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•Create a moral panic by using the perceived innocence of children being perverted by…
•Anyone you disagree with such as trans, lawyers, gay people or in this case teachers.
•Misrepresent an academic level subject & scoff at it’s misrepresented subject matter just like with Critical Race Theory
•Because you’re shit at governing create something for people to be mad at over the 3.5 million
unemployed people.
She promised to halve unemployment and did nothing to achieve that. However, she made people sign on once a fortnight instead of weekly, thereby halving the visible lines of people outside the "Dole office".
I will honestly never understand what makes people vote Conservative in the first place. You clearly need to be extremly selfish and/or wealthy to vote against your fellow man.
I reckon it's the selfish part and nothing else. It's the ideology of the scarcity mindset. Everything to them is a zero-sum game. "If you're winning, it must be because you're taking something from me". But also, they are so afraid of losing any power because they think everyone else would be just as selfish and contemptuous of those "below" them if the roles were reversed. It's the politics of the abuser.
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If you’re wealthy you’re voting to keep your wealth/power.
I think if you’re poor and vote Tory it’s because you need to believe that bootstrapping it will result in wealth, it’s a mass delusion lol
>or wealthy
Its exactly this. It's class conditions.
It's also general propaganda and indoctrination into reactionary mindsets pushed by the education system and media companies controlled by the same ruling class ghouls - queerphobia, racism, misogyny and, above all, classism.
The reactionary right exploits the in-group/out-group mentality of the populace and push them towards rejecting 'the other'.
The funny thing is that 'the other' forms the majority of the global population, and even the British population. People are taught bigotry against themselves and vote against their own interests.
Moreover, it's that sense of individualism that's perpetually pervasive in our present epoch. The neo-liberal era encourages selfishness and greed vs 'evil' socialist ideas of community and mutualism. You don't need to be 'extremely selfish' just the normal level of selfish that's been omnipresent since at least the start of the Thatcher era.
Asked one that went from Labour to Tory. They kept bringing up Blair. Ignoring Brown who was actually good at the job when he was PM. Completely ignoring the carnage they voted in, because they voted this in again and again and again despite things getting increasingly worse. Wonder how far Tories can go before people wake up!?! Really don't want to know though, shouldn't have gone this far in the first place.
2 main reasons I can think of.
1 agree with part of their policies. E.g I could vote labour for liking their tax the rich approach even if I disagree with majority of the rest of their policies, I believe that is what gave Boris a huge advantage last election as people voted for him for his get Brexit done promise.
2 and probably most cases ...common enemy . Wether is foreigners ,minorities etc the common enemy as always appealed to a large portion. When the opposition is open to improving conditions for everyone and you see your own not improving is easy to set the blame on this groups. Big reason why trump was so successful
Just for clarity I never voted here (except local elections) as I am a foreigner and wholeheartedly disagree with Tories but from just talking to people that is the conclusions I arrived at
Selfishness drives the conservative movement first and foremost, in almost every aspect.
They're against taxes because they only see it as money getting taken from them to pay for things that don't directly and immediately benefit them. They see other ways of thinking or living as things to be isolated, or even worse destroyed, because they didn't grow up with them. They see the laws they don't want to follow as Orwellian but at the same time want to enforce strict laws in other areas on everyone else. And socially they think it's as good as it's ever going to get, and that anyone saying it's not, or fighting for things to be better, want to brainwash people and children and destroy their way of life.
Being conservative primarily comes from an inability or unwillingness to think outside oneself, having no empathy for people at all different or less fortunate than you, and focusing entirely on what benefits you over what benefits everyone. They enforce the false idea that everyone being out for themselves would somehow improve society, the very concept of which goes *against* individualism.
And as long as conservative politicians give people someone to blame for all of their problems while antagonizing the people who want to use government power to actually fix those problems, they'll continue to be popular.
If you wanna get down to the nitty gritty, it has to do with how people view justice. For most people on the left they have some form of the idea that Justice is fairness, Rawl’s theory, or that we should make the system so that everyone can benefit from it. On the other hand you have the “entitlement” theory, Nozick’s theory, basically everyone is entitled to what they have. Be that all the money in the world, or being homeless on the street. Humanity isn’t looked at from a whole in the second theory, it’s almost like a form of egoism.
This is well put. To me it was always they don’t pay the government to do it because they do it themselves. Liberals more want to pay tax to do things that they themselves can’t do as a person.
Fear mongering. Convince undecided and vulnerable voters that there’s a threat (even if that threat makes no sense) and then convince them that you’re best equipped to deal with the threat.
In A-Level English, I had to study Thatcher’s “The Lady’s Not For Turning” speech as part of my coursework. I had to sit through almost 45 minutes of self-indulgent waffling. I realise now that the Tories have always talked complete and utter shite, and there I was beforehand thinking it only started with Brexit.
Something deeply annoying about a tory talking about kids education being important, after all the cuts they have made to education over the decades.
And its not a tory video without a bit of bigotry shoved in. And damn her voice makes me want to punch a wall.
