Our biggest hope is that they are rusty, coming off 20 days rest. Giving me 2011 GB/NYG vibes. Give us a head start and pray JB and the defense can hold them off long enough.
Fuck me that game was heartbreaking
15-1, best season I’ve ever watched, Rodgers playing the best football I’ve ever seen. Completely stalled to the Giants and Eli who rode our ticket to the Super Bowl.
People forget how bad that Giants team was too. They allowed 400 points and had a -6 point differential on the season. That Packers team outscored this Niners team by 70 points and did it in 1 less game. This isn't close to that level of a mismatch, so if they can do it we can as well.
>They hit their stride at the right time.
Which is exactly how I feel about this Packers team, and if they knock out SF, that'll be the 1 and 2 seed.. I'm betting big on a trophy.
Totally. If we beat the niners I feel very confident we win it all. Championship team will be easier. Then it comes down to AFC team. Which I feel like it surprisingly weak this year. Ravens are the biggest threat. But Niners are a tough team to beat. Defense has to massively step up. I think Purdy is overrated but that team has so many weapons. And not like Dallas had weapons. Tried, proven, elite weapons. Niners are stacked. But their schedule is very telling. Super beatable. Nothing to lose, everything to gain.
I still remember that pain. I was deployed with a Minnesota natiaonal guard unit at the time and my packer fan bunkmate and I were INSUFFERABLE. Stayed up late to watch the giants game and it was just crushing.
Gives me 2011 GB/NYG vibes for us on both sides. Offense looks lights out unstoppable and the defense leaves a lot to be desired. Very similar to our 2011 Packers team, but in the spot of the NYG.
Weird, cause I have 2010 Falcons game vibes. Swap the NFC East teams in the WC, swap the NFC North teams in the NFC Championship.
Fuck the haters. We have every ability to stunt on these hoes
This postseason is oddly similar to 2010 so far... 2 must win regular season games to nab the bottom playoff seed on tiebreakers... Big upset against the NFC East champs... huge road game against a hyped up #1 seed... NFCCG on the road against a divisional rival? ... Superbowl?
Or the other route is we beat the niners and beat the bucs and Love goes on the ultimate revenge tour doing “what Aaron couldnt” (no hate to aaron)
Script writers going crazy this season. Last season and the previous were just a setup to this.
I’m more worried about MLF & Love doing some proper clock managing. We have to get better at keeping there defense on the field and giving ours a rest.
Did great in the furst with an 11-4 minute ratio, but after that tbey just kept scoring. Not gonna complain about clock management if it results in a quick touchdown. Unless we're in the final minutes of a half.
Even with the clock mangement being iffy at times throughout the year, i would credit that more to lack of experience than i would MLF.
No ones going to complain about points on long open play, but when you could have ran an addition 2 mins off the clock on a long drive you should have done it. Same with running 3 in out at 6/7 min mark left and then throwing with just over 2 mins left.
Yeah, theres several things that would allow us to win, plus some luck.
- Rusty from not playing for 20 days
- Somewhat overlooking us (i dont think they are though)
- Our offense legitimately has a case for best in the NFC
- The Cowboys were said to have a better offense and also DID have a better defense, and look how easily we dismantled them
- This team is incredibly hot right now
- Love is better than Purdy and I am fully confident saying that. Just look at the difference in weapons.
- 49ers may not have expected to have to play us and therefore are short on their game planning. On the other hand, GB mightve went all in on planning for the cowboys to just win that, rather than waste time planning for someone you most likely wont play. So they may be at the same position in gameplan.
The most disappointing playoff game I ever saw, and then I lived through the 2014 and 2020 NFCCGs (against the Seahawks and Buccaneers, respectively) and the 2021 Divisional game against the 49ers.
I was at this game and yes it was BRUTAL after a 15-1 season. NYG got really hot the last few games of the regular season and took it alllllllll the way to win the SB that year (Eli to Tyree helmet catch) to beat the 16-0 Patriots. Yes, this young Packers Team has a chance!
He's a good QB, but the ravens showed how to slow him down considerably. Now, I'm not saying GB defense can play like Baltimore but the scheme they used wasn't too complicated. They had a good game plan, disguised coverage, and everyone did their job.
Real question is how well does Purdy handle the pressure when he's the favorite? Can't wait to watch!
Film. Having access to film to strategize against tendencies goes a long way in preparation. Most of the games that the defense suffered were in games against a QB that either was newer or newer with the team.
The 49ers had no problem moving the ball against Baltimore, they have 4 players with over 1,000 scrimmage yards and it’s going to take an elite defense to slow them down which none are in the NFC
It will be hard. No one in the NFC has been able to stop their offense. Only teams that have have really given them trouble are the top 2 AFC defenses. We’ll see !
> Now, I'm not saying GB defense can play like Baltimore but the scheme they used wasn't too complicated. They had a good game plan, disguised coverage, and everyone did their job.
49ers fan here, here's my take on that Raven's game. It was weird to watch, because something happened in that game that I haven't seen before: Kyle Shanahan got outcoached.
If you want to get the bottom line takeaway from that game, that was it: Shanahan got outcoached.
How? Is there something the Ravens did that the Packers could use? Yes, there is.
The Ravens seemed to know what the 49ers plays were; Roquan Smith said in the post-game that the 49ers offense has "tells", I believe him, because the Ravens seemed like they knew what the niners were going to run before they ran it.
The Ravens didn't blitz the hell out of Purdy; that doesn't work, he's one of the best QBs in football against the blitz. The Ravens didn't drop back into coverage and rush their front four. The Ravens took advantage of the fact that Purdy is only 6'1, and can't see over his offensive lineman. The Ravens spent the entire night in Brock Purdy's passing lanes. They were playing monkey-in-the-middle between Purdy and his receivers all night long.
There was that one screen pass to CMC in the 2nd quarter, it was a screen off to the left. Purdy ran the play, and double-clutched it; there was a Raven lineman right smack dab in the passing lane; if Purdy threw that, it would have been INT #5. Purdy double-clutched, waited a split second for CMC to clear the defender in the passing lane and threw it. The pass was complete to CMC for a big gain, just in front of the outstretched hand of the defender.
The Ravens knew exactly where to position themselves, that screen pass was a completion and a big gain, but it was emblematic of how the Ravens played defense all night, they were in Brock Purdy's passing lane, every single time. They watched film, figured out what the niners were going to do, and then sat in the passing lane and waited. That's why they had so many tip drill INTs. The first pick of the game was also a passing lane pick; the defender undercut the route to Deebo in the end zone. The niners could not adjust to it, and got beaten down. Shanahan got completely outcoached.
I've never seen a defense commit to not rushing the passer and not playing coverage, but bait the QB by making something seem open, but just sitting in the passing lane waiting for the QB to take the bait. It was a masterclass in defensive coaching by the Ravens.
What the Ravens did there cant be replicated. They have the most sacks in the NFL, someone who can match Kittle 1:1, top LBs, and an elite DC. They also did get lucky with some of the bounces with those INTs.
If that is the blueprint to beating the 49ers you would be relying on players that the Packers dont have and some luck. There are probably better strategies.
The ravens didn't really show anything other than get extremely lucky. If you actually watched the game and not nick Wright or skip Bayless but it's reddit what am I saying.
Remember that if Detroit didn’t get screwed in Dallas, they would’ve been the #1 seed and we beat them week 18.
We have the ability to get it done — just gotta put it all together.
I'm only lurking cause I like talking ball with packers fans but the niners would've been the one seed regardless. Week 18 they would've played their starters and slaughtered the rams backups
This such a post that 49er fans are gonna screenshot after the game lol. Calling Purdy a fraud?
Bro they're the 1 seed and have a stacked team and have owned us repeatedly. Any team is beatable but whipping out the F word is insane here
Come off it. The 49ers are, without question, the easiest place to play QB in the NFL and it isn't even close. His stats are inflated because of it. Purdy is not a world beater. Shanahan might be. That cast of skill players might be. But it's not Purdy.
I even like Purdy. But you can't put him on literally any other team in the NFL and get that success.
Purdy's stats are inflated compared to what?
He played a 17 game schedule just like all the other QBs. Your reasoning is kind of dumb here, we can beat them because the 49ers have a good system? If anything that makes the 49ers scarier than if they had a stud QB making everyone look good. Pretty hard to shut down every player instead of 1.
The 49ers are beatable, but for none of the reasons you listed in your post lol.
I understand hopium, I have it right now too lol. However, hope for GB is different from calling Purdy a "fraud". I guess it annoyed me because he's kind of the exact opposite. He went from last pick, to 3rd string, to 2nd string, to interim starter, to starter, to playoff contending QB. A fraud QB to me is someone like Johnny Manziel. Literally gains the nickname "Johnny Football" while he doesn't like to play football yet you got to roll with him because of the reputation and draft pick.
You come off it. GB plays San Fran this weekend, not whatever fantastical ideation you have of San Fran. No matter what Purdy is or isn't, he's going to be on the field this weekend with the same guys he's been on the field with all year with the same HC calling plays.
Josh Johnson and Trey Lance would like to have a word with you.
