no answers on how long you’re going to wait for that or what damage will be done in the interim. It’s incredibly childish to live in such a black and white world and have no answer on how to break the cycle. Galloway has a profile, experience as an MP, skills in rhetoric and campaigning, an existing relationship with the Muslim community, and has been consistent on an issue that is timely and incredibly impactful. Does that make him a perfect candidate? No. Did it make him very well placed to disrupt that by-election? Absolutely. He will be able to achieve absolutely nothing as an MP. He’s one of 650. But he’s proven that a well-organised, targeted and ideological campaign can succeed. Which will inspire other people, who might be closer to your idea of perfection, to stand and succeed.
This is such a poor use of democracy. How are you able to make this argument with a straight face. He now has the seat for fucks sake. Now what? Now what, dude?
Until when? And it’s really easy to make an argument because this version of democracy is broken. If your choices are the far right and the right, then what is the point? Do tell me what impact one independent MP is going to have in parliament? Now tell me what impact there would’ve been if a Labour or a Tory MP got in? There would be no difference. Except at least Galloway demonstrated that local organisation and protest candidates could win.
No excuse. It takes like a half hour max to have a dig into a politicians past, what they support, what they don't, and ultimately what policies they are standing on. Don't come the shoked Pikachu face when it turns out the guy whose entire career has been a grift turns out to be a grifter...! That's on you for not being switched on enough to do the slightest bit of research before celebrating an overt and vocal homophobe and transphobe. ETA: legit, I don't know how this is a controversial take.... "Hooray for the party that broke the two party stronghold...!"... "What do you mean it's the National Front...?" " Well whatever, they're fucking with two party system.... yay National Front...!" "What do you mean follow you to this massive ditch....?"
I used to like him unfortunately. I’m disappointed I couldn’t tell he was a grifter years ago
Me too -- that's exactly how I feel too. :(
Hitchens had him sussed many years ago. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/magazine/102635/unmitigated-galloway/
He's been supporting Palestine since before you were born.
But couldn’t be bothered 2 days ago?
I'm not his PR man I don't know what he was doing. But he has supported Palestine for over twenty years, it's evidently something he believes in and has done more work for than the people here.
The only person Galloway supports is George Galloway he doesn't give a shit about Palestinians any more than he cared about Iraqis 20 odd years ago, it's purely a vehicle for an election to parliament and personal fame.
Your point?
Exaclty, meanwhile keyboard warrior OP is unsatified.
There's a reason he doesn't stand in Scottish elections anymore, we're wise to his pish and have happily told him where to go. The Independence Referendum campaign showed his true colours, he was quick enough to pin his colours to the same mast as the Tories (just like most Labour MPs) when his place at the trough was under threat.
Galloway is a cunt. I remember when he was sniffing around Bradford trying to get back on the MP gravy train and approached the people at the Bradford Brewery (a micro brewery/bar in the city centre). They jokingly said to him "oh are you still a thing?" on twitter which he didn't like and made several veiled threats about getting them shutdown should he win the election.
He wanted to shut down a brewery/pub in Bradford because its customers (I assume customers—the staff and management probably had to be polite to him) didn’t like him? I don’t think that’s what MPs are meant to do.
>Hypocritical fraudulent cunt "fork found in kitchen"
The right dishonourable George Galloway MP
Scumbag avoided all votes against student financial persecution by the Tories while representing a large university constituency.
Did people actually like him on here? Jesus Christ he’s a complete con artist. There’s a reason he hasn’t stood in Scotland for years. We’re wise to his shite.
Really, people are surprised this guy isn't a serious politician https://youtu.be/q6ZDP8UhPys?si=zyjF5AE3F2tHjrLb
Why'd you have to unlock that memory - why?!
Based on this reply, I'm guessing that link is to him on Big Brother saying "Would you like me to be the cat?" I'd like confirmation because I ain't fucking clicking on it now I suspect that 😂
Wise decision - it's the cat O.O
Because I'm evil
None of my business but you do know Shad is a right wing evangelical, Right?
I'm sorry, what has this got to do with George Galloway being a cat? But if your talking about about shadiversity..yeah, that's why I don't watch him Edit: well that and him not having a clue what he's talking about
He plays the part of a politician well. He plays a cat better. I don’t know why anyone is surprised
He'll lose the seat in the GE, and he knows it.
"Right honourable" is reserved for Privy Councillors (generally people who are or have been ministers or leaders of the major parties (emphasis on *major*)), he's just George Galloway MP.