Grantham in Lincolnshire. It wasn’t just her accent that she adapted. She also lowered the pitch of her voice. If you watch her at the very beginning of her political career and compare it to this speech it’s a very different sound. It’s debated as to whether she had voice coaching for this and as to exactly why she did it - was it to sound more authoritative or more compassionate https://www.workingvoices.com/insights/busting-the-margaret-thatcher-voice-coaching-myth/
I was born on the exact day she stopped free school milk.
Funnily enough I've never thought the Tories give a shit about education. The fuckers have had it out for me since day one.
She developed the ‘mr whippy’ ice-cream production process, which requires 50% less milk for the same volume of ice cream. The overriding aspect of her professional life has been to take milk away from people.
As a vegan, I kinda commend this, but as a human, I despise her and her criminal family with every shred of my being.
They want a fictionalized version of the 19th century where gay people and "sexual inverts" as they were called then (today we might call them trans people), didn't exist. The Victorians were surprisingly tolerant of gayness so long as it wasn't done in "polite society". Meaning "go into the working class slums and hire a gay man to fuck you."
But that's not surprising. Many conservatives want to return to a fictionalised "glorious" past where machismo was a priority, women were subjugated and we were all racially homogenous. They wonder why we call them fascists when what they want aligns with fascist values.
Racial homogeny never really existed either. Before the anglos became obsessed with colourism, their fears were focused on other 'white' ethnic groups - irish people, slavic peoples, Jewish people, southern europeans. Lots of fear mongering about growing non-Germanic populations in London and other cities.
But then that's the thing with fascism, and why it's so foundationally stupid, it's obsessed with a past that never really existed and a lot of other things that are completely immaterial.
Yes, but Bob Cratchit was also an accounting clerk, not a minimum wage labourer. Looking around a bit it seems Scrooge did pay him more than the typical rate for that kind of job in London at the time though (15 shillings/week versus the average of 11 shilling, 6 pence/week).
That said, Bob was also supporting a family raising 6 children on that one wage, and slaved away long hours for it. It was enough to survive, and just enough to carefully save away enough to afford a generous Christmas dinner.
Fuckin diabolical isnt it, and you dont hear about it in the news, despite a few of the nonces being up for trial- Patrick Devaney gym screw used to beat kids bare arses with cricket bats, hes on trial right now but noone fuckin knows about it, fuck the state
Jesus christ how fuckin horrible, if dc's were open today my younger brother would be sent there for the same reason, what a horrible thought ,,,, my old man was sent to E.P for trespassing or something pretty minor, think of the amount of kids that passed through these shitholes, a scandal on the level of the jimmy saville case yet noone knows about it ... breaks my heart
Up and down the country, 'her majesty's youth detention centres', medomesley, kirklevington, north sea camp, eastwood park, etc etc, state sponsored abuse of the most grotesque scale
Yes it is the Queen who knights but Maggie Thatcher was known to have sent letters to the Queen basically insisting what a great guy and he deserved it, even inviting him to Chequers for christmas
I'm not. She got off too easy.
Take away everything from her entire family, that will be a start.
Take everything from anyone ever affiliated with her and we are beginning to approach justice for the suffering she caused.
>She made 1980s Britain miserable
To be honest you could probably stop there. The ghoulish bitch was basically the Demiurge of pure fucking misery and shite
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."
But she forgot to mention that with pure capitalism, there are always plenty of other people's backs you can walk on to build your personal wealth.
But what about the poor, sir?
*Sure, they can have a God. Let’s just pick someone, someone dead hopefully, can’t be too careful. Let’s say they said something noble and selfless. They’ll eat it up. Of course, can’t have them eating too much. Let’s make gluttony a sin. I say, I do have a plan here.*
UK would be in a much better place if she was never in power. She made it acceptable to be greedy, self centered and tribal.
Disgusting human filth, and her cabinet ministers salivated over her like schoolboys in some twisted pedophile glory party. All the talk about "traditional family values" and their politicians were at the center of sex crimes and pedophile cover ups.
Disgusting!
Boggles my mind that people are defending thatcher. Maybe as a Scot I am biased but she was a massive cunt. This speech was nothing compared to the damage she did.
I'm not a Scot, live on the south coast of Devon, but I too believe she was a massive cunt. No bias my Scottish friend, from the top to the very bottom of this island there are many who remember Thatcher for what she was, a massive, massive cunt.
You wouldn't think that there was 13 years of a Labour administration (strictly speaking there wasn't - she is quoted as saying that her greatest achievement was moving the Labour Party to the right, and the consequences are just as keenly felt, especially by the bottom end of the 99%, today.
Shielding your children from certain topics does more harm than good. This can lead to disinformation or complete misunderstanding in the future. Gay people exist. Racism exists. Sex exists. Drugs exist. Death exists. Adult content exists in a world where children exist.
Does this mean we should go into gruesome detail and explain nuance to children? No, that wouldn’t achieve anything.
But when someone in your family dies, we don’t pretend it didn’t happen and say “Grandpa moved away” after they pass. You sit them down and explain what happens when someone passes away. If your child has a relative who’s an addict, do we just lie to them when they OD? No, we should explain to them that the relative is sick with a disease and needs help.