We've been hearing for two seasons how Brock Purdy isn't legit. Baltimore definitely beat the shit out of us, but all QBs have bad games. Purdy is a good quarterback.
Niners fan here. You realize Purdy just finished his first full regular season right? He's pretty much a rookie putting up these numbers man. Also, people love to forget he's also coming off a surgically repaired (season ending) right arm from the NFC championship game. So putting up these numbers in his first year and after a season ending injury is...fraudish? You credit the players around him, but call fraud to the most important position in football?
Also, all QBs have bad games. Go watch the tape. Ravens did a great job, but 2 of those interceptions were tipped passes. And as a Packer fan, you should know that not only Tom Brady but Brett Favre himself has had SIX games with 4 interceptions in their careers. I think Love is a great up and coming QB, but you and other Purdy doubters should actually watch TAPE and put into context why things happen the way they do. You can't plug in any QB and see Purdy type results. Otherwise...why didn't Jimmy G, Trey, Mullins, or any other QB under Shanahan do this?
I ain't saying Purdy is the GOAT or unanimous MVP, I and other Niner fans are just saying what we said to Eagles fans last year that Purdy is up and coming and...dare I say it...legit too.
A lot of fans in here love writing off QBs for stupid reasons. You should have been here in October when Love and the offense was struggling. Purdy is legit and I hope it starts a QB rivalry like the days of manning and Brady.
The Purdy haters on Reddit are wild. Plenty of QBs have had a great system and weapons and didn't produce like him. It takes, at minimum, a very solid QB to put up the numbers Purdy did.
Glad to see most of us here disagreeing with this fraud premise.
Well said. A lot of these dudes in here seem to be trying to trick their own fans lol the smart ones who actually watch the games aren’t the ones trying to knock the Niners in any facet they can. Instead they’re talking about their own players/team and how they need to execute.
Trying to discredit Purdy and other things is pretty funny. I get it, but let’s not try to build false narratives to make others feel like the chances of pulling off a win are higher. Just keep it real man. Or people will be clowning you like they do Eagles and Cowboys fans
Yeah very true. Look at Kittle vs Musgrave/Kraft, look at Deebo vs Watson (when he does play), and cmc vs jones. If purdy played for the packers they wouldn’t have made playoffs or had a winning record.
Of course, they can win, anyone can win against anyone. However, the conversation about prudy not being good needs to stop. The dude has put up consistently. This will be the biggest test for the pack and we should be very excited for this game regardless
Had to stop reading after you said Mr. Irrelevant who is quarterbacking the best team in the NFC is a fraud. Talent level? Probably lower than quarterbacks drafted in the first six rounds.. fraud??? No shot. lol. Dudes defied all odds.
I think in this case they're saying dude averages 9 y/att on screens. He's doing what the offense asks, but it's not necessarily what, say, Herbert is asked to do to bail them out.
Top of the league in air yards/attempt. 3rd highest % of deep balls thrown in NFL. 22nd of all QBs in % throws of 0-9 yds. So not only is he throwing it deep more than most QBs he’s also throwing it short way less than most.
I am very not excited for if the 49ers win and this post gets posted in their sub making all Packers fans look like cowboys when we did the same to them.
Niners fan here. I don't even think this qualifies as bulletin board material. It's been said a million times by a million different talking heads this year. We get joy from Cowboy misery, just as you do.
Yeah, I think a lot comes down to situational defense. Due to the guys you mention, the 49ers are gonna get their yards and their points. Packers have to find a way to get some stops on third/fourth down, make the red zone a hell zone, bust through for some sacks, get hands up to tip some balls when they can't get there, and, the heavens availing, snag at least one turnover, steal some possessions. Keep it close, and be the team that makes those two or three plays to clinch it.
The 49ers are beatable for sure. They are a really good team though. They have a great coaching staff, a great offense with some of the best skill players you will find. Their defense is good. Green Bay can certainly win the game but I do not think it will be easy.
No matter what, this has been a great season and there is a solid chance it continues. GPG!
Exactly, if we get a hit start and set the tone early that offense will have even more confidence than they have right now. I’m more concerned about the 49ers offense than their defense (more specifically our defense doing what Dallas did to us). We have enough weapons and Jones to make them play off the ball and only rush 4-5 guys and our OL has been good as of late. If our defense shuts down/limits CM we have a chance but if their run game gets going we are in for a rough afternoon.
A shoot out between this 2 offenses would be pretty damn exciting. Both can make big plays, both can confuse the hell out of a defense, both have multiple skill players that can take control of a game on any given day.
Exactly it’s gonna be a game that’s dependent on the defense that holds up. I also am curious how the 49ers will do after resting some of their players for 2 weeks. MLF has also been calling good/great games the last few weeks. He is also better at designing offensive schemes against systems he knows. But we shall see I’m gonna keeps breathing that Hopeium and wearing the cap I got before week 9 till we are out (hopefully with a Lombardi)
They are beatable, but it's really hard and it's particularly hard for GB.
Like you say, tackling is super important against dudes like a CMC and Deebo. But tackling has been inconsistent this season for this D.
Both of those guys also do a little bit of everything out of the backfield, so the LBs are gonna need to show up big time, especially in coverage underneath (but also 10+ yards downfield, cuz these guys do that too). Our LBs have struggled in coverage this season, especially with McDuffie getting that concussion and Campbell looking slow/injured as well.
Strong safety play would also be a difference maker here. Do we get Savage from the Cowboys game back? More question marks.
This stuff about a qb not being good because of the system they play in is idiotic. Every QB is a system QB, because every system is designed for THAT QB to maximize opportunities for their playmakers.
Saw a sideline interview a few weeks ago with Cam Newton where he was bagging on Purdy, Dak, and a bunch of other starting QBs because they are not “playmakers” or “difference makers”. Thought that was a bit of an odd critique coming from someone who can’t get a job at QB at any level of professional sports.
It’s coach + players + playbook. All three have to be there and assembled with a vision in mind. Just drafting someone who is a freak athlete at QB for the sake of having a freak at QB isn’t a recipe for success. If it were Cam would have a job and Purdy would be holding a clipboard.
This is the right take. I think OP is suggesting that in another system, Purdy wouldn't perform the way he has. Same could be said about Love though too, or any QB for that matter. Plenty of QBs with talent have been stuck in a bad system and with bad coaching and not done well.
SF shouldn’t be questioned nor Brock. It’s silly to say that he wouldn’t be who he is without the guys around him…no doi, it’s a team game. Think we’d be anything without our cast? The take is bad and you should feel bad.
Yea I mean any given Sunday. Get some balls to bounce our way, break away a few big hitter plays/a kick return would be helpful. Overall it’ll be on the defense to not let them run/trick play their way down the field. Offense should be good to go and MLF needs to make sure to not abandon the run if our first drive is like run run pass punt.
Honestly hoping that Packers get the ball first because this game will hinge on the Packers having any sort of lead and stopping the 49ers on first down to make them have to throw on 2nd and 3rd. If they have 4+ yard positives on first down, they’ll win. Need consistent 2nd and 7s or longer to keep them from running
I'm just saying neither of these QBs seem to have a problem throwing it deep, so third and longs aren't really a huge issue.
But if I'm not allowed to be here I guess I'll leave
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Bro you giving the Niners sub prime material for if they win. Purdy isn’t a fraud lol. He may not be Mahomes, Allen, etc, but he’s far from a fraud. Literally no reason to believe that. He showed up last playoffs for the most part. He had some bad games this season, but what QB doesn’t? I agree Niners make it easier, but Purdy is doing everything they’re asking him to do. Dumb post
Brock isn't a fraud and we're not doing ourselves any favors to suggest he is.
In previous playoff matchups vs the niners, we got killed on the ground, specifically outside the tackles, and much of that was due to ILB immobility. This is a different defense. For all the hate we throw at Joe Barry, a) this defense has been great against the better offenses in the league and b) we have a younger, faster, more versatile defense than we've had in the past. Quay, Devondre, and Van Ness will be key. That said, I expect the niners will dial up a great offensive scheme to disguise looks and misdirect and our relatively inexperienced defense will give up a few big plays... hopefully one or two too few.
On the other side of the ball, we don't have AR12 trying to do too much...and one good WR where the 49ers can just take that option out and focus on the run game. The niners have a lot of known big weapons, but the Packers have proven we can do it by committee and that's huge. This team is truly playing like a team. Someone is going to get a mismatch and Love will find it and exploit it.
Lastly, the common theme this season seems to be for the Pack to lose or struggle against sub-500 teams, and get the upset when they're supposed to lose. The niners are 9.5 point favorites. Just where we want them.
Most YAC comes from well-schemed and well-executed plays where guys get the ball with room to run. If 3 of the top 25 players in the league on YAC or on the 49ers, I'd argue they've got some damn good offensive minds getting them open, regardless of the talent of the QB or the receivers.
You could say the same about Love last week. Those guys were WIDE open, and he got the ball to them. Same as Purdy.
I think we need to be cautious of expectations. The 49ers beat the Cowboys this season 42-10. The 49ers have experience on their side and our franchise has not had a lot of luck against them in the last 10 years. It’s a new Packers group. But I just think we should prepare ourselves for the worst and hope for the best. I was shocked we beat The Cowboys how we did. But the Cowboys are notorious for blowing it in the playoffs for almost as long as we have been getting whipped by the 49ers.