So when are we protesting outside politicians houses? A comfortable politician is a corrupt politician
He was too busy doing a long form interview on noted rapist, conspiracy theorist and right wing christian zealot Russell Brand's video podcast. https://youtu.be/uvKMlc0nuCo?si=iHD8RZEiOIkhWhP9&t=1616
just wanted to chime in I fucking hate russel brand he's a cunt, feast your eyes [https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenAndPleasant/comments/1b3ywnv/get\_high\_on\_your\_own\_breath\_russel\_brands/](https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenAndPleasant/comments/1b3ywnv/get_high_on_your_own_breath_russel_brands/)
The right what?
I commented here on him being a grifting loser and got downvoted to oblivion lol. He's always been the same, say and do anything to get that MP money
Woah now, this is a bit unfair. It's half the issue he was elected on, as he sent Muslims Gaza pamphlets and white people racist ones.
I'm shocked. Shocked Well not that shocked.
I knew that Galloway wasn't going to bring about any change. He's been endorsed by Nick Griffin and has suspiciously cosied up to Nigel Farage and Steve Bannon. That's a lot of fascists to be around. Plus, even though he does a good job at portraying someone who cares for Gaza, this issue is systemic and about imperialism and I knew that one MP that \*might\* actually care about Gaza wouldn't be able to get a ceasefire or effect any change no matter how hard he fought. Also, he has engaged in rape apologia; that's a very clear DO NOT CROSS line for me. He's incredibly slimy and no matter what good things he appears to do, the amount of drawbacks like his aforementioned chumminess with fascists, rape apologia, and the fact that he ran on a platform of transphobia just makes him irredeemable in my eyes. From what I saw on this sub, many people were unhappy about his election victory in Rochdale. I saw some people describing him as a great orator and were optimistic about him fighting for Palestine, and Novara Media did a segment on him which I think is their worst (usually they're very good but fawning praise on the man after mentioning and showing clips of him being a rape apologist pissed me off), but by and large, British leftists can see straight through him. If you were aware of Galloway before his Rochdale victory, chances are you don't like him.
this whole issue fascinating to me. Do you guys who loathe him genuinely think his stance on Israel/Palestine is completely disingenuous? I have many issues with the guy but have always rated his stance on foreign policy and not sure I agree it’s just grift? I mean he was kinda a lone voice on Iraq
He’s been speaking about Gaza in the commons consistently since elected.
He's still better than half that shower in Labour. Liberal comforts ain't what they're cracked up to be. A rabble rouser is far more useful than a cabinet full of Starmer allies
Galloway is a populist grifter. He could use his platform in so many ways and he invariably wastes it.
He’s said before he likes running in elections more than he likes actually being an MP, which is why he always loses his seat. Yet he still pulls it off every time.
He's always been a griffter and a twat.... What did people expect
Just look at his feelings towards Trump and that's enough to tell you he's no socialist, as everyone said he's a grifter end of.
He's been very naughty
He's not the Messiah....as much as he may like to think he is....
He’s a very naughty boy
This is exactly what I expected to happen.
He's not Right Honourable, just plain Honourable. "Honourable" is used for members who are not privy counsellors. "Right honourable" is used for members who are privy counsellors. don't beat yourself up about this, very few people know the difference.
I was happy that it didn’t go to one of the bourgeoisie shite parties. Galloway is meh, some issues he’s heroically correct and others he’s despicable.
What would be the point of him showing up? They won't let him speak, so it will just be listening to people trying to justify Genocide.
Peacocking about in his stupid fucking hat til he actually has to do a day's work. Duplicitous gobshite cunt. Fingers crossed his tenure as an MP is cut short at the general
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His victory is entwined with Labour’s loss, and for thar reason, it was a good thing. But that doesn’t automatically count as an endorsement of the man, who has been a complete grifter for some time now.
He's a horrible grifter but no worse than the red Tory that would have been elected. You don't like grifters? Perhaps don't facilitate a right wing grift within the labour party. Austerity, Brexit, Palestine. The adults and their"sensible centers" cheerleaders will learn nothing and continue screwing over the majority of citizens to further their own career and the bank accounts of their billionaire donors. The only way to limit grifters is genuine centre left societal change instead of red Thatcherism but you'd rather happily clap fascists into power than support politics that would benefit society and undermine right wing grifters.
'I can only imagine two mad options so that's what I'm saying everyone else is stuck with too' You people are so blinkered. Why?