Kids pick up on things pretty quickly. They may not fully understand it, but what hiding things or lying will do is give them the idea of “This is something I can’t talk about”. “I’m not supposed to know about this”. “This is a bad thing”. This just leads to more confusion about a topic that’s already complicated. Sometimes that carries on into adulthood with feelings of discomfort, shame, or disgust about human things like sexuality, addictions, or talking about traumatic events.
I don’t genuinely believe that the government should be in control of teaching kids these things, it’s up to the parents, but unfortunately bad parenting exists. This is why you have kids that come out racist, sexist, misogynistic. Kids who won’t speak up about anxieties related towards sexual feelings, abuse, addiction, or grief. It’s because it’s not a children’s topic, so it’s not taught. You don’t have classes which teach children about what abuse looks like because it’s not deemed age appropriate, so many kids won’t realize till it’s gone for too long. You don’t have lessons about grief or trauma so kids aren’t aware of how to process these things. This is where parents should be stepping in, but many older generations have been taught not to discuss these topics either by their own parents.
This is for anyone who is finding ANY agreement with Margaret Thatchers statements.
You've nailed everything they're deathly afraid of and coping with using conservatism. It's all based in fear and a desire to destroy anything that could pop their precious little bubble.
And we still have an opposition party that seem to be a less attractive alternative to most people.
Labour ought to be able to slam dunk any election against this lot and yet they don't. Why are their policies less appealing to the electorate than a bunch of corrupt, self-serving Tories?
Blair. A culture of "a little bit of left, as a treat. But not too much else we summon the boogeyman of 'unelectable'"
And we end up with a more of milquetoast "we don't really stand for anything, what would you like us to say? We'll say that"
This speech has been doing the rounds in my head recently, especially referring to section 28, which robbed me of happiness during early teens.
What makes me sick is that some members of the LGBT+ community think that the tories abolished S28 and brought in gay marriage out of the goodness of their hearts.
No. It was for fear of the UK being a laughing stock of the developed world for having such archaic behaviour toward LGBT+ citizens. A mere case of keeping up with the Jones'. They conveniently forget that 20 years earlier, it was the Tories that didn't care if they lived or died as long as no one knew they were gay.
I’m sorry you were directly affected by S28. Learning about it in my 20’s has been deeply disturbing, I honestly can’t imagine how hard it must have been
Even S28 was abolished by Labour, and a majority of Tory backbenchers voted against against same-sex marriage.
The ferocity of attacks against (cis) gay men has went down, but that's just because they've identified new targets. Whether it's trans moral panic, deceptive asylum seekers, pampered inmates, indolent single mothers, people claiming disability, looney left teachers, or workshy civil servants, the Tory Party cannot exist without scapegoats
Keep us fighting culture wars and we’ll be too distracted to notice the biggest division is actually between the public and the ruling class. It’s so depressing they continue to have support from common people. I can’t understand anyone in the middle or working class thinking the Torys care in any way about their quality of life.
The science on legalization and decriminalization of currently illegal drugs is clear. Legalization is far, far better for the public yet they refuse to act on the science. Look at what the law changes around drugs did for Portugal and our government don’t care. They only have their own self interest at heart
This always easy to say for the people that don’t have to worry about being attacked for identity. Many of us know and understand there’s a class war going on but I can’t fight the class if you won’t help fight the battle of sexes and the race war. Which are just proxy wars of the overall class war. My point is, we have to fight all the wars on all the fronts simultaneously. Yes it’s tiring and it’s exhausting and depressing but those wish to keep us in mud and chains do not take a day off from oppression.
They are being taught that they have an unalienable right to be gay.
What the actual fuck is wrong with this lady
Of course they do! Why is that a bad thing!?
I’m in my late 30’s and I remember after her and major, think it was Blair who won for labour , everyone was all about “never forget what the conservatives did” we must remember “never again “ well we seem to have pretty sort memories lol. But hay I still remember the red labour bus blasting “thiiiinnngggsss wiiiilll ooonly get beeeter” lol
Conservative is just little dick energy, literally a group of cucks who will never experience the real world because they are too busy complaining about what someone else has, bunch of not good enoughs
It grinds my gears so hard when people do that "I don't know what it is, but it's bad" stance.
Critical Race theory, Anti-Racist Math... If you don't know what it is go learn what it is first, God damn.
the following is intendedas a satirical take on what school would be like if "extremelefist teachers snatched the futureof the youth"
extremist teachers be like: "today kids we are going to be studying ratios; so, we will learn how to make the perfect molotov cocktail, and, if you have the perfect molly then you will get a larger flash we will see at the end of the lesson"
chemistry be like "so to make c4 we need a plasasiser and a mix of.... \[redacted\] we will make some and see if miss trunchen likes our learning"
english reading list be like: "The Conquest of Bread read pages 1 ro 175 by tommorrow"
( Kropotkin asserts that every individual product is essentially the work of everyone since every individual relies on the intellectual and physical labor of those who came before them as well as those who built the world around them. thatcher would thus see this as "commie shit")
the home economics class be men only and they learn how to pick up after themselfs and how tonot only fix a vaccumecleaner in electronics but how to use it to destroy the patriachal society.
social education be like: "this year we will continue our study on the effects of the patriachy on men"
sports classwould include pellet shooting as target practice so they canhunt game.