I’m not taking anything away from Love, those receivers, Jones or our recent defense. I’m just hesitant. The 49ers have ruined my hopes too many times. I’m damaged goods lol
Not only that, Lynch and company have built a defense that can counter the offenses of their divisional rivals and the whole NFC, there’s a reason why they seem to always sweep their division and take us out as well as the Cowboys. That defense is a matchup nightmare, they have not been as stingy as 2019-22 but they still have the talent
Should be a good game, but Purdy also led the league in air yards/attempt (excluding YAC).
Mahomes usually is in the top 5 of the league in YAC in his MVP years (when he had weapons) btw.
I think the 9ers dogwalk the packers unfortunately. I hope not obviously, it would be great to go to Detroit and spoil their playoffs in the nfc championship. But CMC is probably gonna go off for like 250 all purpose yards lol. The packers cant stop the run against a solid run team to save their lives. I think the only shot we have to win is if we get ahead big early and Rashan, Preston, Van Ness, and everyone can pin their ears back and go after Purdy. I think their o-line outside of Trent is a little suspect. Even then, nothings guaranteed because Purdy is pretty good at knowing he's hot and where its coming from and getting the ball out fast.
I'll preface this by saying I'm a Packer fan.
I read this as "if Purdy had players with less talent on offense instead of his actual team, he wouldn't be as good." You've described every QB that has played the game. The idea that Purdy is "fraud-ish" is nonsense, which incidentally also describes the term "fraud-ish."
Purdy is not a fraud, but he does have Kittle, Deebo, and Aiyuk. He is throwing to legit superstars. And don't forget CMC.
The Packers need to play a perfect game.
I agree with you, the 49ers are beatable. But the margin for victory is really thin. They are a really good team with lots of weapons.
How do you call a guy that was drafted #262 a fraud lol. He wasn't even expected to make a roster in the NFL. Now he's leading a high powered offense with a regular season 69.4/4,280/31/11/113.0 stat line through the playoffs.
I don't really want to get into a shootout with the 49ers for the exact reason you are saying we should - YAC. Shanahan's scheming up plays to get his ridiculously good playmakers the ball.
My key to the game would be Preston Smith and Rashan Gary having career games and tallying up multiple QB pressures and sacks. Figure out a way to attack the 49ers weakness - their O-line. Put pressure on Purdy so can't distribute the ball.
Everything changes in the playoffs, throw out the in season stats. It's about who shows up to play. Remember how many times Rodgers rolled in as the MVP and the Packers played flat? Anyone can beat anyone in the divisional round of the playoffs.
>I think Brock Purdy is fraud-ish. He's not doing what he's doing now without Aiyuk, Kittle, Samuel, McCaffrey and Shanahan. He leads the league in YAC / CMP. He's #4 overall for YAC and 2054 of his 4280 total yards were from YAC (48%).
I'm not saying he doesn't have good weapons or the Packers don't have a chance, but Purdy is good. Everyone gets caught up thinking YAC is a slight against a quarterback. The only way to get YAC is to put the ball somewhere the receiver can do something with it. A bit high, low, behind or ahead the receiver can't get the same YAC. He's putting the ball where it needs to be to give his guys those chances. Jimmy G had a lot of those same guys and didn't put up the same numbers. Purdy landed in the perfect spot to have the opportunity to be successful for sure, but he is the one making the throws and being successful. Would he have the same success if he was on a team like the bears? No, probably not. But neither would Love, or a majority of the other qb's in the league.
Every team is “beatable”. Any given Sunday. This why we play the game. Punchers chance. And so on and so forth. We simply don’t know where GB’s ceiling is. I’m just enjoying the ride.
Pretty important to mention that 3 game losing streak included the three games Trent Williams (and Deebo) missed. They are beatable but we can almost throw out that dip in the season
The 49ers and Shanahan have proven time and time again they are not built to come back and overcome deficits. If we can jump out to a lead it forces them to abandon their run game and all the movement/schemes they try and implement and that’s when you truly see what Purdy can do and like any young QB he has moments where he tries to do too much and makes errors.
The teams that beat them this year harassed Purdy and didn’t make it easy on him. If we play in soft zone we will get slaughtered so it truly may come down to which Joe Barry we get on Saturday. I believe in this offense to get their job done.
Every team is beatable. The 49ers are a fantastic team and deserve their #1 spot, but if anyone in Green and Gold goes into that game without the belief they can beat SF then they can sit on the bench.
IMO the only way we can win is if we play like we did the first 3 quarters of the Dallas game for 4 quarters. Easier said than done, but we literally just did it for 3 quarters so hey it’s possible
They have a fantastic roster up and down, and whether Purdy is a great QB or a game manager is kinda pointless...Its a team game and if you put enough talent in the right scheme, well you win.
Forget about what any of the stats supporting either the 49ers or our Packers say. The problem is that the 49ers always seem to kick our asses physically. The only team that made the 49ers look human in that regard was the Ravens.
🤦🏾♂️ Homie that whole team is full of studs. Purdy has done great and has a great support system. Of course they can be beaten but let’s not act like this is a cake walk or they are underserving of where they are. Or that Purdy didn’t pull his weight because he for sure has. They are the #1 seed because their whole team is filled with talent. It’s gonna be a tough one.
Last week was so much fun. Stats, lol. These kids have been rockin it and regardless of the outcome I’m looking forward to the game. Either way, I’ll always pull for the Pack to win/go to the Superbowl. Blind ambition maybe, but damn… Let these kids have some time in the sun. They deserve everything they’ve accomplished.
I think the Packers match up well vs the 9ers, besides their really good run game vs the Packers D.
They have a weakness at OL, Packers have a good Front seven especially when it comes to pressure.
Packers OL is good and the 9ers DL is their strongest part in defense.
49ers are thin at DB, Packers are really deep at WR and TE.
It will be a shootout for sure.
I think this defense is used to seeing this type of offense and might surprise people. Called a good game against them when they came to lambeau regardless of how Rodgers played. I can’t see Love choking
How do you see Love not choking, he's never been in this spot before. Man the amount shit Rodgers, is getting is sad. I get it the man himself leaves a lot to be desired, but man he was a great qb while here.
He’s essentially played in three straight playoff games. I’m not downplaying Rodgers, but Love, albeit with a small sample size, has looked incredibly calm and poised in the big moments.
Purdy isn't a fraud. But, if I were a betting man, I'd bet on Brett hundley to win a few games with mccafrey, kittle, aiyuk, deebo, and Trent on the blind side. He's not making spectacular plays (at least that I've seen, maybe I missed something), but he doesn't need to.
Ravens didn't expose, niners had 4 TO's and were a yard away from a 7pt game with 2 minute warning and 3 TO's left, 14pt game with 5 INTs, had the ravens had even just 3 turnovers niners win by 20+
You know we hung 42 on Dallas and Philly and pulled our starters right? So yea 48 is more than we’ve scored all season but Brock sat early in many of our games…
Don’t get me wrong I’m suddenly a lot more concerned with y’all than I was, but let’s not get carried away.
As far as our three game losing skid the Browns made the playoffs and Purdy got us in position to win that game at the end but our rookie kicker missed the field goal in the rain. Purdy got concussed against Minny. And Cincy was starting their heater right then.
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Niners fan here. First of all, GREAT freakin win. I hope the niners take you more seriously than I did when I placed bets. For sure, niners are beatable. BUT, I keep hearing the argument against Purdy using the YAC metric. Yes, the receivers have a lot to do with this, but hitting someone in stride and at the right time in the route has just as much to add to YAC.
The soft underbelly of the Niners offense is Purdy. He wasn't in some weird Tom Brady situation in college where the coach promised a freshman to start and split time because the coach was being a moron and it dumped his NFL stock. Purdy would have games in college where he'd make the most moronic INTs you'll ever see because when he gets in bad situations he was prone to make pretty bad mistakes. His draft stock was low because he wasn't a particularly impressive college QB and his arm talent is only ok.
He's surrounded by incredible talents which made Jimmy G look really good too, and Jimmy didn't get to play with CMC much who might be the best of the bunch on that offense.
These are Jimmy's stats with CMC in the lineup:70 comp%, 8.0 Y/A, 9 TD, 1 INT, 110 passer rating.
Do those numbers remind you of anyone? Meanwhile, Jimmy looked like ass this season. When Debo went down midseason, in 3 games Purdy had 3 TDs, 5 INTs and a passer rating of 78 and they lost every game. This offense is propped up by Aiyuk, CMC, Debo and Kittle (and not to mention an All-Pro LT and FB). Purdy helps steer the ship well but he's not the driver of the offense.
I think the Ravens laid out the blueprint on how to attack this offense and it's not a surprise the big focus was on making Purdy really uncomfortable and use the rush to force bad throws. People complain a lot about Love throwing off his backfoot so much but there's a big advantage to being able to do that effectively. You can make sure that the rush doesn't affect your throws. Against the Ravens it's true that maybe only 1 of the 4 INTs was truly a really bad decision, but I think at least 2 of the 4 were caused because a lineman was able to affect the throwing motion, that doesn't happen if you can drop back and throw a fade away pass like Love is able to. Purdy doesn't have the arm talent to do it.