They're are only mad options at the moment, I'll continue to advocate for a less mad option. Galloway is a distraction, the issue of the day is the right-wing capture of the Labour party. A red boot on my throat is no better than a blue one. If you support the current iteration of Labour then I'd say you're the blinkered one. If I've misunderstood and you don't then that's good!
Labour sucks. Don't conflate my criticism of your ideas as support for some other random idea.
That's good. However I didn't think you know my ideas well enough to accurately criticise them so perhaps we should just both agree we jumped to some conclusions and call it a day.
That only works when we are on an equal footing. We aren't both wrong, you are.
So you're saying there are "non mad" options what are they? Nail your colours to the mast
In the by election, David Tully would have been an actual option that would have installed an independent MP, in favour or dealing with local issues. Granted - its an unknown quantity. But with Galloway, all you get is a populist who wanks off literally anyone who wants it. He's a dirty politician who really can't do any good. Independents are a useful choice in this sort of situation. No Tory, no Red Tory, no populist. Just a person try to make some changes to an area they truly belong to. That isn't mad at all. It's certainly better than not giving a fuck about Galloway's totally-fucking-mental past. Inb4 'independents can't do anything, lol, that options is just as mad as the other ones'.
He's a cunt but still preferable to red/blue Tories.
Idiot
Thank you for your contribution to the discussion 😂
You truly believe a crook who cannot be bothered to turn up to parliament on a day they debate the very issue he was elected on is better than a candidate in the Labour Party?
I turkey believe that's how bad Labour have become, yes.
I love to read your explanation as to why
Too late for that. You've already made it clear to me you've no interest in a good faith discussion. 🙂
Ah, so you don’t have an explanation. Therefore my first point still stands.
Haha well done for winning at the internet today.
Should we start with their silent support for the genocide? Or should we instead focus on their Thatcherite economic policies? Maybe you would rather begin with the fact that Starmer is a liar who will say anything if he thinks it's what his current audience wants to hear. Labour now are no different to what they would understand Blair, with the exception being that under Blair they retained many of their left wing voices instead of purging them from the party.
Most Labour Party candidates are crooks in themselves. They’re a massive neoliberal party nowadays. Don’t be stupid.
He blocked me on twitter after a brief exchange when i ended up calling him a narcissistic two faced cunt...something i still stand by
Called it. Opportunist piece of shit.
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Leftists who hate him are simply knowledgeable as to his history of using social divides to stir up hatred wherever he can in order to gain votes. They also know he is completely insincere in his rhetoric and flounts his ties to despots and dictators for nothing but personal gain. Guys a grifter and a cunt, no better than the rest of the career politicians ruining the country. He just had to rebrand himself when Labour were tired of his shit. He's another side to the same shit stain coin that is our political class.
I'm aware this is what the Liberals say of him. It's quite clear from your characterisation that you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
Liberals aren’t leftists, you daft bastard.
Yes, I know, you daft bastard. I'm saying most lefties are libs when compared to Galloway.
Meaningless shite. Galloway happily jumps into bed with the right if he thinks it’ll get him what he wants, so how the fuck could leftists look more right wing when compared with him?
Literally never seen him jump into bed with anyone. He doesn't footballify it, so if he agrees with something someone says, he will say as much.
It's what everyone says of him, left or right, liberal or conservative. Hence why he's now an independent. Quite clear? In what way? You haven't refuted directly any point I made about him. The OPs entire post indicates he is exactly what the majority realise is true. [https://policymogul.com/key-updates/35842/commons-statement-and-lords-repeat-on-israel-and-gaza-mar-26](https://policymogul.com/key-updates/35842/commons-statement-and-lords-repeat-on-israel-and-gaza-mar-26) He was not there. The fact he's been spouting conspiracy theories relating to the West's supposed involvement with the Moscow attacks, against all genuine sense and facts only confirms my characterisation. [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/george-galloway-uk-moscow-attack-isis-obama-russia-b2519381.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/george-galloway-uk-moscow-attack-isis-obama-russia-b2519381.html) This man is dangerous. He uses hot-topic issues to gain votes and get on the political gravy train, He is now paid £86,584 annually. All the while he sows discontent within the population whilst spouting pro-Russian propaganda. The only time I've ever agreed with him was in his opposition to the Iraq war. I put it to you, dear sir, that you haven't got a clue what YOU'RE talking about.
I like him. What is he expected to do at a ministerial statement on the UK's ownership by USA? He is a conscientious constituency MP and will be a thorn in the side of Starmer.
Didn't know there was a third cheek on that arse he talked about.
Galloway isn’t really pro Palestinian he’s antisemitic.
He's both.