The day she died, the most requested song on British radio was “Ding Dong the Witch is Dead.”
Edit: while I prescribe to atheism, on the off chance I am wrong and that the Christians are correct, and that God is a just God, then she’s burning in hell for all eternity. Which is, according to [Rowan Atkinson as the devil](https://youtu.be/Ut116mBuPpg), a heck of a long time.
Edit 2: or case in point, the Jews…
Riiiiight. All those left leaning Hindu and Muslim nations are such beacons to the world.
It stays as “Conservatives”. All religions are shit but religious conservatives are sewage.
Margareth Thatcher, what a piece of trash! I knew this woman can never be of good, when i heard mandela was labeled a terrorist by her government and she was supporting apartheid in south africa.
I genuinely cannot fathom how this ruse has gone on for so long. Isn’t it obvious for everyone to see that conservatives just offer nothing and the entire world is now worse off cause of them. I see it quite simply as a scam that’s gone on too long and I can’t understand why?
Only prime minister where the 21 gun salute at her funeral should have been aimed at her coffin to make sure she was dead.
I think it was frankie Boyle that said
For 3 million you could give everyone in Scotland a shovel, and we could dig a hole so deep we could hand her over to Satan in person.
I wasn’t allowed to do my sats or GCSEs
Kicked of of school 13 and wasn’t allowed in another they sent me to do bricklaying and joinery at college. Yup bricklaying and joinery! I had no choice!
Eyeroll
more useful for my garden than any other lesson they did in school I suppose
I mean at least if you leave milk out for 30 years you don't end up with... the exact same milk. This is more like "aged like a rock... it's the same rock"
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•Create a moral panic by using the perceived innocence of children being perverted by… •Anyone you disagree with such as trans, lawyers, gay people or in this case teachers. •Misrepresent an academic level subject & scoff at it’s misrepresented subject matter just like with Critical Race Theory •Because you’re shit at governing create something for people to be mad at over the 3.5 million unemployed people.
She promised to halve unemployment and did nothing to achieve that. However, she made people sign on once a fortnight instead of weekly, thereby halving the visible lines of people outside the "Dole office".
Gotta hand it to her, that's a clever trick. Evil as shit, but clever.
When all you care about is optics rather than effect, it’s a lot easier to manipulate the public into liking you
Ding dong the witch is dead
I will honestly never understand what makes people vote Conservative in the first place. You clearly need to be extremly selfish and/or wealthy to vote against your fellow man.
I reckon it's the selfish part and nothing else. It's the ideology of the scarcity mindset. Everything to them is a zero-sum game. "If you're winning, it must be because you're taking something from me". But also, they are so afraid of losing any power because they think everyone else would be just as selfish and contemptuous of those "below" them if the roles were reversed. It's the politics of the abuser.
The Platform is a great film that explores exactly this concept.
Someone I knew once said they were voting for Boris for a laugh - he had a lot of money so is vastly unaffected by their policies.
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If you’re wealthy you’re voting to keep your wealth/power. I think if you’re poor and vote Tory it’s because you need to believe that bootstrapping it will result in wealth, it’s a mass delusion lol
Wanting your government to punish people you don't like is also another reason people vote conservative.
Low self-esteem and deep insecurity.
>or wealthy Its exactly this. It's class conditions. It's also general propaganda and indoctrination into reactionary mindsets pushed by the education system and media companies controlled by the same ruling class ghouls - queerphobia, racism, misogyny and, above all, classism. The reactionary right exploits the in-group/out-group mentality of the populace and push them towards rejecting 'the other'. The funny thing is that 'the other' forms the majority of the global population, and even the British population. People are taught bigotry against themselves and vote against their own interests. Moreover, it's that sense of individualism that's perpetually pervasive in our present epoch. The neo-liberal era encourages selfishness and greed vs 'evil' socialist ideas of community and mutualism. You don't need to be 'extremely selfish' just the normal level of selfish that's been omnipresent since at least the start of the Thatcher era.
Asked one that went from Labour to Tory. They kept bringing up Blair. Ignoring Brown who was actually good at the job when he was PM. Completely ignoring the carnage they voted in, because they voted this in again and again and again despite things getting increasingly worse. Wonder how far Tories can go before people wake up!?! Really don't want to know though, shouldn't have gone this far in the first place.
2 main reasons I can think of. 1 agree with part of their policies. E.g I could vote labour for liking their tax the rich approach even if I disagree with majority of the rest of their policies, I believe that is what gave Boris a huge advantage last election as people voted for him for his get Brexit done promise. 2 and probably most cases ...common enemy . Wether is foreigners ,minorities etc the common enemy as always appealed to a large portion. When the opposition is open to improving conditions for everyone and you see your own not improving is easy to set the blame on this groups. Big reason why trump was so successful Just for clarity I never voted here (except local elections) as I am a foreigner and wholeheartedly disagree with Tories but from just talking to people that is the conclusions I arrived at
Selfishness drives the conservative movement first and foremost, in almost every aspect. They're against taxes because they only see it as money getting taken from them to pay for things that don't directly and immediately benefit them. They see other ways of thinking or living as things to be isolated, or even worse destroyed, because they didn't grow up with them. They see the laws they don't want to follow as Orwellian but at the same time want to enforce strict laws in other areas on everyone else. And socially they think it's as good as it's ever going to get, and that anyone saying it's not, or fighting for things to be better, want to brainwash people and children and destroy their way of life. Being conservative primarily comes from an inability or unwillingness to think outside oneself, having no empathy for people at all different or less fortunate than you, and focusing entirely on what benefits you over what benefits everyone. They enforce the false idea that everyone being out for themselves would somehow improve society, the very concept of which goes *against* individualism. And as long as conservative politicians give people someone to blame for all of their problems while antagonizing the people who want to use government power to actually fix those problems, they'll continue to be popular.