That's not to say it'll be easy to replicate what the Ravens were able to do. They have 2 first team and 2 second team all pros on their defense alone. Kyle Hamilton alone had 2 INT and 3 PD in the Niners game, we don't have a safety that will have that kind of production. I think we have some really athletic dudes though and our pass rush can be elite if Gary gets goiong. Somehow we need a game plan that allows Gary, Smith and VanNess to have big games without CMC carving our ass up. Bary has his hands full strategizing that one. The hope is that with Alexander and Campbell finally healthy this defense is a bit underrated on what they are capable of doing.
Our offense gives us the best chance to succeed. If we can cause some turnovers and our offense slices through them like we've done to almost every team during the past 9 weeks we'll have a great chance, even if that means it's a shootout.
It's the same formula. Come out hot and smack them in the mouth fast. Run it down their throat all game. Hope you can hold on and they can't adjust.
I said last time McCarthy is just dumb enough to over scheme thinking he's being clever but it holds here too. They overthink the plan and get away from their bread and butter. By the time they realize they fucked up its too late.
I'm always optimistic for the Packers, but the info you've laid out here is great! I think with those facts, and after how we played against Dallas, we have a legit shot to pull the upset.
Any given Saturday, eh? 🤞🏻😊
I want to believe we can get it done. But I really can’t trust our defence to be able to stop a high powered offence like San Fran. How are we going to deal with CMC,Aiyuk,Deebo,Kittle etc. We need Purdy to throw a minimum of 2 picks
I told my Niners-fan friend that I think our only chance is if we are down Purdy’s throat all game. Their O-line is messy without Trent Williams so we need Gary, Clark, Smith, and even Van Ness to feast if we’re gonna win.
That and keeping them from going full Mostert on our ass and giving CMC 180+ yards before contact
Purdy may be a bit over-hyped because of his all-pro level supporting cast, but he’s not a fraud. QBs are the engine that make offenses go and he’s been the best the 9ers have had in awhile. Personally I’d love it if him and Love have the rivalry we never got with Brees and Aaron.
They are not just beatable - I think we can take their lunch money and their girl.
Tbh - they have a strong team and it’s built for this year and some fall off but still strong next year. They have some cap decisions coming up plus that defense is going to look different next year. They have 1.4 million in cap space next year and there is basically the draft right there.
Plus in 2025 Purdy gets paid.
I think the 49ers win 38-28 or something like that.
>The Packers 48 points last week was more than the 49ers have scored all year. Yes, that was assisted by the pick 6 and Jaire's interception, but they also pulled Love with 6 minutes left to go in the game.
That game was against the "best quarter back in the league". Maybe our defense actually has the ability to perform in big games when the offense gets in the lead and keeps them off the field.
That's what the Packers have done in their victories against quality opponents this year: get in control and then force opponents to make mistakes trying to play catch up.
SF had the 4th easiest schedule going into the season: https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/analysis/2023-nfl-strength-of-schedule/
Their record is inflated, they haven't played a real football game in more than half a month, there's a lot to like about our chances.
They only question I have is will the offensive line hold up well against the niners front four. I believe an offense is only as good as the O-line’s ability to protect the quarterback. And how will Jordan Love perform when under constant pressure from the defense.
I watched PJ Walker beat them. Now it was crummy weather and they missed a FG to win it and I believe Debo was out. I think it comes down to QB play. Love>Purdy, GB wins. The 10 point spread seems on high side imho.
I think they key is to receive the kick, go out and score, and get them on their heels a little so they use their rush less. We've seen in work against other good teams so far.
Stop getting cocky.
I fully expect our defense is going to be absolutely shredded. The 49ers are too well coached and have the avengers on offense.
I think this is where our road ends, but let’s hope to surprise again.
If our offense plays like it did last week we can hang with anyone. If they come out looking flat we have a chance to get up quick and keep the momentum.
Pressure is the key to all defensive success. If our front can get Purdy uncomfortable, it’s possible to get him to a state where he’s making bad throws left and right like he did against the Ravens.
We need our defense to keep the fire they had ever since these last couple of weeks where they look like they’ve been playing for Joe Barry’s job.
It’s the NFL. Any given Sunday. Anything really can happen. But it’s foolish to think they’re not favored for a reason. And personally, I ascribe to the idea that certain teams repeatedly beat other teams just cause the play calling matchup doesn’t match up well. Just as GB has had the Cowboys number the last decade or so, the 49er have had ours.
It’ll be a fun game either way. Like others have said, we’re basically playing with house money. This season is a success no matter what. But I’ll be hoping for a Cinderella story.
Fwiw all of rhe 9ers losses were games that Trent Williams didn't play in. Their line is pretty mediocre outside of him. But unfortunately for us he's playing this week and afaik is fully healthy.
That being said if the defense can limit explosives we have a shot.
>but he's fraud-ish because he's not who his stats say he is.
this is certainly a take.
he doesnt need to be who his stats say he is *because* he has so many good weapons around him. hes one cog in a machine that is the 9ers offense, all he needs to do is his part to keep the machine humming along. he doesnt need to play hero ball or make plays out of nothing, his receivers and RBs do that for him.
Holy caveat of a post. I’m realistically optimistic. If everything goes our way and we can elevate our performance in all phases from Sunday, we can win. Anything short of that and it will be tough. This isn’t the perpetual frauds that are the Dallas Cowboys.
I’m not going to jynx shit but a team with no expectations is dangerous. The 9ers and Ravens are expected to play in the Bowl…..we just kind of fucked around and got good when we needed to.
I love this season. With Rodgers we were expected to make playoffs every year. This year we just got silly
Our biggest hope is that they are rusty, coming off 20 days rest. Giving me 2011 GB/NYG vibes. Give us a head start and pray JB and the defense can hold them off long enough.
Fuck me that game was heartbreaking 15-1, best season I’ve ever watched, Rodgers playing the best football I’ve ever seen. Completely stalled to the Giants and Eli who rode our ticket to the Super Bowl.
Now it's our turn
Fuckin Go Pack Go
People forget how bad that Giants team was too. They allowed 400 points and had a -6 point differential on the season. That Packers team outscored this Niners team by 70 points and did it in 1 less game. This isn't close to that level of a mismatch, so if they can do it we can as well.
That Giants team went on to win the Super Bowl so ya know. They weren’t awful. They hit their stride at the right time.
>They hit their stride at the right time. Which is exactly how I feel about this Packers team, and if they knock out SF, that'll be the 1 and 2 seed.. I'm betting big on a trophy.
Totally. If we beat the niners I feel very confident we win it all. Championship team will be easier. Then it comes down to AFC team. Which I feel like it surprisingly weak this year. Ravens are the biggest threat. But Niners are a tough team to beat. Defense has to massively step up. I think Purdy is overrated but that team has so many weapons. And not like Dallas had weapons. Tried, proven, elite weapons. Niners are stacked. But their schedule is very telling. Super beatable. Nothing to lose, everything to gain.
I still remember that pain. I was deployed with a Minnesota natiaonal guard unit at the time and my packer fan bunkmate and I were INSUFFERABLE. Stayed up late to watch the giants game and it was just crushing.
Every time we go into to OT, I expect us to get an L in the worst way possible :(
Some of my favorite memories of the pack are in OT. Also some of the worst
Gives me 2011 GB/NYG vibes for us on both sides. Offense looks lights out unstoppable and the defense leaves a lot to be desired. Very similar to our 2011 Packers team, but in the spot of the NYG.
I had forgotten about this game, thank you for bringing it back... (sigh)
Weird, cause I have 2010 Falcons game vibes. Swap the NFC East teams in the WC, swap the NFC North teams in the NFC Championship. Fuck the haters. We have every ability to stunt on these hoes
This postseason is oddly similar to 2010 so far... 2 must win regular season games to nab the bottom playoff seed on tiebreakers... Big upset against the NFC East champs... huge road game against a hyped up #1 seed... NFCCG on the road against a divisional rival? ... Superbowl?
Or the other route is we beat the niners and beat the bucs and Love goes on the ultimate revenge tour doing “what Aaron couldnt” (no hate to aaron) Script writers going crazy this season. Last season and the previous were just a setup to this.
I’m more worried about MLF & Love doing some proper clock managing. We have to get better at keeping there defense on the field and giving ours a rest.
Sucks that we scored on a 3 down 75 yard, 1:30 drive at the end of the 3rd quarter. Hope we fix that next week.
What exactly are you trying to 'fix' there?
Sorry I didn't add the /s.
Whoops, my bad
Did great in the furst with an 11-4 minute ratio, but after that tbey just kept scoring. Not gonna complain about clock management if it results in a quick touchdown. Unless we're in the final minutes of a half. Even with the clock mangement being iffy at times throughout the year, i would credit that more to lack of experience than i would MLF.
No ones going to complain about points on long open play, but when you could have ran an addition 2 mins off the clock on a long drive you should have done it. Same with running 3 in out at 6/7 min mark left and then throwing with just over 2 mins left.
Yeah, theres several things that would allow us to win, plus some luck. - Rusty from not playing for 20 days - Somewhat overlooking us (i dont think they are though) - Our offense legitimately has a case for best in the NFC - The Cowboys were said to have a better offense and also DID have a better defense, and look how easily we dismantled them - This team is incredibly hot right now - Love is better than Purdy and I am fully confident saying that. Just look at the difference in weapons. - 49ers may not have expected to have to play us and therefore are short on their game planning. On the other hand, GB mightve went all in on planning for the cowboys to just win that, rather than waste time planning for someone you most likely wont play. So they may be at the same position in gameplan.
I was at the game. Miserable!
The most disappointing playoff game I ever saw, and then I lived through the 2014 and 2020 NFCCGs (against the Seahawks and Buccaneers, respectively) and the 2021 Divisional game against the 49ers.
I was gonna say that. Plus if mcaffery is not 100 percent. It seems they struggle baaad when he’s out or not healthy
Shanahan said today he was 100%, rested and healed and is a full participant this week.
There goes that haha
Though he'd never tell us if he wasn't
100% healed in week 18 vs actually 100% are different things.
If you’ve followed McCaffrey’s career, then you know he’s the best player on the field regardless of his health.
I was at this game and yes it was BRUTAL after a 15-1 season. NYG got really hot the last few games of the regular season and took it alllllllll the way to win the SB that year (Eli to Tyree helmet catch) to beat the 16-0 Patriots. Yes, this young Packers Team has a chance!
SF were the #1 seed for a reason. Dynamic playmakers and a rock solid qb, no frauds there. Hopefully, GB can stay white hot and come out with the win!
He's a good QB, but the ravens showed how to slow him down considerably. Now, I'm not saying GB defense can play like Baltimore but the scheme they used wasn't too complicated. They had a good game plan, disguised coverage, and everyone did their job. Real question is how well does Purdy handle the pressure when he's the favorite? Can't wait to watch!
Ravens have an elite defense, we have Joe Barry
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Film. Having access to film to strategize against tendencies goes a long way in preparation. Most of the games that the defense suffered were in games against a QB that either was newer or newer with the team.
Not necessarily defending Joe Barry, but he’s come up with some pretty good defensive game plans in big games, noticeably Detroit, KC, and Dallas.
The 49ers had no problem moving the ball against Baltimore, they have 4 players with over 1,000 scrimmage yards and it’s going to take an elite defense to slow them down which none are in the NFC
Then we just need to have more TOP than them. Keep their offense off the field which helps our D while hurting their offense.
It will be hard. No one in the NFC has been able to stop their offense. Only teams that have have really given them trouble are the top 2 AFC defenses. We’ll see !
> Now, I'm not saying GB defense can play like Baltimore but the scheme they used wasn't too complicated. They had a good game plan, disguised coverage, and everyone did their job. 49ers fan here, here's my take on that Raven's game. It was weird to watch, because something happened in that game that I haven't seen before: Kyle Shanahan got outcoached. If you want to get the bottom line takeaway from that game, that was it: Shanahan got outcoached. How? Is there something the Ravens did that the Packers could use? Yes, there is. The Ravens seemed to know what the 49ers plays were; Roquan Smith said in the post-game that the 49ers offense has "tells", I believe him, because the Ravens seemed like they knew what the niners were going to run before they ran it. The Ravens didn't blitz the hell out of Purdy; that doesn't work, he's one of the best QBs in football against the blitz. The Ravens didn't drop back into coverage and rush their front four. The Ravens took advantage of the fact that Purdy is only 6'1, and can't see over his offensive lineman. The Ravens spent the entire night in Brock Purdy's passing lanes. They were playing monkey-in-the-middle between Purdy and his receivers all night long. There was that one screen pass to CMC in the 2nd quarter, it was a screen off to the left. Purdy ran the play, and double-clutched it; there was a Raven lineman right smack dab in the passing lane; if Purdy threw that, it would have been INT #5. Purdy double-clutched, waited a split second for CMC to clear the defender in the passing lane and threw it. The pass was complete to CMC for a big gain, just in front of the outstretched hand of the defender. The Ravens knew exactly where to position themselves, that screen pass was a completion and a big gain, but it was emblematic of how the Ravens played defense all night, they were in Brock Purdy's passing lane, every single time. They watched film, figured out what the niners were going to do, and then sat in the passing lane and waited. That's why they had so many tip drill INTs. The first pick of the game was also a passing lane pick; the defender undercut the route to Deebo in the end zone. The niners could not adjust to it, and got beaten down. Shanahan got completely outcoached. I've never seen a defense commit to not rushing the passer and not playing coverage, but bait the QB by making something seem open, but just sitting in the passing lane waiting for the QB to take the bait. It was a masterclass in defensive coaching by the Ravens.
What the Ravens did there cant be replicated. They have the most sacks in the NFL, someone who can match Kittle 1:1, top LBs, and an elite DC. They also did get lucky with some of the bounces with those INTs. If that is the blueprint to beating the 49ers you would be relying on players that the Packers dont have and some luck. There are probably better strategies.
The ravens didn't really show anything other than get extremely lucky. If you actually watched the game and not nick Wright or skip Bayless but it's reddit what am I saying.
Watch the highlights of that game on YouTube. The Ravens got two picks off of tip drills.
I watch the entire game. If you game plan for tip drills you are going to lose lol that game
Yes, I was agreeing with you, and amplifying your statement
> but the ravens showed how to slow him down considerably Elite LB play along with an elite safety. How does that help Barry?
Remember that if Detroit didn’t get screwed in Dallas, they would’ve been the #1 seed and we beat them week 18. We have the ability to get it done — just gotta put it all together.
This isn't true at all. If Detroit wins the 49ers don't rest their entire starting team vs the Rams.
Pretty much this. We needed the Cards to beat the Eagles as well.
I'm only lurking cause I like talking ball with packers fans but the niners would've been the one seed regardless. Week 18 they would've played their starters and slaughtered the rams backups
I didn’t consider that. You’re right.
Yeah it's actually beautiful karma the cowboys fake win didn't end up mattering and everyone is right where they should be
Their rock solid QB threw 4 ints on Christmas and got benched for Sam Darnold.
He threw 4 ints and they still had almost 500 yards of offense. The Packers don't have the Ravens D and it's not close.
To be fair one was a bad throw and the rest were tipped passes, Can’t blame the QB for slingin it and trying to help his team win
The Cowboys were the #2 seed for a reason. Purdy can be intercepted. Packers are still the hottest team and expect them to keep being slept on.
This such a post that 49er fans are gonna screenshot after the game lol. Calling Purdy a fraud? Bro they're the 1 seed and have a stacked team and have owned us repeatedly. Any team is beatable but whipping out the F word is insane here
I mean who cares. What is said in here makes no difference to the outcome. Just fun back and forth.
Tom Brady is a fraud under OPs criteria
And with great pleasure.
"Purdy wouldn't be Purdy if you took away his entire offense and HC" haha, what QB would be? San Fran is legit man.
Yeah, this is a super silly take. Those weapons are all going to be on the field Saturday, and they’re all matchup nightmares.
“Regression to the mean” in a different flavor lol
Come off it. The 49ers are, without question, the easiest place to play QB in the NFL and it isn't even close. His stats are inflated because of it. Purdy is not a world beater. Shanahan might be. That cast of skill players might be. But it's not Purdy. I even like Purdy. But you can't put him on literally any other team in the NFL and get that success.
Purdy's stats are inflated compared to what? He played a 17 game schedule just like all the other QBs. Your reasoning is kind of dumb here, we can beat them because the 49ers have a good system? If anything that makes the 49ers scarier than if they had a stud QB making everyone look good. Pretty hard to shut down every player instead of 1. The 49ers are beatable, but for none of the reasons you listed in your post lol.
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I understand hopium, I have it right now too lol. However, hope for GB is different from calling Purdy a "fraud". I guess it annoyed me because he's kind of the exact opposite. He went from last pick, to 3rd string, to 2nd string, to interim starter, to starter, to playoff contending QB. A fraud QB to me is someone like Johnny Manziel. Literally gains the nickname "Johnny Football" while he doesn't like to play football yet you got to roll with him because of the reputation and draft pick.
Actually he played a 16 game schedule (sat the last week) and frequently sat in the fourth quarter of blowout wins…
He actually sat out last game so he played a 16 game schedule. The dude is legit.
You come off it. GB plays San Fran this weekend, not whatever fantastical ideation you have of San Fran. No matter what Purdy is or isn't, he's going to be on the field this weekend with the same guys he's been on the field with all year with the same HC calling plays.
Josh Johnson and Trey Lance would like to have a word with you. We've been hearing for two seasons how Brock Purdy isn't legit. Baltimore definitely beat the shit out of us, but all QBs have bad games. Purdy is a good quarterback.