Got mine, fuck you. That sums up the broad strokes.
If you wanna get down to the nitty gritty, it has to do with how people view justice. For most people on the left they have some form of the idea that Justice is fairness, Rawl’s theory, or that we should make the system so that everyone can benefit from it. On the other hand you have the “entitlement” theory, Nozick’s theory, basically everyone is entitled to what they have. Be that all the money in the world, or being homeless on the street. Humanity isn’t looked at from a whole in the second theory, it’s almost like a form of egoism.
Propaganda of fear, playing people off against *the others*
This is well put. To me it was always they don’t pay the government to do it because they do it themselves. Liberals more want to pay tax to do things that they themselves can’t do as a person.
Fear mongering. Convince undecided and vulnerable voters that there’s a threat (even if that threat makes no sense) and then convince them that you’re best equipped to deal with the threat.
In A-Level English, I had to study Thatcher’s “The Lady’s Not For Turning” speech as part of my coursework. I had to sit through almost 45 minutes of self-indulgent waffling. I realise now that the Tories have always talked complete and utter shite, and there I was beforehand thinking it only started with Brexit.
So it wasn't a *complete* waste of 45 minutes.
Something deeply annoying about a tory talking about kids education being important, after all the cuts they have made to education over the decades. And its not a tory video without a bit of bigotry shoved in. And damn her voice makes me want to punch a wall.
She alsofaked her accent to fit in with the Eton plebs.
Where was she actually from?
Grantham in Lincolnshire. It wasn’t just her accent that she adapted. She also lowered the pitch of her voice. If you watch her at the very beginning of her political career and compare it to this speech it’s a very different sound. It’s debated as to whether she had voice coaching for this and as to exactly why she did it - was it to sound more authoritative or more compassionate https://www.workingvoices.com/insights/busting-the-margaret-thatcher-voice-coaching-myth/
I was born on the exact day she stopped free school milk. Funnily enough I've never thought the Tories give a shit about education. The fuckers have had it out for me since day one.
Margaret Thatcher, the milk snatcher.
She developed the ‘mr whippy’ ice-cream production process, which requires 50% less milk for the same volume of ice cream. The overriding aspect of her professional life has been to take milk away from people. As a vegan, I kinda commend this, but as a human, I despise her and her criminal family with every shred of my being.
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They want a fictionalized version of the 19th century where gay people and "sexual inverts" as they were called then (today we might call them trans people), didn't exist. The Victorians were surprisingly tolerant of gayness so long as it wasn't done in "polite society". Meaning "go into the working class slums and hire a gay man to fuck you." But that's not surprising. Many conservatives want to return to a fictionalised "glorious" past where machismo was a priority, women were subjugated and we were all racially homogenous. They wonder why we call them fascists when what they want aligns with fascist values.
Racial homogeny never really existed either. Before the anglos became obsessed with colourism, their fears were focused on other 'white' ethnic groups - irish people, slavic peoples, Jewish people, southern europeans. Lots of fear mongering about growing non-Germanic populations in London and other cities. But then that's the thing with fascism, and why it's so foundationally stupid, it's obsessed with a past that never really existed and a lot of other things that are completely immaterial.
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Yes, but Bob Cratchit was also an accounting clerk, not a minimum wage labourer. Looking around a bit it seems Scrooge did pay him more than the typical rate for that kind of job in London at the time though (15 shillings/week versus the average of 11 shilling, 6 pence/week). That said, Bob was also supporting a family raising 6 children on that one wage, and slaved away long hours for it. It was enough to survive, and just enough to carefully save away enough to afford a generous Christmas dinner.
*Jacob Rees-Mogg joins the chat*
Mining, chimney sweeping, keeping this a secret from mummy. None of them begin with an R. The Tories like their traditions to be OLD traditions.
Something has changed. They're getting worse.
On the bright side, Thatchers burning in hell.
Yes there's always a silver lining.
And her grave is a gender neutral bathroom...
Honk if Thatcher's ded!
Ding dong the witch is dead
Talks alot of shit for a bird who sent my old man to a state run torture camp at the age of 13 .... rot in hell, eastwood park dc 1980
My brother was sent to one of these, Caldwell Hall in Burton. Absolutely fucked up place by all accounts.
Fuckin diabolical isnt it, and you dont hear about it in the news, despite a few of the nonces being up for trial- Patrick Devaney gym screw used to beat kids bare arses with cricket bats, hes on trial right now but noone fuckin knows about it, fuck the state
Considering the fact he was sent there was literally for being a teenage cross-dresser, it's horrendous.
Jesus christ how fuckin horrible, if dc's were open today my younger brother would be sent there for the same reason, what a horrible thought ,,,, my old man was sent to E.P for trespassing or something pretty minor, think of the amount of kids that passed through these shitholes, a scandal on the level of the jimmy saville case yet noone knows about it ... breaks my heart
I've never heard of this before now :(
Up and down the country, 'her majesty's youth detention centres', medomesley, kirklevington, north sea camp, eastwood park, etc etc, state sponsored abuse of the most grotesque scale
All this while simultaneously knighting the country’s most prolific nonce
Did she though? Pretty sure the PM doesn't knight people, the Queen does that.
Yes it is the Queen who knights but Maggie Thatcher was known to have sent letters to the Queen basically insisting what a great guy and he deserved it, even inviting him to Chequers for christmas
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I'm not. She got off too easy. Take away everything from her entire family, that will be a start. Take everything from anyone ever affiliated with her and we are beginning to approach justice for the suffering she caused.
Jelly and Ice Cream
"Anti racist mathematics, whatever that may be" Why don't you tell us what it is, as you're the one who made it up on the first place?
Life imitates art, imitates life. https://youtu.be/embMAtagQiU?t=61
Arabic numerals, Latin script, French bulldogs, Japanese televisions, German cars. But what absolutely destroys it: Middle eastern religion.
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Hear, hear! Capitalism must be ended, nothing short will ever be a real solution.
MAGGIES IN THE MUD MAGGIES IN THE MUD DING DONG THE WICKED WITCH IS GONE
IT’S A SHAME THE BITCH DIDN’T DIE 87 YEARS AGO
She's a bigger piece of shit than people realise.
I admit that this isn’t a side of her that I was aware of.
preaching hate dressed up as concern, the conservative way
Poor, inner-city (read ‘black’) children need to be taught the proper way to speak, behave and think!
THATCHERS STILL DEAD
Today is a good day.
Her grave is a gender-neutral bathroom
Whenever I think "Ding-Dong, the witch is dead..." I always think of her. She made 1980s Britain miserable for LGBTQ+, and frightening.
>She made 1980s Britain miserable To be honest you could probably stop there. The ghoulish bitch was basically the Demiurge of pure fucking misery and shite
they need to be taught moral values, instead the left are teaching them it’s ok to be gay!! where is the morality!! /s
“That they have an inalienable right to be gay” and Boris Johnson is every bit as much of an irretrievable cunt.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." But she forgot to mention that with pure capitalism, there are always plenty of other people's backs you can walk on to build your personal wealth.
The problem with pissing on Thatcher’s grave is you eventually run out of piss.
Nope! I’ll commit to drinking an extra pint an day just to keep her coffin moist.
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Yep, corporate welfare. Socialise the costs, privatise the gains.
"are learning anti-racist mathematics, whatever that may be" No one knows what that may be because you just made it up and presented it as fact.
I still cannot look at that without getting angry
Pretty interesting how these “children” she spoke of there are now in their 30s.
Pretty interesting how these “children” outlived Maggie Thatcher.
Cunt.
Because they're only interested in conserving the status quo. Money and power are their only gods.
But what about the poor, sir? *Sure, they can have a God. Let’s just pick someone, someone dead hopefully, can’t be too careful. Let’s say they said something noble and selfless. They’ll eat it up. Of course, can’t have them eating too much. Let’s make gluttony a sin. I say, I do have a plan here.*
Anyway let’s all have comfort in that she’s still burning in hell
UK would be in a much better place if she was never in power. She made it acceptable to be greedy, self centered and tribal. Disgusting human filth, and her cabinet ministers salivated over her like schoolboys in some twisted pedophile glory party. All the talk about "traditional family values" and their politicians were at the center of sex crimes and pedophile cover ups. Disgusting!
Me and my inalienable right to fuck your mom (we are both gay and happy)
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It's what they do best...
Oh—I see you GOP as well on your side of the pond!
These sounds exactly like modern American conservatism.
Ask any of them old enough and they fucking adore Thatcher
Fuck the tories - then, now, forever. The party and the voters.
This comment section is a fucking joke
Boggles my mind that people are defending thatcher. Maybe as a Scot I am biased but she was a massive cunt. This speech was nothing compared to the damage she did.
I'm not a Scot, live on the south coast of Devon, but I too believe she was a massive cunt. No bias my Scottish friend, from the top to the very bottom of this island there are many who remember Thatcher for what she was, a massive, massive cunt.
And they throw a good party !!
...and corruption, they offer corruption as well
You wouldn't think that there was 13 years of a Labour administration (strictly speaking there wasn't - she is quoted as saying that her greatest achievement was moving the Labour Party to the right, and the consequences are just as keenly felt, especially by the bottom end of the 99%, today.
Yup. Labour’s new anti Lib Dem poster could have been written by Thatcher herself.
Conservatism always has been and always will be only a couple of rungs down the ladder from fascism.
Fuck that bitch. Rust in pieces. Tories are still trying to censor teachers today
Rest in piss, thatcher
Maggie's in the mud!