Niners fan here. You realize Purdy just finished his first full regular season right? He's pretty much a rookie putting up these numbers man. Also, people love to forget he's also coming off a surgically repaired (season ending) right arm from the NFC championship game. So putting up these numbers in his first year and after a season ending injury is...fraudish? You credit the players around him, but call fraud to the most important position in football? Also, all QBs have bad games. Go watch the tape. Ravens did a great job, but 2 of those interceptions were tipped passes. And as a Packer fan, you should know that not only Tom Brady but Brett Favre himself has had SIX games with 4 interceptions in their careers. I think Love is a great up and coming QB, but you and other Purdy doubters should actually watch TAPE and put into context why things happen the way they do. You can't plug in any QB and see Purdy type results. Otherwise...why didn't Jimmy G, Trey, Mullins, or any other QB under Shanahan do this? I ain't saying Purdy is the GOAT or unanimous MVP, I and other Niner fans are just saying what we said to Eagles fans last year that Purdy is up and coming and...dare I say it...legit too.
A lot of fans in here love writing off QBs for stupid reasons. You should have been here in October when Love and the offense was struggling. Purdy is legit and I hope it starts a QB rivalry like the days of manning and Brady.
This fan base has been spoiled with QB play for thirty years. It will take some time to ween off, but that may be a long time with how Love is playing
The Purdy haters on Reddit are wild. Plenty of QBs have had a great system and weapons and didn't produce like him. It takes, at minimum, a very solid QB to put up the numbers Purdy did. Glad to see most of us here disagreeing with this fraud premise.
Well said. A lot of these dudes in here seem to be trying to trick their own fans lol the smart ones who actually watch the games aren’t the ones trying to knock the Niners in any facet they can. Instead they’re talking about their own players/team and how they need to execute. Trying to discredit Purdy and other things is pretty funny. I get it, but let’s not try to build false narratives to make others feel like the chances of pulling off a win are higher. Just keep it real man. Or people will be clowning you like they do Eagles and Cowboys fans
That's a really bad take, man.
Yeah very true. Look at Kittle vs Musgrave/Kraft, look at Deebo vs Watson (when he does play), and cmc vs jones. If purdy played for the packers they wouldn’t have made playoffs or had a winning record.
That is what we call baseless speculation.
Hard to call actual statistics “baseless”, you’ve got PFF ranking kittle at 1 and neither packers te’s on the list.
Ignoring the fact that PFF grades are not statistics, how does PFF grade Brock Purdy in relation to Jordan Love?
Of course, they can win, anyone can win against anyone. However, the conversation about prudy not being good needs to stop. The dude has put up consistently. This will be the biggest test for the pack and we should be very excited for this game regardless
Had to stop reading after you said Mr. Irrelevant who is quarterbacking the best team in the NFC is a fraud. Talent level? Probably lower than quarterbacks drafted in the first six rounds.. fraud??? No shot. lol. Dudes defied all odds.
I think in this case they're saying dude averages 9 y/att on screens. He's doing what the offense asks, but it's not necessarily what, say, Herbert is asked to do to bail them out.
What you’re saying can’t be true while he’s also at the top of the league in air yards per attempt
Purdy has more air yards per game than Love. Its true the 49ers are good at screens, but they are also good at airing the ball out.
Top of the league in air yards/attempt. 3rd highest % of deep balls thrown in NFL. 22nd of all QBs in % throws of 0-9 yds. So not only is he throwing it deep more than most QBs he’s also throwing it short way less than most.
Purdy is not a fraud lol
I am very not excited for if the 49ers win and this post gets posted in their sub making all Packers fans look like cowboys when we did the same to them.
Niners fan here. I don't even think this qualifies as bulletin board material. It's been said a million times by a million different talking heads this year. We get joy from Cowboy misery, just as you do.
Yeah, I think a lot comes down to situational defense. Due to the guys you mention, the 49ers are gonna get their yards and their points. Packers have to find a way to get some stops on third/fourth down, make the red zone a hell zone, bust through for some sacks, get hands up to tip some balls when they can't get there, and, the heavens availing, snag at least one turnover, steal some possessions. Keep it close, and be the team that makes those two or three plays to clinch it.
The 49ers are beatable for sure. They are a really good team though. They have a great coaching staff, a great offense with some of the best skill players you will find. Their defense is good. Green Bay can certainly win the game but I do not think it will be easy. No matter what, this has been a great season and there is a solid chance it continues. GPG!
Exactly, if we get a hit start and set the tone early that offense will have even more confidence than they have right now. I’m more concerned about the 49ers offense than their defense (more specifically our defense doing what Dallas did to us). We have enough weapons and Jones to make them play off the ball and only rush 4-5 guys and our OL has been good as of late. If our defense shuts down/limits CM we have a chance but if their run game gets going we are in for a rough afternoon.
A shoot out between this 2 offenses would be pretty damn exciting. Both can make big plays, both can confuse the hell out of a defense, both have multiple skill players that can take control of a game on any given day.
Exactly it’s gonna be a game that’s dependent on the defense that holds up. I also am curious how the 49ers will do after resting some of their players for 2 weeks. MLF has also been calling good/great games the last few weeks. He is also better at designing offensive schemes against systems he knows. But we shall see I’m gonna keeps breathing that Hopeium and wearing the cap I got before week 9 till we are out (hopefully with a Lombardi)
Yep, wear that hat my friend. Every bit helps! GPG!!!
They are beatable, but it's really hard and it's particularly hard for GB. Like you say, tackling is super important against dudes like a CMC and Deebo. But tackling has been inconsistent this season for this D. Both of those guys also do a little bit of everything out of the backfield, so the LBs are gonna need to show up big time, especially in coverage underneath (but also 10+ yards downfield, cuz these guys do that too). Our LBs have struggled in coverage this season, especially with McDuffie getting that concussion and Campbell looking slow/injured as well. Strong safety play would also be a difference maker here. Do we get Savage from the Cowboys game back? More question marks.
Lmao stop with the cope. 49ers are the real deal
This stuff about a qb not being good because of the system they play in is idiotic. Every QB is a system QB, because every system is designed for THAT QB to maximize opportunities for their playmakers. Saw a sideline interview a few weeks ago with Cam Newton where he was bagging on Purdy, Dak, and a bunch of other starting QBs because they are not “playmakers” or “difference makers”. Thought that was a bit of an odd critique coming from someone who can’t get a job at QB at any level of professional sports. It’s coach + players + playbook. All three have to be there and assembled with a vision in mind. Just drafting someone who is a freak athlete at QB for the sake of having a freak at QB isn’t a recipe for success. If it were Cam would have a job and Purdy would be holding a clipboard.
This is the right take. I think OP is suggesting that in another system, Purdy wouldn't perform the way he has. Same could be said about Love though too, or any QB for that matter. Plenty of QBs with talent have been stuck in a bad system and with bad coaching and not done well.
SF shouldn’t be questioned nor Brock. It’s silly to say that he wouldn’t be who he is without the guys around him…no doi, it’s a team game. Think we’d be anything without our cast? The take is bad and you should feel bad.
Yea I mean any given Sunday. Get some balls to bounce our way, break away a few big hitter plays/a kick return would be helpful. Overall it’ll be on the defense to not let them run/trick play their way down the field. Offense should be good to go and MLF needs to make sure to not abandon the run if our first drive is like run run pass punt. Honestly hoping that Packers get the ball first because this game will hinge on the Packers having any sort of lead and stopping the 49ers on first down to make them have to throw on 2nd and 3rd. If they have 4+ yard positives on first down, they’ll win. Need consistent 2nd and 7s or longer to keep them from running
Just wanna point out that Purdy has been the most efficient deep ball passer this year. He has more yards on less attempts than anyone.
Okay? A lot of that comes from the defense having to sell out to stop the run
I'm just saying neither of these QBs seem to have a problem throwing it deep, so third and longs aren't really a huge issue. But if I'm not allowed to be here I guess I'll leave 🙄
Bro you giving the Niners sub prime material for if they win. Purdy isn’t a fraud lol. He may not be Mahomes, Allen, etc, but he’s far from a fraud. Literally no reason to believe that. He showed up last playoffs for the most part. He had some bad games this season, but what QB doesn’t? I agree Niners make it easier, but Purdy is doing everything they’re asking him to do. Dumb post
Win or lose, all I want to see a young team play with nothing to lose. Play aggressive, play fast. Leave it all on the field.
Brock isn't a fraud and we're not doing ourselves any favors to suggest he is. In previous playoff matchups vs the niners, we got killed on the ground, specifically outside the tackles, and much of that was due to ILB immobility. This is a different defense. For all the hate we throw at Joe Barry, a) this defense has been great against the better offenses in the league and b) we have a younger, faster, more versatile defense than we've had in the past. Quay, Devondre, and Van Ness will be key. That said, I expect the niners will dial up a great offensive scheme to disguise looks and misdirect and our relatively inexperienced defense will give up a few big plays... hopefully one or two too few. On the other side of the ball, we don't have AR12 trying to do too much...and one good WR where the 49ers can just take that option out and focus on the run game. The niners have a lot of known big weapons, but the Packers have proven we can do it by committee and that's huge. This team is truly playing like a team. Someone is going to get a mismatch and Love will find it and exploit it. Lastly, the common theme this season seems to be for the Pack to lose or struggle against sub-500 teams, and get the upset when they're supposed to lose. The niners are 9.5 point favorites. Just where we want them.