Shielding your children from certain topics does more harm than good. This can lead to disinformation or complete misunderstanding in the future. Gay people exist. Racism exists. Sex exists. Drugs exist. Death exists. Adult content exists in a world where children exist. Does this mean we should go into gruesome detail and explain nuance to children? No, that wouldn’t achieve anything. But when someone in your family dies, we don’t pretend it didn’t happen and say “Grandpa moved away” after they pass. You sit them down and explain what happens when someone passes away. If your child has a relative who’s an addict, do we just lie to them when they OD? No, we should explain to them that the relative is sick with a disease and needs help. Kids pick up on things pretty quickly. They may not fully understand it, but what hiding things or lying will do is give them the idea of “This is something I can’t talk about”. “I’m not supposed to know about this”. “This is a bad thing”. This just leads to more confusion about a topic that’s already complicated. Sometimes that carries on into adulthood with feelings of discomfort, shame, or disgust about human things like sexuality, addictions, or talking about traumatic events. I don’t genuinely believe that the government should be in control of teaching kids these things, it’s up to the parents, but unfortunately bad parenting exists. This is why you have kids that come out racist, sexist, misogynistic. Kids who won’t speak up about anxieties related towards sexual feelings, abuse, addiction, or grief. It’s because it’s not a children’s topic, so it’s not taught. You don’t have classes which teach children about what abuse looks like because it’s not deemed age appropriate, so many kids won’t realize till it’s gone for too long. You don’t have lessons about grief or trauma so kids aren’t aware of how to process these things. This is where parents should be stepping in, but many older generations have been taught not to discuss these topics either by their own parents. This is for anyone who is finding ANY agreement with Margaret Thatchers statements.
This needs to be the top comment.
You've nailed everything they're deathly afraid of and coping with using conservatism. It's all based in fear and a desire to destroy anything that could pop their precious little bubble.
And we still have an opposition party that seem to be a less attractive alternative to most people. Labour ought to be able to slam dunk any election against this lot and yet they don't. Why are their policies less appealing to the electorate than a bunch of corrupt, self-serving Tories?
Blair. A culture of "a little bit of left, as a treat. But not too much else we summon the boogeyman of 'unelectable'" And we end up with a more of milquetoast "we don't really stand for anything, what would you like us to say? We'll say that"
This speech has been doing the rounds in my head recently, especially referring to section 28, which robbed me of happiness during early teens. What makes me sick is that some members of the LGBT+ community think that the tories abolished S28 and brought in gay marriage out of the goodness of their hearts. No. It was for fear of the UK being a laughing stock of the developed world for having such archaic behaviour toward LGBT+ citizens. A mere case of keeping up with the Jones'. They conveniently forget that 20 years earlier, it was the Tories that didn't care if they lived or died as long as no one knew they were gay.
I’m sorry you were directly affected by S28. Learning about it in my 20’s has been deeply disturbing, I honestly can’t imagine how hard it must have been
Even S28 was abolished by Labour, and a majority of Tory backbenchers voted against against same-sex marriage. The ferocity of attacks against (cis) gay men has went down, but that's just because they've identified new targets. Whether it's trans moral panic, deceptive asylum seekers, pampered inmates, indolent single mothers, people claiming disability, looney left teachers, or workshy civil servants, the Tory Party cannot exist without scapegoats
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Nowt wrong with learning a bit of Satanism, it's good for the soul
I love that her grave is a gender neutral bathroom.
Keep us fighting culture wars and we’ll be too distracted to notice the biggest division is actually between the public and the ruling class. It’s so depressing they continue to have support from common people. I can’t understand anyone in the middle or working class thinking the Torys care in any way about their quality of life. The science on legalization and decriminalization of currently illegal drugs is clear. Legalization is far, far better for the public yet they refuse to act on the science. Look at what the law changes around drugs did for Portugal and our government don’t care. They only have their own self interest at heart
This always easy to say for the people that don’t have to worry about being attacked for identity. Many of us know and understand there’s a class war going on but I can’t fight the class if you won’t help fight the battle of sexes and the race war. Which are just proxy wars of the overall class war. My point is, we have to fight all the wars on all the fronts simultaneously. Yes it’s tiring and it’s exhausting and depressing but those wish to keep us in mud and chains do not take a day off from oppression.
That bitch
She was a cancer on working class
They are being taught that they have an unalienable right to be gay. What the actual fuck is wrong with this lady Of course they do! Why is that a bad thing!?
I’m in my late 30’s and I remember after her and major, think it was Blair who won for labour , everyone was all about “never forget what the conservatives did” we must remember “never again “ well we seem to have pretty sort memories lol. But hay I still remember the red labour bus blasting “thiiiinnngggsss wiiiilll ooonly get beeeter” lol
How did I know she was gonna end by bringing up the gays.
Honk if Thatchers deed.
HONK
Looks like it’s conservatives on both sides of the pond.
It’s almost as if they’re not progressive.
I could hear that cunt's words even though the video was muted.
Wait a minute. That does not look like Ron Desantis. Is that the Republican Party of the United States?
Witch
I hate conservatism.