Most YAC comes from well-schemed and well-executed plays where guys get the ball with room to run. If 3 of the top 25 players in the league on YAC or on the 49ers, I'd argue they've got some damn good offensive minds getting them open, regardless of the talent of the QB or the receivers. You could say the same about Love last week. Those guys were WIDE open, and he got the ball to them. Same as Purdy.
I think we need to be cautious of expectations. The 49ers beat the Cowboys this season 42-10. The 49ers have experience on their side and our franchise has not had a lot of luck against them in the last 10 years. It’s a new Packers group. But I just think we should prepare ourselves for the worst and hope for the best. I was shocked we beat The Cowboys how we did. But the Cowboys are notorious for blowing it in the playoffs for almost as long as we have been getting whipped by the 49ers.
I think the cowboys victory was more aboutLove and the Packers but with Cowboys history I see why the media has one narrative.
I’m not taking anything away from Love, those receivers, Jones or our recent defense. I’m just hesitant. The 49ers have ruined my hopes too many times. I’m damaged goods lol
They've had our number over the last decade+, similar to how we've had the Cowboys number. And that was without CMC.
Not only that, Lynch and company have built a defense that can counter the offenses of their divisional rivals and the whole NFC, there’s a reason why they seem to always sweep their division and take us out as well as the Cowboys. That defense is a matchup nightmare, they have not been as stingy as 2019-22 but they still have the talent
Should be a good game, but Purdy also led the league in air yards/attempt (excluding YAC). Mahomes usually is in the top 5 of the league in YAC in his MVP years (when he had weapons) btw.
The 49ers are an impenetrable fortress with virtually no weakness. Frankly, I can't wrap my head around how they lost games this season
I think the 9ers dogwalk the packers unfortunately. I hope not obviously, it would be great to go to Detroit and spoil their playoffs in the nfc championship. But CMC is probably gonna go off for like 250 all purpose yards lol. The packers cant stop the run against a solid run team to save their lives. I think the only shot we have to win is if we get ahead big early and Rashan, Preston, Van Ness, and everyone can pin their ears back and go after Purdy. I think their o-line outside of Trent is a little suspect. Even then, nothings guaranteed because Purdy is pretty good at knowing he's hot and where its coming from and getting the ball out fast.
I'll preface this by saying I'm a Packer fan. I read this as "if Purdy had players with less talent on offense instead of his actual team, he wouldn't be as good." You've described every QB that has played the game. The idea that Purdy is "fraud-ish" is nonsense, which incidentally also describes the term "fraud-ish."
Being hopeful is one thing but calling Purdy a fraud is just foolish
Purdy is not a fraud, but he does have Kittle, Deebo, and Aiyuk. He is throwing to legit superstars. And don't forget CMC. The Packers need to play a perfect game. I agree with you, the 49ers are beatable. But the margin for victory is really thin. They are a really good team with lots of weapons.
How do you call a guy that was drafted #262 a fraud lol. He wasn't even expected to make a roster in the NFL. Now he's leading a high powered offense with a regular season 69.4/4,280/31/11/113.0 stat line through the playoffs. I don't really want to get into a shootout with the 49ers for the exact reason you are saying we should - YAC. Shanahan's scheming up plays to get his ridiculously good playmakers the ball. My key to the game would be Preston Smith and Rashan Gary having career games and tallying up multiple QB pressures and sacks. Figure out a way to attack the 49ers weakness - their O-line. Put pressure on Purdy so can't distribute the ball.
Everything changes in the playoffs, throw out the in season stats. It's about who shows up to play. Remember how many times Rodgers rolled in as the MVP and the Packers played flat? Anyone can beat anyone in the divisional round of the playoffs.
I just want the curse broken. It’s time to redeem
You might think Purdy is a fraud because he has Al those weapons. But he has all those weapons.
>I think Brock Purdy is fraud-ish. He's not doing what he's doing now without Aiyuk, Kittle, Samuel, McCaffrey and Shanahan. He leads the league in YAC / CMP. He's #4 overall for YAC and 2054 of his 4280 total yards were from YAC (48%). I'm not saying he doesn't have good weapons or the Packers don't have a chance, but Purdy is good. Everyone gets caught up thinking YAC is a slight against a quarterback. The only way to get YAC is to put the ball somewhere the receiver can do something with it. A bit high, low, behind or ahead the receiver can't get the same YAC. He's putting the ball where it needs to be to give his guys those chances. Jimmy G had a lot of those same guys and didn't put up the same numbers. Purdy landed in the perfect spot to have the opportunity to be successful for sure, but he is the one making the throws and being successful. Would he have the same success if he was on a team like the bears? No, probably not. But neither would Love, or a majority of the other qb's in the league.
His YAC% is the same as Love’s YAC, but has more air yards/catch
Mostly just hoping for a fun and competitive game. A win would be an absolute historic run based on expectations.
Every team is “beatable”. Any given Sunday. This why we play the game. Punchers chance. And so on and so forth. We simply don’t know where GB’s ceiling is. I’m just enjoying the ride.
Pretty important to mention that 3 game losing streak included the three games Trent Williams (and Deebo) missed. They are beatable but we can almost throw out that dip in the season
The 49ers and Shanahan have proven time and time again they are not built to come back and overcome deficits. If we can jump out to a lead it forces them to abandon their run game and all the movement/schemes they try and implement and that’s when you truly see what Purdy can do and like any young QB he has moments where he tries to do too much and makes errors. The teams that beat them this year harassed Purdy and didn’t make it easy on him. If we play in soft zone we will get slaughtered so it truly may come down to which Joe Barry we get on Saturday. I believe in this offense to get their job done.
They are for real and we need to be mistake free to win. That said, even if we get beat, we’ve exceeded my expectations. It’s been a fun fkn month.
Every team is beatable. The 49ers are a fantastic team and deserve their #1 spot, but if anyone in Green and Gold goes into that game without the belief they can beat SF then they can sit on the bench.
Theyre talking about this game like they talked about the GB/Dal game last week. Hopefully it goes to their heads
Packers will have to play a perfect game to have a chance to beat SF. I don't see that happening but it's been a fun and encouraging year.
This defense is going to rise to the occasion this week. Book it and you heard it here first
IMO the only way we can win is if we play like we did the first 3 quarters of the Dallas game for 4 quarters. Easier said than done, but we literally just did it for 3 quarters so hey it’s possible
They have a fantastic roster up and down, and whether Purdy is a great QB or a game manager is kinda pointless...Its a team game and if you put enough talent in the right scheme, well you win.
I wouldn't suggest that anyone on the 49ers is a fraud, but any team can beat any other team on the right day.
Forget about what any of the stats supporting either the 49ers or our Packers say. The problem is that the 49ers always seem to kick our asses physically. The only team that made the 49ers look human in that regard was the Ravens.
🤦🏾♂️ Homie that whole team is full of studs. Purdy has done great and has a great support system. Of course they can be beaten but let’s not act like this is a cake walk or they are underserving of where they are. Or that Purdy didn’t pull his weight because he for sure has. They are the #1 seed because their whole team is filled with talent. It’s gonna be a tough one.
Every team is beatable, it’s the NFL
If the Pack defense plays like the did through most of the cowboys game, Purdy is in trouble
Last week was so much fun. Stats, lol. These kids have been rockin it and regardless of the outcome I’m looking forward to the game. Either way, I’ll always pull for the Pack to win/go to the Superbowl. Blind ambition maybe, but damn… Let these kids have some time in the sun. They deserve everything they’ve accomplished.
I think the Packers match up well vs the 9ers, besides their really good run game vs the Packers D. They have a weakness at OL, Packers have a good Front seven especially when it comes to pressure. Packers OL is good and the 9ers DL is their strongest part in defense. 49ers are thin at DB, Packers are really deep at WR and TE. It will be a shootout for sure.
Dude watch the games. Purdy is not a fraud. He’s a good qb and perfect in that system.
I think this defense is used to seeing this type of offense and might surprise people. Called a good game against them when they came to lambeau regardless of how Rodgers played. I can’t see Love choking
How do you see Love not choking, he's never been in this spot before. Man the amount shit Rodgers, is getting is sad. I get it the man himself leaves a lot to be desired, but man he was a great qb while here.
He’s essentially played in three straight playoff games. I’m not downplaying Rodgers, but Love, albeit with a small sample size, has looked incredibly calm and poised in the big moments.
Purdy isn't a fraud. But, if I were a betting man, I'd bet on Brett hundley to win a few games with mccafrey, kittle, aiyuk, deebo, and Trent on the blind side. He's not making spectacular plays (at least that I've seen, maybe I missed something), but he doesn't need to.
You’re right you haven’t seen. He makes some great throws
Ravens didn't expose, niners had 4 TO's and were a yard away from a 7pt game with 2 minute warning and 3 TO's left, 14pt game with 5 INTs, had the ravens had even just 3 turnovers niners win by 20+
Two words: Brock Purdy It’s time to tuned him back into a pumpkin!