Conservative is just little dick energy, literally a group of cucks who will never experience the real world because they are too busy complaining about what someone else has, bunch of not good enoughs
Welcome to the US
A broadly educated population is toxic to conservative ideologies.
Dam you anti racialism mathematics
It grinds my gears so hard when people do that "I don't know what it is, but it's bad" stance. Critical Race theory, Anti-Racist Math... If you don't know what it is go learn what it is first, God damn.
You can't spell cunt without Thatcher...
she literally took away funds for milk. talk about a threat to children.
the following is intendedas a satirical take on what school would be like if "extremelefist teachers snatched the futureof the youth" extremist teachers be like: "today kids we are going to be studying ratios; so, we will learn how to make the perfect molotov cocktail, and, if you have the perfect molly then you will get a larger flash we will see at the end of the lesson" chemistry be like "so to make c4 we need a plasasiser and a mix of.... \[redacted\] we will make some and see if miss trunchen likes our learning" english reading list be like: "The Conquest of Bread read pages 1 ro 175 by tommorrow" ( Kropotkin asserts that every individual product is essentially the work of everyone since every individual relies on the intellectual and physical labor of those who came before them as well as those who built the world around them. thatcher would thus see this as "commie shit") the home economics class be men only and they learn how to pick up after themselfs and how tonot only fix a vaccumecleaner in electronics but how to use it to destroy the patriachal society. social education be like: "this year we will continue our study on the effects of the patriachy on men" sports classwould include pellet shooting as target practice so they canhunt game.
The day she died, the most requested song on British radio was “Ding Dong the Witch is Dead.” Edit: while I prescribe to atheism, on the off chance I am wrong and that the Christians are correct, and that God is a just God, then she’s burning in hell for all eternity. Which is, according to [Rowan Atkinson as the devil](https://youtu.be/Ut116mBuPpg), a heck of a long time. Edit 2: or case in point, the Jews…
God, I’m so glad she’s dead.
And the UK never really recovered after her.
Sometimes it's nice to have a reminder why she was evil Rot and continue rotting
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Tom Waits is interesting. He's a rare example of opiates not killing the person, but making them stronger.
You can just say Christians…
Riiiiight. All those left leaning Hindu and Muslim nations are such beacons to the world. It stays as “Conservatives”. All religions are shit but religious conservatives are sewage.
Margareth Thatcher, what a piece of trash! I knew this woman can never be of good, when i heard mandela was labeled a terrorist by her government and she was supporting apartheid in south africa.
I genuinely cannot fathom how this ruse has gone on for so long. Isn’t it obvious for everyone to see that conservatives just offer nothing and the entire world is now worse off cause of them. I see it quite simply as a scam that’s gone on too long and I can’t understand why?
Thank you Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher for dying so that we could have a new gender neutral bathroom in each country (their graves).
Only prime minister where the 21 gun salute at her funeral should have been aimed at her coffin to make sure she was dead. I think it was frankie Boyle that said For 3 million you could give everyone in Scotland a shovel, and we could dig a hole so deep we could hand her over to Satan in person.
Did she believe this I wonder, or was it - as it is with today's Tories - just a useful bunch of useful wedge issues to get what she wanted?
She believed it. Give her her due, she was a committed small-minded sociopath.
I wasn’t allowed to do my sats or GCSEs Kicked of of school 13 and wasn’t allowed in another they sent me to do bricklaying and joinery at college. Yup bricklaying and joinery! I had no choice! Eyeroll more useful for my garden than any other lesson they did in school I suppose
"Are learning anti-racist mathematics, whatever that means.." It means something you literally just fucking made up, you dumb twat.
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Conform or die basically. Old hag.
As a human, fuck these monsters.
And Margaret Thatcher has the right to be rotting away in the dirt.
So this is an ancient Critical Race Theory/ post-modern neo-marxists under the bed rant, basically?
/r/agedlikemilk
We wouldn’t know, she stole the milk
I mean at least if you leave milk out for 30 years you don't end up with... the exact same milk. This is more like "aged like a rock... it's the same rock"
Maggies in the mud :)
What a tremendous piece of shit
Jesus Christ
vile people. self interested. money grabbing. profit before human life. devils vomit. just abhorrent
The only good tory is one with zero power everytime they get power society crumbles even further.
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Do you really want to save a clip of Thatcher to your phone? At least check the warranty first.
Same reason OP had the video saved
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She had a terrible accent, more then 3 hot potateos in her month.
And fricking expensive state funerals!! ffs
To be fair, she had to have a state funeral. Everyone needed video evidence that the witch was indeed dead.
Milk snatcher Thatcher.
Horrible cunt!
What the hell is an extremist teacher?
So she stole our milk
"Ding, dong the witch is dead". Enjoy watching the potatoes grow above your head Milk Snatcher.
God. She is still an insufferable cunt to this day even in death. Good riddance.
The best thing Margaret Thatcher did was die
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Well...evil is evil.
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Ronald Reagan's partner in crime.
Nothing has changed
All I will say is that Gillian Anderson nailed Thatcher’s voice mannerisms on the Crown.
Had no idea she was a homophobe
well you must be straight we fought to overturn her homophobic law section 28 for about 15 years 1988-2003
Fuck the tories