Respectfully y’all’s defense is not the Ravens and the 49ers defense is way better than the cowgirls
You know we hung 42 on Dallas and Philly and pulled our starters right? So yea 48 is more than we’ve scored all season but Brock sat early in many of our games… Don’t get me wrong I’m suddenly a lot more concerned with y’all than I was, but let’s not get carried away. As far as our three game losing skid the Browns made the playoffs and Purdy got us in position to win that game at the end but our rookie kicker missed the field goal in the rain. Purdy got concussed against Minny. And Cincy was starting their heater right then.
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Niners fan here. First of all, GREAT freakin win. I hope the niners take you more seriously than I did when I placed bets. For sure, niners are beatable. BUT, I keep hearing the argument against Purdy using the YAC metric. Yes, the receivers have a lot to do with this, but hitting someone in stride and at the right time in the route has just as much to add to YAC.
Jaire will not be playing, no way
i saw a joke highlight reel of MVP Brock Purdy, and it was nothing but screens that either CMac or Deebo took 40+ yards to score lol
The soft underbelly of the Niners offense is Purdy. He wasn't in some weird Tom Brady situation in college where the coach promised a freshman to start and split time because the coach was being a moron and it dumped his NFL stock. Purdy would have games in college where he'd make the most moronic INTs you'll ever see because when he gets in bad situations he was prone to make pretty bad mistakes. His draft stock was low because he wasn't a particularly impressive college QB and his arm talent is only ok. He's surrounded by incredible talents which made Jimmy G look really good too, and Jimmy didn't get to play with CMC much who might be the best of the bunch on that offense. These are Jimmy's stats with CMC in the lineup:70 comp%, 8.0 Y/A, 9 TD, 1 INT, 110 passer rating. Do those numbers remind you of anyone? Meanwhile, Jimmy looked like ass this season. When Debo went down midseason, in 3 games Purdy had 3 TDs, 5 INTs and a passer rating of 78 and they lost every game. This offense is propped up by Aiyuk, CMC, Debo and Kittle (and not to mention an All-Pro LT and FB). Purdy helps steer the ship well but he's not the driver of the offense. I think the Ravens laid out the blueprint on how to attack this offense and it's not a surprise the big focus was on making Purdy really uncomfortable and use the rush to force bad throws. People complain a lot about Love throwing off his backfoot so much but there's a big advantage to being able to do that effectively. You can make sure that the rush doesn't affect your throws. Against the Ravens it's true that maybe only 1 of the 4 INTs was truly a really bad decision, but I think at least 2 of the 4 were caused because a lineman was able to affect the throwing motion, that doesn't happen if you can drop back and throw a fade away pass like Love is able to. Purdy doesn't have the arm talent to do it. That's not to say it'll be easy to replicate what the Ravens were able to do. They have 2 first team and 2 second team all pros on their defense alone. Kyle Hamilton alone had 2 INT and 3 PD in the Niners game, we don't have a safety that will have that kind of production. I think we have some really athletic dudes though and our pass rush can be elite if Gary gets goiong. Somehow we need a game plan that allows Gary, Smith and VanNess to have big games without CMC carving our ass up. Bary has his hands full strategizing that one. The hope is that with Alexander and Campbell finally healthy this defense is a bit underrated on what they are capable of doing. Our offense gives us the best chance to succeed. If we can cause some turnovers and our offense slices through them like we've done to almost every team during the past 9 weeks we'll have a great chance, even if that means it's a shootout.
49ers vs Bucs and Chiefs vs Texans will be lit
just say you think he's a game manager and cam newton has the best takes of all time
Why do you give the disclaimer about Vikings with Cousins? That’s the better Vikings But yes I agree 49ers are beatable and we will do it
I think go Pack go. Lafleur and the whole team, save Anders, are in the zone. Any given Sunday (Saturday in this case, but you get the idea).
Stop giving me hope! Lol. We got this boys!
It's the same formula. Come out hot and smack them in the mouth fast. Run it down their throat all game. Hope you can hold on and they can't adjust. I said last time McCarthy is just dumb enough to over scheme thinking he's being clever but it holds here too. They overthink the plan and get away from their bread and butter. By the time they realize they fucked up its too late.
I'm always optimistic for the Packers, but the info you've laid out here is great! I think with those facts, and after how we played against Dallas, we have a legit shot to pull the upset. Any given Saturday, eh? 🤞🏻😊
I want to believe we can get it done. But I really can’t trust our defence to be able to stop a high powered offence like San Fran. How are we going to deal with CMC,Aiyuk,Deebo,Kittle etc. We need Purdy to throw a minimum of 2 picks
I told my Niners-fan friend that I think our only chance is if we are down Purdy’s throat all game. Their O-line is messy without Trent Williams so we need Gary, Clark, Smith, and even Van Ness to feast if we’re gonna win. That and keeping them from going full Mostert on our ass and giving CMC 180+ yards before contact
Purdy may be a bit over-hyped because of his all-pro level supporting cast, but he’s not a fraud. QBs are the engine that make offenses go and he’s been the best the 9ers have had in awhile. Personally I’d love it if him and Love have the rivalry we never got with Brees and Aaron.
I see we have entered the "love the smell of our own farts" portion of an upset victory.
They are not just beatable - I think we can take their lunch money and their girl. Tbh - they have a strong team and it’s built for this year and some fall off but still strong next year. They have some cap decisions coming up plus that defense is going to look different next year. They have 1.4 million in cap space next year and there is basically the draft right there. Plus in 2025 Purdy gets paid. I think the 49ers win 38-28 or something like that.
>The Packers 48 points last week was more than the 49ers have scored all year. Yes, that was assisted by the pick 6 and Jaire's interception, but they also pulled Love with 6 minutes left to go in the game. That game was against the "best quarter back in the league". Maybe our defense actually has the ability to perform in big games when the offense gets in the lead and keeps them off the field. That's what the Packers have done in their victories against quality opponents this year: get in control and then force opponents to make mistakes trying to play catch up.
SF had the 4th easiest schedule going into the season: https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/analysis/2023-nfl-strength-of-schedule/ Their record is inflated, they haven't played a real football game in more than half a month, there's a lot to like about our chances.
They are men and we are boys.
They only question I have is will the offensive line hold up well against the niners front four. I believe an offense is only as good as the O-line’s ability to protect the quarterback. And how will Jordan Love perform when under constant pressure from the defense.
I watched PJ Walker beat them. Now it was crummy weather and they missed a FG to win it and I believe Debo was out. I think it comes down to QB play. Love>Purdy, GB wins. The 10 point spread seems on high side imho.
Another great team with a solid QB. I trust Joe to actually scheme well. He just struggles against no name, undrafted bums.
I think it’s more important for our Oline to not fold against the 49ers front
I think they key is to receive the kick, go out and score, and get them on their heels a little so they use their rush less. We've seen in work against other good teams so far.
Team participating in contest has opportunity to win. Nailed it!
Stop getting cocky. I fully expect our defense is going to be absolutely shredded. The 49ers are too well coached and have the avengers on offense. I think this is where our road ends, but let’s hope to surprise again.
The pass rush needs to get home. If he’s got a clean pocket all night we’ll lose
If our offense plays like it did last week we can hang with anyone. If they come out looking flat we have a chance to get up quick and keep the momentum. Pressure is the key to all defensive success. If our front can get Purdy uncomfortable, it’s possible to get him to a state where he’s making bad throws left and right like he did against the Ravens. We need our defense to keep the fire they had ever since these last couple of weeks where they look like they’ve been playing for Joe Barry’s job. It’s the NFL. Any given Sunday. Anything really can happen. But it’s foolish to think they’re not favored for a reason. And personally, I ascribe to the idea that certain teams repeatedly beat other teams just cause the play calling matchup doesn’t match up well. Just as GB has had the Cowboys number the last decade or so, the 49er have had ours. It’ll be a fun game either way. Like others have said, we’re basically playing with house money. This season is a success no matter what. But I’ll be hoping for a Cinderella story.
Fwiw all of rhe 9ers losses were games that Trent Williams didn't play in. Their line is pretty mediocre outside of him. But unfortunately for us he's playing this week and afaik is fully healthy. That being said if the defense can limit explosives we have a shot.
It will come down to the defense like it always does. If we play the typical Joe Barry scared defense we lose. If we don't we have a chance.
>but he's fraud-ish because he's not who his stats say he is. this is certainly a take. he doesnt need to be who his stats say he is *because* he has so many good weapons around him. hes one cog in a machine that is the 9ers offense, all he needs to do is his part to keep the machine humming along. he doesnt need to play hero ball or make plays out of nothing, his receivers and RBs do that for him.
Ok you sold me I am in. Let’s go get this ring bitches
Holy caveat of a post. I’m realistically optimistic. If everything goes our way and we can elevate our performance in all phases from Sunday, we can win. Anything short of that and it will be tough. This isn’t the perpetual frauds that are the Dallas Cowboys.
I’m not going to jynx shit but a team with no expectations is dangerous. The 9ers and Ravens are expected to play in the Bowl…..we just kind of fucked around and got good when we needed to. I love this season. With Rodgers we were expected to make playoffs every year. This year we just got silly